Why did uncle do all those stupid things to his OWN family?! Wtf he even married if he was gonna off his wife??? Raised his son so he can slander and make him the scapegoat for everything?!?
And even if Kang SeungTae says he's with SiHyeon, doesn't mean he can't have his henchmen kill him off. But let's say he's innocent, then the uncle killed him.
I feel bad for the cousin. His dad is an asshole. So he grew up without a mom too?!? Wtaf. If I were him I'd either wipe out the family or run off to have my own life. That dickhead of a father. He SHOULD rot in jail forever.
Having glanced at the comments section before going into the comic made me biased against Chiharu but as I'm reading it I'm feeling things. The art is phenomenal and their backstory is really sweet. I cried a few times.
I'm also old so I have much more perspective regarding how things are different in the past, things we wanted but didn't get, the missed chances, failures and successes, people who have been there with us, how ourselves and our relationships evolved over time. Etc. etc. and then coming to terms with them in the present.
Chiharu, I thought was a deadbeat loser but irl he's such a cute sweetheart, and was the shining light that Shuto never knew he needed. He's not a deadbeat as he does have a job but he'd rather mooches off Shuto and pretend he's being stalked just to live with him and pretend he's lacking in work.
This is so sad but....either he knows his pheromones is too strong, or...as YeJun/Noah feels it, a scent of utter desolation....that means Ian feels removed from this world, or doesn't want to make connections with omegas, for some reason...So...he doesn't want his pheromones to influence them. I wonder if it's a subconscious rejection?!? Maybe that's why he only goes after betas. Oophh, sounds like Ian has a painful past.
And I guess I was wrong about Noah's intentionally trying to get laid as an omega. But it's just really difficult to envision an informed womb suddenly manifesting since organs takes a ALONG TIME to grow, and if betas ALREADY have wombs then they're already omegas by default, and if they have wombs and turns into alphas then the womb goes away?!?
Anyways, poor Noah.
Imy theory is Noah was misdiagnosed as a beta but he was an extremely recessive omega that never had an actual heat and Ian's dominant alpha pheromones influenced Noah's body to develop into a regular omega
Yeah, that's possible too but I've always read stories where omegas get really wet when they have seggs. So even if he's recessive he should be excreting sex-stimulated lubricants. It's hard cuz Ik Omegaverses are just made up junk-a-bullshits, but like make the bullshits make sense. I mean, recessive from my understanding is just really low pheromone levels (almost undetectable) and low conceivability. But if sex-stimulated lubricants aren't even there then....like, so are you an omega or not?
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I meant secreting. So tired zzz
Everytime I read this, my blood boils
Everytime they introduce a new character You'd think we'd be on to something. The thing is, it just makes everything MORE confusing and convoluted. With this new ch. We finally see that there is definitely more of a thread to this than the ML and MC being fucked by God. The uncle is a piece of shit.
Ok, I finally understood why the uncle is transferring his brother's share to his nephew, to get in the good graces of his father. But like, he's just losing his footings if he transfers the shares ...but anyways, he's listening to Kang SeungTae, for some reason....so now that SiHeyon had more shares and can combine w SeungTae then that would tip the favor?!? Why is he SOOOO shitty to his own son?!? Wouldn't he Want his son to succeed?!? I mean, after he's dead and gone he'd still rather be his nephew to stake the claims?!?
Ok, so SiHyeon has more worth than his looks and and being banged and sleeping around. Gottit.
Regarding DoYoon's use of his pheromones to suppress YeJun being an asshole move: yes, but of course, in the past he wouldn't have been able to do that because Noah/YeJun was IMMUNE to that. IF he was THAT MUCH of an asshole he COULD JUST get with an omega, since he CAN use his pheromones to subjegate the omega. Why mess around with a beta for??? ~ Hmmm... Questions..
Also, let's say an alpha's pheromones are really powerful, is the rule of this universe stating that the omegas are rendered helpless?!? Or was it because YeJun is not strong enough to fight it?!? But then again, DoYoon is a dominant alpha so...yeah, it sucks he's using his pheromones to prove a point... 1.) To prove Noah is an omega --- hmph so he's jeering at him --- using pheromone communications 2.) To prove that Noah is his mate. [*Rape discussion not included*]
~ANYWAYS~
What I want to get the crux of this is:
They had a very good friendship relationship UP until their very first sexual intimacy THAT WE CAN see so far in the latest chapter. (Ch. 7). In-no-way did it depict him as being an asshole. Let's say he DID seduce the beta, then you can say then that beta had been seduced. The problem for YeJun (and for us as readers being *sympathetic* to him -- as it is being told from his p.o.v.) lies in the fact that he has feelings for DoYoon --- and he had GONE INTO the physical relationship KNOWING that. He didn't want to be REJECTED so he went along with him. Let's SAY for the sake of the argument that DY seduced YJ KNOWING YJ has feelings for him, then yes, he's an asshole for using him, DESPITE knowing those feelings, IF the relationship was purely transactional. But... ACTUALLY whether or not DY only seduced him to "use" him or NOT remains to be seen. YeJun could have easily denied him, but because he has feelings for the alpha he decided to go along with it, As He HIMSELF had said...
People forget that people get into FWB sitch all of the time, and this only works if neither party has feelings for each other or if the breakup (discontinuation of the sex or friendship altogether) would not affect them. Like, they can somehow dissociate from it (the physical acts from the feelings).
So, this relationship is based on what would SEEM to be a one-sided relationship. --- AT "ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME" YeJun COULD Have said "let's quit this". It doesn't have to be DoYoon to be the one breaking it off. The reason the beta is hurt is because he's the one with more emotional investment. And another thing, if sex with a beta is SoOO painful or frustrating because of how a beta isn't built to take-in an alpha's dick, why can't DY just do it with an omega?!? Did people miss the part where he'd asked YeJun if he'd wanted to stop before he puts it in the first time around?!? And then instead of thrusting in all-the-way he only went as far as they both could handle and then he said, ok that's enough for today. Let's say again, for the sake of the argument that he's only SLOWLY easing the beta into the sex so he won't feel so much pain and will be less likely to refuse him and build more trust with him, then you can say, oh, he's only doing this for that purpose, just a fling.
We ACTUALLY DON'T know the reason why he'd said what he'd said when he'd told YeJun that "he doesn't mind that YeJun is a beta" --- that part can be interpreted as his trying to console the beta --- until the "it's better that you're not an omega, actually" -+- ok, that one can be up for interpretation....It can be he was just saying that to comfort YeJun, OR he has his own hangups about omegas, or MAYBE, as someone else had said, he wanted a pure relationship NOT dictated by pheromones, NOT that so he can mess around w/o consequences (someone mentioned pregnancy consequence) --- if sex with a beta is Soooo difficult/painful then why bother?!? And why go slowly?!? Stringing him along?!? All these are but possibilities. Anyways, DY must have broken it off with YeJun because he has been mate bonded. The reason was NEVER given.
Also, during the rut we don't know if it was an accidental marking due to an unawareness of omegahood manifestation and subsequent heat induction by a rutting alpha or if YeJun went into it knowing he's been turned...these are all assumptions.
All-right-now, we're going on to the court cases/parental rights. BOTH parents have rights to the custody of their child. Noah doesn't have to the right to keep the child solely for himself, unless he's proven incapable, which he isn't, but if we have competent lawyers from the dominant/powerful /rich alpha then most likely alpha would win <--- assuming this gets taken to court. Now, so far, we have ONLY been seeing things from a sopping wet mop of a sorry-ass omega who is fearful of the repercussions of having marked an alpha and then running away, AND WHO for some UNKNOWN reason, is raising the child IN SECRECY AND FEARING that child would be taken away. Nobody had explained the reason why that is. Everyone is like, yes, the alpha has come-to-take the child away. Umm, ok.... and that, yes, he will win, that is why the omega is Sooo FEARFUL...wait, like wat??? Is this a typical setting in this universe?!? First of all, DoYoon was never even interested in Omegas in the first place --- according to YJ, OR it COULD be that he liked YJ REGARDLESS of HIS GENDER. When he came to meet/confront YJ, he had said, oh, yes, a child, he must be the right age to be mine. But NO WHERE did it say that he will LITERALLY be taking the child away. THAT is ONLY YeJun's fear - and again, I have no idea where his fear is coming from. I do not know whether or not YeJun is responsible for the marking accidentally or intentionally<--- but which MAY be the root of his fears.
If YEJUN had interpreted DoYoon's saying that "it's good that you're a beta, and in fact it's good that you're not an omega" to mean that he's only worthwhile/relevant to DY if he is NOT an omega then his having turned omega would make him sad and scared that DoYoon will no longer be into him. He's afraid of being rejected. That brings up a good point, someone had said that he's probably afraid DY won't like him anymore since he's turned. .... But, moreover, he didn't JUST turned, dude straight up went into heat and forced alpha to mark him w/o his consent. I would like to say that it is unclear if YJ knows that he had manifested and sneaked in (by sneaked in it could be a literal I've-come-to-see-you-during-your-rut-knowing-I've-turned-but-wanted-to-be-with-you-as-an-omega anyways) during DoYoon's rut, resulting in the marking, OR that during DY's rut he went into heat not knowing he had turned <--- as SOME people had pointed out... BUT, you can see YeJun is WAY more Lucid than DY was during the rutting sex, even though he was in heat. He even recovered first and went to wash the sheets. I'm ASSUMING he had more awareness about the marking than DY did due to his being more lucid and could have stopped DY from marking him --- assuming he knows that much about omega hood --- and also knowledge about how if an alpha comes inside an omega in heat it will impregnate the omega -- unless he hadn't known....Or that their sex was so intense that in-the-moment he was clouded by pheromones or being high from the sex.... But uh, then why tf did he run away if he hadn't known?!? There's NO FUCKING WAY he'd ran IF HE HADN'T KNOWN. Wtaf. He's afraid and ran away from the responsibility of the marking AND the fact he's turned an omega, which MAY enrage DY. Anyways, he was the one who ran away.
IF their relationship was purely FWB the only one to get hurt is the one with feelings. For the sake of the argument, let's say DY was just playing with him, then, end of story ---[the conclusion that the alpha is an asshole story, no explanations needed there]---. But if DY had feelings but never expressed them then who knows?!? OR, that if he DOESN'T KNOW YJ's FEELINGS for him and YJ didn't express anything then yeah, it's all on YJ for not voicing his feelings. YJ went into this relationship WITH feelings. Nobody forced him into it. Even IF DY had broken it off for legitimate reasons he would still have been Hurt. Or, if this a misunderstanding kind-of-trope then it's for whatever reason he's drummed up inside his head. Too many unanswered questions...
If DY didn't care about YJ why did he have sex with him?!? I mean, when they reunited?!? He could have just taken the child and go. No need to build any kind of relationship...my guess is that YJ DID such a good job of disappearing that it was difficult to find him. AND IF this Omegaverse is one that has betas possibly manifesting into their second gender at some point in time other than during adolescence, at a MUCH later stage, or being w/ an alpha turns them... then the possibility that this MAY have occured made DY realize this at MUCH LATER time that his mate COULD be YJ, in which case then it can partially contribute to the time lapse -- and would make sense too, as to why he sought out Noah. We don't know. The other factor is that YJ hid well too. And so added to that it took him 5 years to find him. Just a guess. Since, 5 years is a very long time. If it hadn't occured to DY that maybe YJ had turned he wouldn't have tried to seek him out. To confirm, of course, he had to use his pheromones, since, if YJ is SOOO MUCH LIKE A BETA due to his EXTREMELY recessive nature then he can ALWAYS deny he's an omega, except ofc for the fact that DY saw his mark. And conjectured that this kid could be THEIR child. Not his, not his, but THEIRS, or OURS.
And like I said, if sex with a beta was so difficult and painful, as DY had said: "back then, even with a good amount of lube it was difficult" to insert and have sex and he couldn't thrust in all-the-way. My guess is that he likes YJ but either unvoiced or just an undefined or just FWB relationship. But when DY had cut it off, he didn't cut off the friendship part, when I looked back it feels as if he cut off the sex part but wouldn't mind being friends. But YJ interpreted it as if DY doesn't want him anymore so he's heart broken. And he said he's been dumped, but for one to be dumped it has to be an official relationship (dating/bf/fiance). FWB doesn't have that same commitment and definition. As far as I know, it's not an obligation - you just stop being FWB once you decide you don't want to anymore, although that is the same for official relationships, but the one butt hurt is YJ, because he's the one with feelings, AT LEAST, as far as it has been shown.
I'm guessing he left because of a broken heart. Then he hid because he's fearful that DY would find out he's the omega that's he's marked, and according to what we know DY said to YJ that he doesn't mind that YJ is a beta, but he must have either interpreted the "In fact, I'm glad you're not an omega" as I don't like omegas, --- but it could have been said to console YJ. But, as of yet, we don't know the meaning behind that. If one were to assume is that DY is 1) just playing around w/ YJ. Ok, so let's say he is, so what?!? --- the relationship is undefined/FWB and YJ went in knowing that or finding out that it is --- he could have broken it off or alter its course. And 2) DY is doing it w/ a beta so he doesn't impregnate some omega <--- Ok, but that is JUST an assumption!!! Given how much DY kept emphasizing the difference NOW compared to THEN. Now, the third point: why is YJ so FEARFUL the alpha would take away THEIR kid?!? It's the WHY for me. Not the legality of the case nor the fact that it's the powerful ability of an alpha to win a court case, thus forcimg the omega to relinquish the child.
Also, I've had a response from someone making an ASSUMPTION that "Mr. A-Hole" would think that YeJun did that to tie him down with money --- that's why YJ didn't tell him....what?!? Maybe with love, but not with money....in WHICH PART of the story did that even occur?!? DY didn't approach YJ SOLELY BECAUSE he's a beta. He said "it's better that you're a beta", but it never said why. Upon their reunion DY even said, I don't mind the marking, it even stabilized my rut. And WHERE did it say that DY thinks omegas would tie him down in that way?!? And IF SO why would he come after his child now?!? Well, assuming he wants kids now he could just be tracking down Noah for that, sure. I'm sure he didn't know that Noah had a child until he sought him out. Anyways, too much assumptions. I'm leaving room for interpretations.
And let's say even if "tied down with a kid" --- in response to the gold-digging assumption: he's wealthy enough...and can always, as you say, take custody of the kid and just tell the omega to "shoo" since he's powerful enough. I think Noah is just afraid of rejection. But, in order to protect his heart he went away. And, if he knows he's done something wrong (like the non-con marking) then yeah, you bet he'd run his ass out the door....
And to address another point in the same argument against the non-con marking: ...why would DY care to go to court against YJ for the marking?!? What would he gain by it?!? Just waste of his time and money.
Anyways, Can't you see HOW EXCITED he is to see YJ?!? He said, "NOW SEX with you is SOOO good, Cuz No Matter HOW MUCH lube I used in the past it would always be so tight". [And here comes the ragers against non-con sex.] I'm sure DY is JUST Repaying what YJ did to him in the marking. Lol. And unless DY turns YJ into a baby-makimg machine....then. That'll be the end of the ship. But, if he makes more babies and allows them to be all together, then cool.
Yeah, ok. So this one's not a gentle approach kind of thing. But... Hey, five years of no sex.... we're gonna assume the mate-bonded alpha has been celibate....hahaha.
And...during the sex he sniffed the omega, saying ~Ah~ "Oh yes, this is the scent I remembered". (⌒▽⌒) . The end.
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Also, to address the where tf is the baby SiYeon....he's probably sleeping somewhere nearby .. as pointed out by one reader, he has one role to play, appear to be sleeping in every single situation.... But I'm sure he's being safe-kept somewhere so the parents can have "ALONE" time/ sexy time. Let's discuss this mate-bonding time. Let's educate each other on the sex regarding second-gender hood. --- Sarcasm heavily implied by DY's words.
If there are further discussions on plot points you want to discuss, feel free. I analyze everything, no jumping to conclusions just yet. Gotta wait to see how the story unfolds.
I can’t speak on the actual substance of your comment because I can tell it’s loaded with spoilers but just seeing the length and care you put into over-analyzing a Yaoi manhwa shows me, you are my overthinking soulmate and it was love at first comment.
Lmao. Thank you @AnonymousQ.
If, when once you've read it...and I'm sooo glad I labeled and hid this as I realized it may contain elements being addressed as spoilers...since I myself REALLY Really hates spoilers (that are not marked and properly hidden to warn the reader), then feel free to address any plot points (other the overly trampled*rape point) or conjectures you may have. I think I got addicted to the comments section.
Lmao.
If one more person keeps talking about the rape I'm shutting this site down.
First of all, we know it's rape.
Second of all, we know it's wrong
Third of all, I don't NEED you to tell me what the Definition of Rape is.
And Last but Not Least, don't tell me it's wrong because blah blah blah.
And maybe a FIFTH point, I got it already so STOP TALKING about the rape.
I just want to see what the FUCKING story is ALL ABOUT.
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Literally
Then people get pissed when you say “if you don’t like it, don’t read it”
Omg, how funny. I LITERALLY JUST messaged u about this. How funny.
There is just some AT LENGTH discussion about the rest of the story.
When I said, aside from the rape...
I started talking about the rest of the points of the story...and all the comebacks were about how illegal, immoral, blah blah, ...
I believe you’re talking about something else considering I haven’t said anything about illegal reading in quite some time nor do I judge anyone about being immoral
and to top it off I would’ve had you blocked because i hate dealing with back and forth arguments
Huh?!? Oh no. You've got it wrong. I wasn't referring to that AT ALL.
I was saying that when I was talking about the story and saying that people kept coming back to the rape part or that is their main complaint I meant that the other people who responded to my responses gave me the EXACT response I wrote in my my blurb up there. Instead of talking about something useful or other plot points pertaining to the story they keep telling me that it's rape and how it is wrong, and that's ALL they would focus on. I wasn't referring to your posting of content at all. I think you misread.
I think you misread about the part I mentioned "illegal" and "immoral" because it was in regards to when ppl are talking about the rape, not to your upload "illegal" content. Ha
OH OKAY, Yes I completely misread that dont mind me
Don't read the comments when it triggers you so much xD. Most people writing this probaly don't read them and Just write their opinion.
It's not so much that. They're focusing on the wrong thing that's why I'm pissed. U know? Like, read the story... there's more to it than the rape ...and ofc ik wat rape is so they don't need to spell it out as well. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
God almighty did you say if persons talk about their own opinions about RAPE your gonna shut the site down lol I hope I didn’t misinterpret anything haha so damn funny how others comment about RAPE triggered you very peculiar.
If was a joke.
[Get with it.]
Just frustrated ppl are focusing on the wrong thing instead of the story. Like the story is 99% anyways. I'm not going to rehash this.
K…… hahaha
Ehhhh don't read the comments then? People are and will always be free to express their opinion.
Girl. It was a joke. I'm not pissed at people's comments. Just the shallowness of judging characters and sitch before more is revealed. That's all. Read the thread I explained it there.
omgg i agree so much!! like yes we get it, its rape but also ITS FICTIONAL!? and there's so much more to the story than that one scene plus the stories always try to make up for the wrong doings by the end so it doesn't feel that wrong too!! Like potn!!
i just hate how the whole story gets criticised just because of one immoral thing specifically when the plot is really well laid and good!!
This ofcourse doesn't include all the stories that have rape cause some of them just take it too far with shit plot so they deserve the hate!
A joke? Is that why you wrote a whole essay about how much it annoys you? Doesn't sound very convincing. Also it may not be them that are shallow but you being judgemental of them and unable to accept the concept of people having opinions that won't validate yours. People can find points in the story they dislike (even if it's from the very first chapters) which destroys the whole plot for them no matter how it's going to progress(such as the fact that he raped the main character by using his pheromones ). It depends on the pov of every individual. Rape can be triggering for many, they just express their opinion on it, considering that's the point of the comments section. You are free to like a character as much as you want, but you have no right to ask for them(other readers) to stop expressing their opinion about the very same character.
Dude. U need to chill out. That's EXACTLY why I wrote this. Yes, it's an Exaggerattion. Ofc everyone is ENTITLED to express their opinion. Jeez. And the rape point is SoO apparent. Anybody can see that.
You're the one who wrote a whole essays "invalidating" me, saying that: "but you being judgemental of them and unable to accept the concept of people having opinions that won't validate yours". First of all, what does my saying that everyone is FOCUSING on the rape and not talking about the story itself means I don't understand what they're saying. They're just focusing on ONE point of the story, albeit that point is SoOO extremely disturbing to them they HaVE to talk about it. Fine, mention it, but ALSo talk about the REST of the story. The story DoES NOT PIVOT around the rape. At least, not THIS one.
I don't care if I'm convincing you or not. Your opinion doesn't matter to me whether I am convincing you or not. If you can't see the lightness of the joke, oh well, joke's on you. You're Literally reading things in written form so there are no tones in the writing. I don't care WHAT you think of me that you have to write a WHOLE ass essay in response to what is just a pet peeve of mine regarding ppl who judge characters and situations too early on, this not being exclusive to RAPE stories and Rapists. Just ANY story... I have beef with THAT.
I never asked readers to stop expressing their opinions but they're Literally reading a story w/ possible rape then yes, it's about that, so...why harp on or bother to EXPLAIN to me all of the above points that pisses me off (not to the extent I'd say to shove it, bcz again, this is not that serious w/ me regarding their need to explain to me what rape is) when I'm asking or responding by saying so what is the reason behind the rape, what led up to it, and why. Did other characters contribute to this?!? Why or why not, etc. essentially OTHER PLOT points. ...and OTHER PLOT points that also Don't involve the rape. Again, THIS SPECIFIC story does not feature RApe as the main point either. And everyome is Quick to Judge the alpha, and that's ALL they would talk about, as if not other characters have any flaws. In this case especially we haven't seen ENOUGH of their interactions and backgrounds to see what is even going on. THAT'S what I mean by being judgmental and QUICK to JUDGE. The Entire book, unless POORLy written, should NOT Be revealing of all sides of the story until the end or step by step only.
Tf
This ship ain't sailing worth *shit*.
Dude's being shamed endlessly and axting like a whore all around. I mean, I can't say he deserves it, with his attitude. And now he's being blackmailed. Great. Got nothing up his ass
It's simple. In a story there are always multiple sides. The MC's. The ML's. The other characters' in the stoy. And us, the readers.
If ALL you can see is the MC's view point - that is, his interpretation of things - and can ONLY empathize with the MC AND believe in his plight, that's a very filtered way of viewing the world. The world isn't black and white. The MC in this comic is NOT a victim. When I do my analysis, it is a balanced viewpoint, not the MC's viewpoint alone. Sympathizing with a character is easy, but are the reasons valid?!? Is your head clear when you're making this judgement?!? To do so with an open mind and a fair assessment is not easy. In THIS case, ppl are blindly arguing and taking the MC's side without considering ALL of the facts, because they are so emotionally invested in this MC who is ALSO A VERY "Empathize-able" character. Emotions move people. I get it. The very word emote means "to move". It's ok. Not everyone can see everything. But don't call me dumb because you can't see everything and taking sides because I'm NOT on the side of the ML. But I see his plight. Which means I'm seeing the whole and not just the half - and by half don't forget the half we see is ONLY YeJun's p.o.v. - which is very biased 1) because he is VERY emotional (and emotionally invested in our ML) and 2) is very airheaded and a weak, pathetic character - so it is TYPICAL that as emotional people we tend to connect with the weak, and not the strong and 3) YeJun's filtered p.o.v. takes up 90% of our screen time, meaning when we see half, we really really only see 10% of the story from DoYoon's side, everything ELSE is the filtered 90% of the story from YeJun's "half". Actually, I'm giving it a HUGE margin, but everything is literally from YEJUN'S p.o.v. so technically it's 100% pure bias. If you can compress YeJun's 100% down to at least 20% then you can begin to see Ian's side of the story. We don't really see other characters and their viewpoints in this situation, so ALL we can interpret is what we see between these two characters ONLY. So we only have two sides of the story, plus our own (interpretation). However, unlike the characters in the story, we are ONLY privy to ONE. And that one seems to have compressed the WHOLE 90% of the screen. Which means we are ONLY seeing that 90%. If ONLY 10% is left for presentation of the other person then ofc the viewpoint would be skewed. The author did a good job of getting us to see things ONLY through the "poor omega's p.o.v." and because he's such a "poor omega" and the alpha is "such a dick" people are swayed by their emotions over this "poor omega" and CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT for even a FRACTION OF A SECOND in order to stand back to analyze the WHOLE story. It's funny when you can see something other ppl can't, and then being called names because they can't see the obvious, overall picture. It's NOT about Noah. It's about Ian as well. (And here comes the ppl mad at me for protecting Ian. It's funny bcz he's also a victim of this so-called nature of omegas and alphas, but I've written at length on it so I won't go into it here).
The whole picture this paints is of the relationships between the different genders and how much they are regulated and controlled by their strong animalistic, PRIMAL sexual urges and how much they are INFLUENCED by the sex pheromones, so THAT they helplessly turn into beastly creatures not of their own making, and no matter how much they fight against those instincts - with DoYoon the case in point TRYING SO HARD to avoid being ruled by his BASIC sexual instincts and pheromones by employing methods to steer clear clear of omegas altogether - whether refraining from socializing or interacting with them, to not having sexual relationships with them, to secreting repulsive sexual pheromones during his rut to repel them - they had ALL ULTIMATELY failed him - Fate played a cruel joke on him. They threw in an omega and he's done for. Hahaha. He had met his match and life played a cruel joke on him and gave him an omega mate. And a child. Good grief. Yes, poor Ian. His mind was too far gone, he didn't even know his pheromones had changed a beta or triggered a latent hyper recessive omega, induced him into heat, and then had sex with him. He only later woke up to find out that he had been mate-bonded.
Ian ALSO didn't have a choice in his mate selection, AND he had ALSO lost the chance for WHEN to mark him. So he lost out on having the autonomy to choose a mate, and the time to mark his mate when he is ready to be bonded or to make that commitment. What if he had NEVER WANTED it at all?!? Would have been a cruel thing to do. Or what if he likes another??? And yet had already been bonded?!? Why is it that ppl can ONLY see things from the omega's points of view SUBJECTIVELY??? I'm a very emotional person (yup, I didn't write all this nonsense cuz I'm unfeeling) but my mind is not filtered like YeJun's and it's precisely because I am not him that I can see more. When it comes to one's own experiences, one will never be unfeeling, it's as simple as that. Anyways, for Ian, it's like a flash marriage he didn't want but he can never take the ring off, and all that belongs to him now belongs to someone else (not monetarily, but his body). And IF he should decide to have kids he can ONLY DO THAT WITH THAT ONE PERSON. Let's hope he Likes Ian, or he'll be forever resentful that this (his autonomy to choose his mate) had been taken away from him. So no, there is NO NEED for a redemption arc, either Ian loves him, or he doesn't. Life isn't fair like that. Too bad there is no novel. Would've been nice to see things from Ian's perspective.
girl ur doing too much
Lmaooo all this rant only for you to have biased view too. I don't really care if you side with the love interest but dude you need to stop watering down the abusive things he did to the mc.
Also, I found this comment you made:
"Noah is no victim. He places himself in that situation. Nobody asked him to show up at Ian's doorstep."
Huh? It's crazy how you think mc is complicit to the abuse he has suffered from the main lead. The victim blaming and dickriding you're doing is downright insane.
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He didn't have a reason to be there. And how is he the victim if Ian didn't have control over his basic , primal alpha urges?!? I'm assuming your read enough ABO to realize this. It's not simple pheromones to attract mate, if causes them to go into heat. Ian was NOT expecting Noah to be there. He didn't summon him. Dude went there on his own. If Ian had been lucid he would NOT have yanked Noah inside after having already broken up and distancing himself until Noah decided to show up. How is it his fault that Noah had turned?!? He didn't summon Noah there. Now, tell me, which reason was valid for Noah to show up at all?!? The inhibitor?!? I think not. Dude didn't even know to use it. He HIMSELF had said that he was using the inhibitor "as an excuse to go see Ian one last time". He was sad unfortunatell victim of fate and biology. Ian, his right mind, would NOT have resumed any FURTHER sexual activities with Noah, because he is the sensible one. The one with emotional attachment is Noah which is why he came seeking Ian.
Can you imagine WHAT kind of convos they would have had if Ian hadn't been rutting?!? A VERY AWKWARD one.
But abuse, what did you mean? Ian didn't abuse him. Not in the past. But I'm sure he's livid at having been mate - bonded against his will.
I'm not biased. You are. I wrote a lot in a different post analyzing everything. This is but a snippet. Read and if you still agree, fine. But stop trying to argue w/ me on EVERY point because that LONG ASS thread contains everything that needs to be discussed already.
I know. Can't let that college education go to waste, though. Critical thinking skills are important. I think this is one of the few stories I care about. It's just so simple and easy to just "judge" something, but to analyze it critically is a whole other thing together.
Look. Ian never told him to go to his house, and they didn't ever agree to meet. He showed up at Ian's place out of the blue. Yes, he texted Ian, but Ian hadn't read the texts, presumably because he was already high in rut. And if they hadn't communicated since they'd broken up he had no reason to expect him. So Ian didn't even know he was coming.
And I don't know why you kept saying Noah is a victim when Ian CLEARLY didn't want to have sex w/ Noah when Noah had wanted more than a FWB relationship, and never wanted to have sex with omegas, but yet Noah showed up, got turned into an omega by his pheromones, which he wasn't even AWARE of doing, and then he forced the omega into heat, because it's a natural phenomenon for alphas in heat?!? Like, he didn't have any control over his rut ...and nobody (ahem, looking at you YeJun) had known to inject him the inhibitor - makes no sense to try to give it back when he doesn't even know when to use it. Anyways, everything Ian did was not withing is control, inducing an omega to go into heat, which causes the omega to be receptive to the rutting alpha, ALL very natural and part of the order of things in an omegaverse. And then the desire to mark the omega came out, as well as the instinct to impregnate said omega. Now, IF Ian HAD done this INTENTIONALLY, then yes, it's abuse.an was gone in the upper highs sky and you can still blame him. That's h-i-l-a-r-o-u-s.
And once the alpha had the omega turned on, the omega releases his own pheromones which then attracts the alpha, so that it's a back-and-forth interaction (it's like a mating call for birds or whatever, but with chemical signalling & messaging, in a dance). This mutual dance then becomes this frenzied thing until the mark has been achieved. I don't know why ppl are blaming Ian when 1) he's under the influence of his sexual instincts and sex hormones and then in addition, the turned on omega's pheromones. In a regular world, the two, alpha and omega, would just be doing this naturally, like in the wild you see rutting animals. As well, ppl also go at it like animals, just without all this intense rutting and without pheromonal influence. I'm not sure what's so surprising about that. and 2) Noah came out of nowhere. And 3) if Noah or another beta had been around they would have only experienced rough sex, not a bond, and definitely not a pregnancy. It was just all fate and circumstance. This was NOT CREATED BY Ian. And lastly, blaming Ian for the mark doesn't make sense, precisely because of all of the reasons above. First of all, Ian had NEVER want to be w/ omegas, secondly, he didn't want a serious relationship, and LASTLY he was not expecting an omega or one that WAS susceptible to being tranformed/differentiate into an omega on the VERY day he was going into rut. And yes, while the alpha has to do the marking for it to work he didn't force the mark. If by force you mean because he was forced by his instincts and the omega's pheromes, then yes. But an intentional forcing by a lucid alpha, then no. He was enticed by the omega and his pheromones and his own alpha instinct to mark him. That's what you get for messing with an alpha. I know YeJun didn't go there knowing he had turned, but regardless, he was a victim of circumstance and as well as for Ian. I would've liked to say that both are unfortunate except Noah REALLY REALLY likes being Ian's omega, and if Ian hadn't felt the same way, then that REALLY sucks for him. And it sucks ppl say that Ian marked him ("bit him first"- I mean should he wait for the omega to bite HIM first?!?) when ofc he is the one who has to do the marking.....so blaming the marking on him as he is the one who has to do it didn't even make any sense. It's like saying, oh the omega attracted me w/ his scent and seduced me and opened his neck for me to bite him. Like what?!??! I mean...so if the omega did that and Ian was unwilling it's still blamed on Ian anyways?!? I mean, how else was this gonna go down?!?
Yeah, in the first chapter he definitely came off as a jerk though. But he really loves Noah's pheromones, once he's got it forced out of him. He had said :" ~ Ah, this is the (pheromone) scent I remember" (when, according to him, he had remembered nothing else). Since recessive omegas don't exude a scent, so there's no way to know until the heat is induced. Anyways, regardless of what happens now, they're bonded. So there's no getting around that fact.
Bro are we even reading the same webtoon? You claim to have critical thinking skills but dang, look at all these points you are trying to make. All these word salads just really serve to manipulate folks into believing the love interest is not as bad as he seems.
Preach all you want but it is evident how biased you are. I know most readers learn to separate fiction and reality and I really hope this applies to you as well. Because the way how you strongly defend the love interests actions make me honestly fear what your real life views on abuse are.
Also, you have the choice not to reply but you chose to reply so why are you complaining lmao.
Anyway, this will be my last reply cause I have to finish work. Good talk though.
It's funny you just said that "ppl know how to differentiate life and fiction" but you failed to grasp that I do know this is fiction and yet you just equate my "dissection of Omegaverses" which we ALL know is a make-believe world....well, ALL fiction are make believe, but at least those are on a MORE believable ground than a man getting pregnant and being influenced by ruts and pherormones, and YET you equate this reality from my dissection AS IF I WOULD APPLY my knowledge to the real world. It makes so little sense you would equate that. I'm not sure how or why you would judge me based on my analysis of a FICTIONAL piece into caring about who I am as a person in the REAL world. You forget this piece and many other works are always very biased, esp. in love stories like these, told from a perspective of a weaker person, subjected to his emotions and acting on emotions rather than rational decisions. I'm not sure why you would question my very being as someone who "has questionable judgment" in real life because I can critique a piece of literature that other ppl can't?!? More objectively?!? I'm not going off of Noah's delusional thinking. Puh-lease. Don't be questioning my morality when we're LITERALLY discussing a piece of fictional work. ¯_ಠ_ಠ_/¯¯_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
you know what it never was? that serious
not a whole college thesis in the comments of an omegaverse manwha
because OP has to let everyone know they went to college hurr durr critical thinking
Apparently that is lacking in this comment section. The critical thinking.
It is incredibly conceited to assume that you know the story and nuances better than other readers who support the mc and hate the ml.
If they DID, they wouldn't have been supporting the MC.
This is exactly what I mean. It is extremely conceited and biased to believe that only your view of the mc and ml and their relationship is correct.
I'm the biased one?!? I don't think Noah is a character worthy of pity. This makes my view somehow biased. When the funny thing is that ppl are so quick to judge and side with that character. I don't know why we're going down this path again. It's already written in my post and my other essays. Go read or not but I'm tired of this discussion.
If you don't like my rant then don't fucking show up to my page. Write you OWN horrid storyline and GTFO my face.