Ishuca June 20, 2021 12:45 am

The author does not want to elaborate on hell relationship with hella mother?? So just because heil was promiscuous in past he conceived a baby out of nowhere and he doesn't even REMEMBER the mother???? IT'S KINDA pointless to add a daughter out of nowhere. It only makes it harder for river to ralate to how promiscuous heil was before meeting him

Ishuca June 20, 2021 12:42 am

Why does she talks as if the manhwa is completed already

    Bitchgurl June 20, 2021 6:00 am

    oh that i can answer, she has said multiple times that there is no plans to continue this manga, all though in the future they might continue the decision is not made!

    Ishuca June 20, 2021 7:04 am
    oh that i can answer, she has said multiple times that there is no plans to continue this manga, all though in the future they might continue the decision is not made! Bitchgurl

    But she said there will be more about forest and kahol and kaveri

    Sara June 21, 2021 11:55 pm
    oh that i can answer, she has said multiple times that there is no plans to continue this manga, all though in the future they might continue the decision is not made! Bitchgurl

    She said that about the novel. And also this is the last season, so it has a vibe of ending. This season is the Lari face off.

    Ishuca June 22, 2021 1:22 am
    She said that about the novel. And also this is the last season, so it has a vibe of ending. This season is the Lari face off. Sara

    What a bad choice she made ... i couldn't care less about kahol but poor kaveri ....his fate will never be clear to this manhwa readers

    Sara June 22, 2021 1:07 pm
    What a bad choice she made ... i couldn't care less about kahol but poor kaveri ....his fate will never be clear to this manhwa readers Ishuca

    Well we still don't know their fate and a lot could change this season

Ishuca June 18, 2021 10:52 pm

Why there is a war in the comments. The facts are clear. Minhuyk is the only f***king rapist in the manhwa.
Sooyoung is sane and gives consent to taesung for sex .taesung is not raping him they just like it rough
Taesung even stopped during his climax because sooyoung said no for real one time though sooyoung regretted that taesung stopped.
Sooyoung is the only person who talks to taesung as if he's his equal

The only problem in their relationship is that taesung refuses to talk about his past to sooyoung.

    Smirk June 19, 2021 12:25 am

    Ch 48 sy is lying unconscious and ts sticks his finger in his ass to push his own cum inside. Would you call that consensual?

    Aria June 19, 2021 5:23 am
    Ch 48 sy is lying unconscious and ts sticks his finger in his ass to push his own cum inside. Would you call that consensual? Smirk

    Exactlyyyy

    YaoiIsLife June 19, 2021 5:24 am
    Ch 48 sy is lying unconscious and ts sticks his finger in his ass to push his own cum inside. Would you call that consensual? Smirk

    I wouldn't call it rape either.

    They literally just had sex a few minutes ago. They're literally in a relationship together. Taesung wasn't just some random guy that popped out of nowhere and then suddenly stuck his fingers into some random dude lol.

    Plus when he stuck his fingers in, Sooyung kinda woke up which is why Taesung whispered in his ears. It's pretty clear that Sooyung knew who that was touching his ass.

    It's kinky afterplay. Kinky and rough, that's like their thing, I thought that was obvious enough

    Calling it rape is just too much is what I'm trying to say. You seriously aren't lumping this action to all the much more rapey shit that Minhyuk did.

    Bummer June 19, 2021 5:41 am
    I wouldn't call it rape either.They literally just had sex a few minutes ago. They're literally in a relationship together. Taesung wasn't just some random guy that popped out of nowhere and then suddenly stuck... YaoiIsLife

    If it’s not consensual, it’s rape/sexual assault. You cannot give consent if you are unconscious. Knowing the person that is raping/sexually assaulting you doesn’t make it any less rape or sexual assault. And no, you can’t just call it a kink and be on your way every time a character does something wrong. Call it what it is.

    Just because you like a character doesn’t mean you can act like they do no wrong. What he did was sexual assault. Period.

    Colorless_skeleton69 June 19, 2021 5:51 am

    Didn't in chapter 3 taesung clearly was grouping him without his consent I mean it not rape but still bad he literally said no

    Ishuca June 19, 2021 5:56 am
    Ch 48 sy is lying unconscious and ts sticks his finger in his ass to push his own cum inside. Would you call that consensual? Smirk

    Yes yes i would call it consensual because sooyoung consented to far more awkward things.
    Jesus ....At that point they are practically a couple , though they haven't fleshed out their confession

    Ishuca June 19, 2021 5:57 am
    If it’s not consensual, it’s rape/sexual assault. You cannot give consent if you are unconscious. Knowing the person that is raping/sexually assaulting you doesn’t make it any less rape or sexual assault.... Bummer

    If your boyfriend whom you have feelings for touch your breast when you are sleeping is he assaulting you?

    Colorless_skeleton69 June 19, 2021 5:58 am
    Yes yes i would call it consensual because sooyoung consented to far more awkward things.Jesus ....At that point they are practically a couple , though they haven't fleshed out their confession Ishuca

    Chapter 3 he barely knew the beside him knocking his shit out but ok ┐(´ー`)┌

    Ishuca June 19, 2021 6:08 am
    Chapter 3 he barely knew the beside him knocking his shit out but ok ┐(´ー`)┌ Colorless_skeleton69

    In chapter 3 taesung didn't even know sooyoung. And that harsh fight between them is necessary for character attributes: taesung a yakuza . Sooyoung a loveless fighter who survived his abusive father
    What does that have to do with rape or sexual assault

    Smirk June 19, 2021 6:28 am
    Yes yes i would call it consensual because sooyoung consented to far more awkward things.Jesus ....At that point they are practically a couple , though they haven't fleshed out their confession Ishuca

    Just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean you give ongoing consent. It doesn't matter what happened before, at that time he was unconscious. You call it whatever you wanna call it, technically speaking it is rape.

    Colorless_skeleton69 June 19, 2021 6:36 am
    In chapter 3 taesung didn't even know sooyoung. And that harsh fight between them is necessary for character attributes: taesung a yakuza . Sooyoung a loveless fighter who survived his abusive fatherWhat does... Ishuca

    I'm referring to the fact he literally touch his dick and he was literally telling him to stop that all

    YaoiIsLife June 19, 2021 7:26 am
    In chapter 3 taesung didn't even know sooyoung. And that harsh fight between them is necessary for character attributes: taesung a yakuza . Sooyoung a loveless fighter who survived his abusive fatherWhat does... Ishuca

    Lol, they're going as far back as Chapter 3. Their relationship at that point was nonexistent. Sooyung to Taesung was nothing more than just a debtor and a loan shark. In case they forgot, Taesung at that point was a gangster boss who have probably killed or beaten up anyone that wasn't able to pay their debts, people like Sooyung.

    YaoiIsLife June 19, 2021 7:31 am
    In chapter 3 taesung didn't even know sooyoung. And that harsh fight between them is necessary for character attributes: taesung a yakuza . Sooyoung a loveless fighter who survived his abusive fatherWhat does... Ishuca

    Why are they even trying to bring up what Taesung at that point? Literally they barely knew each other and Taesung was literally already a ruthless gangster boss there. He could've even killed Sooyung at that point because Sooyung meant nothing to Taesung at that point. Like bruh these poeple are so weird XD

    Smirk June 19, 2021 1:30 pm
    If it’s not consensual, it’s rape/sexual assault. You cannot give consent if you are unconscious. Knowing the person that is raping/sexually assaulting you doesn’t make it any less rape or sexual assault.... Bummer

    Sometimes I wonder if Taeseung's defenders can't really recognize abuse or they just pretend not to.

    YaoiIsLife June 19, 2021 4:38 pm
    Sometimes I wonder if Taeseung's defenders can't really recognize abuse or they just pretend not to. Smirk

    That's rich coming from someone who persistently calls what Taesung did as rape. I bet all those poeple who sucks their sleeping boyfriend's dick or those who touch their sleeping partner's genitals or those who fondle their sleeping girlfriend's boobs are just rapists and molesters.

    Ishuca June 20, 2021 7:08 am
    Why are they even trying to bring up what Taesung at that point? Literally they barely knew each other and Taesung was literally already a ruthless gangster boss there. He could've even killed Sooyung at that p... YaoiIsLife

    Yeah

    Ishuca June 20, 2021 7:11 am
    Sometimes I wonder if Taeseung's defenders can't really recognize abuse or they just pretend not to. Smirk

    I have been sexually assaulted throughout my life since I'm a transgender person living in a third world country in which girly boys like me get assaulted on daily basis.
    So i know what rape or harassment is.
    Taesung and sooyoung are in a consensual relationship...taesung is not an ANGEL but I prefer him to that rapist minhyuk

    Smirk June 20, 2021 3:19 pm
    I have been sexually assaulted throughout my life since I'm a transgender person living in a third world country in which girly boys like me get assaulted on daily basis.So i know what rape or harassment is. Ta... Ishuca

    I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. This is a serious issue for a lot of us.
    But we have to understand that there are things that are considered rape/sexual assault. That's not a matter of opinion, that's a fact. Any sexual activity with an unconscious person is considered sexual assault. In this case since there was penetration it is considered rape. It doesn't matter if the person is your spouse, it doesn't matter if the person consented to other things in the past. That's just the way it is. Just because some people may like to get off on touching a drunk/asleep/passed out person it doesn't mean that it's ok.
    That being said, Taeseung is a gangster, he kills people, sexual assault means nothing to him, it shouldn't be surprising to anyone at this point.

    saher26 June 21, 2021 5:28 am
    If your boyfriend whom you have feelings for touch your breast when you are sleeping is he assaulting you? Ishuca

    Yes, since there is no consent. Just because he's my boyfriend doesn't mean he automatically gets a free pass to grope me

    Ishuca June 21, 2021 7:10 am
    I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. This is a serious issue for a lot of us. But we have to understand that there are things that are considered rape/sexual assault. That's not a matter of opinion, th... Smirk

    First of all I think we should notice how sooyoung perceives the situation, does he think he was assaulted? No. And sooyoung is not an unreliable character

    Taesung maybe a tough ruthless yakuza but the point of the story is he is slowly changing because of his feelings for sooyoung. Sooyoung is his soft spot why do you treat it as if taesung wouldn't mind assaulting sooyoung in his sleep. You have no evidence . I do .
    In ch 23 or 24 taesung said that he is not into satisfying himself with an unconscious person ( referring to the fact that sooyoung passes out out of too much orgasms) If sexual assault means nothing to tae then why in ttis specific sex scene ch 23 taesung stopped himself right before his climax when he was afraid thay sooyoung might pass out from orgasms?
    I call taesung possessive, insecure, a person who is unable to have healthy communication in relationship
    But I don't call jim a rapist because there's no EVIDENCE

    Smirk June 22, 2021 5:03 am
    First of all I think we should notice how sooyoung perceives the situation, does he think he was assaulted? No. And sooyoung is not an unreliable characterTaesung maybe a tough ruthless yakuza but the point of... Ishuca

    Let's apply your logic to sooyoung's situation with Minhyuk to compare. How did Sooyoung perceive it? Did he think he was assaulted? No. Then according to your logic Minhyuk Is not a rapist? He doesn't know he was assaulted in his sleep by both of them, but we do.
    I checked Ch 23/24 nothing you described happened there, there's no stopping before climax, no reference to sy passing out, nothing.
    Showing me a chapter where there's consent is not evidence that he's not a rapist. My evidence is chapter 48.
    Honey let's agree to disagree, my patience only goes so far.

    Smirk June 22, 2021 5:04 am
    Yes, since there is no consent. Just because he's my boyfriend doesn't mean he automatically gets a free pass to grope me saher26

    Yes to self-respect queen!

Ishuca June 18, 2021 1:34 pm

This is probably the third time I have asked this but seriously it's because everytime i read that section of the manhwa I get more confused. I'm talking about ch39 where MCQUEEN ASKED Ed TO ACCEPT THAT HE WILL CONTINUE PORN EVEN IF IT HURT ED. And ed had no choice but acceptance he said my wounds will heal even if you hurt me.....(is he a freaking masochist????? Where is his self esteem? ) McQueen might have meant he will continue directing porn but since he said he knows it will hurt ed he might have meant continue acting porn....why did he suddenly brought something like this to ed when he was only directing porn recently...in the novel they both stop porno after becoming official so why the author ruined this in the manhwa.....
And we never see McQueen cheating on ed by acting porn afterwards so why he said such a disrespectful thing to Ed??? Or did he cheat on ed by acting porn and it was just not shown in the manhwa????(though in novel it was not like that)

    kimczysoo June 20, 2021 4:52 pm

    Hi! Can you tell me where can I read the novel? I've been searching and I mostly found chapter 1 to 3 only.

Ishuca June 17, 2021 4:30 am

Spoiler alert ......



Seeing seme with another guy( escort guy) and seeing uke with another guy(chisoo) while knowing these people will not be the ending game hurts.......

Ishuca June 17, 2021 4:28 am

How can kanjin be with that mafia guy chisoo and be indifferent to chisoo's deeds??? Does he not care that his boyfriend beat people, do illegal stuff, do drug dealings or other kinds of shits???? How can he be morally oblivious? Is he in the relationship only for self gratification??????

    Ginnie June 18, 2021 9:48 am

    Kanjin doesn't exactly know everything that his boyfriend does. He knows that he's work for the Mafia but not exactly everything he's doing

Ishuca June 15, 2021 5:49 am

Can someone tell me which chapter Wolfgang takes a bath

    STAN KING'S MAKER!! June 18, 2021 2:09 am

    S3 ch 25.. not here tho

    Ishuca June 18, 2021 1:36 pm

    Thanks. So in the mature version there's no bath time...sad

    STAN KING'S MAKER!! June 18, 2021 5:25 pm
    Thanks. So in the mature version there's no bath time...sad Ishuca

    Oh.. ch 34 I guess..

    I thought u're talking about recent ch where wg flirting with Shin at Bathtub lol

Ishuca June 11, 2021 10:35 pm

Okay I'm not sure whether i should read this manhwa. Help me out by clarifying things
Is the uke always gonna be this horny I'm sure he won't be a loyal uke.
What's up with that annoying threesome...if it's not an equal loving polyamorous relationship then threesomes always ruin the couple romance

I hate to read cheating in manhwas so I'm afraid of this manhwas because the threesome and the sluty uke suggests that this will contain cheating

    AIL June 12, 2021 3:50 am

    Same with me,thou..
    It kinda weird to see him do it with another guy while his seme standing in front of them..
    I almost gonna drop this when i read that ch..

    BlubbDia June 12, 2021 4:56 am

    It does happen but I still recommend reading it, because they still develop a deeper relationship further into the story! There is no actual cheating happening since they weren't dating in the first place (heck, they're strangers!) and I myself really dont enjoy this kind of stuff but surprisingly it was rather realistic.

    AIL June 12, 2021 7:41 am
    It does happen but I still recommend reading it, because they still develop a deeper relationship further into the story! There is no actual cheating happening since they weren't dating in the first place (heck... BlubbDia

    Hope that something like this won't happen again..

    BlubbDia June 12, 2021 8:45 am
    Hope that something like this won't happen again.. AIL

    I hope so too, fingers crossed

    Bunny June 12, 2021 12:30 pm
    Same with me,thou..It kinda weird to see him do it with another guy while his seme standing in front of them.. I almost gonna drop this when i read that ch.. AIL

    Same it made me a little sad

Ishuca June 7, 2021 3:08 am

I don't understand why the seme says he f*cked me and some people say he's the one who f*cked.....it was shown that the black haired guy is uke he was the bottom

    Alex June 7, 2021 9:02 pm

    I fucking know right I literally thought the black haired was top

    Claire Louise <3 June 10, 2021 3:05 am

    That’s cause in English fucked doesn’t necessarily mean that the person was the one to take the d. Most people use it to refer to them being on the receiving end that is why many tend to think of that way when someone says “they fucked me”. But it can be used for both cases, when u fuck and when ur getting fucked. Hope this helps.

    Ishuca June 13, 2021 2:43 am
    That’s cause in English fucked doesn’t necessarily mean that the person was the one to take the d. Most people use it to refer to them being on the receiving end that is why many tend to think of that way w... Claire Louise <3

    Oh really . In my country f**k is always associated with the top

Ishuca June 3, 2021 11:56 pm

This manhwa drawing art is amazing .
Who is the hot guy with long black hair he was in same gang as moonhuyk
Does he have his own uke? Or is he married with kids?!!!!

    Erys June 4, 2021 6:49 am

    Yes you can see it in the thing he’s married with a daughter

    happyggm June 4, 2021 6:50 pm

    Fuck I wanted him to die b/c he betrayed his master & the other dude. Not only that I think he was responsible for the main seme getting sold to that illegal under ground boxing. Plus he wouldn’t have lost his pinky b/c he did it to get the ashes of the guy they killed. But then I saw his daughter & was like fuck you. But then I was like it’s common in this line of work, getting killed & betrayed. So I still want the main character to get his revenge against him & 2 colored eye dude

    Marianna June 7, 2021 3:01 am
    Fuck I wanted him to die b/c he betrayed his master & the other dude. Not only that I think he was responsible for the main seme getting sold to that illegal under ground boxing. Plus he wouldn’t have los... happyggm

    If Munhyeok didn't go in that club he would be dead

    Ishuca June 7, 2021 3:12 am
    Yes you can see it in the thing he’s married with a daughter Erys

    Ah he's married...so he's straight? Sad i wish he would become a side couple with another uke

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