chocobuun August 3, 2025 2:01 am

I already can’t stand the white haired dude

chocobuun August 3, 2025 1:24 am

Just finished chapter one. This is a new concept. Both the fact that it’s a sequel, the one that traveled in time is a male mc, and the fact that he physically went back in time with the same body he died in. I wonder if this’ll mess things up since he’s not the same age as he should be rn.

Anyways by the looks of it, it’s really sad that the main character’s child ended up having a bad ending.

    chocobuun August 3, 2025 4:50 am

    Also note that he seems to have TIME TRAVELED not regressed. He didn’t die, and was still having the effects of the poison in his body. So it proves his current self simply jumped back in time.

    Morcheeba August 7, 2025 11:10 pm

    There's two necklaces at the same time of the object that should be unique. I'm too stupid to think these implacations through all the way, but wouldn't that mean

    he's also there as his 5yo self?

    Which is like, in theory without consequences, as no one makes that connection apart from that off-hand comment that his name's the same as the crown-princes

chocobuun August 2, 2025 6:26 pm

This story is interesting. It’s got mystery, murder, and even an amnesia plot? I thought it was gonna be a simple story but there’s sooo much going on. As you read, more mystery gets added to the table.

I do wonder why all the guys in the story are hot af lmao. The male mc, the dad of the kid, the murderer on a motorcycle, the gloved dude, etc. Also that murderer dude is too hot lol, I’m so weak- his skinship would’ve won me over.

chocobuun August 2, 2025 7:37 am

Interesting to find out that ML is a virgin. He mainly just let those women touch/kiss him at most but never let them go farther. In a way he dislike their behavior as they treat him like some sort sex doll because of his commoner status, like they can use him whenever. I also realize that ML and FL are similar in the way they’re treated by their family. Both are treated badly by their own family. Though ML wasn’t aware of how FL’s family treated her.

A lot of the people who spoiled on the novel do not describe him as red flag and make it a point that they believe he isn’t one. He’s not exactly green but they compare him to be similar to carcel from that other manhwa. (Not the overall personality, just the beginning part). There was a bunch of info on the series of events in the story but there wasn’t that much detail when it came to the FL and ML getting together. It was a very short summary at that part specifically.

    h03lotofshi October 14, 2025 12:51 pm

    OOOOH THANK GOD HE’S A VIRGIN XJAKZB HAVE U READDD THE NOVEL?? CAN U GIVE ME THE LINK PLS

chocobuun August 2, 2025 5:28 am

I genuinely think this story reached the wrong audience. There’s a bunch of manhwas where the mc is a bottom who is the same situation where he’s stuck in this toxic relationship and can’t get over his complicated feelings while the ml is pushing himself into his life. And everyone supports the mc on those manhwas. But no one can understand it here because they baby the mc and see every character in black and white.

Literally LOOK at Love or Hate fandom and it’s the same dynamic. Yet everyone loves the mc there, understands his struggle, while also gets upset at the love interest that’s aware of his feelings for someone else and still pushes for a relationship.

    joufflues August 11, 2025 2:26 am

    i hate this story so much that im going to go read love or hate just to see if there is or isnt a difference, ill get back to you with results

    joufflues August 11, 2025 2:42 am
    i hate this story so much that im going to go read love or hate just to see if there is or isnt a difference, ill get back to you with results joufflues

    by god that story is boring, i got to chapter 4, so maybe my thoughts arent much but can already tell that that story is a lot more sincere in what its doing that lucky paradise. It doesnt rely on the artist to make shitty facial expressions to keep audiences engaged, and it employs layout techniques that are far more interesting as well... id wager the issue and difference is which side is doing the pushing changes with which pov we get, and having a pov really influences how people interact, take in this story with woojin, when some people got woojins pov in the matter, they instantly switched to having woojin their favorite character. even though hes the same as he was before the snippet of pov. Id also wager part of the issue is that the audience isnt just seeing the characters in black and white, but the story is so poorly written that the audience cannot help but to illude themselves with the idea that the characters could really be as black and white as the author portrays them to be. So while here we have the pushers pov, in that story we have the pushed, and the quality of writing influences it a little too.

    Hyun August 17, 2025 11:48 am

    The ML literally has so many supportive people around him...? Like his brother literally knows damn well his relationship with red haired and ml's brother gave him an advice MULTIPLE TIMES, yet he ignored it. Who would not be fucking pissed.

    chocobuun August 17, 2025 4:05 pm
    The ML literally has so many supportive people around him...? Like his brother literally knows damn well his relationship with red haired and ml's brother gave him an advice MULTIPLE TIMES, yet he ignored it. W... Hyun

    What are you even on about…I’m talking about the READERS IRL who act like this. Did you miss that first sentence: “I think this story reached the wrong audience” which clearly implies who I’m talking about.

    Hyun August 18, 2025 5:18 am
    What are you even on about…I’m talking about the READERS IRL who act like this. Did you miss that first sentence: “I think this story reached the wrong audience” which clearly implies who I’m talking ... chocobuun

    And that's why i said "there's many people are supporting the ML", so why would the the readers here will sympathise with ML knowing his situation...? Like the examples you've given are literally MCs that didn't grow up in a safe environment as this ML. That's why there are different responses in here. We can even say that he actually deserve the "hate" he's getting.

    chocobuun August 18, 2025 5:50 am
    And that's why i said "there's many people are supporting the ML", so why would the the readers here will sympathise with ML knowing his situation...? Like the examples you've given are literally MCs that didn'... Hyun

    This comment section is about readers irl and you’re trying to spin this back to side characters in the story. Didn't grow up in a safe environment?? That was never the point. It was about readers irl having COMPASSION for a person who has feelings for someone for a long time and is conflicted. That’s it. Don’t involve other random arguments for you to further talk about why you don’t like the sunbae. I don’t care and you won’t change my mind. He doesn’t deserve the hate, you’re just one of the readers who love to pick and choose.

    And also wtf are you even on about “mcs that didn’t grow up in a safe environment.” I mentioned ONE example where the mc is in a toxic relationship with his step bro but everyone gave him grace and sided with him. Did you think toxic relationship can only mean abusive relationship? No. A toxic relationship can be emotional only. You should learn more about the topic before joining an argument.

    Hyun August 18, 2025 6:18 am
    This comment section is about readers irl and you’re trying to spin this back to side characters in the story. Didn't grow up in a safe environment?? That was never the point. It was about readers irl having ... chocobuun

    Are you dumb... Or just

    chocobuun August 18, 2025 7:11 am

    Thanks for giving a useless argument and proving you can’t think of a response! It’s cute you blocked me too lmfao. Don’t start arguments with ppl if you don’t even know what you’re talking about and can’t handle a response! And blocking doesn’t work when you’re on MY comment thread LOL
    (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Hyun August 18, 2025 11:28 am
    Thanks for giving a useless argument and proving you can’t think of a response! It’s cute you blocked me too lmfao. Don’t start arguments with ppl if you don’t even know what you’re talking about and ... chocobuun

    My comment didn't load girl , its so embarrassing thats why i blocked you...

    Hyun August 18, 2025 11:42 am
    Thanks for giving a useless argument and proving you can’t think of a response! It’s cute you blocked me too lmfao. Don’t start arguments with ppl if you don’t even know what you’re talking about and ... chocobuun

    Okay let's get this straight then,
    Your point: This story reached the wrong audience/readers, unlike in the other stories whereas MCs with similar story is loved by their fandom even when ML has similar story.

    My point here: There are several reasons why the fandom of this Bl does not like the ML at all. Let me give you SOME examples.
    1. The ML leads the MC thinking they will bloom into something.
    2. He slept with MC, when he still have a sex partner, and he likes his sex partner. He also know that MC likes him.
    3. Just like I said, he knows that he MC likes him, he can literally say "fuck off" to MC but he did not, and that's a nod to my point number 1.
    4. He kept going out with MC; he goes on a date with MC, hang outs with MC, sleep with MC, etc.
    5. In last chapter of the main story, he slept again with the red haired knowing MC IS FUCKING WAITING FOR HIM.
    5.5 HE BETRAYED MC'S TRUST IN THAT SAME CHAPTER I MENTIONED.

    Now give me a reason on how the hate he's getting received are not well deserved.

    And you can literally like him, but don't wonder how the fandom does not like him.

    Hyun August 18, 2025 11:48 am
    Okay let's get this straight then, Your point: This story reached the wrong audience/readers, unlike in the other stories whereas MCs with similar story is loved by their fandom even when ML has similar story.M... Hyun

    I forgot to mention how he have multiple people around that is supporting him; biggest example is the MC's friend, his brother, the red haired's sister, etc. (the safe environment where i was talking about, whereas other MCs lack).

    If you will say that "this MC also has a safe environment growing up, and supportive people around him too! But the fandom still loved him regardless!" It still does not justify the ML's action.

    "B-But...!! Other MLs out there does not get hated even if they done worse...!!" Still does not justify the MLs actions here.

    Hyun August 18, 2025 11:52 am

    Long story short: There are reasons why the FANDOM(majority atleast) does not like the ML. You should know this if you truly read the story.

    Like once again, you can like the ML but, don't fucking wonder if majority of people does not like him.

    Even ML himself knows that he is such douchebag throughout the series.

    chocobuun August 18, 2025 12:44 pm
    Long story short: There are reasons why the FANDOM(majority atleast) does not like the ML. You should know this if you truly read the story. Like once again, you can like the ML but, don't fucking wonder if maj... Hyun

    “Don’t fucking wonder if majority of people does not like him” and who tf are you??? The audacity you have is insane. This was never about shit he did. It’s about FEELINGS. Certain readers like you being unable to comprehend complex emotions and situations. You’re over here trying to convince me of why the sunbae is bad, I don’t give a single flying fuck. My point is yall readers will always pick and choose who you want to understand the feelings of, depending on if it’s the mc. And yall will not understand and try to understand the emotions of a character that isn’t the mc. You are one of those ppl that love one-dimensional perfect characters and can’t handle anything else.

    You’re too busy getting triggered and wanting the sunbae to be hated on, that you’re not even bothering to see the point here. Just look at you. You’re PROVING my point. You’re so focused on trying to list out the reason why ppl should hate him, that you don’t realize you ARE the ppl I’m talking about who don’t want to use their brains and think that characters can be flawed humans. You’re over here treating the mc like he’s a baby angel, when he’s a grown ass man who signed up for this shit and still pursued him to the end. If you wanna stay being dense, be my guest. I’m not here for your debate. Glad to see you got embarrassed at least and realized it. Bye now!

chocobuun August 2, 2025 2:20 am

I honestly just want them to be happy together. I’d say the ending is bitter sweet. Still kinda an open ending and it basically looks like a cycle will be repeated. At the very least I’m glad they’re together even if it’s not the best happy ending it could’ve gotten.

    Lynn August 2, 2025 1:10 pm

    Give me some spoilers

chocobuun August 1, 2025 9:36 pm

Looks like the series is back for part two. Apparently part two of the story is shorter than part one. And it also looks like it’s finally the arc where it’s all wholesome and sweet family moments. The son is going to school now and their second child was born. A daughter named, ivy. Even the situation with Benjamin (the brother) is chill now.

chocobuun August 1, 2025 9:10 am

I knew from the moment I saw those heels, Felix was the baddest btch I’ve ever seen
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Also tell me why I was reading the first chapter and saw the background characters with the uniforms and thought “what if Felix wore that” and the imagination came true right away lmaooo.

chocobuun August 1, 2025 7:27 am

Am I the only one that would be greedy if I were him and would be like: “so can I have two boyfriends?” Cause y’know best of both worlds, I get a pretty bf and a handsome bf. Lmaooo

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Anyways on another note I saw the raws and my opinion is:

I have a feeling both ML and 2nd ML aren’t really “good guys.” ML is self-explanatory. Sure the 2nd lead gives off puppy-type nice guy vibes. But from the raws, personally the 2nd lead comes off as pushy. It’s like he’s also horny 24/7. It doesn’t help that mc seems EXTREMELY naive and easily gives into pleasure. MC literally is happy to have a sleepover with his first friend, laying on the bed on his phone, and 2nd lead over here is getting horny, helping himself to his own desires, and chose to hump him over his clothes reminding me of what a dog does. Then chapter ends with him starting to pull mc’s pants off.
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I KNOW ppl are gonna be mad and be like “author ruined his character!” Or something but I honestly think that’s a black and white way of thinking. People assume 2nd lead is a purely nice guy, and don’t think that a character can have flaws and not be perfectly good. So they can’t accept it when their “angelic/favorite” is “changed” when in actuality, everything about character hasn’t been revealed yet. Anyways pairing an mc that’s both naive and easily succumbs to pleasure with two love interests who know of this fact and use it to their advantage, is bound to be a bad mix. Feels like this is about to be secret relationship or yours to claim pt 2 smh.

    FujoshiMich August 3, 2025 6:04 am

    Yo I literally made a comment about this saying 2nd lead gives me the wrong way and someone said "i was reading too much into it."

    chocobuun August 3, 2025 6:14 am
    Yo I literally made a comment about this saying 2nd lead gives me the wrong way and someone said "i was reading too much into it." FujoshiMich

    Don’t let them silence you!
    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Let’s face it, the 2nd lead has been constantly just dreaming of fcking the MC 24/7. I don’t know how anyone didn’t expect he was the type to love bomb and explode with his affections once he got a “taste.” Now that he got some action with mc once, he thinks he has the green light to do it all the time. It reminds me of those guys who think girls gave them signals and start coming on really strong.

chocobuun August 1, 2025 2:11 am

Alright so my suspicion has been heavily hinted/confirmed. They’re eventually gonna force MC to MATE with his ex mihee to create some ultra being. Typical fan service bull.
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Like others said, I also hate it when a random side character all of a sudden gets op in a single chapter. They really made the ex OP instantly and threw her in there. Rather than having the ex as one of the op antagonist I would’ve rather kept the purple haired chick instead as a supporting villain. Not this nonsense new character. Villains are only intimidating when they’re built up throughout the story. Not when they’re just randomly thrown in later. Honestly if it were me, going by this logic- It’d be smarter to join breeder’s side, gain OP af powers and then run back to the good side, so you can get the benefits.

And ALSO what is it with this author making their female lead characters supposedly be important to the mc/plot but also a damsel in distress?? While also making every other girl the mc has relations with way more OP?? They did this in lilith’s cord and they did it again here. Can we not have an equally op FL to match or does she have to be weaker for the ML to show his heroism?

    Distortion August 1, 2025 1:34 pm

    I 100% agree & it was the same in Lilith cord. The FL are already bad ass in th we e own ways why can't they just leaving them that way on equal footing. I loved the twin blade blonde girl in Lilith cord.

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