Oh noooo....a break up arc...... Oh noooooo, I guess we'll have to focus on side characters now! I guess we'll have to follow the incredibly hot goddess of life and death! I guess we'll have to see if that one blush scene leads to yuri!! Oh nooooo!!!! :((((
I have to say this, because it's on my mind since chapter one, but the fashion in this is god awful. I'm not even really complaining !! Like it's certainly more interesting to look at than some safer choices. But the colors, the way the fabric is layered or how it sits on the body (especially the dresses) is just ugly
Well, I may be wrong, but I believe it to be one of the most "accurate" stories in terms of fashion design. Which does not deny what you said, it just means that we had awful fashion and styling sense back in the day hahaha
You read my mind because yikes...why does it look like the judge was wearing shorts
That’s the vibe I got. The overall aesthetics actually give a more historically medieval vibe compared to complete fantasy. Not saying it’s totally accurate, not at all, just that it gives that vibe. Definitely a bit of fresh air considering how many fantasy series tend to follow the same fashion ideas.
Agreed. I'm so tired of reading stories that are supposed to be medieval and women are all wearing pencil skirts while men are wearing suits... lol Like, people had ridiculous sense of fashion, I get that, but we modernize the clothes too much makes the Magick go away, you know? I agree that it's a fresh air that we are missing from other stories.
you get it! I personally don’t find it all that ugly, so yippee on that front for me. I think it’s nice when you get some proper variety between comics. I enjoy the nice, cool fantasy suits and stuff, but this really gives a more old fashion fantasy vibe!!
I do agree with you guys, but my problem wasn't the historic fashion haha. Guys got poofy shorts on top of thighs? Awesome. Dumbass white wig? Love that. Odd silhouettes of historical dresses? That's my jam!!!
It is the "modern" clothes that I have an issue with. Like while side characters are allowed to look funny with the odd historical clothes, the main ones are clearly going for something different.
The main character's vest and coat look too big on him, and they don't make an appealing silhouette together. The zigzag pattern looks stupid, but more in a "sci-fi fashion" way, than any attempt to imitate historical fashion. I find that the colors also clash a bit, but that's a personal preference.
The maid's dress is what inspired me to finally write this comment. That lilac doesn't go with her red vibe at all. It was supposed to sit on her loosely like silk, but the way it was bunched up on top made it look like poorly sewn cotton.
I'm not a prude, so I don't care if all the female characters have big boobs in tight tops, but a lot of the dresses just aren't working. To the point where maybe a historically accurate corset and dress would accentuate the curves better than whatever silky revealing top they have on.
Thank you all for coming to my old-man-yelling-at-cloud hour.
I took a second look at their outfits and honestly I still disagree with you, but it’s a point of opinion. I’ve seen dresses like hers, where the top is bunched and that’s the intention, whereas the bottom is the smooth part. It’s not my personal cup of tea, but I’ve seen enough designs like that. Personally I’d just raise the sleeves a little, but that’s about it. The lilac and red also doesn’t clash that heavily imo, especially with the white of her hair.
Personally I just don’t see what you’re seeing, ain’t nothing wrong with that though. I personally enjoyed his outfit as well.
I know what u mean since he's the MC. I find the outfits lacking compare with Cale henituse from the lout of the count's family. Hahah but if its giving a 1800's timeline I dont care anymore. (￣∇￣")
I love overprotective husband Izek, but I could really do with some overprotective brother Izem too rn. Poor Ellen. Obviously poor Ruby, but damn
I'm sorry, I just don't understand why it was necessary to handle this plot point so clumsily. Our male lead is a serial killer, we can handle the protagonist being a bad older sister.
It makes no sense for him to want to stay with his aunt, if he clearly saw her hit his sister. It is completely unnecessary to make him so cruel to her and so unforgiving.
I don't need him to be a perfect victim, but the author is clearly framing this in a way, that makes the brother's resentment nonsensical.
I promise we would've been able to handle it, if she left her brother behind without a second thought.
I promise we would've been able to handle it, if she hit him for something less hurtful.
It's so fucking weird, because there's all the ingredients to a morally and emotionally complicated story??? Like if I was writing this, the obvious take would be that the brother resents his sister for the neglect that facilitated the sexual abuse. But if he never wanted to be around her in the first place, then he's just pissy because she hit him once when they were kids. It doesn't make the protagonist kinder, it makes her duller.
"My sister, who I loved and relied on, was too busy studying ((to make a better life for us)), not knowing I needed her then to protect me and I resent her because her independence cost me my childhood."
is just better than
"My bitch ass demon sister hit me one time, so now I want nothing to do with her and I'd rather stay with my abusive aunt. I wish she died with our parents."
Yeah the story has all the ingredients but fails because it’s essentially protecting the mc as a ‘rightful’ person who’s being wronged by those around her
I legitimately thought she did something egregious to her brother, like he opened up about abuse and she shut it down. The author has made his entire personality anger and hurt a mess that doesn’t make sense, because his older sister hasn’t actually done anything wrong
That exists in real life too but it feels just…incomplete here. And because this abuse is secondary to the main story which is our male lead and his obsessions, it feels like just a not so well thought out addition to add to the ‘problems’ around the female lead
Then again our male lead also feels incomplete in that sense. I love that this story is unique but the author doesn’t flesh it out well. It’s a bunch of blocky story points or character tropes
I feel like the main thesis of this manga is parents failing their children.
Perez is a special case and I have an extreme hot take, so just put a pin in that.
Astana and Bellesac are both driven by the desire to impress their parents. They act prideful in front of strangers, but continually humiliated and insulted behind closed doors. Although they're obviously cruel and foolish, their motivations are the same as Florentias: protect their family. The Angenas family has left behind a legacy of bloodshed and if Astana doesn't seize power, both of their mothers (and Astana himself) are put in extreme danger.
The emperor and the empress are no exceptions to this. He's the most powerful man in the empire, yet he's still haunted by his abusive father. She's desperately clinging to whatever power she may have in her role as matriarch of her family.
The Lombardi are better, but not by much. To Tia, her grandfather is a kind old man, but his children don't know him as a father, but as a patriarch. Florentia's father was forced into a submissive role in the family and the eldest was allowed to dominate and abuse others. They share blood, but they clearly don't have any close relationship to each other.
While Florentia's father was obviously always very kind, he was rather weak, to the point that had Tia nod had experiences of an adult, she would've been ousted from the family. However kind they are, under the grandfather's and father's supervision, Tia spent her first childhood being bullied.
Bonus points for the aunt for being strong and kind to her sons, who grew up to be strong and kind. Though obviously there was a struggle with the cheating husband.
So.....the hot take time. While the author obviously made them meet as little as possible while they were children, it's obvious that Florentia's experience as an adult and his inexperience as a child shaped their relationship. She took care of him in a way only adult would have enough autonomy to and that he wouldn't have been as impressed with as the adult he was in his previous life. I'm not calling Tia a pedo or something, there is point to this:
The only reason why Florentia can change her fate and the fate of others, is because she doesn't have to rely on these adults to take care of her. She loved her family, but she doesn't trust them (rightfully so!) to protect her without her intervention. She knows that if she let others take care of her, she'd die a tragic premature death.
She has so much agency, because others around her are still trying to navigate their families, while she has already decided to shape it to fit her. Perez also doesn't have to navigate his family, because it's dogshit and they hate him.
Posted my essay too early tsk. Could've easily done two more paragraphs. Anyway blah blah blah, the children are relying on adults, who are still stuck trying to impress their parents, thereby neglecting or objectifying their children as reflections of themselves, making the cycle of neglect continue blah blah blah blah you know the drill
Super valid! I don’t think it’s a hot take at all. Like you’ve said, we’ve seen what happened to Florentia in her first life and she struggled a lot.
She was basically a parent (or some kind of guiding figure) to most of the people around her during her second life; including her dad, Perez, bellezac’s brother (who’s name I can’t remember), hell even her “teacher” (who’s another person with a shitty parent).
But on a realistic note; there is no perfect parenting. I think Tia’s dad is a good example of that; he’s a good guy, loves his child (in both lives) but even then, things go wrong. But there’s no doubt that parenting affects your children in ways beyond someone might fathom.
Adding on my observation, on the other side of Astana and Bellesac wanting to impress their parents, their parents don’t see them as anything more than tools to continue their family legacy/raise their status. As seen from multiple chapters where the Empress fuels Astana’s incompetency by not acknowledging his independence and individuality by just saying “continue following what mother says and everything will be alright” as if seeing him as just a puppet or an extension of herself instead of as her child and an individual person. And in Bellesac’s case his father’s ego and mother’s fear of being cast out as useless, his own opinions and personal growth are ignored (in that earlier chapter where he got schooled by Tia and he was reflecting but got immediately shot down by his dad)
Meanwhile Tia was allowed/was forced to develop her own independence and strong personality due to her kind and loving (but also weak) father and was guided by the patriarch in her young adult years as a business woman (and as a survival tactic in a dying family/business) and no one really wanted her to be a carbon copy. Perez, on the other had had a physical and visual reminder of what NOT to be due to the torment he suffered as a child from an insecure father and a jealous step-mother.
Can you imagine if this was drawn by someone who didn't like boob windows and drawing yaoi. What a full world that would be
DULL I MEANT DULL I'M NOT AGAINST BOOB WINDOWS AND YAOI FUUUCUJKKKKKK
Glad to know I'm not the only one admiring the boob windows.
Risky typo
WE'VE WON!!!!!!!! PENELOPE WON!!!! SUMMER MAY BE ENDING, BUT WINTERS SURE AS HELL AIN'T COMING!!!
Today is a big day for the choking fetishist! Congratulations!!!!!!!!!
My sincere condolences to the pegging enthusiasts, but there's always next time.
God this comment kills me
I honestly thought he was going to get pegged before he was choked Well... you win some and you lose some I guess
As a pegging enthusiast, I rather enjoyed it
Hopefully she'll peg him and choke him at the same time.ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
So real, because I would also do anything to catch a manipulative beautiful woman's attention
Dra..dragon yaoi....
I...kind of approve. They're lovely together
Yaoi? Alek is a girl i believe.
Lol ignore my previous comment. It seems the inconsistent translation and the fact that every character besides Alec was female made me think Alek was a girl. Initially i was sure he was a dude but one chapter cover had him in a pajama set were his chest didn't look flat.
I think alek's mother said "MY SON" because i've read official manga that before
Yeah I've only seen the fan translation. So i saw girl somewhere
Yeah but maybe we will see