PerishedThought May 11, 2020 11:08 am

Idk man. In webtoons like this, the MF is always, kinda useless. In this case it looks like she just caught onto an opportunity to get stronger. But starting to develop feelings for him. I just can't ~vibe~ with it. She basically said out loud, I saw all the bullying & wanted to help. (So why didn't you? You're the 2nd most powerful in the school. What would you have to lose helping the weakest? Your time?) I get why a lot of ppl don't like her. She didn't have empathy for him before he 'died'. But flipped her 'attracted to' switch when it would benefit her.

    aisushi102 May 11, 2020 5:58 pm

    I agree with you.. that women really bad new.

    burito May 11, 2020 10:05 pm

    going around. she isn't attracted to him tho. she is attracted to the idea of being stronger, and so being his wife would make that also real (much more than being a disciple). the idea of getting to know the mysteries and all.
    he didn't even flirt with her and has been treating her like a little kid. but the simple reality of him acting all wise and all makes her greedy. greed for knowledge, greed for the magic (not for the dick only).
    so, i kind find her better than most because of that. she is greedy for the information and is openly saying so (and i hope she stays as so, and keep focusing on her desire to learn). she isn't forcing or manipulating him, only being annoying and asking. she begun treating him like someone else, because she has been seeing someone else on him, which actually makes sense.
    she isn't a good girl tho or worth of praise... but that is better for raising conflict than a worthless wet girl that wants the damn dick. some that act like "all i need is your love, because you are that much better and handsome and perfect. give me your sperm!".

    PerishedThought May 11, 2020 11:02 pm
    going around. she isn't attracted to him tho. she is attracted to the idea of being stronger, and so being his wife would make that also real (much more than being a disciple). the idea of getting to know the m... burito

    I gotta agree with you there. She's way better than most female leads in webtoons like this. Only cause she Has her own power etc. Man, Harems really do ruin a lot in webtoons cause dick is all they want in life & then ultimately become weaknesses for the ML. When that starts to happen in mangas I automatically drop cause its so painful to read.
    In this case tho, I think why most ppl don't like her -is like what you said, she's Annoying & greedy. What I see for myself is that she's reaping benefits that she doesn't deserve. You know? She is basically A side character & witness to something horrible but when she sees something different she wants to grab the opportunity. The ML really doesn't Care but seeing the MF annoy him until he gives up & brings her along is just - why??? Like, why do you get to train under the world's most powerful magician when you couldn't even help "him" when he was bullied so bad? See it as her getting where she is rn by annoying her way there.

    demon13o May 12, 2020 4:55 pm

    It certainly gives more of a feel like she's going to chase after him to learn more from his as a student seeing him as a teacher rather than a love interest. He's into older ladies since he's mentally in his 50's xD

    burito May 12, 2020 5:44 pm
    It certainly gives more of a feel like she's going to chase after him to learn more from his as a student seeing him as a teacher rather than a love interest. He's into older ladies since he's mentally in his 5... demon13o

    it wouldn't be surprising either, but i think there is signs of a crush on her. like some people have a crush for someone they look up to. but maybe he will not be interested on her... at least not until she grow old. lol since he is onto older ladies time can fix that.

    burito May 12, 2020 6:25 pm
    I gotta agree with you there. She's way better than most female leads in webtoons like this. Only cause she Has her own power etc. Man, Harems really do ruin a lot in webtoons cause dick is all they want in lif... PerishedThought

    exactly. in my mind at least we can hate her for a not so cliche reason. it is much better than seeing the usual disappointment. to think it came to that... how showing of the overuse of themes in mangas.
    i do understand from where you annoyance come from. i also see no reason for him to teach her. but i also see very little reason to not doing so.
    i see it as what it is. a grandpa teaching some random little and slightly talented girl and i hope the author keep as that (and to not make it sound like she deserves it for being that much better or pretty or perfect or destined).
    from ML side there is no specific reason to not involve himself. as he wasn't the one being bullied and he doesn't sound like some high saint/hero, keeper of shaky high ground morals. i don't find it conflicting for him to not care either, since there is no connection anymore between the body he is using and the people the dead soul cared about. the original soul backstory is too lonely and he died in such a way: a clear cut on his relation to the world. the guy had nothing and gained nothing. i don't see as positive someone taking his body either, the poor thing lived and died miserably. so how could mc doing anything else right now make the poor bullied to death guy life/death better? how much mc pays back for the body has more to do with mc feeling better about using the body than paying the dead guy. and i don't think mc cares much about that either, as he didn't even search the bullies of the guy's family... the clash as due to the repeated bullying and not because mc was trying to teach anyone anything.
    so while i find her very selfish, i don't think that would be a reason for him to care. how empty would such judgment be? like do we research people past to decide if we would be friendly or not? if they were a passive piece of shit would we decide to ignore or avoid any kind of exchange? would MC then go around talking only to people he deems as proactive? would he only save those who "deserve it". this is a slippery black hole... unfortunately. it is very easy to fall into a false sense of rightness.
    this shows a bit of how shitty things can be, but i would be surprised if mc actually cared that she didn't help before. also, the irony that if she helped the guy before, mc would still be sealed... idk if the author thought that much, but the conflict is actually interesting lol.
    also, for last, note that she got there rn by annoying her way there and because she is not so trash in the school. if she wasn't teachable, i don't think mc would even tried and if she wasn't annoying mc wouldn't even care to notice... and if she was like everyone here mentioned, she wouldn't have had the chance to learn anything. how annoyingly consistent -_- i wonder how the author will develop this, and if the readers he has direct contact to are annoyed too. hopefuly it is a bit less boring than the average story.

PerishedThought May 10, 2020 7:37 pm

I still can't get over how the company let the band call themselves "Lupus".
(I know its about lycans)
Like, "Hey did you hear Lupus released something new!"
"Lupus? The autoimmune disease?"
"No, the band"

PerishedThought May 9, 2020 11:24 am

bOY IF U DONT (」゚ロ゚)」

PerishedThought May 9, 2020 7:43 am

Something else on my mind: If Rash (whatever) became Empress, would she even know how to do that job? The current Empress was trained since young and is loved by many. If the Emperor who divorced the well loved Empress to marry his Concubine who doesn't have a solid background - how would the citizens & even political relations react? Smiles and fake tears can only take you so far. To run a whole palace & run a country is way out of your League girly. She doesn't know how to write properly and doesn't even show common manners to other royal members. One day she's gonna slip & insult another royal member from another country & then political war happens. O gosh. You can't fake cry yourself out of that.

    Femi May 9, 2020 7:52 am

    Thats EXACTLY what I keep thinking about and being the messy petty person that I am I'd like to see the eastern empire turn their back on her.

    PerishedThought May 9, 2020 8:30 am
    Thats EXACTLY what I keep thinking about and being the messy petty person that I am I'd like to see the eastern empire turn their back on her. Femi

    I really hope so too. Not to spoil anything but.
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    I just read the part of the divorce & what happens after and it's really a mess. A big huge, mess & Rash is just there all " :'O I'm better than her!"

    LeRain May 9, 2020 4:32 pm

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    He will get her a false noble family which lost their children (the scene will be pretty comical since Trashta also planned that, and 2 families will claim she is their daughter). And remember that commoners like Trashta since she is as uneducated as them. Only nobles and smart people like Empress

PerishedThought May 9, 2020 7:33 am

Wow. She even has a secret baby. All I'm thinking about is.. Shouldn't the Emperor know this already? He should've done a back ground check on her before she even stepped foot into the palace. Maybe.. Idk check if she even was a run-away slave and who owned her?? Instead he was so lovestruck he even forgot a simple procedure. You know nothing of the girl besides that she was poor dude.

PerishedThought May 9, 2020 6:55 am

Kinda sad tho, she built this kingdom ground up & yet she still can't wear comfortable clothing.

PerishedThought May 7, 2020 9:48 am

Maybe? I saw the long ponytail & immediately thought back to the Thief that stole a bag in earlier chapters. Is it him or a new character?

PerishedThought May 6, 2020 5:54 pm

Really hope that he ends up with only one of the twins. To end up with both seems kinda of forced, but if they take the poly route im gonna support!

    BUBBA-Manga May 6, 2020 5:55 pm

    I read somewhere in the comments that he ends up with only the one twin. The other twin already has someone they are seeing supposedly.

    PerishedThought May 6, 2020 5:58 pm
    I read somewhere in the comments that he ends up with only the one twin. The other twin already has someone they are seeing supposedly. BUBBA-Manga

    Oh that's cool! I wonder if it'll be an alphaxalpha relationship

    BUBBA-Manga May 6, 2020 6:10 pm

    No. Oto is an omega so alpha/omega relationship with the one twin. Oto’s dead wife had been an omega too. I have not seen an alpha/alpha relationship so maybe the other twin will have one.

    jungkookie_forever May 6, 2020 7:40 pm
    Oh that's cool! I wonder if it'll be an alphaxalpha relationship PerishedThought

    Smh

    PerishedThought May 7, 2020 7:52 am
    No. Oto is an omega so alpha/omega relationship with the one twin. Oto’s dead wife had been an omega too. I have not seen an alpha/alpha relationship so maybe the other twin will have one. BUBBA-Manga

    Yea I know. I saw someone else comment that the author might do an alphaxalpha relationship. Especially since 1. It hasnt been shown before in this manga. & 2. Is it as taboo as an omega pair or an alphaxomega pair?

    PerishedThought May 7, 2020 7:52 am
    BUBBA-Manga May 7, 2020 11:09 am
    Yea I know. I saw someone else comment that the author might do an alphaxalpha relationship. Especially since 1. It hasnt been shown before in this manga. & 2. Is it as taboo as an omega pair or an alphaxom... PerishedThought

    Yeah. That would be great since in this omegaverse anyone could get pregnant too. Or at least I think they can.

    I always love the little babies.

    PerishedThought May 7, 2020 6:15 pm
    Yeah. That would be great since in this omegaverse anyone could get pregnant too. Or at least I think they can. I always love the little babies. BUBBA-Manga

    Omgg ikr! this is why I like pure omegaverse lol. It also makes me wonder why there's taboo in their society when every sub gender class can get pregnant? It seems odd. Rooting for more babies running around in the future

    BUBBA-Manga May 8, 2020 11:04 am
    Omgg ikr! this is why I like pure omegaverse lol. It also makes me wonder why there's taboo in their society when every sub gender class can get pregnant? It seems odd. Rooting for more babies running around i... PerishedThought

    Maybe they thought of it as people being against anything different since ABO would not have been the original normal for everyone (as well as gay relationships) so it gives the romance a level of drama and you get two people trying to overcome adversity and going against the odds to be together.

PerishedThought May 6, 2020 9:29 am

Thank you for ur work Hobimynn

PerishedThought May 4, 2020 11:45 pm

I tried the hand pressure thing to stay awake. I was like 'How can this work?'
I tried it and I think I did it wrong because it hurt when I did it. Enough where I shouted from the shock of pain. well at least I'm wide awake now.

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