are people really gonna frame this as if his concerns aren't valid.
is a healthy relationship, dismissing all the problems and just having sex 24/7?
"communicate you two" they just did. even in irl you talk, but don't always engage a conversation immediately after having some concerns. there's a phase you THINK about it. irl you don't even report everything you think or find about each other and there's also moments of hesitation. im willing to bet these two communicate about their feelings more than 80% of the readers here ever do with their friends, family, or lover.
hachi leaf speaking facts, caught in 4k, love to see it
nah skill issue i tell my partner if something is bothering me and he does too i get not being perfect but if he just realized talking about it helped a lot then started this again thats just bad writing and going in circles
they literally are always talking about it. reread it again. it's just that there's time they suspect something is wrong and then work on telling it and then they communicate. plus not everyone operates like you. it's like saying "get fucked" to people who has anxiety or people having a hard time expressing themselves. mc clearly is afraid a lot of times but he still finds himself telling his partner. and if you tell your partner everything then good for you, that just means you aren't the 80% im talking about. but that doesn't mean you can just up and say this couple has the most horrible communication ever just because they don't immediately say whatever comes to mind.
plus making a character that's insecure immediately be confident and proactive after one instance is bad writing lmao it's like you're writing a character's actions for the sake of it and not because that character will likely do this one thing. another is that we don't even know what will happen next yet you're already assuming they won't talk about this problem in the next chapter. yall always blame any inconvenience to bad writing lol
its not that deep bro its really not this is a bl about a wold boy who gets horny all the time and this all is just angst from the author i don't know why you decided to just assume i don't have anxiety or a hard time expressing myself i just meant that these characters act by themselves despite repeatedly realizing thats not the solution also thinking ahead about what could happen next is called a hypothesis
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thing is you can make them.do that? well if ur good at writing its called character development
character development isn't making a character suddenly turn 180 at the drop of a hat lmao. you act like people become confident when they say "okay i will be confident, starting now!" yall know shit about writing, stop attributing any minor inconvenience to bad writing
baseline here is that not everyone operates like your nor how you act with your partner. don't be dense, it's not hard to understand. "it's not that deep" yall the reason media literacy is dying.
its clear you are projecting ur irl insecurities into this too much and are online too much i hope you have a better day or get therapy if a commeng that wasn't supposed to be taken this seriously has offended you so deeply
no baseline is i disagreed and you took it personally
in my og comment i said i get not being perfect meaning i don't actually expect anyone to be this straightforward just that this plot keeps going in circles pleantly of pwople feel the same way i do.
ik you read as much smut as i do and you know as well that most bl manga has very little plot especially porn so when your ead one thats obviously not there for the plot and judt for smut liek this its reasonable to expect a more casual experience when taking in this media. bashing my whole persona because of your own opinions opinions that have noting todo with me anymore at this point you are taking ur anger out on me and assumptions is pretty abnoxious and pretentious
"thats just bad writing and going in circles"
So characters that communicates poorly = bad writing??
Idk bruh but just look at real life, just because people communicate, doesn't mean everything is solved? Because not everyone can communicate properly??
Like there's so many couples who do communicate but there's little progress or sometimes, they just repeat themselves, and that's because people have their own personality/setbacks??
I mean, what happened in the story is realistic. Just because they're struggling to make changes (repeating themselves), doesn't mean it's bad writing.
"it's not that deep bro"
Uh well of course, this is fiction lmao but wow, would it hurt to have a discussion? (especially so when it's related to something people care about).
Saying that won't help your argument, in fact, I think you literally missed the point of the discussion.
The discussion isn't just about "lol horny furries bl", but it's taking one aspect of the stories and have a discussion around it.
Eg, story about a couple, but the female lead is too insecure cus of her looks so she wants to do plastic surgery
Discussion: readers talk about the pressure of beauty standard
Yeah.
guys "basic dickhead " is upset i never said you couldn't do that at all if you look at the way that other person is talking to me simply because i disagreed with them of course im going to say its not that deep
@Weenie5 can't reply to you mayhaps you've already run away but here
now you're just being an asshole. you're the one who came here and replied under my comment and you're the one saying we're the ones who are bothered?
@hachi leaf i never actually attacked you or anything like that you just took my comment the wronge way bye bye!
what a roundabout way of saying to dismiss my point completely, none of arguments are talking about how op disagreed with you, I simply want to argue about your first comment and how you relate it to your relationship "me and bf talk so communication should settle everything!!" LMAO @weenie5
You blocked me or sum LOL
@basic dickhead its like you are willlingly avoiding that i keep bringing up that i said i get not everyone being perfect in my first comment and thats pretty funny i dont wanna argue and theres nothin u can do about it
@weenie5 how about you unblock me first lmao, what you said contradicts your point anyway
> you said "skill issue", ur explanation "i tell my partner if something is bothering me and he does too i get not being perfect but if he just realized talking about it helped a lot then started this again" but it equals to thats "bad writing and going in circles"
Struggling doesn't just mean they don't understand tf u mean, but also sticking to it, right? That's what you meant when you claim that "i get not being perfect".
But that's what happens irl, people may understood each other but actually struggle to apply it, thats why some couples "going in circles" but how tf does that equal to bad writing? That's what I wanna argue with you.
but you blocked me and dismissed everything LOL
@weenie5
Bohoo of course u don't want to engage, you reply to op with rude remarks, but can't handle the samw treatment, actual npc behavior
my name is absolutely a joke but it's funny how u use that as your talking point HAHAHHA then blocked me before we could even talk, okay small pp,
ok idk why but the little lines (eyebags?) the author draws under their eyes makes me feel calm and warm
aegyosal ?
I'm still really on the idea that I hope he isn't the reincarnation and something happens so he gets slapped by the idea that he is NOT the one in the past. do yall not see that he only loves him because he resembles his past love? that shit... is sad. and people have been eating up that trope (in nuance) in other works! like why it's like being loved because you act/look like their ex. that's horrible.
i get that but love starts in many ways. yes maybe he loves him now because he looks like his past love, but he'll get to know him better and see his kindness etc and fall deeper in love with his personality and who he is now (we're talking hypotheticals here, if he actually isn't the reincarnation).
love sometimes starts because someone confesses and the other person starts to notice them, spend more time with them and realize they love them back. love isn't as simple as all of that.
i do understand where you're coming from, him only loving him because he thinks he's someone else is hurtful and sad, but sometimes that's just a starting point. having said i have no idea where this manga is going to go and if it's going to delve into it. but just the idea that he is more free to love another man now, that he can be happier/got a second chance when he was dying is lovely.
either way personally i do love reincarnation stories aksjdhsjkd so i don't mind it as much, but i get it. sorry for the long annoying unecessary comment tho lol
no, the long message is okay haha. there's a charm to that for sure and that's why a lot of people love reincarnation stories so much. I'm just the opposite of it hahaha
even if it evolves into him appreciating his qualities, still doesn't change the fact he got this rose tinted glasses because he reminded him of his past love in the first place. it basically means all his appreciation of him going forward was grounded on the idea that he loved him in the past. I prefer it when they actually fall in love with the present rather than hinging the idea on someone who they're not. it's my main issue with reincarnation stories.
one manga I read in the past touched on this topic cause the top lives long and the bottom is a mortal. bottom asks top why top doesn't pursue his old lover's reincarnation and top says he'd like to respect the life they're currently living and it'd be disrespectful to always seek for who they're not. and I think that basically summarizes my view of the whole thing. I dislike how most reincarnation stories diminishes the person's current life as if it's nothing and less important than their past life and memories.
unfortunately though, that same manga made the same mistake about reincarnation stories on its second couple. really frustrating how first couple preached about it only for second to completely disregard that message
that's completely fair! we all like different things and take our own interpretations of what we read, if not every story would be the same and it'd be boring lol
ig i was comparing it to real life, falling in love with certain qualities of ppl you've loved in the past, which would then bring you to fall in love with the person, because again, love isn't always very straightforward and i don't exactly think that ruins the appreciation and love that blooms from that. it's just a different start to it. but like if you don't like it you don't like it.
and i do love it when stories like these go in different directions of what we expect! i've read all kinds of it and loved it nonetheless. but i'm a sucker for the clichés as well haha i just think it's definitely an intriguing concept. i'll love you in every world no matter what gets to me. but we were different people back then and you're happy with someone else now and i respect that, and have found love in someone else is amazing too.
it depends on what kind of perspective you come into this kinda concept and yours makes perfect sense as well ^^
yeah loool a lot of mangas do that. they show one thing different from the norm, and then go to make the cliché as well (which again i love, but also takes a bit away from the special feeling of the first part of it)
ps: i still remember a shoujo i loved about reincarnation, where the dude's past love in this life is actually a dude, because the past love just wanted to be by his side no matter what, go off into war with him or wtv, things he couldn't do in the past (i think, my memory sucks). and his past best friend in this life is a girl because??? maybe he loved him? i don't remember LOL and he does end up with the girl best friend, and the past love i think ends up with someone else. idk how the name just came up to me NG Life, but yeah. i did love it (even if it was a bit heteronormative with them having to change to the "appropriate" genders )
It's a bit funny though when heteronormativity leads to gender fuckery. Oh, this person who has so far always identified as a man is in a woman's body now? They're trans now, babeyyyy!
that's also fair! that interpretation is great too haha
to the person who uploaded this, thank you. I've been trying to buy this on renta the other day but I just don't know how renta works. I've asked on here twice on how to buy there cause I always get redirected to the jp page when I log in but I have yet to get a response.
so on the topic, can anybody tell me how renta actually works...
It's been a while I've bought anything there but I think you can buy points then you use those points to buy manga
yeah but whenever i log in in the english renta site it redirects me to the jp one. i cant buy in en cause it always doesn't let me in it. or am i supposed to be doing all this in the jp site? i didn't try it cause i didn't wanna risk buying the jp ver or currency that's only available for the jp site manga list
Get the ap, im not sure why its redirecting you but the renta app is pretty easy to use
I think I get it now. I tried accessing the app earlier and it said it's only available on the apple app store and I'm using android so I dropped the idea. now I tried manually searching for it for android on google and when I opened google play it says it's not available in our country... sadly. maybe that's why I kept being redirected to the jp site when I log in.
thanks for the help you two! I'll just have to live not being able to buy the EN scans on renta ig
Im on a samsung, that's really weird, what country are you in?
sorry, just saw this! i asked my friends and apparently it really isn't in our region. i hope it's okay i dont share where, im not really comfortable sharing where i live. thanks for helping ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Lol no problem at all was just gonna look into it but you figured it out on your own
this is so beautiful ╥﹏╥ the way the author presented emotions, especially en's, is impressive. en who had nothing from the start, and habaki who had things taken away from him. from the start they were already very much for each other but the existence of the second sex really messed them up.
en, although it was also to save habaki at the moment, pretended to be an omega thinking habaki could only feel like he's gained things again if he was with one and en wanted to be that person for him. realized later on that what he does was only again, taking things away from habaki (the idea to truly be with an omega and feel whole), but realized too late and continued the act. little did he realize none of that really mattered and all he needed to be was be "en".
usually don't like reincarnation stories but this one's actually nice. at least lucif already fell and loved halle before realizing he was the great witch's reincarnation
megumi's dad is very extreme and prejudiced but I can actually understand some of his concerns. said concerns also made tsugumi strive to "improve" his habits so yeah. though he really is very aggressive about his hatred towards omegas
I'll have to clear something up cause yall aren't getting it. YES this manga is smut but is BL with smut only ever about sex? so why are people being frustrated that the author is taking their time to develop this couple and ease out their VALID worries so they can have healthy and happy sex in the future? like do you expect a shounen anime to only ever have fight scenes and never have moments of contemplation?
it's annoying when people disregard and dismiss the characters' worries and development just so the readers could get and watch action. like sure it's one thing to want it to happen but it's another to think that all that's what's happening is pointless and that they should just get it on right at this moment.
yall don't get to talk about wanting them to finally peace it out and bang when you can't even have a level headed mind and appreciate the fact that the author is wanting to work out their worries right now instead of delay it for later
Bold of you to think that the average yaoi/BL reader has common sense.
I agree with what you said though.
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i know kaoru is just too used to teasing michi as a childhood friend but it definitely builds on michi's already existing insecurity ╥﹏╥ i mean that's always how it goes, people close to you tease you about something and you subconsciously become aware and insecure about said thing even if they didn't really mean to harm you like that