I read the original and I'm mad because DonghyukxKyungsoo got this realistic mess. I'm okay with that if that's the theme. Realism. But YulexKyungsoo is basically a happy ending with Yule and that makes me so mad because that doesn't even make sense.
I think it's funny that when ukes have big flaws, people harp on and on but when it's semes, people let it pass really easily.
Anyway, I'm not gonna be mad at Hyesung for being upfront, selfish, and transparent. He isn't lying and he has his reasons. Why do you expect that a dude like him who was constantly abused and picked on growing up would be nice? Why would a person who has had all of one friend to rely on and no familial support to handle people well? He has pretty reasonable trust issues. Heck, his dad dumbed him down out of spite, his mom left, no education, no good job experience, he's Korean 20(so really 18 or 19), and he got knocked up by a dude who he didn't even know like that because he went into heat because he JUST became a fertile omega.
Like, damn. Ease up a little bit.
I agree with your first statement-- take bj alex for example. Hes literally a big asshole yet people still lick his balls because hes hot af AND the seme so hes somehow permitted to act like shit but throw an uke with the same attitude?
"WHAT A FUCKING SLUT OMG BITCH!!1 HOW DARE AUTHOR CREATE A CHARACTER LIKE THIS SO UNCREATIVE SUCCS OMG I HOPE THIS BITCH DIES"
Yep, you're right all the way.
I'm sorry to say that's not true AT ALL. I've been on the BJ Alex page and I can attest that Alex was treated almost as badly as Hye sung. And Alex deserved it in a way for being an asshole to DG. Go back and read the comments, 99 out of 100 had people cursing Alex and asking DG to get a new guy. Please don't comment randomly without proof.
Alex's backstory will change people's opinion just like Hye Sung's will. It's not about semes and ukes at all. It's about the attitude of the characters.
Yeah, after almost 30 chapters the comments you're talking finally started appearing, people are finally realizing how toxic alex really is so im kind of happy with that, but if you read the earlier comments you'd see the types of people and im not only saying this bj alex most asswipe semes are being treated the same way.
No offense though i love bj alex but its the truth.
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So I get why it just wanted to quickly wrap up the whole mess with Ichimaru without being too serious but I didn't like it.
Haruto shouldn't be made to take part of the blame because he didn't understand or notice Ichimaru's feelings for him. Especially when Ichimaru wasn't really completely upfront with his feelings until after he confirmed that Haruto was in a happy, fulfilling, committed relationship. I can look pass him being pissing in high school because he might not have known how to handle being gay and being rejected in one swoop. As an adult though? Naw. He didn't deserve an apology and his own apology was sh*t.
I know, right? Totally agree. I don't like Ichimaru one bit. His unrequited love would have been sad if he wasn't such a dick. And after being awful and forcing a kiss on haruto everyone is quick to comfort him and shift the blame to poor haruto. "oh, haruto must have said something to make you mad, it's ok". What the hell? Haruto has 0 blame in that situation. Honestly, izumi's punch was so satisfying, he deserved it. He deserved an apology after saying such shitty things about haruto and his happy relationship just because haruto didn't magically notice his feelings before? I don't think so, buddy.
You know, the dialogue for this pretty messy. Not in a "the translator could be better" kind of way but in a "This mangaka needs a new editor" kind of way.
Those of you who can't read the raws are missing out because the translator isn't doing all of the chapters.
U got links for the raws??
they will continue to translate right?? i've bought the raws but i need the translations forreal
There is no translator. The chapters uploaded on mangago are just screenshots taken from the official English translation. The first three chapters of season 2 are already out on Lezhin.
So don't worry. You don't have to rely on fan-translations, you just have to wait until somebody uploads the rest of the chapters.
ahh thanks so much <3. the raws are FIRE
You can buy chapters from Lezhin
I don't know how I want this to end because well, I don't want any of them together? Clearly, something wasn't right in their relationship.
Arata has issues that he needs to work out because doing that is not a normal response to being cheated on. It was definitely overkill. Natsuki has a lot of things to work out. He clearly has strong issues with abandonment and self fulfillment. Hiroyuki got caught up in this mess and he did nothing wrong but he's gonna be pretty wrecked by this.
Don't know how this is supposed to play out tbh.
I mean, who could decide to live underwater at the drop of a hat though? I'd need some questions answered first. Will you give me the power to breath underwater? Can you kiss under water? Will I continue with an average human lifespan? Can I come back up from time to time? Inquiring minds want to know.
LOL. Right? Seriously, that's a huge decision to make. Plus, that stupid fox has no right to butt in where he doesn't belong. Who is he to demand answers to such an important life changing question.
Honestly, I feel like it's probably too late now. Some people might take you back if you cheat once and apologize. His wife is really only taking him back because she toed the line of cheating AFTER him and he got angry. But at least his wife only "cheated" when she thought that they were getting divorced. And she didn't even go all the way because she felt bad.
Junpei though... keeping calls with the person who he cheated with. Having secret conversations. Lying to your wife about what you are doing, when you know you shouldn't even be doing it.
TBH, Junpei was never even mad enough about Rina's actions either. She called your house once and she told your child that she was her future mommy. She hired someone to trick your wife. Even put your wife's nudes up. You should be so angry that you can't be in the same room alone with her.
junpei should have left her in the snow after every chapter i get pissed... only my frustration is bringing me here every week
AGREE. AGREE i totally agree.
After you have read a few of the previous chapter it makes you go......ARRGHHHH....NOOO...DIE YYOU FRAUD OF A CHEATING MOTHER.
But after ch 83. Wheeewwww..........everythings gonna be alright, only thing left is to kill that hateful woman.
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Whoooooooo.........that felt nice
AGREE. AGREE i totally agree.
After you have read a few of the previous chapter it makes you go......ARRGHHHH....NOOO...DIE YYOU FRAUD OF A CHEATING MOTHER.
But after ch 83. Wheeewwww..........everythings gonna be alright, only thing left is to kill that hateful woman.
(╬￣皿￣)
Whoooooooo.........that felt nice
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If you hate Siwon and the story then drop it. I like him and Jinha. I like how the story is going, it's actually surprising. All you want to do is call Siwon stupid because he was nice to a dude when he didn't know that dude was evil because his boyfriend didn't tell him and that he was upset that he was outed. Literally the ONLY problem people have with him at this point and both are 100% reasonable. Meanwhile, Siwon literally went back in time to save Jinha. That alone should be enough to at least think about things from his pov.
But I guess you all blindly listen to people when they tell you to stay away from someone and don't give you a reason. If you were outed, you'd totally be cool as a cucumber about it.
My main problem with all of the complaints is that they don't go both ways. Jinha has caused just as much problems, if not more, that Siwon. The biggest problem in the series is the Chinese dude and that would have been fixed if he had just said, "That's him" on the spot.
I'm happy I finally found someone who thinks more openly. So many people here only pick one moment and decides from there. They ignore the whole story and characters' real feelings.
Thank you, people always blame everything on Siwon and act as if Jinha is a saint which he is not he made huge mistakes
overgeneralizing, most or at least half blame it on everyone but donghyun. and it should be that way lol
Lol you think anyone cares about your opinion? If you hate the comments then stop reading them. You won't right? Similarly, people won't drop this manhwa coz they hate Siwon.
.... i would give you an agreeable statement but I sadly can't cause Siwon clearly knew who the fuck Ran Xu or whatever his name is was cause Jinha told him when he was finally able to get a hold of it and Siwon STILL chose to associate with the asshole.
Clearly you're tunnel visioned cause Jinha tried to explain to him multiple times after confirming who he thought it was. Also Siwon jumps to conclusions and never lets Jinha speak when Jinha goes to explain, he runs away and expect Jinha to apologize when Siwon is the one who should be appologizing for budding into someone speaking and not letting them speak. Siwon refuses to tell Jinha how he feels yet expect Jinha to know that he's special to him? The only good thing Siwon ever did for Jinha was save him, literally. That was the only time he showed he cared, other than that all he does is insult him. Idk how some of you don't realize that. At first yeah Jinha did make mistakes and should have told Siwon certain things, but at the same time he had his reasons to hold back and wait a little more instead of jumping down someone's throat. Yes in the beginning he was mean to Siwon cause Siwon didn't have memory and you can't expect someone to remember something when they were ungodly intoxicated. But that's it. Jinha has protected and supported Siwon so so many times, even anonymously and Siwon still treated him like garbage.
Exactly!
This^
@Terriyaki0212 and @Youraedthiswrogn (ngl i fell for your name omg). ThaNK YOU <3
so glad,so glad that you said it, its like people are not even trying to look at siwons parts of the story, there just skimming through it
He did not treat him like garbage. And it seems like you might have tunnel vision because after Siwon learned that Seonyun was Xuan run in ch 57, he had limited contact with the dude. First time, to ask why he was targeted. A second time was in ch 59, where Seonyun saved him from homophobes(but he out Siwon, so it was equally his fault that it happened) and confessed but Siwon told him to kick rocks. And the third time in ch 60, where he only gave him the time of day because he thought the dude was going to tell him something important related to Kang Jinha. it's not like he was just ignoring the fact that the guy is bad news.
And in ch 50, Siwon literally asked Jinha what reason he had for acting how was towards Seonyun and Jinha was silent and then followed it up with "anyways, he's not who you think he is." Siwon didn't cut him off. He just didn't take the time to explain it and in the end, Seonyun still did what Jinha was afraid of so it was for nothing. Now, can I understand Jinha's actions? Yes. But I can also understand Siwon's. I'm not gonna take your word against someone without a reason. No would should and it was unreasonable to ask that of Siwon. And back when Donghyun got kidnapped, Jinha threw a fit because Siwon was more concerned about finding his friend than making out. Despite all of their ups and downs, they've done a lot of simple dating stuff. That should be fine, if Jinha has done more stuff for Siwon, it's mostly because he's rich. But all they have done outside of the drama is study, go out to eat, have drinks and make out. Normal date stuff. They have mutual problems but that's normal. Siwon's worse thing was yelling at him after being outed and being unsure of their relationship and that should be understandable considering the circumstances.
thank you typing this, i would of but my hand hurts lol
You just gave 3 instances where Siwon interacted with him despite the warningswhile saying we have tunnel vision and that he avoided him. -claps-
Read chapters 10-19 for various examples of Siwon jumping to the conclusion that Jinha sexually assaulted him the night he got drunk, not really letting him explain (he literally says he didn't do it, but Siwon just keeps acting under the misunderstanding that he did do it) ane treats Jinha like garbage before finding out he is the cause of Jinha's behavior and not being able to say anything. Its a cycle, this happens the entire first season, where were you guys? I'm not interested in arguing with you that "Siwon didn't treat Jinha like shit", he clearly did.
you are forgetting that jinha has made assumptions about siwon a bunch of times with out hearing him out sooo, and jinha has treated siwon badly more than once, he isint a saint, i mean how are you gonna get mad at someone for not remembering you when you had a name change.
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for starters ch5 the first one to assume things is jinha and he does more of this in more chapters, also siwon isint wrong about the retreat situation. he was drunk, it dousint matter if he made the first move he was completly drunk and jinha went with it , you dont mess with a drunk person just because they started it , they are drunk, thats not true consent. you know what im done playing with you i can already tell that even if i cite everything your not gonna listen. just re read the comic yourself.
Actually, if you read chapter 1 and 2 it's Siwon who starts assuming Jinha is after him because Dongyhun says he might be gay. The rest is on the assumption that "all this is happening because Jinha is gay and wants my ass", it ends up with Siwon assuming Jinha sexually assaulted him 3 years ago at the freshman retreat before Jinha tells him that he's wrong, the dreams aren't because he's a pervert that "is after him", they're because he wants Siwon in his life, that it was Siwon who kissed HIM 3 years ago AND that the reason he wants him in his life is because he is actually Kang Jun.
Also, he was justified, like he always is, in assuming Siwon was leeching credits there. Jinha overheard Siwon agree with Dongyhun that "gays are disgusting" and they had talked about how "Siwon is avoiding him", he is under the impression that Siwon doesn't like him and he says he's had people leech project credits before. You're done arguing because this is the only scene that looks remotely like Jinha is at fault, you can't find anymore, and even this one has a LOT of hidden context.
I'll take this as a victory, hopefully you learned from your fruitless efforts to find scenes where Jinha is being an asshole without Siwon being the direct cause and will actually read and realize that AT LEAST 95% of the misunderstandings these two go through is because Siwon assumes things and hurts Jinha.
you really need to re read it your self and he only agreed on it being disgusting because he didint want to lose his friend because that happens, you can tell by his face
oh and guess what being drunk isint consent
That doesn't matter... Jinha didn't know that, the point i'm making is that Jinha was hurt when he overheard it and it effected how harsh his response was to Siwon falling asleep during the project. Also, "consent"? For what? He didn't rape him... He got swept along and just kissed him back and licked his nipple... Sure Siwon drunkenly kissing him wouldn't have permitted sex, but a kiss BACK and licking his nipple while Siwon is acting LIKE THAT?? And he clearly was swept along by Siwon, he even says "why am i doing this? Siwon is my friend". Read ch 30 pgs 12-31. The scene lasts like 2 seconds and he stops when Siwon passes out. He was swept along by Siwon for a few seconds and then took him home when he regained his thoughts.
i cant with you, you really need to re read it your self and besides ch 23 siwon trys to have a convocation with him but leaves. and ch 26 siwon trys to warn him but doesint listen. at the top of my head the chapter that started this all, ch 58
im not going any farther this comic is long. you wanna talk about me but your argument is siwon assuming jinha rapeing him, theres nothing wrong with him thinking that and hes not a bad person for thinking so. the first thing he saw that night was jinha and him making out, its normal to think that. and btw consent doesint only have to do with actual sex, its any sexual act. so what if he stopped when siwon passed out, if he didint they might have kept going. i dont want to do this anymore, im done. rereading this is just makeing me not like like jinha again because he was really crappy, and i can already tell know matter what your just going to keep blaming and hateing siwon, while ignoring jinhas falut, so this is just pointless. goodbye
You have tunnel vision because you are trying to make it sound like Siwon learned about him but then went "F*ck it, let's go hang out". OP said that he was choosing to associate with him afterwards and he wasn't. To associate with someone means to keep company aka spending time and he wasn't doing that. He literally had small connect with the dude and only when the dude sought HIM out. Now to INTERACT, your words, with someone means something else but if you are saying that Siwon is bad because he simply said stuff to him afterwards, regardless of the fact that he only yelled at the the dude or told him to leave him alone, then you are being downright unreasonable.
SO the context behind Jinha actions matter but Siwon's don't? Interesting. It's almost like you have tunnel vision. Gurl bye. (●'◡'●)ﾉ
Your argument here is literally semantics, you're trying to pick apart the wording.
My point, as i've said literally this entire time, is that Siwon is ALWAYS at fault in one way or another. Even in the instances where it looks like he has a justifiable reason for his actions it's always revealed shortly after that Siwon did/said something that caused it all, he just doesn't know it till he finds out and it always nullifies his justification.
This isn't the case with Jinha, which is why his reasons matter, his are always justified and don't get nullified later. Don't blame me, the author Waje is the one to tell the story like this, in favor of Jinha. Siwon's "thing" is clearly supposed to be that he's cute/child-like, i think this is why. A child is almost never in the right.
I'd definitely read a story about Oomaeda. Seems like his life would be kind of comedic and you know he'd try really hard for the one that he loves. Plus you know he'd never cheat and he'd never have any issues with communicating. He'd just dress oddly for things. Seems like he'd be like Aki from Honto Yajuu if Aki were a seme.