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LMAOOOO

Meant to downvote. This blatant sexualisation is not art btw. There are naked figures in art and in many museums but it’s not a vessel for pornography like it’s depicted here. I think the author made that clear enough with the reaction of the main character. Plus it’s likely they’re both endgame vs the old creep.

It was a joke first. Second ,Art is subjective, you can add pornographic themes to it. What matters is if the muse was comfortable. Then again,there have been muses in saw art that were uncomfortable (ex.little dancer of fourteen years). Also I don't think the Mc gets to be this judgmental about the boss decisions. They barely know each other.

Ok. By definition art excludes pornography, they have nothing to do with each other. Art is never sexually explicit. Whether the muse is comfortable or not doesn’t matter. The “work” of the old man mainly depict cut off body parts with bondage elements and scenes of rape, not people. I think the love interest knows what the MC wants and has been stringing him along for a while now. They’re not officially in a relationship but it’s clear that’s where it’s headed. His reaction is expected for someone who’s developing romantic feelings towards his love interest. Now is it fair to yeseung ? Maybe not but I guess we’ll see in future chapters if he cares that MC is seemingly the possessive type…

sorry but you dont know what your talking about. the idea that art by definition excludes pornography is simply factually untrue. i literally study art history and its well known that many classic art pieces from the renaissance for example would have functioned as a vehicle for pleasure. even in the modern era there were artists who are revered today who also drew and painted what was considered porn back then. this is simply an ahistorical analysis. u can have your opinion about the art depicted here but that doesn't mean it wouldnt be considered art in the real world

Well I actually have a history of art degree, class of 2023 from Europe’s biggest university. Maybe you need to talk to your teachers ? There is not a single art current that is pornography. I’m waiting for you to quote or cite an actual painting or statue created specifically for sexual arousal or to sexually stimulate the viewers. From the renaissance since that’s the era you specified. Again it’s the very /definitions/ of Art and pornography that opposes one another. It doesn’t get any simpler. If that were true then pornographic movies would be celebrated at the oscars like actual cinematic masterpieces, yet they aren’t. Just like the dude in this manhwa thinks whatever pornographic object he creates is art doesn’t make it so. The birth of Venus by Botticelli was not made so people could masturbate to it, neither was Courbet’s Origine du monde… In Europe we also do not view nudity as inherently sexual so maybe that’s where you got confused… Oh and there are no bdsm sculptures / pornographic paintings) in reputable museums ( Not even at the Uffizi Gallery - you know, which has the largest collection of renaissance art - which I’ve actually been to) despite them existing so it’s not just in the Manhwa in real life too it’s not considered art.

look im not about to write an essay on pornographic art in the comments of a comic on mangago lmao. it is interesting to me tho that someone who has studied art history seems to have such a rigid definition of what art is. idk what u were taught but ive always been taught there is no real singular definition of what is and isnt art that is universally accepted. also i know nudity is not inherently sexual obviously. but u also seem to have a very eurocentric view of art and art history because ive literally been to museums in japan for example showcasing pornographic prints from the edo period. yes those were prints the meant to be consumed for sexual pleasure. its also weird to me that u have such a rigid view of art and porn as separate given the fact that u seem to be enjoying a whole lot of pornographic comics . would u say that these comics arent art? cuz i would argue they are definitely a form of art

I do agree with your views on art

Write an essay if you will, it’s surprising a university student cannot fathom reading or writing 2 paragraphs. Anyway, you haven’t given me a single example of pornographic art from Renaissance. Pornography is just a tool to stimulate arousal and a tool could never be classified as a work of art. Would you say a screwdriver is a work of art? You can use screwdrivers in an artwork for example an intricate sculpture, but alone it doesn’t mean shit. Again, real art has no utility, the only exception being inspiration. Duh I would have a rigid definition of Art when you’re from countries that have contributed the most to humanity in terms of art, you grow attached to fine arts and find the base stuff laughable. Again in the art world some stuff is respected and the rest is discarded. A child may consider their colouring book art but it doesn’t make it so. Anyone can call anything art but when you’ve actually studied it and earn a degree you become an authority on the subject. Yes in Japan but ask yourself why they don’t make the international scene like the Mona Lisa ? Why aren’t they as famous and acclaimed as the Great wave ? Or Fuji ? Are these artists even acknowledged by their peers ? So because I enjoy it, it has to be art ? I enjoy eating, is eating an art ? These comics are illustrations. Illustrated stories. Matter of fact, oftentimes the illustrator and the writer aren’t the same. That’s not to say it doesn’t take effort or it isn’t pretty but what freedom is there ? Again I can only respect fine art as art, but you seem to hold popular craft, decorations and entertainment to the same degree, so I guess we’ll just agree to disagree.. Hopefully you’ve learned something..

Firstly, I would just like to say this a manga website and comment section of a webtoon which is clearly just a smut. You are replying back to a comment which is clearly a joke that the OP just thought would be cute to comment.

Art can be subjective. I believe it changed with time and era. You've said there are no pornographic art, at least not in "famous" museums. Pornographic materials by definition just means explicit depiction of sexual activity. I believe there are quite handful of Renaissance paintings which have that? While I am not well versed in art, I believe leda and swan also has a Renaissance painting? Quite a vulgar painting with beastiality depicted, which is pornographic by definition. Would you not consider that an art? Even the original art prior to the Renaissance version I think while destroyed there are copies of it somewhere in some museum, revered as art depicting the greek.gods.

Or Dali's painting literally called "the great masturbator" explicit sexual theme yet again.

Erotic theme and explicit material is quite a common theme in a lot of art through our history, be it a random vase with engravings or prints or paintings.

Labelling something as art or not depends on how you as an individual define what art is. You've also said why are those explicit eastern centric art not as famous and acclaimed, which I find quite funny. How do you know they aren't? Perhaps those are acclaimed in that genre of art? I don't believe it's been written anywhere that something needs to be acclaimed in order to be called an art? Eastern erotic themed art were a big deal from what I can see and a lot of collectors as well perhaps not many know it like they know the great waves. But by that logic it would be like you saying a not so popular song from a Japanese artist isn't so well known compared to.. Taylor Swift and so you've concluded that Japanese song isn't a song?

You are ofcourse more than entitled to have that opinion.

But I find it
1. Quite elitist that you are saying having a degree gives you the authority. Having a degree isn't everything.
2. You are being unbelievably condescending towards the OP for no reason whatsoever? Every single point you've made could have been said in a nicer way.

I believe you are in the wrong place to act hoigty toyty about art and looking down on people. Perhaps an art community/ among your own peers would be a better outlet for you.

A comment section for a story about a guy with a bat for dick trynna fuck someone is probs not it

Ted talk over x

Firstly, I would just like to say this a manga website and comment section of a webtoon which is clearly just a smut. You are replying back to a comment which is clearly a joke that the OP just thought would be cute to comment.

Art can be subjective. I believe it changed with time and era. You've said there are no pornographic art, at least not in "famous" museums. Pornographic materials by definition just means explicit depiction of sexual activity. I believe there are quite handful of Renaissance paintings which have that? While I am not well versed in art, I believe leda and swan also has a Renaissance painting? Quite a vulgar painting with beastiality depicted, which is pornographic by definition. Would you not consider that an art? Even the original art prior to the Renaissance version I think while destroyed there are copies of it somewhere in some museum, revered as art depicting the greek gods.

Or Dali's painting literally called "the great masturbator" explicit sexual theme yet again.

Erotic theme and explicit material is quite a common theme in a lot of art through our history, be it a random vase with engravings or prints or paintings.

Labelling something as art or not depends on how you as an individual define what art is. You've also said why are those explicit eastern centric art not as famous and acclaimed, which I find quite funny. How do you know they aren't? Perhaps those are acclaimed in that genre of art? I don't believe it's been written anywhere that something needs to be acclaimed in order to be called an art? Eastern erotic themed art were a big deal from what I can see and a lot of collectors as well perhaps not many know it like they know the great waves. But by that logic it would be like you saying a not so popular song from a Japanese artist isn't so well known compared to.. Taylor Swift and so you've concluded that Japanese song isn't a song?

Or Dali's painting literally called "the great masturbator" explicit sexual theme yet again.

Erotic theme and explicit material is quite a common theme in a lot of art through our history, be it a random vase with engravings or prints or paintings.

Labelling something as art or not depends on how you as an individual define what art is. You've also said why are those explicit eastern centric art not as famous and acclaimed, which I find quite funny. How do you know they aren't? Perhaps those are acclaimed in that genre of art? I don't believe it's been written anywhere that something needs to be acclaimed in order to be called an art?

Or Dali's painting literally called "the great masturbator" explicit sexual theme yet again.
Erotic theme and explicit material is quite a common theme in a lot of art through our history, be it a random vase with engravings or prints or paintings.
Labelling something as art or not depends on how you as an individual define what art is. You've also said why are those explicit eastern centric art not as famous and acclaimed, which I find quite funny. How do you know they aren't? Perhaps those are acclaimed in that genre of art? I don't believe it's been written anywhere that something needs to be acclaimed in order to be called an art?

Eastern erotic themed art were a big deal from what I can see and a lot of collectors as well perhaps not many know it like they know the great waves. But by that logic it would be like you saying a not so popular song from a Japanese artist isn't so well known compared to.. Taylor Swift and so you've concluded that Japanese song isn't a song?

You are ofcourse more than entitled to have that opinion.

But I find it
1. Quite elitist that you are saying having a degree gives you the authority. Having a degree isn't everything.
2. You are being unbelievably condescending towards the OP for no reason whatsoever? Every single point you've made could have been said in a nicer way.

I believe you are in the wrong place to act hoigty toyty about art and looking down on people. Perhaps an art community/ among your own peers would be a better outlet for you.

A comment section for a story about a guy with a bat for dick trynna fuck someone is probs not it

Ted talk over x

And yet here you are. You just couldn’t resist commenting on a done topic could you ?? If you took out your hands from your panties perhaps you could’ve written this whole thing in a single comment but well… I’m not gonna dignify your pathetic attempts at a rebuttal with a response. I’ll just address your last three points. Yes having a degree makes me an expert authority. Be mad about it, it doesn’t change that fact. I am not even condescending you just can’t take people having opposite views. You have been coddled and lied to, too much, I know people are talking behind your back. This is real life, people disagree and nobody called anyone out of their name. Do I give a fuck about being nice ? People overly concerned with being nice like you are just hypocrites. I saw a comment I disagreed with and responded you act like I have personal beef with the commenter. If you can’t take people disagreeing (not even with you but with each other, how embarrassing to not know how to read the room to this extent…) then you need to stay in your house and only watch YouTube kids. And finally nobody asked you to comment or what you think. Stating facts about art isn’t looking down on anybody but YOU feel so inferior you couldn’t help but make it about yourself. Your opinion is irrelevant Shinchen. I know mommy and daddy didn’t give you any attention (can’t blame them, you’re rather uninteresting), are you happy now that I’ve given you a little bit ?

couldnt have said it better myself

the issue is ur not stating facts about art you stating your opinion about art like its fact. i will say that the fact you seem to value european art over all others tells me all i need to know about you and how pointless this conversation is. also the idea that art cannot be utilitarian is fucking dumb lmao. crafts for example r now widely (finally) being considered art, those r often tools. pottery is considered art, and r often utilitarian. you sound ignorant and dont even know it. the fact of the matter is just because YOU dont know about somthing doesnt mean its not considered important or revered art. clearly you dont know shit about japanese art cuz if u did u wouldnt be saying its not well known. and even if it wasnt well known outside of japan its JAPANESE art why does it need to be recognized in the west for it to be valuable to you? fucking stupid honestly. anyway this convo is dumb so this will be my last reply

Do you have a degree banfi ? Do you even have a high school diploma ? Do you know how the world works ? I think you’re a child banfi. A lying stupid child. Projecting your own ignorance on me is hilarious. I mean what could you do ? We’re not at the same level. Make sure you graduate and with highest honors if you intend to make something of yourself. Yes what I said was facts and not just my opinion. You’re clearly too stupid to understand that just because something is pretty doesn’t make it art. You’d know this if you went to school. You can’t even spell so I don’t even know why I’m replying to you. Yes I don’t know shit about Japanese art when I literally quoted pieces and you gave what examples ? None. You’re talking about prints and renaissance paintings yet when given the opportunity gave zero examples cause you know you’re full of shit. Art is universal so who gives a shit about lines drawn on a map ? You’re sitting here talking why does shit needs to be valuable when artworks are evaluated and sold. When artists need their artwork to sell or starve. When artworks are exposed in galleries for a reason. What do I expect from someone who’d put drawn up internet porn on the same level as a Rembrandt painting. Pigeons truly can’t play chess. Go to sleep banfi.

LMAOOOO u thought u ate ah ha bitches r maaad. yeah sry insulting my intelligence isnt gonna make ur ass any less wrong. no im not a child which is why i dont feel the need to continue this dumb ignorant ass conversation. ur elitist attitude is exactly what makes u incapable of holding other peoples opinions up to ur own and reevaluating ur flawed world view. also i didnt compare porn to rembrandt nor did i say i hold them to the same level, the only one projecting here is u. anywayyy have fun being ignorant in the comment sections of porn comics or whatever lol this is fr my last response to ur dumbass

Yeah didn’t read that. Happy for you though or sorry it happened.

I'm done with stupid character like this ;-;

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You can find it on kaliscan ( ꈍᴗꈍ)

the officials are still on chapter 3 unfortunately

same, the confusion and curiosity is driving me insane cus WHAT is happening???