I really like Yamamoto Kotetsuko's stories, but am I the only one who thinks all of her characters look 12 years old?
Not sure why, but all the men in her stories look to me like a bunch of White adolescents, which makes the love scenes seem a little bit...off.
If you average the ages maybe. The semes always look like 16 to me and the Ukes like 10.
I never know how to rate tragedies.
While I hate the fact that they make me sad, the fact that they upset me means the story was really effective.
Basically, it's hard to objectively judge the quality of the manga without your emotional response to it getting in the way.
I love how he's so deliriously happy he freaking out over it.
i totally get it i google all my feelings
1st - Yuri does not seem like a seme at all; his personality practically screams uke.
2nd - NO MEANS NO DAMN IT!
TRUE TRUE THAT
I don't feel comfortable when they make Yuri look so manly in Doujins and Victor so feminine. Daz so friggin out of character. But i still read them because I love YOI. Lol
With all the characters and possible matches it's like they decided a triangle wasn't complicated enough, so they decided to make it a LOVE HEXAGON.
I honestly have no idea who is going to end up with who in this one, but I cannot wait to find out...
Only in yaoi would a family support a member who wanted to date his younger cousin, with whom he lives, not to mention seeming cute as buttons.
In real life the whole situation would be creepy and weird, not to mention illegal in many countries.
When a Caucasian person pulls up on their eyes it's kind of an offensive way to mock Asian people.
What I want to know, however, is what it means when an Asian person does the same thing?
Does it even have a meaning?
A picture in chap 8 made me think of it, so please reference the picture if I'm not being clear.
http://iweb6.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/unriped_expression/8/2fc2fc83d7db8ff8884b31b742602e0d.jpeg
Well, I guess it depends. I'm from Southeast Asia and possesses very prominent east asian features as I am part Chinese sometimes people do mock me with pulling up their eyes since not all southeast asian people have slant eyes. Hope I made some sense lol
Short answer: Asians dont find it as offensive, but rather see it as a stale and unfunny joke.
Why its more offensive if a caucasian does it is written below.
The implications are different because what happened historically.
Please note that I am canadian, so these facts may slightly differ in america and in europe. I know that racism existed in both places, but i am not educated enough to explain it.
In canada, racism was (and still is to a lesser extent) very prevalent and asians were alienated. Japanese people were segregated, deported, and were called called slurs due to ww2, while chinese people were forced to live in poorer areas (thus became chinatown), and due to the systematically racist government, it was difficult for them to have a decent living. Koreans came much later, but caucasians cant tell them apart so they are lumped into the same category. As racism permeates throughout society, there are people that clearly benefit on the other side of the spectrum. Non asian citizens are easier to sway when they fear and ostracize the "yellow people", and business is easier when anti-asian laws/permits are enforced.
"But what does this have to do with slanted eyes?" Media brainwashes people and make it easier to maintain racism. If asians are constantly shown as greedy, yellown skinned, with slanted eyed miscreants with terrible accents, people begin to believe that thats what asian are. (Obviously thats now true, but racists then and even today believe otherwise)
On the other hand, korea is a largely homogenous asian country. Racism against asians is impossible; theyre the majority demographic. (Note: racism and xenophobia is different. Im aware of the tense relations betwen asian countries.)
Regardless, the slanted eye jokes are generally ill-mannered and unfunny. The difference is between a korean and a caucasian doing it is that korea doesnt have a racist backstory to further tarnish it. Caucasians do.
In a similar way, its kinda like how black people can say the n word but non black people cant. We havent faced the struggles and racism black people went/go through (in fact we're the reason they even struggled in the first place). Its not our place.
Source: A white person who listened during history class.
Usually when Asians pull up the corners of their eyes to mimic other Asians, it's mostly used as like a joke on how the person's eyes look. There's nothing really wrong with it unless it's meant as a racial stereotype. For example, I'm full Chinese but my eyes are bigger than what the stereotype says. Usually caucasians would mock me by pulling up their eyes even when mine aren't slanted or squinted. That would be an offensive sterotype.
This manga goes from deep and depressing to silly and surreal, then back again.
Not sure if I should be excited by or afraid of future chapters...
Gay or Straight, men are pretty much the same; they all seem terrified of their own feelings.
Wow. So Savage. I respectfully disagree. I've met a lot of women who are absolutely terrified of their own feelings (like myself) and a lot of men who are open and confident about their own feelings.
In short: not all men are the same. And it's not true that all men are afraid of talking about feelings...
"I figure I was helping you by turning you into whore, even though you cried non-stop and begged me not to..."
What an asshole!!!
I think he meant it more like if the shop hadn’t needed another boy momo wouldn’t have to become a prostitute. But since it was inevitable, the brother rather he himself train momo gently than let another person possibly treat him harshly. Still sucked tho.
That's not how it read to me.
I thought he was just trying to make himself feel better because, deep down, he knew a real brother would have moved heaven and earth to prevent Momo from going into prostitution.
isn't it because their parents died and he has no other options since that is the only work he knows? in the first place before being a mawashi one has been a kagema when he was young so i think the brother also suffered before..he has good intentions but given the circumstances it is the best he could think of for Momo...this is what I like about this manga..it did not glamorize prostitution and showed a real glimpse of being a kagema in Edo-era Japan
Yeah, that's how I understood it.
Ehhh really? But the brother also said that if he hadn't lost his child this wouldn't have happened so I think he could have prevented all this
Exactly, I got the impression that all those things he said were just the excuses he was using to make himself feel better about what he did.
Basically, if he and his wife could have afforded to start a family, then he could easily have afforded to keep his brother out of prostitution.
I mean, if his baby had lived, was he planning on having his own child become a whore when he or she got old enough?
If so, he's an even bigger scumbag than I thought.
Nii-chan said when he was asked why Momoki gonna be an okama that it was because he had to take care of his duties and because the relative who took care of him passed away. That was his reasons. He said after that he was mourning for the lost of his child and that maybe of not he would find him other more respectable ocuppation. Then he began to indulging himself thinking on that he became his trainer to make him the experience kinder, but he could have chose others paths, anyone would have done that. He is cold, a coward and a depraved man, no more no less, don't sugar-coat what the mangaka stated very clear and btw good written, simply explained. Someone said in the chapter that Momoki was a depressing kagema always crying, he knew he hated it, he refused al the offers to work he was given and his older brother didnt care.
Well, sorry but Im very emocional right now...
Well I’m sorry that it’s making you emotional, enough to lash out and claim I’m trying to sugar coat things, but I honestly don’t remember Nii-chan having a kid. I’ll reread it to see if I missed anything. If I DID miss it then you’ll understand my confusion that I thought the end part meant that the lost kid was a previous kid training to be a kagema. And that inital misunderstanding led me to believe that Nii-chan felt like he had no choice in regard to momo becoming the next kagema. I was simply stating an opinion in the previous post and was not at all rude. Your emotional state is not an excuse to lash out on me just because my opinion differed from yours. Kindly calm down.
I think you are right. the kid that died was supposed to be the next boy and momos relative that was taking care if him died. neither if them were the same person, his nephew or his anki. he wasn't mourning, the shop just had lost a tool that needed replacing.
brothers wife DID die in childbirth, but brothers kid was still there
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/momo_to_manji/mf/af10f2dc298aeeab99309b4fa494aaa3_chapter-5/pg-6/
I took the rest of it the way you initially did in your first response as well.
Sorry if Ive been rude, that wasnt my intention. I didnt meant it were you who made me emotional but the manga. My english is not very good when it comes to write it and my way of express things comes out awckward or blunt maybe? Yes he said that they lost a child in the shop but thats more like a opportunity more like an obligation, as I said older brother said he cant take care of him due to his own duties. Its not out of necessity at least its what I get. I think the key is this page:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/momo_to_manji/mf/af10f2dc298aeeab99309b4fa494aaa3_chapter-6/pg-24/
Anyway if it is what you say anyway he can replace the kid for another than his "cute little brother", not that he wasnt any better, he is prostituting kids as a living but well the way he indulged himself pissed me off so much and I cant rationalize when children are involved. He maybe has been in that world all his life for choice or not, idk, but your lil bro dont want to be there, he cried non-stop everytime, and now he says hemeant well and tear. No no, I dont buy it.
If someone wanna share his thoughts about this matter I appreciated it cause Id like to understand the situation completly and now I have doubts.
I hope I express well what I mean. Sorry.
Yes, I found the entire situation sad, unfortunate, and deplorable. It is an unfortunate fact that historically things did happen that way. I won’t defend the nii-chan but the only way I can understand why he didn’t take momo away and start a different job is because the Niki-chan likely didn’t have any other choice. If the nii-chan could work somewhere else then he’d be doing that instead of working in a brothel in the first place. It’s likely that during this time, this horrible job paid relatively well especially for someone who probably doesn’t have any talent in doing anything else. I’m also not sure but I think during this approximate time Japan’s farmers weren’t doing so well either and had to move to the city to look for jobs and if they couldn’t work for some establishment, then they got shit jobs like this. :( it’s all very sad.
Yeah there was just a lot of information provided in just a few lines so it would’ve been easy to miss something. Nii chan and momo’s situation still sucks either way you take it, just that one situation paints nii chan as a bit more heartless than the other.