
I want to ask something out of curiosity, when people do the deed and the partner says something like the chef, i mean "no, stop, it hurts" things, do they really mean it? So the other person needs to stop if so, right? So why isn't he stopping?

If someone says that in real life, they mean it and the other person should defintely stop because continuing without their consent is rape. Now I haven't read this story, but I've noticed that the word "no" doesn't mean much in yaoi. It think most authors' reasoning is "his mouth says no but his heart says yes" which is stupid. No one can read their partner's mind. No means no, end of discussion

Yes, in real life, unless you are role-playing or have already discussed it beforehand, if your partner tells you to stop, you absolutely 100% should stop every time.
In yaoi, you see a lot of "no~ stop!!" because it is more appealing and sexier to deny pleasure. I can't be feeling this good! It's bad! It will ruin me! I'll get addicted! No one can make me feel like this!~ etc. And it's the fantasy that your sex partner knows more about your body and can make you feel better than you can or thought possible. (Very common fantasy for women or people with vaginas to have, bc there is this pervasive cultural idea that it is hard for women to get off or give pressure too.) This fantasy of a magic man who can w minimal effort make their partner see god during sex is impossible irl. Good sex takes practice and time and work.
This BL is just that, a fantasy! A pushy hot dude who makes you have physically impossible orgasms and the pushiness is so endearing you get over your 10 year unrequited love

Just giving my opinion, dont mind me.
Sex irl, can be like that.
When at first, the partner gets embarass they usually says "No" and make the person stop.
There are times they will use negative words because if they use postive words, they will sound like a slut. Ex. "Yes! Please... Give me more!"
When their personality (not all) is timid, shy, or introverted etc. They use negative words or never say anything at all to hide their embarrasment. They dont want to sound like a whore or a slut...
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Elements of rape are:
1. Offender is a Man;
2. Offender had Carnal knowledge of the
woman (or man); and
3. Such act is Accomplished under ANY of the following circumstances:
a. Through Force, threat or intimidation;
b. When the offended party is Deprived of reason or is otherwise unconscious;
c. By means of fraudulent Machination or grave abuse of authority; or
d. When the offended party is under twelve (12) years of age or is demented, even though none of the above circumstances mentioned above be present.
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In a third perspective, words alone like saying "No" cant say it was rape, depends if the victim did want it or not.
I dont know if I am right or if I am wrong , but this is how I understand if I think about this psychologicaly and legally.
I am still learning in my course.

It seems we're not from the same part of the world, so I understand your standards are different (especially the age of consent), but I don't really understand how you can list the elements of rape and not mention the lack of consent. The things you listed under your third point makes the victim's potential consent non-valid, that's what makes it rape. In the same way, saying "no" is a very clear way to express that you are not consenting, thus ignoring it is at the very least sexual assault. Also, women can be rapists too. They can also abuse their authority, use threats, coercion and even violence to force a man or a woman to do sexual acts they don't want.

Yeah. Every country has different laws.
Also the elements written was on the book we are studying...
Rape has lot of context and the elements I stated first is rape by carnal knowledge and stated that the offender is man and at number 2 there is no "or man" as a victim, I was wrong there. Because it would be sexual assult if that happens... Sorry if I did not specify.
And yes there is also rape by sexual assult and it has its own elements and here it is.
1. Offender commits an act of Sexual assault;
2. The act of sexual assault is committed by any of the following means:
a. By inserting his Penis into another person’s mouth or anal orifice; or
b. By inserting any Instrument or object
into the genital or anal orifice of another
person.
3. The act of sexual assault is accomplished
under any of the following circumstances:
a. By using Force or intimidation;
b. When the woman is Deprived of reason
or otherwise unconscious;
c. By means of fraudulent Machination or
grave abuse of authority; or
d. When the woman is under twelve (12)
years of age or demented.
This was Bl so I really should have stated this first...
There are also different kinds of rape like marital, incestuous, statutory.... Still learning tho...

Read the raws and I really can't hate yoon jaehyuk now root for you jaehyuk!! Go get your lovely han garam

SPOILER ALERT!!!
1. He rented a house for garam using his savings and sell few of his fav items to cover the cost
2. He drives garam to his mum's hospital which is 4 hours away from their dormitory in the middle of the night.
3. He takes care of garam's meal.
4. He nurses garam back to his health when garam spikes a fever.
5. I will spare the last one guyss. You need this seriously

These are the raws that I found:
https://toonkor342.com/%EC%84%A0-%EB%84%98%EB%8A%94-%EC%82%AC%EC%9D%B4

Just asking out of curiousity. Do people really can last that long during sx??

Yep. Some people have stamina for exercise and some people have stamina for sex. Although sex can be considered exercise cause you burn calories. For example, my ex could do pushups but he couldn’t do any other type of exercise for long. But our first time together, it was 3 and a half hours long and we only stopped because we got interrupted. I think the pleasure short circuits your brain into having a higher stamina and since “mating” is a survival instinct, you’ll have an easier time doing that then let’s say lifting weights which isn’t a survival instinct.

Yes, my ex could last 5h with no issues. We took small "breaks" because I needed them after 3h. Also, my back hurt. A quicky for him was 1h. His case was a case of retarded ejaculation. It's a thing and just like mr. Shaman says : it IS a problem. It's not a good thing. There was 1 or 2 situations he just couldn't come at all. Made me feel horrible but that was his issue since je refused to do the treatment.

That's the actual term. The 2 words together are an actual term. It took me some time to figure what could be the problem because it's not an insult to anyone, just an actual term. Google it if you doubt it. There are articles about it on PubMed as well. It's also refered as RE or delayed ejaculation. But the term I first used seems to be the most used. You shouldn't pick on people, especially when you don't know what you are talking about.

It’s not a slur if it’s the actual terminology. The word existed far before it was used as a slur and medical diagnoses don’t require anyone’s approval before they are named. They also don’t need to be checked for potential slurs either. The word “retarded” actually means “delayed”. Like most words that are considered slurs, they didn’t start off that way and you should try to remember that. The person who said it was talking about a medical diagnosis that their partner got. I don’t know why you suddenly assumed that they were calling their partner a slur. Another example is the word “Impotence” which is the inability to do something yet people call each other “impotent” meaning someone who is useless. The insult does not and can not take away from the original meaning of the word nor it being used in other places.

First of all bold of you to assume that i had assumed anything at all, i simply stated that its a word that shouldn’t be used under any circumstances unless you yourself are mentally disabled, second of all even if it is a medical term if it contains a slur it is not something to be said unless you are able to reclaim it and especially dont use that word if you know there is a different word for it that you can use instead of it, third of all i know that most slurs didnt start off as slurs but even then that doesn’t change the fact that right now that word is a slur and that isnt going to change anytime soon, there is a fucking reason that mental r(word)ation has been changed to Intellectual disability, and fourth of all medical diagnosis definitely would need an approval you can’t just name them whatever you like especially not with slurs.

I wasn’t picking on you in the first place, im telling you you shouldn’t be using that word wether it is the actual term or not you shouldn’t be using the r word even if you are not using it as an insult, you could’ve just said delayed ejaculation instead of saying the one with an obvious slur in it, its as simple as that, plus I already know about delayed ejaculation I’ve learned about it way back in school it’s nothing i need to search up I wasn’t saying its not a real thing i know its real and i know it happens to people my one and simple request to you was to not use the r word and thats it.

They don’t need YOUR approval or the approval of anyone in society. The medical board deals with it exclusively. Just because some people use it as a slur, doesn’t mean that it can’t be used in a professional manner. So you want every medical diagnosis of that situation to have a changed name? Get over yourself. No one is pressed about this issue except you. If you want to call it by another name, go ahead. Don’t tell a doctor to call a scientific name by anything else. They aren’t obligated to cater to you. The diagnosis of that issue for OP’s partner has nothing to do with you. Just because there’s a new term for the mental disability over the slur doesn’t mean there’s a ban on the word. Until all governments ban the word from use, it’s able to be used. If it’s used in a medical way, it’s able to be used. You think the world revolves around what you deem to be just and unjust but it just doesn’t. If you think that, you need to grow up because that’s just entitlement that you don’t have the ability to claim.

What the hell are you yapping about, the only person that needs to get over themselves right now is you, why is it so hard for you to understand that not just me but other mentally disabled people don’t want this word being used, there is no need to be THIS mad about me telling someone to not use a slur even if it is used medically or what not. (do not fucking reply, i have no interest in talking with people like you)

this is some 2015 tumblr discourse poster behavior. just checking, do you also think "fire retardant" is a slur? bc it's not, it means "not readily susceptible to fire" and "substance that prevents or inhibits fire." also you're literally on a porn site, mad about a person's delayed orgasm. they didn't call you or anybody an R word. they used a term that has a shared root and you took the opportunity to be mad.

“retard” quite literally is french for “late”. it was used by doctors to refer to disabled people only because they developed slower than normal. it was a medical term before a slur and even now it is taught in medical schools and used by everyone when referring to medical conditions such as retarded ejaculation.
you can make any word that describes a person into a slur. for example, if someone said “fucking blonde” that would make the word “blonde” technically a slur. still, people obviously still use these words because to them, the slur usage of the word is not its meaning but just the context it’s used in. please be cognizant of words’ denotations, especially if it concerns the medical field. what you said makes you sound like some uneducated, woke, self-righteous child

Don’t bother trying to educate this one. I already tried. At this point, it’s safe to assume they are either just that stupid and naive or are trolling. A monkey will still be a monkey even if you teach it some new tricks. There’s no use trying to educate one who doesn’t want to be educated. You were right with your assumption of them but forgot one thing. Entitled brats usually act up further when given more attention. Deprive them of it and they wither at least for a while.
Rereading this while waiting for the new chapter. Just curious, is yjh likes garam since the laptop incident? Because there's no way he'll go such lengths(plus his fish phobia haha) to help garam with his assignment. Well, this is just my opinion. What about u guys?
I suppose he has fallen in love slowly, step by step, gradually. Yes, I think he had been starting liking Garam just before the laptop incident, but without him nor Garam realising that, being J a straight and homophobic guy
I personally think he started to feel “something” (I’m not sure if it can be called “like”) when he saw Garam with his cafe hyung and kept bothering him and asking about their relationship (I can’t remember the chapter, it should be around 10+).
Yep, I agree with you. I forgot this event (I think I'll give the whole story a rereading while waiting for s3): probably it hasn't been love or liking yet, but surely (a few) interest