Gosh. They look so good!!! Thank you artists!?
Thank you translator!!!
Just a note though the translation for the name is Han Jae-Yi. (or Han Jae-I).
Ok, so...for those all mad at Ian in the opening chapter. He's not a super douche. First of all, Noah hadn't found out he was preggy, obviously til after he had gone home to Korea (Student Visa expiration). And for those who kept debating with me regarding the poor state of Noah....well, I DID mention he had a degree....so it WASN'T hard for him to find a job.!!! And I was right. I'm not sure what kind of job he has...but it worked for him just fine UNTIL baby SiYeon got sick!!!
Then, I guess he has had to WORK HARDER!!! So he wasn't all that poor miserable omega EVERYONE was MAKING HIM OUT to be. Yes, his life DID change. But people adapt, you know?!? His family MAY or MAY NOT have been poor - he MAY even have had an avg income family, but one thing's fer sure, he ain't dumb. He's not crippled. He found work. Just as I had said. Just because he's a single dad doesn't mean he can't work....(@_@) Anyways, the reason he kept his child is BECAUSE he wanted to, as the ONLY remaining family member (did al his relatives die or something?!? (Relatives, not immediate family.) Same person who had argued with me brought this up. Ofc it's a legitimate reason, but the child STILL BELONGS to BOTH parents.....anyways, so Noah hadn't been ENTIRELY selfish in wanting to keep the child (to give birth and keep the child) but he DID deprive him of his alpha father. So he hadn't entirely tried to hide, but just had CHOSEN to NOT contact the alpha father. I don't know who or how or what had been presented for (some) people to think Ian is a scum-of-the-earth who had abused Noah in the past, or that breaking off the FWB relationship somehow makes you COMPLETELY EVIL. It ALSO didn't indicate in ANYWAY that Ian was gonna be HORRIBLE father!!! ONLY that ONE snippet of Noah's freaking out when he saw Ian in that Restaurant where he works that it had seemed that he had INTERPRETED that Ian was gonna take away their child (whom he had made his only family, all by his own decision). He wasn't afraid of Ian because Ian is a bad guy, but he did love Ian and Ian's rejection made him not desirous of telling Ian. Like I had said, if he had been neutral about co-parenting he WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THIS INTENSE, almost paranoid, fear of their kid being taken away from him. Idk why ppl kept on INSISTING that SiYEON is NOAH'S Child?!? Just because he gave birth and nursed and clothed and cared for him?!? No!! Have they gone INSANE or something?!?There is LITERALLY NO REASON for him to panic that Ian would find out they had a kid and (for whatever reason) would take their kid away from him!!!! Ppl are JUST TOO QUICK to judge!!!! And now that we have a dying baby and the alpha father is back in Noah's life, he can DEFINITELY HELP, TO NOT ONLY FOOT THE BILL for the Medicine and treatment but ALSO help to provide the CURE for their child based on available info for genetic disorders that run in his family BY PROVIDING his family genetic history!!!! Guys, you have GOT TA LOOK beyond the obvious presentation !!! Noah isn't some pitiful omega who has to be in debt JUST because he's single AND ALL ALONE. He's smart, and capable!!! And, like I said, DON'T JUDGE THIS Manwha based on your experiences with OTHER Omegaverses since they don't ALL FOLLOW THE SAME EXACT TEMPLATE. In THIs WORLD omegas AREN'T Discriminated Against in the WORK PLACE. Noah found a good, sustainable job that he could plenty provide for him AND his child!!!! Apparently, the extra work that Noah had to put in which has been presented in the earlier chapters to make us feel SORRY for him-as-a-poor-hardworking-omega-father-who-has-to-make-ends-meet, working his ass off, is a COMPLETE RED HERRING. It turned out that not ONLY IS OMEGAS NOT discriminated against, but ALSO that Noah is completely CAPABLE, so that EVEN IF there HAS BEEN SOME kind of discrimination he still managed!!! And the person who had argued with me regarding how DIFFICULT it was to single parent, well, like I HAD SAID, Noah HAD DECIDED, on his own, nobody had forced him, to KEEP the child. I HAD brought up the possibility that in another universe the SAME Noah could have 1. Aborted the baby (of which he had entertained the thought of) or that 2. He could have just given the baby UP for adoption!!! So Phish Phosh to ALL of YER WHININGS, please!!! I brought up these arguments because the argument for hiding the baby is so weak!!!and nonsustainble. It was BECAUSE he had to find EXTRA INCOME for the baby's NEED!!! Which we found out was because he's sick!!! Not because Noah is pitiful ALL by himself trying to provide for the baby!!!! He's only pitiful in LOVE. Not in lack of brains!!! He didn't friggin' GET A FRIGGIN spot in the ONLY SPOT AVAILABLE FOR THE YEARLY FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENT PROGRAM IF HE WEREN'T SMART!!! AND IT'S ALSO NICE THAT BOTH PARENTS ARE OF EQUAL INTELLECT. :) Anyways, enough about that. Ian is happy with the RESULT of the paternity test. So sue me.
And also, the scenes of him forcing his pheromones onto Noah and keeping their son in another room was only for one day, so please, NO ONE FREAK OUT, PLEASE!!! Ian isn't going to strong-arm Noah and wrestle their child from Noah's arms. He kept their child (who's probably sleeping, oh, just ONE of his many eternal unending Slumbers)in order to hash out their relationship !!! Dude hasn't seen Noah in FOUR years. Let the man have a moment with his mate and discuss their bonds. Jeez!!!
And look at him BEING ALL-CONSIDERATE in having his driver TAKE Noah and their child BACK to Noah's place!!! And how he DIDN'T WANT to disturb their CHILD's sleep so he sent a text instead of CALLING. The dude is a certified dad. What MORE could you want?!? So STOP FRIGGIN' throwing the poor man UNDER THE BUS!!! I mean, the things that HAD DRIVEN them APART in the past (their different needs, desires, and wants, as university kids in their 20s is VASTLY DIFFERENT FROM NOW as fully grown, working adults) - Ian, had perhaps ran into Noah accidentally, or he could have been doing a FULL-ON search, but it is good timing if accidental, and if not then he def went in search, since it was likely time for him to have a child and or to settle down. I'm glad Ian ISN'T resentful of Noah for having MATE-bonded with him. In an AU he could have resented him and then we'd have a WHOLE OTHER heart-WRENCHING story about the UNINTENDED mate-bond. Ian seems to take things pretty light-heartedly. And Noah very seriously. So... maybe MANY of the things he has said in the begining were just light brushes on more serious matters. I wouldn't take him too seriously. Even if Noah HAD BEEN in love with him in the past, I don't think that he would have been SO BLIND as to be with someone who would put him down or is inconsiderate of him. He had described Ian in a positive light and that their relationship had been good. Essentially, it ALL comes down to perfective. And the ONLY PERSPECTIVE WE CAN SEE IS NOAH'S PERSPECTIVE. So, I am not wrong when I said that there are more than one perspectives, the MC's, the ML's, and our own. We as human beings always have filters on. Noah has a filter, then we as readers or the outside perspective, ALSO has a filter on. So in order to see this story, or ANY story, you have to take off your OWN filter, as well as to take off Noah's filter. And what's left is the truth. Not the distortion from our lenses. And before anyone comes at me for coming from my high horse. That was the case AFTER everyone had started to come after me, calling me names, and putting me down. Otherwise, there WOULDN'T have been a need for me to write that long rant about how everyone is ONLY seeing things from Noah's perspective (his interpretation of the world) and that we are also adding our own distorted lens into the mix. Life isn't that simple.
¯_༼ᴼلᴼ༽_/¯(ʘᴗʘ✿)<(￣︶￣)>(☆▽☆)(◍•ᴗ•◍)(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.) No reason to come after me now.
Also, in regards to baby SiYeon sleeping forever, he is sleeping a lot because he is sick, or that and because the author wants us to see the dynamics between the parents first without having too much distraction going on with the kid. And also, surprise!!! He's sick. Good setup for us to see a hardworking omega seen in a pitiful light due to severe lack of information and partial presentation of evidence. (Aka. the filter.)
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Even NOAH had said that it was accident and that the baby had been an accident. He NEVER had blamed Ian. Yeah. You suckers better be apologizing for attacking me, putting me down, and shaming me for SHITS you made up in your freaking head.
Did someone get triggered happy cuz they saw my post?!? Well, guess what. Chapter 11 WILL PROVE you WRONG so stop being so triggered just by seeing my name when you're Literally the one(s) who fought me.
take a chill pill dude
Really??? Did you see the AMOUNT of hate I got for analyzing this piece?!?
Or HOW MUCH STRESS I got from such hate?!? JUST because OTHER can't see the plot worth their LIFE. It's getting better but the stress I went thru just to do any analysis for a piece of fiction is RIDICULOUS.
Relax jezzz, you’re under every comment, no ones asking you to stress, you’re doing it all on your own. Relax.
Your thoughts are well written
Sorry. I got ATTACKED under my OWN comments too. Yeah, I just got excited about debating the comic but all I got was hate. Even under my OWN post, even though it's about the comic. And it's ONE thing to dislike or not understand the story. But it's different to attack me because they can't follow the reasoning. Gets tired. And then calling me names.
They just attack me. And not the post or the reasoning of the story. Many have called me names, make some random assumptions. Accusing me of crap, and they didn't EVEN HAVE A SINGLE DIALOGUE with me, and didn't stay on the topic I requested in EVERY Single one of my posts. Their assumptions for this story is weird. And when I called them out on it they get upset and called me ALL kinds of names. It gets really AGGRAVATING. THAT'S JUST HOW PPL ARE I guess. Ppl are MUCH MORE POLITE or knowledgeable and understanding understanding on the official platforms.
I wouldn't have been so stressed if I didn't keep getting PERSONAL attacks. And I worked hard on my analyses only to be called names cuz EVERYONE that attacked me THINKS they are RIGHT. And then distorted what I said and accussed me of random things. I've had EXACTLY ONE person who had tested my thing WITHOUT attacking me. And once I've had a headache (thinking about the moral dilemma of the story) had told them so, and they had steppes back. No harm. No foul. They had ONLY ASKED FOR THE DEBATE. DIDNT DEVALUE ME, AND DIDN'T STRESS ME OUT AS A PERSON!!! WE WERE VERY CORDIAL IN OIR DIALOGUE AND DIDN'T CUSS EACH OTHER OUT, EVEN WHEN WE GET FRUSTRATED. THATS HOW HUMANS SHOULD BEHAVE. EXACTLY I CAN COUNT ON MY HAND. 1 PERSON, WHO COULD HOLE A SINGLE DEBATE WITHOUT PUTTING ME DOWN. AND BACKED OFF WHEN I ASKED, NICELY.
Yeah… im not reading all that, you gotta chill, its just a comic, if you cant tolerate hate, arguments, don't comment at all
Thank you.
Damn… i wish the chapter was as long as ur comment
Well, not asking you too. l'm just gonna block everyone who gives me shit for my analysis.
You can block people here??? I thought we just read,comment and move on to another series
I have seen that button. But NEVER HAD to use it until now. Just go to their profiles (if they disturb you enough) and block. It's done both ways, but you guys can still interact, just not directly.
Wow, you don't seem to have a real life and now you're defending fictional characters too much. Get some fresh air and find some friends. Hope you're in a better mental state soon
Wish I could. Anyways, only this story. Other ones I read but not this in depth. :)
Tired of run-of-the-mill complaints about obv tropes. Hopefully this is one of those that brings surprises and not just your typical dynamics.
Genuinely concerned about you. You seem to be too fixated on proving yourself right to people you don't know on a story that ultimately does not affect any part of your life. Chill out. Maybe take a break from the comments section. This cannot be good for your mental health.
You're right.
I hope he runs the company well.
The DOCTOR is SMART AND HOT!!!
Oh, so Kang SeungTae ewww.....his brother's tongue (⊙…⊙ )
There're so many ways to go about this manhwa and yet everyone is blaming Ian for the rape since he is the one to do the marking hilarious. I'm not sure HOW a mate bond would have happened?!?
Somehow people forget this is an omegaverse. If you're gonna blame Ian for getting Noah Pregnant then blame Noah for having a womb and becoming receptive to an alpha in rut. If Noah HAD just remained a beta, it would have been an alpha-in-rut wanting sex but no, he had to turn into an omega. Is that REALLY how bl works?!? Takes TWO to tango. Alphas wants to impregnate omegas. Omegas are receptive to omegas in rut. What IS SO hard about that ?!? And yet blaming Ian for the rape. Hilarious. If this world has alphas going into ruts and inducing heat in omegas in order to have sex then do you need to hold them accountable until the day they die?!? What do you want to do?!? Separate them altogether so that they can never mate?!?
Logic is out the window on this one.
nah blame the universe for fucking noah in the ass and turning him into an omega
The issue with the assault is less of what happened to them during the heat but more of how he literally r***ed him in like Ch 5 after they met again and neither of them have the heat as an excuse.
Although I agree with some of what you said, yes it takes two to tangle. But, let's not forget that Noah HAD NO IDEA he was an omega or was becoming one. But, yes I agree if Noah never showed up to Ian's door none of that would have happened. But Noah also had no idea that Ian was going through a rut. So many if and buts, honestly it won't solve anything racking our brains around the author's motives for going this direction.
I know. I already addressed this in my other posts. While it's true that if Noah hadn't shown up, this would NOT have happened, I already said that Ian had NOT expected Noah to have shown up. And, aside from the fact that Ian is no longer lucid, BOTH of them had sex prior, having experience Noah as a beta only. And NEITHER of them had expected Noah to turn. That's why I said that Ian isn't responsible for Noah turning, at least, not intentionally, unless it's one of those bizarre subconscious desire to turn him or something but then all Ian had wanted was to have a FWB relationship.
I didn't wanted to talk about that topic (makes me uncomfortable) but yes. All I wanted was to address these plotpoints only, as my requests per my other posts. As everyone kept saying the rutting sex as rape. Anyways. Enough of that.
Yup yup!
Read the fucking plot and quit bothering other ppl.
And like just comment your comment without attacking other ppl pls
Just wanna enjoy the Manwha without all this r**e discussion...is it really too much to ask...???...
yes actually
Lol No one is forcing you to read the comments. If you want an echo chamber, make your own personal discord dedicated to the series, and invite like-minded people. Problem solved.
Why??? The purpose is to enjoy the story, not to keep harping in the one point. I don't understand what you understand about reading a story. I mean. A story is 1% rape and 99% story. So why are you focusing on that 1%?!?
Why?!? I was enjoying the discussion, with like-minded people on here. Why would I go make an echo chamber??? I have a free voice as everyone else too. What's your point???
this is so funny coming from the person writing essays about how the rapist is “not that bad” and saying the omega deserved it bc he went there to see him.
Didn't say he deserved it, but that he had been a fool to show up unannounced after the breakup. And they hadn't talked nor had plans to meet up. They had not communicated at any point other than the texts he had sent him, but if which Ian had not read. The encounter was much unexpected. And yes, he was a fool to go see Ian. Even if Ian had not been in rut they would have just a super awkward conversation.
Anyways you didn't get my point about the essays. Don't know if you have even bothered to read them. Don't really care anymore at this point.
Again, this moral policing. What a headache. Go make your own point elsewhere.
I'm just gonna analyze the chapter how I see fit.
no who tf is going to read all your 3000 word essays on something so simple? they’re unnecessary
moral policing lol. people are just telling you that you’re victim blaming and that the alpha is a rapist? you can write essays but people can’t respond to them? you’re a funny person
Well, if you’re enjoying discussing the series on here with “like-minded people,” why tf are you complaining about the commenters who are discussing the uke’s rape/rapist??? What’s YOUR fucking point?
Rape is rape babe u really dont think we gonna read rape and be like "oh ok but the story is nice" bfrrr
Oh good. And yet you want to point out everything I did "wrong". If you don't read it, then there's no point in debating it with you. I've said from the get go, ever since my post of the analysis of this webcomic back then up to ch. 7 that I will ONLY be discussing the finer points of the comic NOT including the rape fantasy. I'm so done with this. If you don't read it then why are we even having this discussion?!? Everything is covered in there. Why is it unnecessary when it literally include all points to discussed in there. If you don't read it. Why are we even having this convo?!? Convo over. I don't give two shits about ppl think anymore. So shush
EXACTLY the kind of moral policing I'm talking about?!? Funny. Right. This is the EXACT thing I was talking about. You ppl are DOING the moral policing and not even knowing it and yet you said I'm defending the "rapist" in an literal rape fantasy webcomic and that I'm victim blaming. Noah is a shit character, made weak and presented as weak and clueless in a world full of alphas and omegas. Take your moral policing elsewhere. I'm done defending myself against bullshit and ppl with MORAL HIGH GROUNDS in a fictitious fantasy Webtoon. Get OVER yourselves. Just here to enjoy my comic, not to get all riled up about some "moral compass failings" in a fantasy webcomic about ppl who literally acts as animals and where men can get pregnant. Go preach to the characters themselves.
My point is EXACTLY what you have said, ppl are allowed to express their opinions. So my opinion is that ppl should shut up about the rape because yes this is literally a fantasy about rape. I don't need to defend my position anymore.
I can EXACTLY express my OWN opinion about how ppl should shut up about the rape because THEY also have right to express THEIR opinion about the rape. It's just so ...
I didn't go into everyone's page and talk about the rape. I wanted to have a discussions on plots points OTHER than the rape. However I've finally realized that NO MATTER WHICH point in the story in the story the rape topic kept coming up so then it defeats my purpose of even trying to debate this story with ppl who are so hellbent about making the story all about rape and how it is WRONG. Blah blah blah blah. I didn't come to this story to discuss about that. And I've already cleared that up in my other posts. These are my opinion. It clearly didn't say I'm going to shut you up. But if by logic you're tryiny to shut up other ppl because you feel this comic is morally wrong. Good for you. And when I complain against that you say then you say why am I complaining about that?!? Just EXACTLY what I have said. End of discussion.
no way you called this a rape fantasy webcomic LOL. ive seen rape fantasy webcomics and this is not one of them. and noah isnt a weak character either and also not naive just bc he made one bad decision? maybe if you weren’t writing stupid victim blaming bullshit people wouldnt be annoying you so much. i thought you had critical thinking skills?
Oh right. Let me Throw this back Right In Your face. Go read something else if you don't like my running commentary. Whatever your perception of r**e comics are is None-of-my-concern. Like I said, I'm not here to the discus the ***e story. I am here to discuss the finer points of the story. *Not sure* why this has to be reiterated time and time again. Right, it's YOUR perception of what is right or wrong. I'm sorry if you and everyone else who are moral policing other ppl's reading fantasies DON'T FEEL the SAME way. I give TWO SHITS about your definitions of what's right and wrong, and what is considered so "wrong" because you don't perceive it as **** fantasy. That's on you. I really don't care. Define it what you will. However you will.
AGAIN, I am here NOT to talk about it. So WHAT is it that you don't understand about my NOT WANTING to talk about that - what is it that you are TRYING so hard to accomplish that you keep bringing it up?!? I SPECIFICALLY STATED in my posts that I am HERE ONLY to discuss PLOT POINTS NOT related to the rape. I don't like talking about it and if you're gonna have a discourse with me on it, I'm not having it. And if you agree to my discourse then stay on the topics at hand. Otherwise, I have NOTHING ELSE to say to you or anyone else who keeps on wanting to broach this subject with me. END of discussion.
And guess what, if these so-called "ppl" are SOOo annoyed with my discourse then don't read it. The reverse is true for me. Discussing ___ EXACTLY what I've posted in my header___ giving me your morals values and what not ___ keep it to yourselves. And stay on MY TOPIC. The SAME EXACT REASONING about how I irk someone with my writing is the EXACT reason why I find it bothersome that ppl would harp on the exact thing I deem irrelevant to the story as a whole and that is ALL they would talk about. Whatever. Idc anymore. The same reasoning that irks me is the same as yours and everyone else's : that if (you or I) hadn't written what (you or I) had written then the opposite party (the "they") would not have been so "OFFENDED" as to "come attack (you or I)" when I have LITERALLY posted in my header that I'm NOT talking about it?!? Why there are ppl who likes to preach about the morality of things on a site full of adult-mature themes is beyond me, and yet is irked by my posting, because it doesn't AGREE with their values from the real world, saying that I shouldn't have written these because it irks them?!? Well, the logic goes BOTH ways, the exact same thing that you (guys) wrote irks me. So maybe YOU should stop writing them because it irks ME?!? Imploring a group of ppl full of moral high grounds, who likes to preach about morals on a website full of explicit materials, to talk about something ELSE, to think deeper and outside of the box, apparently isn't cutting it, because at the end of the day, that's all they can see, so it's worthless of my time now. If you tell me to stop writing things that irks you, well, you should do the same, stop writing things that irks me. Goes BOTH ways, don't you think?!?
The EXACT same fucking reasoning can be applied for to you (and other people). Stop writing and posting shit that annoys ME. Yes, me. It's NOT ALL ABOUT YOU, you know??? Again, this is fantasy and fiction. If you don't like it, go read something else. I'm just here to enjoy the comic. Not to hear about everyone crying about rape and how it's wrong. If a normal person doesn't even know it's wrong then they have problems.
ALL works of fiction is fantasy. Define it how you will. I give two fucks about your reasoning an logic.
you really think anyone read your essay, basically u are saying rape is not wrong and you were the one in the first place being bothered by other comments, u sound really immature idk u would probably also justify shotacon saying its fantasy, please seek help
Oh wow, @salvation, so fine of you yo ATTACk me and then running away by blocking me. Don't even have the GUTS for my response after attacking me. What is it that you DON'T GET about fiction and the ability to differentiated from RL??? You keep going to other ppl and attacking them for their viewpoints and then attacking them personally over a piece of fiction. Really, get a life. Oh wait. You're ALREADY out of my life, GOOR FOR YOU. CONGRATS.
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My original post for you, if you happen to want to read it is this:.
You're projecting and are out of line. I don't know why you keep coming after me saying I said rape is not wrong. What part of the fantasy world don't you understand?!? It's "fine" of you as to go SO FAR as to attack my CHARACTER AS A PERSON when you now Next-To-Nothing About Me. The only immature people are those who whine about rape and who go around JUDGING people. You shameless p.o.s.
I don't need to justify myself to you. Why would I need to seek help?!? Are you EVEN LISTENING to yourself?!? You're morally policing me and you don't even KNOW it and I'm calling you out on it and then you say I condone rape, which is THE EXACT definition of what moral policing IS!!! On a fucking manhwa fantasy WEBSITE. Just get that thru your FUCKING HEAD for once. And why would you assume I am ok with defending Shota on?!? Some stupid giant leap you've made there. You asshole. I am just here to freakimg enjoy an comic. Not to be preached at about how I do or don't defend a character in a fictional story AS IF it is a REFLECTION of who I am. Your mind is really twisted. I'm not having this convos anymore. Go fucking bother SOMEONE ELSE. For once.
And the art is soooo beautiful. If give my SOUL to read this R.N.
Cannot wait. Ppl are saying it's SA but it's not quite.... initially it DID started out that way but...it became consensual