"What if I attacked you?" UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH. I hate this trope. You are not being a good person or charming by saying you could rape someone if you wanted to.
Well sure but she attacked him first
He meant that if she kissed him and he kissed her back and kept on going ..
He was trying to make her conscious of how serious her actions are, like he wouldn't do that but some other guy might, he isn't trying to be charming rather than teach her
Yeah, I know, it's just mega cringe. Not as much as Ao Haru Ride or True Beauty, but cringe nonetheless.
How dare you lol
Ao Haru Ride is one of the cringiest, cliched and sexist pieces of trash I have ever had the displeasure of viewing lol.
Lol still how dare you
To each their own anyway
However Im guessing you're one of those who see a flaw in everything, always looking for sexism and whatever in everything - even if it's something reflects a certain group of people or society without the intent of being sexist.. clichéd and cringey ? it WAS a typical shoujo I admit it, but you obviously missed the MAIN messages the author was trying to deliver, but I wouldn't expect that of someone who - again - looks for a flaw in everything :)
Hahaha I died
How did I not see the last part of this until now? Didn’t notice the expand part and thought you left it on an appropriate, civilized note. That’s my bad.
Yes, I think it’s a shit anime, so I must be looking for flaws in everything. Damn feminists and there... not liking rape culture and wanting decent female representation? Lemme leave you an excerpt:
"Here is a list of some of the clichés used in this anime. There are two girls that are just so pretty that the guys all love them and as a result the girls all hate them. Petty love triangles. Girl falls for a guy because he shows basic human decency. Girl falls for the guy even though he's a huge ass that emotionally, physically, and verbally abuses her. Overprotective love interest. Long lost love. Girl stalking the guy she likes. Other annoying crap."
So no, I’m not the only person who thinks that series is shit, and that review event complains about the rape bit, too.
I actually really like this manga? I just had a critique and shared it, but it appears that you’re one of those people who’ll rip others down for not worshipping stuff you like. Yeah, Ao Haru Ride is overrated and poorly written. So is Naruto. So are a million other series with a cult like backing. Not everyone’s going to like what you like. Some people are going to have criticisms. Some people are going to love it AND have criticisms because they can acknowledge great pieces of work can have issues within them. Some of my absolute favorite series have issues in them. Because nothing is perfect. You sound like a Steven Universe fan. "Someone does not worship my series? Go on the attack!"
Ayyy sorry I'm not gonna read a wall of text my brain is tired lol
Let's be friends you like what you like
And I like what I do
I'm curious though how old are you?
you’re so real for this, i first watched it when i was 10 and now i have issues and till this day i still dislike it
Yeah my friend wrote a giant review on MAL on why it was trash and I agree 100%. Can link it if you’re interested. It’s not a popular opinion, but it’s nice that many agree. And it’s not just about the sexism. Even without that it’s just like… oh wow, a girl who’s so beautiful that every other girl is jealous and hates her, a dumb love triangle, a girl who falls for a guy after he shows her basic human decency, a male lead who treats the female lead like trash but for some reason she continues to like him. This writing is absolutely A-tier and has also never been done before. As for the sexism, more than anything else, for me it was mainly the fake-out rape scene. Pins her to the ground and is like, “Be careful with men I could assault you if I wanted.” Oh wow, what a gentleman for not raping her and she’s like, “omg he’s so kinda” like I woulda pepper sprayed that motherfucker so bad lmao
“You look for sexism in everything since you think pretending you’re going to rape a woman is harmful.” If that’s what it means I am, then I’ll take that label lol
I know I'm not supposed to think so deeply about it, but I dislike that Melissa had to earn Yuri's favor for Yuri to tell the prince, "Hey, you're with someone, so don't flirt with me. That's messed up."
yeah but i think there's more to it. i haven't read spoilers so i don't know what exactly is the shadow that speaks to yuri about following the plot, or just how many times she must've gone through the typical cycle of the story to have given up so much at that point, but it must've been too many to count. it's like being put in a groundhog day situation, where you just relive the same day over and over, except it's probably her whole life or a large section of it, over and over and she had resigned herself to being hopeless and with terrible men surrounding her for eternity on loop. melissa until our mc comes in, is a terrible person to yuri so some changes in this one storyline would still make it hard to change her perspective on what must have been dozens of occurrences of melissa being a terrible person to yuri.
I don't know about that theory, but looking at the chapter I'm on, I'm wondering if Yuri didn't actually have a choice. She seemed to acknowledge what she had done to Melissa in canon was pretty shitty.
Melissa didn't have to earn her favor for her to do that, if you go back to the earlier chapter you'll see that the very first time that the Prince started flirting with with Yuri, her reaction was "What the f is the clown doing". She has always hated his advances, but he's also the crown prince of the kingdom so she could only be but so dismissive of him outwardly. Given the fact that she and her family couldn't even afford to be rude to a wealthy merchant like Peacock Melody, how rude do you think she could get away with being to the future ruler of their kingdom?
Also it's true that Yuri didn't have a choice. She's been reliving the story over and over again and hates all the MLs, but no matter how much she struggles against the story, she can never change anything and things always happen the same. That's why she has such dead eyes thinking about it, because at this point she's gone through it so many times that she's given up all hope. Except this time, because of our Melissa, things are different.
Yeah, I saw that. She had that reaction AFTER Melissa earned her favor. There was no indication that was the first time around. In fact, since she’s relived this story, I wouldn’t be surprised if she willingly did it the first time around.
It did NOT happen after. Melissa "earned her favor" as you put it and became friends with Yuri after rescuing Yuri from the bandits and then fighting with Peacock. Their ONLY interaction before that was when Melissa (and Ian) ran into her in the garden at the ball where they spoke literally one line to each other. Yuri thinking about what a clown the Prince is shown in flash back in Chapter 27, which is the chapter right after Melissa saves Yuri.
Yes. By "after" I mean not the original time of Yuri's however-many groundhog days. Earning her favor I meant being nice to her. Calling her beautiful. THEN Yuri rejected him, because Melissa was nice to her.
Does he love her for who she is or who she reincarnated from? I stopped reading for a while cuz I was so sad that it was the latter. That's not her.
from what i know he loved her from the very beginning but they keep becoming rivals to enemy's, then when they reincorporated this time its working out, i guesse
i meant reincarnated
Yeah, the goddess her. I mean does he love the current her? They aren’t the same.
i know he still loves her but i think he's falling more because his expectations of her is beyond in this reincernation. but your right they aren't the same as before.
How does Mildred even know that she's in Cinderella? There's no proof except a similar backstory. What makes her so sure?
Isn't it because she was reading the book before her death? So she immediately recognized which story she was in
I guess if she were reading a version where the characters all had those names, it'd make sense.
I dont think so? It just stated that there is a famous fairytale called cinderella, and her situation looks like cinderella fairytale, which make her asssumed that she is inside cinderella world? I dont think it is the real cinderella world, imo she just assumed it as cinderella world because of the similar situation?
Agree with you. I think she just assume her situation inside cinderella story because of some coincidences. But it is not the actual cinderella story
I'd like more stories like this. I look like Iris, and I grew up seeing things like the evil step-sisters with big noses and it's drilled into your head "this is undesirable". Here it's shown that yeah, maybe you're not a model, but you're still pretty and you can still be desirable. Might've not spent $8,000 on a new nose if I'd grown up with things like this instead.
What about the chapter where he kissed him and pictured another man? Does he like him for real now or is he still using him?
At point I don't know I honestly think that I smell cotton candy but no my little brother burned a plate while making macaroni and he's getting screamed at but for real i honestly hope that yuhyeon likes him ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
I'm really confused as to why people are hopping on this time leap theory. The only thing that suggests that it is even remotely possible is him meeting his wife at the same spot. Highly unlikely. No indications of a time leap. Plus, this author doesn't do tragedies, and there are no sci-fi or tragedy tags for this manga on Baka manga and the preview chapters tweeted by the author have them acting couplely with her the same age and him as his current age. Also a male love rival. And no one would recover from the shock of seeing their dead wife alive again that quickly. She also has an entire family, life, etc. that fit in perfectly to the current time.
He's just a dude with a dead wife to add to the drama of the story.
I cannot remember the last time I hated a character as much as I hate the mother in this manga.
But one thing that is really confusing me is they keep making it sound like he raped her or something? I did not get that at all from the flashback? It seemed totally consensual?
And the end where they're like, surprised he chose his daughter? First of all, doesn't mean he can't have both, secondly, no SHIT his daughter is going to be the absolute most important thing in his life.