What happens when you get a name change or have a name twin. There’s like a million John Smiths or Park Ji-hos.
From this world logic and the ml's endless question, the name engraved will be their partners birth name (which is why the ml asked if mc change his name, cuz if his name is not his birth name then he's really not ml's partner). For the name twin, it's also definitely mentioned it's possible which is why mc is hellbent on searching another same name as him with same date. Well for that they most likely rely on clues (like when did the tattoo appears so they can guess their partner's age or birthday). Also, while having same name is normal but the partner's name is each other's name (like, if A have B on his body and B have A on his body then they're high chance a partner) so it's definitely harder to mistook your partner. That's probably the reason why "partner search" thingy exist in first place.
I hope whatever the fuck I wrote make sense since I read ts and wrote that explanation at 4am and is sleep deprived currently
But I always get so thrown out of the story when authors make “sleep talking” (or in this case drug induced sleep talking) characters speak in full sentences. Like, many of us have done this or experienced someone do this and no one has ever held what is basically half of a conversation it’s so offputting I see it in so many works to push a narrative.
I know someone that can have a whole conversation and be sleeping. It’s enjoyable but I know that not the usual case.
Okay so definitely a case of the exception not the rule! That must be super odd to witness, you must have thought they were trying to mess with you.
I just KNOW you aren’t the same motherfuckers who were wishing death on Gren right before this because please lmaooo
After reading all the novels can I just say I fucking HATE all the characters except Christoph and Kyle. Do they all have moments where you go, “oh wow how romantic was that line” or “how badass was that action”? Sure. (Except for Richard he can die in an Iron Maiden.) But are those few micro seconds worth the rest of their actions and overall arcs? Absolutely fucking not I’m so sick of them. I was ESPECIALLY appalled during Diaphonic Symphonia at Richard and Tae (separately). You can disagree with me as is your taste and opinion and I did choose to read and finish these to give them the benefit of the full work but. All of these are atrocious in character building, I’m horrified at the gratuitous rape fetish and inability to create any type of satisfying resolution beyond rapist+victim=true love. That’s all, I had to get it off my chest after sitting through all those novels.
concerning ilay and tay..i just wanna ask if you read suite too? and suite: complete works?..because their story isn’t over from just DS..also because i was also frustrated with every thing until i read suite because you really get to understand ilay as a person even if you don’t like his character. in my opinion ilay really made me love him more in the “suite” part of passion. i personally hate richard with every fiber of my being and do not approve whatever is going on btwn him and christoph because he fucking broke that guy like as if his shitty mother wasn’t bad enough and he had imposter syndrome issues since childhood richard made his life hell on earth. Richard is a disgusting piece of shit and i wish the worst for him. i thought christoph would annoy me but he really grew on me. i really wanted him to find himself and cut all ties with dresden..
YES YES YES YES
it's being a long time since I read it and I don't remember the end exactly (I vaguely remember the suite) but I remember the felling that tae is still trapped, especially after he is raped several times after being caught by ilay.
I remember talking with my sister about it that I had so much faith in the novel but it end up a huge disappointment.
tay said he was willing to take n the burden and danger that comes with being with ilay and ilay himself wanst okay with that that’s why okay literally swore that if tay dies he would too and rae said that without ilay his life would be miserable and he would choose him very single time despite what comes with it. He chose to leave xinlu in hong kong to stay with ilay because he wanted to..he knew that ilay would be mad and angry but he still went back to him. pls don’t underestimate tay resolve to wanting to stay with ilay..they are literally bound by life and death :/ tay is very aware with the weight of ilay love towards him but still accepts it no matter how painful it is..suite literally showed them talking abt this..they are not your everyday couple and you absolutely need to under how they both function mentally to properly enjoy the process. it’s not for everyone and that’s okay lol
Ooh now I remember why I was so pissed off now haha it was bc ilay's reaction, ignoring tay (I think he gags him?) and raping him until tay is able to speak up. I also got angry bc we didn't get a full smut that wasn't rape, even that last smut is just a blowjob. I also didn't like that the resolution about the organization, everything was rushed.
I don't mind toxic couples, 2HA is one of my fav novels ever, even if Moran is WAY worse than Ilay, my problem was with the resolution about the main couple and the whole plot itself. (I'm not trying to fight, I really just remember why I didn't like the ending now )
i see what you are getting at it’s all good i really enjoyed and loved the novel and all it’s part so i tend to get over- defensive
Yes, when I said I read all the novels I was serious. Ilay at parts could become a sympathetic character which I think I alluded to but my main point was that the actions taken in the relationships couldn’t outweigh the little actions/one liners here and there for me. Ilay didn’t change as a person, he only changed towards Tae in the fact that he fell in love (if you would generously call it that and not obsession/possession.) Tae is a whole different can of worms I want to throw in a microwave and explode, I wish I never had to be inside his head for the novels I fucking hated his experiences and thought process. Not only do I stand by him not adding value to any situation but he even detracts value and makes everything worse. But I digress, I read all the novels and wish that the fantastic world building and set up wasn’t wasted on constant rape.
Tae definitely loves Ilay but how much of it can be chalked up to literally trauma bonding I couldn’t tell you. That’s why I said it’s frustrating that what could’ve been fantastic and well rounded novels were wrapped up with rapist+victim=true love because of circumstances. The interactions between characters almost reminded me in a way of how authors portray bdsm/rough sex when it’s clearly rape. I was soooo thankful when Christoph finally SAID IT to Richard (it took the entire fucking novel and even then they backtracked and said he CONSENTED to the rape until then when he really really didn’t) so yeah I hate these novels I felt sick and frustrated throughout but wanted to finish to be fair to the author.
Can I ask what tae does, like I feel like he wouldn’t do anything that is deplorable? Or does his character progress but backwards?I’m reading the novels just want to know what I’m getting into before hand ╮(￣v￣)╭
depends on what you mean? do you mean as a job? or you mean his character development cuz if you mean that i think the most development is that he got more durable in general and basically became the biggest ilay apologist . apart from dislocating ilays shoulder, becoming a “terrorist” and had to play the role of a racist rapist pedophile it’s all good :)
Honestly Its not that I liked him either but I guess in retrospect he seems not as bad as others??I never really have thought his character like really thought about it. Also does his internal monologues differ a lot from the manhwa to novel?
For me in particular, I grew sick of him because of his indecisiveness and lack of backbone. He watched Christoph get raped over, acknowledged it, but- despite portraying and verbalizing how much he cared for him as a friend- chose not to offer comfort or point out to Christoph what was happening or that it wasn’t his fault even though he knew that Christoph had NO ONE to turn to. He was incredibly disingenuous with his friendship and despite knowing he had every ability to say or do something good during certain moments throughout the novels he wouldn’t for literally no reason (you’ll see there’s quite an attempt to portray him as some sort of patron saint character who falls for the devil) but then would turn around and do the DUMBEST shit without a second thought. Also, not to defend Ilay at all, but Ilay will be out here defending both of them at multiple points from attacks and all you hear is Tae in the background screeching “don’t kill them don’t kill them” like a goddamn broken record despite the fact that he can’t do shit for himself. He can’t win a single goddamn fight despite having been in the army and URDHO but will definitely be sure to get himself kidnapped or almost killed, it’s all just so hard to put into words since the novels are so long but to be succinct: he’s annoying, he’s a doormat, and he’s a fucking two faced saint wannabe.
Ok this thank you you pinpointed exactly why I never really liked him and felt more like he wasn’t that bad like his inaction is so annoying I just couldn’t put into words why he frustrated me for some reason I get what y’all mean now cx
Ok this thank you girl I couldn’t pin point why I didn’t hate him but didn’t like him either it’s his inaction like I couldn’t put it into words why he frustrated me to no end. He is the definition of the bystander effect so he’s not a good person in the end but not necessarily the worst
Yes exactly the bystander effect is what I was looking for! Like I said people can still like it if it’s their taste it just definitely isn’t mine and I needed to rant haha I appreciate yall for hearing me out ♡
Please let the MC be the one who died tragically, so the ML can be healed by them living together peacefully. Something tells me the MC would have preferred it that way as well.
You were supposed to say “I apologize if that’s how that came across and for my abhorrent behavior until this point. What I’m actually proposing is renewing a partnership in terms of work AND sexual compatibility, separate from each other, as I have come to realize I value you both in the ring and in my heart. I hope you could come to forgive me for past transgressions and return to our home in Seoul once we’ve finished the transfer process for your grandmother, whom we will of course bring with us.”
Ain’t no way he can say that when he doesn’t even realize that that’s what he wants
if only it was that easy...T-T
ew i can't see this happening too much out of character ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Yeah that’s the joke friend
Round and round the trope goes, we all fall down~
Most BL MLs don’t even need relationships, they need therapists, just like their creators haha~
I definitely believe in the twin/half brother theory since he called both of those men young master in the dream and only one ACTUALLY looked/acted like ML. And he might have agreed with MC saying that about the dream because they WERE happy together and he had to protect MC from others in that time but MC is confusing him with his brother. Poor baby no doubt experienced something tragic to trigger his obsession and it’s gotta be linked to MC being cursed to have everyone around him die to keep him isolated. Starting to think as well that the ML that was hit by the car wasn’t a reincarnation but maybe part of the bloodline which allowed him to take over the body.
The man calling himself “husband” is doing it as a title of possession. MC was most likely his subordinate and that man was a rebellious or declining noble lashing out and forcing himself on a man of lower status he took a shining to (hence the violence we see.) The ACTUAL lover is clearly going to be ML though that bond is yet to be explored until the new chapters. My tentative theory is that, since MC mentions sending the “young master” away, these two may have been family and the volatile one posed a risk to the one he cared for so he sent ML somewhere safe temporarily. ML comes back and their relationship will either eventually be discovered or ML will retaliate after seeing the state of MC. Either way MC will end up dead from trying to protect ML or from revenge of fake-ML. After reincarnation and trauma injury his ghost (?) is now obsessed with their happy ending. That’s all I’ve got, thanks for coming to my ted talk.
your ted talk is informational
Understandable and makes complete sense. Have a great day
HAHAHAHAHA THANKS FOR COMING TO MY TED TALK
Or is the artist starting to do my boys dirty T.T like I swear to god Jianyi was always being face conned as so handsome (and he was a little cutie with his XiXi) but now I feel like MO and HE TIAN are serving face constantly and our main couple are kind of giving meh :( like author not only are you going at a snails pace for the relationship progression but now you only glow up the side characters just say you hate them.
Who told u that Tian and Mo r not the main couple ? Just bcz the author didn't introduce them immediately doesn't mean they r not the main couple
That wasn’t really the point of what I was saying but I guess to clarify I consider the four of them as the main cast a la Friends, however due to the amount of story time given it was implied one was the focus compared to the other. Again, not the point I was trying to make.
Maybe because they were introduced late in the manga, that's why it's giving as if they (mo/tian) are side couple but i think like they (mo/tian) have to be main couple cus they got so much screen time Or maybe everyone like mo/tian/jiyani/xixi are all main character, (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Also, the main characters plot is not typically introduced halfway through a story. But again, if this is a Friends situation of 4 main characters and 80000 chapters then it can be an easy mistake to make when the first couple took up the first 200 predominantly.
Well if you don't know, but on every social media platform there's a crazy fandom for this mo/tian couple, and jyanni/xixi couple is good but that's it, many people don't give much attention to them and the author is only giving more screen time to mo/tian cus she knows how her fans are desperate for more chapters about them, well she's only doing what her reader's want, I know you either feeling guilty or sad cus this one couple don't have much scene but it's not like there completely vanished, it's not the author fault that's mo/tian have more crazy fandom than jyanni/xixi, if was a author and if a particular character in my manga is getting more popular within people, I too will give them more screen time than others . And you might come at me saying, 'jyanni/xixi have also there crazy fandom " But ykw that's still not enough then our motian ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I think Tian and Mo r the main couple. The story focuses on them more the reason for that maybe is their personalities.Tian is so direct and bold and it is easy to write things about him bcz of his character. He loves Mo, he acts right away. I think Xi is conservative and Jian is so chaotic and all over the place which make it difficult to imagine the progress between them. As for me I'm satisfied with Old Xian's work. I'm more into Tian and Mo's relationship since i like tsundere × aggressive plus funny dynamic. Maybe one day Old Xian will give Jian and Xi their screen time
I just commented shit, please don't mind me ╥﹏╥
O, that's what I was trying to say when I mean motian# is more famous, most of the when I go social media there has to be one reel of them but the personality thing you said is really true cus jian likes xi and act crazy and xi only likes him because on one promise they made in childhood or did he realize his feelings for him in later chapters?? Sorry but i really don't understand this couple fr there all over the place and tbh the hype for tianmo# is real cus the chemistry between them is awesome like hate to love relationship is really popular going right now(￣∇￣")
I agree with you OP. Just because HeMo is more popular it's because the author is putting them out there like no other. Only giving fluff and comedic moments for the other two. The plot is completely dismissed at this point that it's just fan service.