Please let the MC be the one who died tragically, so the ML can be healed by them living together peacefully. Something tells me the MC would have preferred it that way as well.
You were supposed to say “I apologize if that’s how that came across and for my abhorrent behavior until this point. What I’m actually proposing is renewing a partnership in terms of work AND sexual compatibility, separate from each other, as I have come to realize I value you both in the ring and in my heart. I hope you could come to forgive me for past transgressions and return to our home in Seoul once we’ve finished the transfer process for your grandmother, whom we will of course bring with us.”
Ain’t no way he can say that when he doesn’t even realize that that’s what he wants
if only it was that easy...T-T
ew i can't see this happening too much out of character ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Yeah that’s the joke friend
Round and round the trope goes, we all fall down~
Most BL MLs don’t even need relationships, they need therapists, just like their creators haha~
I definitely believe in the twin/half brother theory since he called both of those men young master in the dream and only one ACTUALLY looked/acted like ML. And he might have agreed with MC saying that about the dream because they WERE happy together and he had to protect MC from others in that time but MC is confusing him with his brother. Poor baby no doubt experienced something tragic to trigger his obsession and it’s gotta be linked to MC being cursed to have everyone around him die to keep him isolated. Starting to think as well that the ML that was hit by the car wasn’t a reincarnation but maybe part of the bloodline which allowed him to take over the body.
The man calling himself “husband” is doing it as a title of possession. MC was most likely his subordinate and that man was a rebellious or declining noble lashing out and forcing himself on a man of lower status he took a shining to (hence the violence we see.) The ACTUAL lover is clearly going to be ML though that bond is yet to be explored until the new chapters. My tentative theory is that, since MC mentions sending the “young master” away, these two may have been family and the volatile one posed a risk to the one he cared for so he sent ML somewhere safe temporarily. ML comes back and their relationship will either eventually be discovered or ML will retaliate after seeing the state of MC. Either way MC will end up dead from trying to protect ML or from revenge of fake-ML. After reincarnation and trauma injury his ghost (?) is now obsessed with their happy ending. That’s all I’ve got, thanks for coming to my ted talk.
your ted talk is informational
Understandable and makes complete sense. Have a great day
HAHAHAHAHA THANKS FOR COMING TO MY TED TALK
While I’m so gratified we are finally getting into the Duke and the brothers side story after this chapter I’m equally DEVASTATED there is NO interaction sexually between them. Like as hot as it was I didn’t need the scene with the guards I wanted to see it with HOMEBOY. Worst blueballing ever though their ~censored event~ was precious.
You’re eating Byul up because he’s cute but so far his personality has given wet sock :( come on Fargo I believe in you, you can’t create Love is an Illusion and not deliver on this
hes still a highschooler we gotta wait for him to get past his phases first pls he probably didnt even grow his mustache yet
Okay but like every other high schooler on screen is bearable don’t tell me Fargo can’t create a likable teen I would rather follow our ML around (who is ALSO the same age) but I feel you
we barely saw anyone else but byul i literally dont even know gangster guys personality nor soyis, all i know is gangster guy is quiet and soyi is smart give things a chance its only 10 chaps so far bro omg
Nephew has been spoiled his entire life okay? He's trying his best
I know that was the joke
I like the theory of there being multiple tapes per person, leading to Badas fucked memory. I also like the possibility of Yongtaek having forgotten his and creating another.
HOWEVER. We do know Doha has set himself as active obstacle between Bada and Game End which they both acknowledged. Could it be possible when he noticed Bada begin to take more of an interest in allowing a three party partnership (thereby furthering the chances of a successful game completion) he decided to move the tape to generate distrust between Bada and Yongtaek? Bada already has trust issues due to his memory and maybe Doha wants to play on that by doing a “look, I told you we can’t believe what he says, how can there be two tapes? His memory is fucked up or he’s lying to double cross us!” Situation.
I truly hope it’s actually just a clue, I want them to work together and fucking end this already omgggg.
oh that’s a REALLY good theory and it’s so doha coded omg. btw, do you remember what happened with yongtaek’s tape? i mean the first time bada accidentally played it, what did they do with it after finding about him being a conscious npc? because if doha was the one in charge of it then it’s really plausible that your theory may be true
That's a great theory, you might be right!!
I think they’re falling victim to someone messing with their tape. I feel like that’s the only way. I mean look at Seongchan, he’s basically an NPC after Doha took out his tape. Hyungshin has also reverted back to his original design after they stopped using that tape on him. From the looks of it Youngtaek only recollects everything from his second tape. I believe Youngtaek actually made it that far, but someone messed with his tape during his gameplay. He died and his memory or progress reset, which explains the memory loss prior to the game for both him and Bada. Idk tho lol
Yall need to leave Yanagi alone fr. Chapter after chapter he’s proving that he’s waiting until Rindo is available and it’s his crazy wife pulling weird shit but yall can’t stop blaming him for breathing in his direction. Did yall forget Amane started this whole relationship yall fight to protect by raping and stalking Rindo??
And yet Rindo chose him. Yeah, it's shitty but they are literally officially dating now after everything Amane put him through. He is a taken man now whether you like it or not lol. Yanagi is still annoying for pinning after a taken man.
Please, like people don’t fall for taken individuals every day whether accidentally or knowingly. It’s harmless as long as it’s just that- a crush. Going so far as to defend an accepted rapist over an infatuated friend, under the premise it’s fictional of course. How inane.
AN INFATUATED FRIEND LMAO PLEASEEEEE
this story isn’t pretending to be a basic bitch good moral kind of story, so you’re correct in what you say about amane, but calling yanagi an “infatuated friend” is crazy when he’s just as troubled as the rest of the characters like are we just forgetting the times that rindo gets wildly uncomfy bc of yanagi??
recognizing that yanagi’s wife is the problem trigger in this arc while still thinking that yanagi’s annoying are things that can coexist.
i think it’s insane that people are trying to water down this amazing story and the characters.
I definitely am not trying to water them down because they are both incredibly mentally disordered, I just couldn’t find a better term for it. You can’t say he isn’t a friend because that’s exactly what Rindo is treating him as. They are literally on vacation as a FRIEND group. He’s clearly comfortable enough to be alone at certain points with him, not discounting certain times he’s also UNCOMFORTABLE, but I feel like we all also have people in our lives that we wax and wane like that with. Rindos acceptance of both of them changes nothing that either did, but Yanagi didn’t rape anyone and technically didn’t even hurt Rindo so. Man just had a crush, mental illness and serious boundary issues.
yes girl my problem isn’t with calling him a friend cause he def is. rindo himself wants to be friends with him despite not being fully comfortable with him, my point was about the “infatuated” term bc yanagi’s more obsessed/crazy than he is infatuated.
i still don’t think he’s any better than amane, and omg i just reread it like rn and yup yanagi’s def just as insane: stalked rindo (bugged his house), tased and kidnapped him, sexually assaulted him, and was about to tattoo him against rindo’s will, and also technically has been cheating on his wife (yes ik it’s most likely an arranged marriage or sth but still marriage)
rindo’s equally as crazy for forgiving any of the ppl he’s been with tbh but that’s why we love all of them
Yes yes lovely you are making all the points, I feel like we are agreeing but not understanding that because of written versus verbal communication barriers~ but I do enjoy this story and these characters despite their flaws and I appreciate your discourse sm :)
Low-key I just wanna see Yanagi leave Rindo be, like waiting till he’s available is icky and sad, what’s more special than self love imo. I need him to end it with his wife (honestly don’t remember much about this, why hasn’t he left her, etc), and find a guy that’ll love him back.
It’s sad to be crushing on a taken person. It’s fine to have a crush, as long as you don’t act on it.
Ngl I have made some thirsty ass noncanon plots about Yanagi and another new guy. . I don’t even care for the main couple anymore, I just want to see his side stories if possible. I’m hoping?
I see Byul is a cutie but just as annoying/ dense in personality as his mom was T^T sure hope it gets better the more the plot develops because my god Love is an Illusion was a tough read without the development arcs.
His mon had a rough upbringing as an excuse. Byul being an airhead is... a spectacular sight itself.
I agree, which is why the development arcs were so well executed and satisfying. Disappointed that the balanced parenting didn’t flesh out a well written baby Byul for us~ but I have faith because I love this author and artist
After reading all the novels can I just say I fucking HATE all the characters except Christoph and Kyle. Do they all have moments where you go, “oh wow how romantic was that line” or “how badass was that action”? Sure. (Except for Richard he can die in an Iron Maiden.) But are those few micro seconds worth the rest of their actions and overall arcs? Absolutely fucking not I’m so sick of them. I was ESPECIALLY appalled during Diaphonic Symphonia at Richard and Tae (separately). You can disagree with me as is your taste and opinion and I did choose to read and finish these to give them the benefit of the full work but. All of these are atrocious in character building, I’m horrified at the gratuitous rape fetish and inability to create any type of satisfying resolution beyond rapist+victim=true love. That’s all, I had to get it off my chest after sitting through all those novels.
concerning ilay and tay..i just wanna ask if you read suite too? and suite: complete works?..because their story isn’t over from just DS..also because i was also frustrated with every thing until i read suite because you really get to understand ilay as a person even if you don’t like his character. in my opinion ilay really made me love him more in the “suite” part of passion. i personally hate richard with every fiber of my being and do not approve whatever is going on btwn him and christoph because he fucking broke that guy like as if his shitty mother wasn’t bad enough and he had imposter syndrome issues since childhood richard made his life hell on earth. Richard is a disgusting piece of shit and i wish the worst for him. i thought christoph would annoy me but he really grew on me. i really wanted him to find himself and cut all ties with dresden..
YES YES YES YES
it's being a long time since I read it and I don't remember the end exactly (I vaguely remember the suite) but I remember the felling that tae is still trapped, especially after he is raped several times after being caught by ilay.
I remember talking with my sister about it that I had so much faith in the novel but it end up a huge disappointment.
tay said he was willing to take n the burden and danger that comes with being with ilay and ilay himself wanst okay with that that’s why okay literally swore that if tay dies he would too and rae said that without ilay his life would be miserable and he would choose him very single time despite what comes with it. He chose to leave xinlu in hong kong to stay with ilay because he wanted to..he knew that ilay would be mad and angry but he still went back to him. pls don’t underestimate tay resolve to wanting to stay with ilay..they are literally bound by life and death :/ tay is very aware with the weight of ilay love towards him but still accepts it no matter how painful it is..suite literally showed them talking abt this..they are not your everyday couple and you absolutely need to under how they both function mentally to properly enjoy the process. it’s not for everyone and that’s okay lol
Ooh now I remember why I was so pissed off now haha it was bc ilay's reaction, ignoring tay (I think he gags him?) and raping him until tay is able to speak up. I also got angry bc we didn't get a full smut that wasn't rape, even that last smut is just a blowjob. I also didn't like that the resolution about the organization, everything was rushed.
I don't mind toxic couples, 2HA is one of my fav novels ever, even if Moran is WAY worse than Ilay, my problem was with the resolution about the main couple and the whole plot itself. (I'm not trying to fight, I really just remember why I didn't like the ending now )
i see what you are getting at it’s all good i really enjoyed and loved the novel and all it’s part so i tend to get over- defensive
Yes, when I said I read all the novels I was serious. Ilay at parts could become a sympathetic character which I think I alluded to but my main point was that the actions taken in the relationships couldn’t outweigh the little actions/one liners here and there for me. Ilay didn’t change as a person, he only changed towards Tae in the fact that he fell in love (if you would generously call it that and not obsession/possession.) Tae is a whole different can of worms I want to throw in a microwave and explode, I wish I never had to be inside his head for the novels I fucking hated his experiences and thought process. Not only do I stand by him not adding value to any situation but he even detracts value and makes everything worse. But I digress, I read all the novels and wish that the fantastic world building and set up wasn’t wasted on constant rape.
Tae definitely loves Ilay but how much of it can be chalked up to literally trauma bonding I couldn’t tell you. That’s why I said it’s frustrating that what could’ve been fantastic and well rounded novels were wrapped up with rapist+victim=true love because of circumstances. The interactions between characters almost reminded me in a way of how authors portray bdsm/rough sex when it’s clearly rape. I was soooo thankful when Christoph finally SAID IT to Richard (it took the entire fucking novel and even then they backtracked and said he CONSENTED to the rape until then when he really really didn’t) so yeah I hate these novels I felt sick and frustrated throughout but wanted to finish to be fair to the author.
Can I ask what tae does, like I feel like he wouldn’t do anything that is deplorable? Or does his character progress but backwards?I’m reading the novels just want to know what I’m getting into before hand ╮(￣v￣)╭
depends on what you mean? do you mean as a job? or you mean his character development cuz if you mean that i think the most development is that he got more durable in general and basically became the biggest ilay apologist . apart from dislocating ilays shoulder, becoming a “terrorist” and had to play the role of a racist rapist pedophile it’s all good :)
Honestly Its not that I liked him either but I guess in retrospect he seems not as bad as others??I never really have thought his character like really thought about it. Also does his internal monologues differ a lot from the manhwa to novel?
For me in particular, I grew sick of him because of his indecisiveness and lack of backbone. He watched Christoph get raped over, acknowledged it, but- despite portraying and verbalizing how much he cared for him as a friend- chose not to offer comfort or point out to Christoph what was happening or that it wasn’t his fault even though he knew that Christoph had NO ONE to turn to. He was incredibly disingenuous with his friendship and despite knowing he had every ability to say or do something good during certain moments throughout the novels he wouldn’t for literally no reason (you’ll see there’s quite an attempt to portray him as some sort of patron saint character who falls for the devil) but then would turn around and do the DUMBEST shit without a second thought. Also, not to defend Ilay at all, but Ilay will be out here defending both of them at multiple points from attacks and all you hear is Tae in the background screeching “don’t kill them don’t kill them” like a goddamn broken record despite the fact that he can’t do shit for himself. He can’t win a single goddamn fight despite having been in the army and URDHO but will definitely be sure to get himself kidnapped or almost killed, it’s all just so hard to put into words since the novels are so long but to be succinct: he’s annoying, he’s a doormat, and he’s a fucking two faced saint wannabe.
Ok this thank you you pinpointed exactly why I never really liked him and felt more like he wasn’t that bad like his inaction is so annoying I just couldn’t put into words why he frustrated me for some reason I get what y’all mean now cx
Ok this thank you girl I couldn’t pin point why I didn’t hate him but didn’t like him either it’s his inaction like I couldn’t put it into words why he frustrated me to no end. He is the definition of the bystander effect so he’s not a good person in the end but not necessarily the worst
Yes exactly the bystander effect is what I was looking for! Like I said people can still like it if it’s their taste it just definitely isn’t mine and I needed to rant haha I appreciate yall for hearing me out ♡