Vinland Refugee's Topics (490)

i agree, and why do all the scenes turn non consensual at some point? its such a mood killer -_-

I agree. I’m just kinda confused why the author went back on taeju’s word of “not doing euihyung won’t like”. That whole sex scene would of been better if euihyung did like it or if taeju stopped.
Hell, the whole telling euihyung to live with him was cringe too. I mean, I’m happy that euihyung is happy and doesn’t seem to mind living with taeju (even though he was pressured) but man, the author could of done that better.

right it felt like the author was holding on her horneiness, since she hasn't wrote smut in like 30 chapters and just let it go all it once. it's so out of character for the omega, he wasn't even like that in his heat

sammmee. I had some hope that the author will take her time and write better pacing, but nope reading the first few chapters of 3rd season I know this will be disappointing....it is like slowly washing away the omega's personality...

Then this comics isn't suitable for you taste tho..... From the start he is really a beast

Isn't author work to caught up all your expectations

god forbid someone does some criticism right?

not when half the 2nd season and the whole 3rd season being a redemption ark for him

: ( but I think author has a kink of this kind of stuff let's just wait if author change her concept

I am just saying isn't author work to caught up all our expectations... Tho....

Some bottom is like they will say they don't like it but inside they like it teaju is really a beast and author has a kink of this kind of stuff

I got that from when Taeju said he can say that Euihyun likes it by his scent, but it still gives me the eeck. It might be the authors kink, but it stinks of rape culture.

yeah both can be right at the same time. authors shouldn't just write to please the audience, and readers shouldn't only read what they like. with that being said, it doesn't mean that the author is exempt from criticism, regardless of the plot and regardless if the reader likes the plot, there are things that can be criticized regardless of the work's nature, plot, story, references.

if you think any criticism as an attack to the work or coming from negative place then why teach writing and story telling to begin with? since you think authors should just write what they like and forget about pacing, charisma, personalities ect.
it is insane to write this long of a paragraph just to tell you that it is okay to criticize the media you consume or "art" if you even can call bl art lol

I get that but I prefer an actual confirmation that euihyung likes it or that euihyung didn’t want taeju to stop.
The sex scene was fine in the first 2 chapters, then later it was getting cringe where euihyung was asking taeju to stop and him saying “I thought you’ll stop if i didn’t like it”, where as taeju responded saying “your body doesn’t want me to stop or something like that”. In addition to that, there was also the whole pressuring euihyung to live with him to.
The author can keep doing beast taeju but a sex scene is better when the two partners both like it and that consent is involved (meaning that they’re shouldn’t be a partner that wants to stop midway and say they don’t like it).
There’s plenty of yaoi’s that where the top is a beast in bed but would stop if the bottom doesn’t like it or is in pain. I wanted taeju to be like that bc he’s changing from the bad taeju.

There's no pleasing you people, is there? Sometimes people apologize not because they are wrong but because it makes them feel better and closer to their loved ones. You should try it some time.

Do you remember what Hazuki said? Hazuki said it was Naoto's lack of sense of danger that caused him to be gangraped.
By his classmates.
In middleschool.
We both read the same story, we both know how hard it was for Naoto to stand up for himself and be proud of being an omega and to "get over" the assault and the sense of guilt that comes with it. Then to have his own mate say that because he's jealous is a REALLY low blow. It should take note than a few minutes for him to forgive Hazuki.

You make it seem like he blamed Naoto for being angry with him, you have to read things from both angles to understand issues in a dialogue and not get stuck in what you think about the subject as if it were a monologue. Even Naoto understood Hazuki's concerns, Hazuki himself explained that the issue is not that Naoto is the problem but rather the people he doesn't trust, I don't understand why you want to prolong an already resolved conflict between them, they are together years, I'm sure they know how to resolve themselves better than you imagine.

I feel like u r looking at this matter in a convoluted way. What Hazuki said isn't right for sure but his concers were valid.I think the story is very well written because that scene has been built up over the last few chapters... It didn't come out of nowhere

The problem isn't that he doesn't trust other people, it's that he doesn't trust Naoto to take his own decisions about his interactions with people. Naoto isn't a child, he doesn't need Hazuki to decide who he can or can't talk to.
I get that it must be frustrating for Hazuki and Naoto doesn't help by not giving SOME explanation about what his peers are going through like "person X wanted some love advice", but Hazuki didn't need to mention SA.
They've been together for years and it makes Hazuki's jealousy look even worse.

I disagree. I adore this manga, but the way this conflict was solved was terribly simplistic and unsatisfactory.

You are throwing your own frustrations onto a resolved conflict, I think you should resolve this in therapy. Hazuki and Naoto already understood each other, this conflict wasn't so big that they had to stop talking to each other and with Hazuki humiliating himself for Naoki's forgiveness, they have children, they've been together for years. There are no longer teenagers to deal with it like that, Hazuki explained that he made a mistake with the words to express his feelings and Naoki apologized because he knows him well, he knows that Hazuki would never really think something like that and he sees his true intentions. And what did you want Hazuki or Naoki to do after all that? for Naoki to find another man and dump Hazuki because of his shitty speech? Naoki also apologized because it was a conflict that both of them caused, they understand each other well (I don't know if you noticed).

Naoto* I mistook his name for a character from another manga that I was reading

Hmm...well we will agree to disagree then. After All everyone has different perspective and preferences

"You are throwing your own frustrations onto a resolved conflict, I think you should resolve this in therapy." That wasn't presumptuous at all...

And how do you know it didn't take him more than a few minutes to forgive Hazuki? Besides that, Hazuki himself realized he was wrong and made up his mind to apologize. What he said to Naoto wasn't out of spite or the need for control but to protect him. He trusts Naoto but he doesn't trust people around him, except close friends. Let's not forget that apart from the gang rape, Naoto almost got raped while Hazuki was still in the same building in season 1.

Naoto did not apologize because he thought he was the one in the wrong, he apologized because he felt he overreacted and he knew for a fact that Hazuki had good intentions but did not express them well.

This is what happens in healthy relationships. There is no need to go to bed angry with your partner when you can resolve things as quickly as possible.

Ah, I see. You are one of those people who love it when misunderstandings and conflicts are dragged and stretched out to the fullest.

Maybe you wanted Hazuki to be angry enough to rape Naoto and then Naoto would leave the house and go seek refuge with another Alpha and then that Alpha would try to rape him again and then Hazuki would miraculously come and save him and apologize for raping Naoto earlier, then go on a "redemption arc" spree until even Naoto would have no choice but to forgive him.

I believe you are reading the wrong manga. You should find one with a psychological tag or something. That should be right up your alley.

There is nothing wrong with a couple deciding to resolve their conflicts early if they love and understand each other. Hazuki knows well enough that he was wrong and went too far. Naoto also knows well enough that Hazuki didn't necessarily mean to hurt him.