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There are some spoilers and yes iirc she's going to be a bitch

Oh no

LOL Yes, the author knows it means prison. Author said:

Cárcel + Escalante + Esposa
Prison + Climb + Wife

One who willingly climbs into the prison of his wife.

You're fucking kidding me

It’s the truth. I forgot the order in which she chose the names for him but she took it as fate when the three together meant that because it’s essentially captures Carcel’s character with his wife.

LMAOOO really went with the name no question

I can't believe she chose the names (plural! I didn't know they were all his) knowing their meaning and then she even has a misogynistic explanation for it?!?!?!

Please enlighten me how the meaning is misogynistic:

Definition: strongly prejudiced against women.

How does Carcel “willingly” entering into the ‘prison’ (a metaphor used to describe the way he chooses of his volition to be beholden and faithful to only her, over the lifetimes, even when she isn’t his wife) misogynistic? It’s his choice alone.

Prison, definition:
a building in which people are legally held as a punishment for a crime they have committed or while awaiting trial.

Keyword punishment.
Seeing faithufulness towards a woman as a punishment... okay.

Calling marriage a prison is a deeply misogynistic practice. E.g. jokes about "the last day of freedom" by bachelor's. Men most of times entered marriage willingly yet regarded it as being taken of their freedom.
This was and still is at the expense of women. Women are portrayed as the incarcerators, the ones taking away freedom, despite men flourishing in marriage while women suffer under it.

To me a prison is not a nice thing. Even a metaphorical prison isn't. It's an ugly place I'm being held at against my will to be punished for.
Calling love, calling marriage, calling being tied to a woman being in a prison is not only ugly but as I've stated misogynistic.


I'm sure the author didn’t mean it that way at all but misogyny displays itself in each one of us in subtle ways may be unaware of.

Don't you got a prob with how you view things. Not all prison mean that. It just mean he trapped to Ines. It's not just any wife or women that you keep bringing up. What part of fate that he's tied to Ines only that you don't understand. The wife in his name always only means Ines. It's not just wife or women because Ines is his only wife. On the other hand, Ines was never tied to him. When they wished before they die, she wanted him to be free from her. He let her be with other men that she choose but he also wished to forever love her. This is his prison that he "willingly" asked for. It's your problem and your view of anything misogynistic to even bring up only a negative definition of prison or even to say marriage and wife when the Escalante in his name only means Ines. Then when was he tied to other women or marrying? All nobles in that timeline HAD to marry. This isn't even about mysogny. You're the one being mysogny to bring up something that doesn't got to do with it.

Please no.

In this scenario the prison is a prison because she’s Ines and not because she’s a woman, I don’t think it’s misogynistic at all. The image of Ines “chaining” Carcel to her due to her choosing him from a young age has been repeated since the beginning of the novel.

This is not because Ines, a woman, marrying Carcel, a man, is seen as a woman tying a man down, trapping him in a prison where’s he’s no longer allowed to do as he pleases (like the mysogynistic narratives you stated above). This is because Ines, having lived 2 insanely difficult life, has chosen to Carcel to act as her lifeboat in her desperation to escape the lives she’s lived before. However, in this process, she’s taken Carcel’s right to determine his future away from him, to other people he’s chained to her, no matter what he does he’ll be her husband in the end.

However, unlike how other people (Ines included) sees it, Carcel actually loves Ines, he’s willingly tied himself to her. She offers to return his freedom to him multiple times and he refused it. So I think the intent of the author is Ines’s schemes/plans for him is a prison Carcel willingly walks into, not that the marriage with Ines, a woman, is a prison he’s walking into. Of course, you can read it differently, but personally I think it’s reductive to ignore the entire context of the story and intepret the meaning purely on the words chosen to make up his name. (If I made any grammatical mistake or appear too agressive, I apologize, english is not my first language.)

The author actually intends for the ‘prison’ to be his voluntary attachment to Ines over all lives. It’s nothing to do with this one life and he choosing him to marry at 6. It’s over all the lifetimes. Once the complete story is told, readers would understand her intention better.

Oohhh that’s interesting. I haven’t read the spoilers so I thought the prison was this specific lifetime.

No. All lives. As the manhwa has already revealed, he has loved her in at least two timelines. More will be revealed later.

It's all lives bc they had a rl 1st life together where they married. Ines made a wish to free Carcel from her bc she think he deserve better and to be happy. Carcel let her choose to be with other men she choose but also wish to love her forever so that was him willingly choosing to chain himself to love her forever even if he lets her go against her fate to choose other men. That is why she's his prison bc he's chained to love her forever but she was free to always choose other men. The other men just can't make her happy so she chose him again. That was also part of the wish. The angel wanted Carcel to fix Ines wish bc she was trying to go against their fate by splitting them but Carcel let Ines choose her own path. He only wish for her to choose him again if no other men can make her happy. That's why whenever we see ppl saying Emiliano made her free and happy are wrong bc if she was happy, she wouldn't have chose Carcel again. It was all part of their wish.

Yes the last chapter

I hate kardi getting jealous over her fucking brother

Yes its weird!

HELP BASHHWHWHAHHASJSJAJAJAJHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

She does, she’s just not sure if she can express it the way yuria does
Like she likes her, but she doesn’t know if she can because of their difference in status kinda thing

Y?

I'll just copy-paste my review hahaha. So this is long, beware.
This shit is so cringe. It was cute in the beginning but the more it goes on the more i dislike every character and their weird ass relationships.
I'm developing an intense hatred for this webcomic. I can't even hate-read it.
This is based on a Thai drama and you can totally feel it. It doesn't translate well at all. Thai drama can be excessive but being a visual medium it works better and the jokes are not as boring. This just took every problem of Thai drama and made it WORSE.

I hate soohyuk. He is boring. He steps over taein's boundaries multiple times and ist nothing but an overboarding dude who's obsessed with Taein. He has no personality.
Taein on the other hand has a personality, which is being an annoying brat. He doesn't know what he wants even 60 chapters in. He hates soohyuk, then he wants to be friends with him, then he hates him again. He hates how popular soohyuk but also likes soohyuk SOMETIMES. Like, it doesn't feel like it because he always pushes him away but whatever. Then once their relationship starts sailing (like four or five times) he instantly thinks about Mirae. They have had a relationship talk so many times and Taein would agree to trying things out and suddenly he's in love with Mirae again????? It feels like cheating, even though Soohyuk is pushing the relationship Taein kinda agrees.

Like their relationship just SUCKS. It's so one sided and Taein has no idea what he wants. His friends question him about his feelings for soohyuk and he flat out denies it (and it's not cause of homophobia or any other kind of fear) and says he prefers cute girls??? And then a friend suggests getting rid of Soohyuk and Taein agrees??? I'm floored. There have been multiple times where I'm just looking at my screen completely speechless because of how often Taein will repeat the same shit again and again.
Then he has his random fits of jealousy??? He'll scream all day because of how much Soohyuks advances annoy him but he sees Soohyuk merely talk to a girl and it depresses him so much HE HAS TO LEAVE THE CAFÉ AND HIDES AT HOME. And he cries about how soohyuk doesn't love him but her JUST BECAUSE HE FLICKED HER HEAD ONCE. He has no idea who she is. He has seen her interact with soohyuk once. And soohyuk has done nothing but aggressively profess his love for taein. I hate those chapters. It doesn't stop after that. When taein and Soohyuk meet a friend pats Taein's head and Soohyuk gets so jealous HE PULLS TAEIN TO THE BATHROOM TO SCREAM AT HIM WHY HE LET THAT GUY TOUCH HIM. Remember: at this point they've both kind of confessed their feelings for each other like 5 times but they are not in a relationship.

Then there's this completely unnecessary love rival. He's nothing but an useless villain. I don't feel anything towards him. I hate him.

The art is fine but I hate their shitass expressions. Everything is so over exaggerated and mild jealousy looks like blood rage. Cute moments are nothing but cringe.

The whole social media thing also is just so??? I'm tired. It's boring to read and they are so cringe. Also like, do they not know private messages are a thing? They communicate exclusively through comments on posts and spill the most private information ever on there. Ans how taein found out that soohyuk asked that guy to take the picture of his form down IN THE COMMENTS is so weird. Like he could've found out on his own phone?
And the importance "imstar" has in this webcomic, yaaawn. I could die. There are way too many scenes about them posting on imstar and commenting under each posts.
And you're telling me soohyuk got their imstar id's engraved on a ring????? Brooo

It's just so voyeuristic. Why are they on Taein's back about them sleeping with each other??? It's none of your business. It goes on and on. One friend sees them buy condoms, another explains soohyuk how to do it and another helps soohyuk when taein gets sick the morning after they did it. They know every single move and I wouldn't be surprised if they did a porno for the friends ro see.
Andddd even in their relationship soohyuk molests taein. The whole sex talk is so bad
And the brother plotline. GO AWAY.

Also, soohyuk stop calling Taein your wife. The sex sucked. First i was happy cause they talked about research but then obviously taein bottomed, like??? When has he ever expressed he wants that?? When havr they talked about it?? And then the next morning taein is hurting and has a literal fever cause they went so hard. And before that there's a part where soohyuk contemplates whether he wants taein to "cry out in pleasure" or not hurt during the sex??? And he's undecided ?? Like bro what is there to contemplate???

Ohh, can't deny that, your insult / bad rating accepted

Can I recommend you a bl , if you're interested it's "boy meets Marie" not sure if it's your taste tho, give it a try

MIC DROP

No cuz I agree, it was honestly a hard read too. I was so lost while reading... I was even doubting if soohyuk actually liked taein. Like I can't see or feel it. Taein is annoying too.

Thank you, I'll look into it, looks interesting

Sameee

i completely agree omg

clocked

Thankfully you're wrong in the photo blonde hair clearly was seen