Bear October 28, 2023 10:40 am

the urge to upload this myself just to see the comments section

    Min October 28, 2023 11:15 am

    you have the translation????

    Bear October 28, 2023 11:28 am
    you have the translation???? Min

    yeah i read legally, both english and korean lol

Bear October 25, 2023 10:10 am

so basically all 4 leads are rapists in one way or the other, but dohyeok is the only one getting all the blame? make it make sense lol

    Heu77 October 25, 2023 10:31 am

    It’s cause he’s a redhead. And people have soft spot for MC, they try to ignore what he did.

    Bear October 25, 2023 10:49 am
    It’s cause he’s a redhead. And people have soft spot for MC, they try to ignore what he did. Heu77

    what his hair gotta do with anything

    Heu77 October 25, 2023 10:54 am
    what his hair gotta do with anything Bear

    I wasn’t being serious

    Bear October 25, 2023 10:56 am
    I wasn’t being serious Heu77

    lol ok but fr the hate towards dohyeok feels unjustified because other characters are toxic too

    Heu77 October 25, 2023 11:19 am
    lol ok but fr the hate towards dohyeok feels unjustified because other characters are toxic too Bear

    Can you see my emoji on your screen? I just refreshed the page and I don’t see the emoji I put with my reply to yours “I wasn’t being serious (insert laughing face”.

    And yes the hate towards Dohyeok alone is unjustified and not understandable. MC shouldn’t get a pass cause they’re MC and I remember Jiwoon being hated a lot.

    chathafeel October 25, 2023 12:43 pm

    ikr siwoo literally forced drugs and assualted dohyeok that first night and no one points out what he did as wrong the second time they had sex can be considered as rape too cause dohyeok never consented and kept saying no :( he always hits him too dude's a whole ass abuser people should stop treating him like some gentlemen and also stop justifying everything that's happening to dohyeok as karma

    Heu77 October 25, 2023 2:06 pm
    ikr siwoo literally forced drugs and assualted dohyeok that first night and no one points out what he did as wrong the second time they had sex can be considered as rape too cause dohyeok never consented and k... chathafeel

    People really said Dohyeok deserved the rape cause he apparently raped Suha when that never happened

    Bear October 25, 2023 2:11 pm
    Can you see my emoji on your screen? I just refreshed the page and I don’t see the emoji I put with my reply to yours “I wasn’t being serious (insert laughing face”.And yes the hate towards Dohyeok alon... Heu77

    no i can't see the emoji, ig mangago doesn't support all types of emojis

    Bear October 25, 2023 2:12 pm
    People really said Dohyeok deserved the rape cause he apparently raped Suha when that never happened Heu77

    in fact, DH is the only one out of the 4 leads who never used physical force, it was always blackmailing or threatening people to give consent. also, he himself says that he doesn't like violence.

    Heu77 October 25, 2023 5:28 pm
    in fact, DH is the only one out of the 4 leads who never used physical force, it was always blackmailing or threatening people to give consent. also, he himself says that he doesn't like violence. Bear

    Huh? I thought he did use physical force where he entered Suha and Jiwoon’s apartment and crashed something. Idk. Someone has to read through all those chapters to confirm cause not me haha

    Bear October 25, 2023 6:23 pm
    Huh? I thought he did use physical force where he entered Suha and Jiwoon’s apartment and crashed something. Idk. Someone has to read through all those chapters to confirm cause not me haha Heu77

    no i mean physical force involving sexual encounters. that one time where he did beat up suha was after suha threw boiling water at him as a threat, which can be seen as attempted murder too lol.

    Min October 25, 2023 6:46 pm

    i think what's happening is whenever the victim's feelings in the aftermath of the dubcon/rape is shown in detail, people seem to sympathize with them (rightfully so) and despise the rapist (again! rightfully so!)
    but if the rape is not treated as rape, and the victim themselves does not seem to have any negative feelings afterwards then it's deemed a-okay.
    doheyok doing dubcon stuff to suha, suha's mental breakdown shown in the aftermath? doheyok is a rapist and suha is a victim.
    Doheyok's POS friends raping dohyeok, dohyeok's trauma shown in the aftermath? those guys are rapists and dohyeok is a victim.
    in every other case of rape/SA (suha raping jiwoon, siwoo raping dohyeok), the victim isn't shown having any sexual trauma/negative reaction afterwards to said rape, so those are swept under the rug and not thought of as a big deal.
    ftr this is not me defending this btw, i am just sharing what i have noticed in terms of people's reactions.

    Heu77 October 25, 2023 8:38 pm
    i think what's happening is whenever the victim's feelings in the aftermath of the dubcon/rape is shown in detail, people seem to sympathize with them (rightfully so) and despise the rapist (again! rightfully s... Min

    People said he never forcefully screwed Suha so I don’t think he’s a rapist. But he’s still bad guy
    Most of the time Suha was with Dohyeok he did it willingly but that was to please Dohyeok because I think Suha liked Dohyeok and wanted to be with him. Dohyeok was an ass and still is, waiting for redemption arc and apology arc

    Heu77 October 25, 2023 8:48 pm
    i think what's happening is whenever the victim's feelings in the aftermath of the dubcon/rape is shown in detail, people seem to sympathize with them (rightfully so) and despise the rapist (again! rightfully s... Min

    And not exactly true, a lot of victims do exhibit physical trauma and mental from being raped, it’s only normal, and some will be mentally numb and don’t express as much but we can see Suha is clearly happy and functioning fine, having sex with Jiwoon fine without exhibiting physical trauma stress. Clearly Dohyeok has had it more than Suha but I’m not saying Suha hasn’t been scared. I don’t remember a lot so don’t rely on my words haha TT

    Min October 26, 2023 2:44 am
    And not exactly true, a lot of victims do exhibit physical trauma and mental from being raped, it’s only normal, and some will be mentally numb and don’t express as much but we can see Suha is clearly happy... Heu77

    oh i know that. i was going off on how the manhwa portrays SA/dubcon/rape differently. suha is not shown having any trauma from jiwoon because he is the ML lol, he's not gonna be replaced by anyone. on the other hand, dohyeok *is* the antagonist in the main story so suha is gonna be shown having trauma from his experience with dohyeok (w/ doheok being replaced by jiwoon)
    again, like i said, this isn't my own opinion, i'm saying what i think is happening in the manhwa and why people tend to react differently to similar situations of rape.
    unfortunately for dohyeok, even though suha and jiwoon have dubconned each other they're never gonna get nearly enough flack bc they're the male leads and he *was* the antagonist in the main story. if this side story didn't exist, we wouldn't have thought to empathize with the character dohyeok.

    Min October 26, 2023 2:50 am
    People said he never forcefully screwed Suha so I don’t think he’s a rapist. But he’s still bad guyMost of the time Suha was with Dohyeok he did it willingly but that was to please Dohyeok because I think... Heu77

    i personally don't believe he raped suha so to speak but there was a lot of dub con. plus he gaslit suha as well. not to mention, he apparently hit suha as well when they were together? eugh. all these things do leave a bad taste in my mouth.
    i don't want to get into the technicalities of whether it was really rape or not. this is fictional, so i really just hope dohyeok and siwoo both get therapy and move (the fuck away from suha-jiwoon) to live out the rest of their lives in marital bliss. it's not gonna happen, but i can dream :')

    Bear October 26, 2023 3:03 am
    i personally don't believe he raped suha so to speak but there was a lot of dub con. plus he gaslit suha as well. not to mention, he apparently hit suha as well when they were together? eugh. all these things d... Min

    i haven't found any chapters where he hit suha and no one mentioned any chapters showing this btw. not sure why this came up, but from what i remember the only time dohyeok hit suha was AFTER suha threw boiling water at him, which took place in the present, 10 years after their breakup. also, dohyeok has repeatedly said he doesn't like violence, that time he blackmailed suha with yoon hui's pic, and grey hair was hitting suha, i think dohyeok asked him twice not to hit him. although he uses violence with siwoo, siwoo is more violent with him, whether it's physical abuse or rough sex. sihyeok are pretty balanced in this aspect.

    Min October 26, 2023 3:06 am
    i haven't found any chapters where he hit suha and no one mentioned any chapters showing this btw. not sure why this came up, but from what i remember the only time dohyeok hit suha was AFTER suha threw boiling... Bear

    suha threw WHAT at dohyeok now
    god these guys are such a mess. group therapy sounds really nice right about now

    Bear October 26, 2023 3:23 am
    suha threw WHAT at dohyeok now god these guys are such a mess. group therapy sounds really nice right about now Min

    yeah. basically jiwoon was holding suha captive at his place (which suha didn't think was a big deal for some reason) and dohyeok trespassed and asked suha to get back with him. he was annoying suha a lot so suha boiled some water and threw it at dohyeok, it didn't get to him and dohyeok got mad (obviously) and suha said "get out, i won't miss next time" after whih dohyeok beat him up.

    Heu77 October 26, 2023 5:14 am
    suha threw WHAT at dohyeok now god these guys are such a mess. group therapy sounds really nice right about now Min

    Being thrown boiling water, Dohyeok is lucky his pretty face didn’t get ruined

    Bear October 26, 2023 5:52 am
    Being thrown boiling water, Dohyeok is lucky his pretty face didn’t get ruined Heu77

    fr i was so relieved he didn't get hurt, wouldn't want that pretty face being ruined

    Min October 26, 2023 7:28 am
    fr i was so relieved he didn't get hurt, wouldn't want that pretty face being ruined Bear

    y'all down bad for him lmao

    Heu77 October 26, 2023 7:58 am
    y'all down bad for him lmao Min

    I wish I was Siwoo.

    chathafeel October 26, 2023 8:10 am
    I wish I was Siwoo. Heu77

    i would kill to be him he’s so ungrateful

    Bear October 26, 2023 8:18 am
    y'all down bad for him lmao Min

    if siwoo wasn't there i would've hit cuz he is bi and i have a chance (i am delusional and barely 2 decades old)

Bear October 14, 2023 4:42 pm

can anyone tell me who the ML is? and is it worth reading?

    soursatang October 14, 2023 11:48 pm

    Li Shao is the ML, they drag the story so much and it just got a super rushed ending
    Read only if you have time.

Bear October 14, 2023 3:24 pm

i am seeing so many comments where people are calling him siwoon, but his name is siwoo??

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