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yoonbum x crutches x therapy

Oh thank goodness. I thought I was the only one hoping he'll get taken away.

thank the lord there are others who share my opinion on this. Sangwoo needs to be in jail, and there's no question about that. People say their relationship is 'beautiful' and im like??? where in the world do you see BEAUTIFUL in a relationship as disconcerting and fucked up as that?

I knor right. People are literally romanticizing this violent and psychotic relationship.

I am totally, i mean super happy that there are some who truly have pity and concern...

honestly, i just started reading this.... B4 reading this, my guts is telling me to stay away because of the title... Got curious because of its popularity..I started reading this and damn, this ia totally not something romantic at all!!!! This manhwa webcomic is pure madness!!!

I think the author really wants to show us that psychotic love is truly unhealthy and should be everyone's concern....

I do pray that yoonbum could get out cause I am so pity of him, he is traumatized, injured and so thin and yeah that bastard Sangwoo should go to jail!!! Rot him!!!

i ship sangbum

I find that really funny too. But hey then again, it is a manga, anything can happen but right not those twin theories, I find stupid.

*feeds troll*

*feeds troll*

*feeds troll*

Yup, the twin would have no reason to pretend to be Ciel anyway

Actually there's a lot of "evidence" and it kinda support the story plot that's why there's a lot of supporter for the twin theory, no? Here's a website where someone explain the evidence of the theory and i think it's actually pretty legit? ┗( T﹏T )┛
http://theofficialdoublecieltheorist.blogspot.co.id/

Just saying. No hate please (=・ω・=)

Im not really hating, I've read this before. I just think it's more like people want ciel to have a twin. I'm not hating, I've just re-read this manga so many times that the thought of ciel having a twin never crossed my mind.

Yup Kuroshitsuji has always been one of my favourite manga and I've also re-read it a lot. Never have the thought of twins. But Yana Tooboso has always manage to surprise me in her story... there's a lot of plot twist so I guess it's possible...? Who knows? Oh and btw I know you don't mean any hate what I mean by my comment below is to not hate me for kinda pro on the twin ciel story hehe (づ￣ ³￣)づ

I'm not a fan of twin ciel theory either. but look at ciel's blood lineage, the bark under vincent's name is branched and Yana Toboso is a very detailed artist so you can't say that this theory is baseless. http://68.media.tumblr.com/1530ad68b3deb2e01b2c2e484a7b90ae/tumblr_inline_o6tq052NHR1sm83b7_500.jpg

What's wrong with this fandom..
Everybody is arguing..
All of us have different opinion and I believe that each of us deserve respect.
What's wrong with romanticizing or even fantasizing the 2 main protagonist..
We all know that it is a work of fiction. And it is the only time that we get to indulge in this guilty pleasure of ours.
We are SANE people, so we know what's RIGHT or WRONG.
So if someone was in the same position as the protagonist then we will gladly help this people..
Please don't take this SERIOUSLY!!!
Can we all just enjoy this manga and let people just indulge in their fantasies...

first of all this is yaoi.. yaoi is fantasy..
please dont mix fantasy with reality...
not only this, many yaoi is also unhealthy like rape first and then falling in love.
Im glad in this manhwa Sangwoo didn't rape bum.

Im just here for the banter ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I got the popcorn

I got drinks

I know right. I know works are fiction. BuI "I know the diff between fake and real" has become some sort of excuse especially when there's a difference between "kinky" and down right "batshit insane against the law". Sure you like to ship and all that but somehow i feel that ppl invade with typical yaoi shipping into even the most inappropriate of themes like some endurance battle like how they can endure and feel turned on and be "cool" even though they really won't stand a chance. It's like fans are now wired for one thing instead of being flexible in how they see works. A lot of comments I saw (not just here) is just (hot guy+ blood +violence = so kinky! pls do more) and once it's not a hot guy anymore they turn into hypocrites and bash those who like those works on deeper levels. It's like they never grew up from that stage.

I am letting people "indulge in their fantasies" I'm just stating that I found it sad. Can I not give my opiniom? I'm not criticizing anyone or harassing anyone because of their views I just said I find it sad.

I'm not mixing it in. I was just stating that this happens in real life. I think a lot of the readers are young and don't see the potential issues with viewing this couple as being "cute" this is just as extreme as rape. In regualr yaoi it's the guy getc raped and falls in love. This story entirely different, including violence, torture and kidnapping. Bum is literally in fear of his life and people think that everything is so cute the way sang woo "cares" for bum. I think it's just readers completely looking over bum's mental state. People are viewing this as any other yaoi too, but it's ts more complex

Just thowing out my two cents, because it seems to be the unpopular opinion of this topic. I think what makes a story good, even in fantasy, is the level of believability of the story. Koogi puts effort in not simply labeling them as ambiguously mentally ill but specifically labels Sangwoo as a psychopath and Bum as an individual with borderline personality disorder. Both of them have continuously exhibited the symptoms of their respective mental illness so I expect them to act accordingly. As a psychopath, I do not beleive Sangwoo is capable of having a loving relationship such as one seen in a romantic story. What he loves is manipulating, dominating, toying with and torturing people. I know anything can happen in the world of yaoi but there's still there's still a lot of questions to be answered before I can assume love is involved here. I think there's a couple of ways his reaction could be explained in chapter 13. I'm not denying that Sangwoo has grown attached to Bum but I'm not yet convinced it's love. He could have been offput by the thought Bum, his victim, seemingly manipulated him and ran away. While Sangwoo toys with his victims all the time he's not okay with someone doing that to him. I'm assuming none of his victims have ever gotten away so for Bum to get away without a trace would be shocking. Because this is fiction and the story is no way obligated to follow rules of the real world, there is always the possibility that Sangwoo genuinely loves Bum and fears a world without him. I'd be a bit disappointed in the story if it took that route though. At this point in the story I also question if Bum still loves Sangwoo. Sangwoo has put him through a lot of trauma and there's the possibility the image of Sangwoo as a knight in shining armour is gone. There's also the possibility that he still idolizes Sangwoo and despite the abuse he can't help but love him. Even if there is "love" involved here it's still abusive and therefore I will never consider it cute or romantic.

RT THANK YOU FOR THIS ^^^^^

Glad to know other people feel this way(I'm the anon "A" above btw, was too lazy to log in at the time). Had this debate with someone the other day and was begining to wonder if others felt the same.

haha yeah. people on instagram are blowing up about this too- there's just less people shipping them.

The banter just the banter ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I respect your opinion, I actually respect anyone's opinion, and I'm probably just throwing out lame excuses as to why i ship it: You've probably heard many times that people actually think Yoonbum has the 'Stockholm Syndrome'. I don't think so. Even if something like that was evolved, I think rather than that, Sangwoo's getting the 'London Syndrome' (which could eventually explain his behaviour at the end of chapter 13). It seems more logical to me, since Bum has liked Sangwoo even before he got kidnapped.

Yeah, I disagree 100% with the Stockholm Syndrome theory as Bun felt that way before being captured. Haven't heard of London Syndrome. Is that like Lima Syndrome? I disagreed with that theory because it would require Sangwoo to have a sense of empathy.

I dnt think niichan is her father, maybe her brother ***

I think he's her brother since he left his house a long time ago, maybe he doesn't know he has sister.
I think. Maybe. Probably. I don't know. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

but mavis feel it too yo xD maybe with just only kiss will u-know-what uwu;;

So we basically confirmed all those who have done it before. Now the question is, who have they done it with, since Laxus, Laki, Mavis, and Minerva were all affected. However unfortunately we didn't see Gajeel and Levi in this chapter, so still no confirmation on them.

Nah i don't think kiss cos erza and jella kiss once right? But erza not effected at all. Probably sex? Or love feeling?

Erza has kissed Kagura xD not jellal that never happend x)

hahaha that kiss left erza stumped lmao xD maybe passion plays part in it???

Or maybe if u have somebody u like xD so it makes u feel good cause you have the one u love on ur mind? xD idk...kills me that we have to wait a week for the next chapter TTvTT

THANK YOU. T^T Also, same here!

I started reading this manga before and stopped since it seemed boring and clichéd the beginning. But I love your comment because I hate the common "love your abusive, overly possessive rapist" yaoi trope. I don't know why it's so popular among mangakas tbh. If it were a female protagonist it would piss me off, since I have a cousin IRL that was abused both as a child and by her husband. She lived with me for couple years to escape him but now has returned to him. Of course both her dad and husband told her they love her, and she feels both trapped and obligated to "serve" them. It's not love IMO if there is abuse - because the vast majority of abusers never "change" and revert to abusive behavior when victims return to their partners. I know this is just fantasy, but it strikes a negative chord with me. I stop reading and/or avoid those mangas. But I like appreciate your comment because it sounds like this has a decent plot. I always read for the plot, so thanks!

Right,violence/abuse does not equal love.. I feel bad for your cousin, my mom was i n the same situation though eventually she eventually left my dad.(you should probably talk to her, being in a toxic relationship can lead to horrible things)
I wasn't going to read this either after I noticed the typical rape trope, but then the uke saved the story for me. He doesn't give in and is still trying hard to keep his pride in tact. This story shows how fake people are too. I think it's a good story as long as the uke doesn't end up liking the seme.

I agree with you, this manga's got a unique plot.This manga isn't one of my favourites yet since Azusa and Atsumu are still suffering, but it will, if they both join hands and do something that would make Karino and Kuze pay for what they're doing.This is personally how I'd prefer the manga to turn out.

I am totally with u..after seeing the raw,i wanna do sth cruel to Karino and Kuze,,,they should suffer for wht they huv done if it's it out of love or not...i m so pissed...