Chp.15 is so annoying. I hate it when authors write a ml that is head over heels for the mc, but then later be fucking rude to the fl. Not only that, he finds it annoying for the mc to interact with that one guy, cuz he likes the fl.. but here he comes, whispering and letting this other girl disrespect the mc. So annoying.. If I reincarnated to that world, I'd fr tell her find another dude. Ur the heroine of the story, 100% ur gonna end up with a much better guy.
Omg.. just read chp.16... so he fucking did it on purpose?? So he is AWARE... Wtf.
And purposely even making the fl jealous.. blurgh, I get it why this manhwa has such low rating.
Chp.18-19
UGHHH Ella is so freaking EASSSSSYYYY.... Why did u immediately fold???
Atp, imma skip their moments and just find out if the shttyml took revenge for his mom.
Ugh nvm. This is all BS. Dropped.
Read all of this and I love it because you saved me so much time tysm!! (=・ω・=)
Ur welcome!! I'm just out here commenting real sht like this cuz I just know at least one reader out there who is just like me and is done with mls like this lol
Anyone knows any site with better translations T-T I was so happy to find templescan, but they stopped translating after 4-5 chapters...
Thats why I stopped reading until simeone uploads the official translation..the current ones just rough ╥﹏╥
Can someone answer pls?
Is this manhwa just full of fanservice with women barely getting covered? Still on chp.2, somehow a tutor is wearing a maid outfit with her back open... Big ass boobs, and a face that looks like she has never aged despite the flashback showing her meeting the mc when he was a kid.
And is this a harem? Or subtle harem, where the mc has a bunch of women by himself just blushing and falling for him
So far no. I like her female maid sidekick since shes also a rutless knife. She aide him from wiping his weat to being his hitman. Theres some huge chest but not to the point of a whore outfit.
Dang, hopefully what ur saying is true! Chapter 2 just rlly surprised me, was that back window even necessary?? T-T I just hate fanservice. Tysm
So far no. Been reading the novel and, thankfully, no fan service of such level and just plot.
Oh one thing I'm annoyed at with the manhwa is that the mage girl is so out and about. She's filthy and isolates herself in the book. Filthy as in forgets hygiene, forgets food, and is hyper focused in studying magic. This version in the comic is far too social to my liking.
Yes and no.
Honestly, "fanservice" by objectification of women's bodies is a thing in this webtoon, which is so unfortunate because it's such a good story.
However, I say "no" because it's not "just full of fanservice". Like I said the story is quite good. So far it shows good character development, good storytelling and world building, and the drawing, despite this disgusting aspect, is incredibly well made.
Also, the fight scenes and the positioning of the frames is God-like.
I get irked every single time I see an objectified woman, but I roll my eyes and pray for men to stop doing this sh*t while I enjoy a good story.
(warning, I will be sharing my opinion. If ur butthurt and sensitive, don't read)
This HAS to be.. a manhua right?... I was delighted to see the positive comments, someone even mentioned how this is such a well written manhwa, but so far I'm in chapter 10, and it's giving cringey, overdramatic moments, and just everything what a manhua is. I can't rlly tell since the art is like this, it's like 50 manhua and 50 manhwa style lol anyways, this white hair girl suddenly goes,
"We gotta save her.. IM AM NOT LETTING HER DIE LIKE THAT YET" DUN DUN DUN... like get the fuck out of HEREEEE... So many moments cringe me so bad, I had to take a break pretty much almost every panel. Another example that I can remember, is that one hair chick first introduction, she suddenly emerges from the darkness and goes something along the lines of her talking about how the fl killed her brother, and all the dramatic drawing lol
Man, I can't take this seriously. Not only that, this is the same annoying trope where the fl is HEAVILYYYY misunderstood. And I'm confused, is the ml that blonde prince?... And he has a lover?? Despite that, he's still the endgame?? I just know it's some sort of misunderstanding(I hope so). And omg another cringey moment I remember is how suddenly that black hair dude's personality change.. u mean to tell me, this dude is a huge ass dick, and now he's bowing to u?? Infront of everyone? Like geez, okay good. But then why did he pick a fight to the fl again(or am I confusing him with another black hair HELP).. anyways, that's not the final cringey part, it's the fact how the saintess suddenly held the spar between black hair dude and the fl. LIKE HELLOOOO??? That sht cracked me up.
All in all, I can't rlly see how this is.. UHM well written??? Maybe it's well written to u if this is the first time you've read a manhua lol cuz this is their JAM. The fl always has to be misunderstood and mistreated by everyone lol and ofc, eventually they will all be forgiven(except for the minor characters). I'm kinda shocked that this has a high rating tbh.
I had to force myself through every chapter 2021 Manhua type shit
FRRR... Well written where?? Dang they must be new to this LOL
She's literally a mary sue
I agree all the thing you said. The logic is out of the window in this story and all I feel is anger.
Read the spoilers and I'm dropping this sht bruh. Just a dumpster fire of the basic old ass "boohoooo, the dad is the root of the problem,but yk ofc blame the innocent child who was forced into this worl without her consent! Oh nooo, the fl is getting shtted on for 1000yrs! And no no, haha ofc there's no actual satisfying revenge! We just want you to pity how sadddd the fl's life is! Loookkk how much she suffersss!"... That's it. Also, the main villains r everyone in the royal family. When I say that no one is nice in this story, I'm talking about NO ONE(except for the duchess and ml ig). Even the fl's sister. She literally snaps at the fl cuz she heard something, literally becoming just like the rest of them btches. But ofc, they make up later on #－.－) And oh, the brothers? Half ass apologies too. It's sickening. I don't even wanna mention that asswipe of a father. IDCCCC that he was graped, like I get it it's valid to hate that child cuz ur a victim, but MF.. u literally ruined an innocent child's life. (Tw: trauma dumping a lil bit, read the next paragraph if u don't wanna know) Ik this feeling of hatred cuz I literally have half siblings that I GREW UP WITH. But the moment I learned the truth, I literally had no hatred for them BECAUSE THEY DID NOT ASK FOR THIS!!!! Anyways, that's all.
I wonder when will I actually witness a story where the fl takes an actual REVENGE to everyone, and not fold just cuz they said sorry after a million years later. And also, someone in the spoiler thread made a great point on how the duchess didn't apply(or was about to) for a divorce cuz of the duke's infidelity, but more so with the fact that the dude is comfortable with abusing the sht out of the fl. The duchess knew he was not the man she married, he's now just an abusive man who wrongfully placed his anger on an innocent child. And clarification, I couldn't finish reading the spoiler thread so not rlly sure if the fl ever forgives them, but it's high likely that she will. I mean, she alrdy forgave her sister lmfao Couldn't handle reading through everything cuz it was making me mad.
Personally, I believe the sister being forgiven is justified. The brothers and dad can go suck in hell. The sister is still a teenager and a child, and while I won't go into full analysis mode here on her defense, I've left a previous comment doing exactly that if you're interested to check it out (I haven't commented that much since I left it, if you can't find it from scrolling here, then it should be ok my profile with the title "leave the sister out of the family shit/stop including the sister" something like that.
Basically, she's a sheltered child who was humiliated, betrayed, and reminded of her trauma all in one go. Ofc she would be emotional, ofc she would lash out. Even with the 20 or so chapters we see her regretting her actions and coming to the realisation of what the truth of things is. I'm not saying she should be forgiven just like that, because she did hurt MC in a major way - in order to be forgiven, one needs to show remorse and true change from their behaviour. I can see this story doing just that, with how it has seemed to handle things so far.
The brothers, meanwhile, are all adults who knew what they were doing. They were kids at one point, but they haven't been for a long time. They were hurting MC on purpose. The only one I can see some sort of true remorse from is the younger brother, but either way, I hope they won't be forgiven. The dad doesn-= even deserve a mention.
Your opinion is valid, and I do get your frustration with this trope, I just wanted to share my take on it. I personally feel as though this manhwa has portrayed a lot of things (esp regarding the female characters, at least some) in a relatively realistic light, instead of making them typically and cartoonishly evil - ie. the Duchess and the sister. It's not being black-and-white, the characters' feelings are complex and something people 100% could experience themselves.
Tbf, I don't know your age, but I could see someone on the younger side/similar age to the sister not understanding this and greatly disliking her. I'm in my 20s, so I look at anyone 18 or under as v much a child - not in a disrespectul way, more of a "been there done that" way. Not assuming this is true for you, just expressing thoughts that came to my mind.
I've got plenty of experience with trauma and intense emotional moments, especially as a teen, so that's why I can't really hate the sister for her reaction. I see she can change and make amends, and I want that to happen for the sake of them both. Hell, at this point I'd rather the sisters become their only family and both abandon the shitty men in their life ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Sorry for the long comment.
Lmao idm reading long comments(as long as ofc it isn't just a total brain rot..), so its all good. Also not offending u or anything, but I'm just gonna type out my raw opinion on this.
I do see ur point, but theu only problem is I don't just hate the others and exclude another just cuz of their age. Ofc I'm not gonna hate anyone younger than 15yrs old, but at the ripe age of 16?? Ur big enough to know better imo. Ig she got pampered and spoiled, but it's insane to me that her bubble is so SMALL that she never realized anything off?? Especially with the things her brothers told her all these years?? So weird. Well, not weird cuz she's truly the definition of a noble (brat) lady. She sees nothing beyond her own little princess bubble.
(Tw: Gonna mention my own experience about ruined family)
Also, my age now is DEF not close to the sister's age LMFAO not so fun fact, I was literally one year younger than her when I came to find out about my dad's second family. I could def relate to her stupidness, I was literally just in my bubble spoiled rotten cuz my family was "well off" and I just had no awareness at all. It's actually insane how I never even realized that those kids who were like 1 to 5yrs older and younger than me were actually my half siblings, despite them introducing themselves with my dad's family name, witnessed the weird dynamic their mom had with my mom, and etc. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that I got my fair share of living in my own bubble for so long, suddenly got hit with reality at the age of 15(still the worse time of my life), BUT I never lashed out to them for "ruining" my family. When I tell u that my family hit rock bottom, it literally DID. Everything changed to worse, just cuz of this little fact. Like for sure I had the anger, sadness, and confusion at first, but not once did I think to go to their faces and just say sht.
All in all, the sister is not blameless. Like fr, how is she this stupid despite the brother literally disrespecting the fl FACE TO FACE Infront of her too?? It was not as if it was hidden. Everyone and their mothers KNEW the fl's reputation and the author wants me to believe it somehow makes sense that the sister NEVERRR knew anything?? The answer is plain and simple. She's too naive and stupidly lived in her own little princess bubble. That's her biggest flaw, and no I don't just think everything is black and white, that's literally why I said this manhwa sucks. Cuz it's literally the same garbage plot, and the justification is always "the characters are complex!!!" I've seen way better stories with complex characters and it was written well. This manhwa is giving as if the author just jumped on the trend of pitiful fl getting shtted on by everyone, and somehow at the end they regret booohoo but their apology is worser...
I would've agreed with you that this manhwa has complex characters, but it's so.. idk what word that better explains this, but so simple and generic?? You mean to tell me when the brother found out her diary(typical...), they suddenly wanna apologize?? Not only that, the CP suddenly becomes possessive towards her?? The (dumbass) sister who witnessed every shade thrown to the sister, somehow never knew anything and when she found out, lashed out on her?? Was she sheltered, and never allowed to go outside or interact with anybody at all?? And then here comes the biggest dumbass of them all.. the father. Nothing about his character is complex, it's just "I was forced, and you are the result of that. So I must bring you home to my wife! But wait.. my wife is mad??? No no no! I fucking HATE you! Everyone, abuse the sht out of her." That's it. If anything, this whole manhwa is literally white and black LMFAO it's the most basic textbook "fl is hated by family" trope. Everyone is so childish and stupid. So I don't rlly see how they are "complex".
The only character that I can kinda agree with being complex is probably the duchess?? But then again, not rlly that complex. But it's a breathe of fresh air that she didn't actually hate the fl, though u can rlly feel a lot of emotions within her eyes whenever she looks at the fl. Just like what in my og comment, someone made a great point with the duchess's reasoning of divorce. She saw that man is no longer the man she married, and is now a monster. This is probably the only part that I felt my heart finally pump, cuz wow the duchess doesn't just dog sht on the mc too?? She literally feels so human and I love it. But ofc author had to kill them off BLURGH. I wanna see something unique and actual complex characters, so tired of these recycled stories.
I don't necessarily disagree with you on the sister's flaws, and these are fair points to make. In the end, I honestly don't care enough about this series to try and argue against anything, as it's possible I'll get bored of this at some point and stop reading anyways - it's not like this is one of my fav stories ever and i'm obsessed with it, not at all /gen ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Like I do agree with a lot of your points, but just don't feel strongly enough to get mad about it. Ofc your feelings are still totally valid! I also agree with what you said about the Duchess in the other reply.
Tbh I'm aware I'm just a person who thinks in too many shades of grey and tends to understand other's povs way too much, to the point that I can't even bring myself to hate, or even strongly dislike, people who've wronged me. (This to say, I find negative emotions, especially of anger/hatred v exhausting, and find it difficult to deal with them, rather opting for a casual "eh" feeling about things)
At first, I was going to write about some of my own traumas as a way of showing compassion by relating a similar experience (yeahhh, I'm AuDHD), but figured it isn't similar enough to yours to feel appropriate.
That said, I am sorry you had to go through that, I genuinely hope things are better for you now.
I'm not mad(I am but-) to the point where its affecting my life lol It's frustrating, but that's just what it is ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Tho ofc it doesn't stop me from sharing my opinion on this.
(Also a fellow neurodivergent? Hii!!)
And I do understand how u think, cuz I kinda used to think that way too, but idk something snapped in me one day and I got tired of excusing(not saying ur being dismissive or excusing the sister's character btw) questionable things fictional characters do, that I just comment down how I feel(or tell my friends/sister about it lol). Tho sometimes I get too passionate and it may seem as if I'm gasping from air LMFAO
Also, nw were fine now. Ofc, not like how it used to, but at least it showed me how reality rlly is and now I'm not a optimistic(more like ignorant) fool. Now I regret bringing up my trauma, that was so unnecessary blurhghhheihdjd
Wait a min.. I'm at chapter 16... So the heroine is a btch? IDCCCC that she's not actually eViL. But this btch knew and pushed the fl to get killed just to save herself. Like I get it, but why couldn't she, idk, call THE ADULTS??? YKKKK, the ones who for sure will handle this? But instead she wanted to send someone as a sacrifice, and then start shaking about it. I just KNOWWW she's gonna be forgiven, and she will become close to the fl's brother. It's alrdy weird with how he suddenly walked up to her, talked to her, and even sat BESIDES her. The author is gonna cook up some crazy justification. And again, IDCCCCC that she wanted to save her ass, the fl herself did not think to send someone as a sacrifice. She literally had to use her head. Smh, characters like pink hair annoys me so much, cuz I know damn well ppl r gonna defend her actions.
And not this btch going "I'm more afraid of seeing this man(fl's brother) fall apart again.. dear God".. MFFFFF UR THE ONE WHO SACRIFICED THE FL???? TF
the contradiction is CRAZY, but i think she did it cause she knows fl is different from the one in the novel? she’s gambling on whether fl will die and make the fl bro a villian, or live and change the plot
She's still sacrificing the fl at the end of the day（￣へ￣）I hate how she's so religious and calling for god, but then she makes a 50/50 chance with someone's life. And saw some spoilers and it seems like she plays some important roles ughhh.. gonna drop this sh ig.
i mean she’s not irredeemable, and she’s not even that bad tbh compared to every other og fl she’s quite tame ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ
(no hate but)
Waahh I hate it when a character is bad, the justification is "she's/he's not that bad compared to others" IDCCC, she still did something, that doesn't excuse anything they did. It rlly shows who they rlly r, she can play with another human's life as long as she can save her ass. And idc that she was scared, the fl was scared too but she somehow immediately went to the adults to inform them??? Why couldn't she do that despite living the second time? No brain AT ALL, she just wanted an easy fix.
FAIR LMAO
Not hating to this manhwa btw, this is just my observation!<3
Lowk this manhwa alrdy reminded me of two manhwas. First, that one manhwa where the mc has a transcendent brother, I think his name is Hikan?? The brother here has the same hair(white and long), kinda the same name, and also a transcendent. And also, the CP had blonde hair, in which this story is also blonde hair. And then on chapter 10, once again, I forgot the title LOLL but that scene where the fl is talking to the ml's bro something along the lines of "have u ever gone hungry for days?, etc" rlly reminded me when Penelope confronted that sht ass pink hair brother of her. That's all lol maybe I'd find more familiar scenes that reminds me of other manhwas.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the author took inspiration. Cuz that's real tho, I literally have no original ideas(ofc I wont copy ppl's work and sell it off!).
I rlly hate the aide's(or knight of the dad) way or wording in chapter 47. WDYM "lulu falsely accused him"... FALSELY??? Do u alrdy have proof?? How tf did he gain proof so fast?? He should've just said "Lulu accused him of allegedly-". It's not that hard dude #－.－)
#ProtectLulu
Pleasee I'm still at chapter 10, is the fl gonna forgive that shit ass, douchebag, waste of earth place- brother?? I have a heavy feeling she is.. I could just telllll.. and the author is gonna justify it as "he's just cold, but he's not evil!" BRO IDC HE CLEARLY DOESNT THINK OF HER AS HIS SISTER CUZ SHES ILLEGITIMATE
hmm i really don’t think she will ?? at least not until maybe the end of the story and that’s just a maybe
Just a hypothesis but i think she'll ignore his ass forever. Like ' idgaf about you now. Do whatever you want just ever show that mug in front of me again. I wanna live my life with the man i love. Leave me alone!"
More than a hypothesis, it's just my wish. Just like he ignored her abuse, i hope she ignores him too.
Nooooo T-TTTT
I hope she ignores him totally! T-T Not just a "idc about him" attitude, but still lingering around him, helping him, and letting him talk to her. I'm so tired of readers giving me recommendations like this, only for the fl to just half ass it..
Better translations for chapter 121
https://manhwatop.com/manga/leveling-with-the-gods-series/chapter-121/
Honestly.. who keeps on uploading different chapters of different scans?? TT I hope they just keep it within one to two rlly good scans(like reaper scan)
Found site a good translations and more chapters
https://eros-sun.xyz/manga/leveling-up-with-the-gods/
THANKK YOUU!
More? they've got 143 too ?
Its the bots yall. Mangago has uploading bots
Forgot about that sigh