"I kept letting some dude raw dog it and cum buckets inside of me, how could I possibly be pregnant?" This is like watching an episode of 16 and pregnant, lol.
You can't raise a child as their teacher and then fuck them.
This trope is so upsetting. This poor child. It's so sad that Korea thinks this is okay. Is everyone groomed in Korea? Are children, groomed children, constantly be blamed and framed as seducers in Korea? How can this be so normal?
I hate this so much. I hated even more because so many idiots think it's fine. They think it's fine as long as the child is framed as the sexually aggressive one. Clearly the adults is innocent if the child is sexually aggressive... Like they don't understand grooming at all.
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Nobody asked sybau
Agree
I love how confusing and weird this manhwa is. Why does he have claws on his chest? What is he talking about with his insides feeling weird and having a lump? What happened when they were children? It's all so weird and crazy.
As its implied in the chibis previous chapter, I think Kimoto is some sort of worm/crawler, or rather a worm comes out of his chest. This is his “ability.” For the lump, I’m still trying to figure it out too, its either because of the worm ability or because Tehir forced his way in, ripped flesh+blood made it look like that? Idk lol
What I love is that we don't really know. Everything in this world is weird and confusing but incredibly interesting. It's not very well explained but we get enough hints to keep us interested.
I'm into the strangeness.
might be a centipede
100%!! i kind of like how it's just presented to us like yea this is just a Thing that happens in this insane world...
If he was an assassin who was after the Prince then why did he kill the prince? He could have at any time and he didn't. Are these characters supposed to be intelligent?
Well he fell in love with the prince and since the prince is the only one who ever shown him interest or love he doesn’t feel like it’s right for him to kill the prince.
Yes, I know why he didn't kill him. Why are they questioning it? The first thing they should be asking is why did he act the way he did and why was he so obviously mistreated and why didn't he kill the prince
Like the guards? If you’re talking about the guards then yes they questioned Radan but the prince was very interested in him and because of that they didn’t push it any farther. Since Radan was so abused. The way the prince treated made him feel comfortable due to that he didn’t believe it was right for him to kill the prince and he was even like in love with the prince as well. That why he kept planning an escape. I hope this helps
What are you talking about? Are you completely fuucking stupid? What are you even responding to? You need to go to a doctor because I think you have a traumatic brain injury or some sort of mental disability.
I very clearly understand the story, I told you I understand the story. What I'm saying is that I don't understand why no one in the story is asking any questions.
They're just like oh he's the assassin he must have been there to assassinate the prince but obviously he wasn't because he could have assassinated the Prince at any time. He was with the prince constantly when the prince was at his most vulnerable and the prince didn't die so why aren't they asking any questions about that. Why are they just assuming he was there to assassinate the prince? This makes no sense.
The author has written their characters to be as dumb as you. Normal people are not this stupid. People on average are of average intelligence, nothing like you, and people that are average intelligence are capable of critical thinking and will ask questions when situations are outside of the norm.
Assassins that want to assassinate someone do not spend weeks watching the person sleep without assassinating them. Why is nobody questioning that? Because the author thinks everyone in their audience is like you.
Damn I was just trying to help you but go off. Like did you f - ing not realize that everything is f - ing fiction like if it was in person it might have been different. I mean did you not realize that people would process things different cause not everyone is like you. Not everyone is logical. And if he killed the prince from the start what story will it be like are you realizing that. Like it’s supposed to have plot and a story line to it not just be like a 5 chapter. But I guess trying to be helpful is a crime. Like in this case you would have been killed by the Prince cause did you not realized how they tried to questioned Radan and the prince quickly shut them down or are you stupid and didn’t pick that shit up. Like when it comes down to it not everyone in the f-ing same. Don’t read stuff like this if it makes you mad it’s not for everyone. Imagine belittling someone who’s trying to help you that’s crazy. I got better stuff to do than argue with someone who’s mentally not there. Like be fr
You ARE RIGHT!! Fiction is fiction, they are not capable of processing human thoughts like ours because it's fiction!! They are not REAL and that they ought to have people write their THOUGHTS for us TO KNOW because they are not real:>> No one should belittle for that silly fucking reason. It's just fiction, no need to be so sensitive over a fiction's dumb logics.
Your a horrible person
That horrible person must've woken up on the wrong side of their bed
They said "are you completely f**king stupid.?!!" like you you completely okay?? Why would you say that to a stranger you don't know?
Honestly thank you guys for defending me in all seriousness I was just trying to like help her but I guess that was doing a bit much on my side
I’m just sorry you had to experience that. It’s not fair especially when you were just trying to help and you weren’t being mean about it either . I hope the mean comments don’t pester you
Anytime babes unfortunately there's alot of them like that on this site which is crazy. I can't stand keyboard warriors.
Ofc bae, lots of miserable people out there that literally has no reason to showcase their miserable life in a comment section. Ofc we would defend u, a rude person deserves no such thing as respect to their face. Miserable will always be miserable, sorry to the innocent miserable people out there if I offended you. This mf js couldn't reply kindly when a random person on the internet is js trying to help them. Some dumb shit I say
No, I stand by everything I said. You weren't trying to be helpful. You were being intentionally stupid or you are actually disabled.
its really a bummer that there aren't more intelligent people like you in this series. If even a small percentage of characters were as smart as you all fictional series would be infinitely better.
surely the entire mangago userbase can learn from your never ending wisdom and start questioning the dumb decisions of stupid authors cause obv who are readers if not critics.
Your WBC must be disgusted to protect a scumbag. Get out of here if you can't afford a chill pill
What the heck are you going off for??!! Who offended you!?!
Lmaoo i just realized that's such a cute way of calling someone a scumbag. Your wbc must be disgusted
Calling an insult cute was not on my list this year XD
I'm sorry but what's WBC(?), I'm not fluent in internet slang and hopefully you wouldn't snap like that person
Babe the other person obviously answer your question if you just read it again. 1
Why are they questioning it? Mc is fcking suspicious 2. Why did he act the way he did? Elaborate this, being a pitiful being or assasin, the former because he's fcking mistreated since he was a child and the latter is because he was raised as an assasin as simple as that. 3. Why was he so obviously mistreated??? Wtf kind of of quesiton is that, he's mistreated those people are shitty, it's obvious for the sake of the reader and character there, to know that he's mistreated. 4. Why didn't he kill the prince? He fell in love with him . If that didn't answer your question, it means only two thing, 1. You didn't read the answer and you lack reading comprehension, so study more before belittling other people and acting like an ass 2. You should learned how to reword your question.. Goodness, your comments was on July and its August now, I hope you're not an ass today.
This is kind of stupid. How desperate are Korean reporters for stories that they would go after a 10-year-old story about college kids cheating? And unsubstantiated claims that someone who's famous is pursuing a relationship with some nobody? That's how you get sued in Korea. They don't have the first amendment over there so it's really easy to sue people who talk shit.
But it happen in reality
Look, I'm sorry. I know that the poor MC has had an incredibly rough and unfair life but... BUT!
He's totally the one in the wrong here. The wikileaks are not his. He sold them.
He sold them and then he stole them.
He sold them, then he stole them, and then he cheated on his man.
He sold them, then he stole them, then he cheated on his man, and then he ran off.
He sold them, then he stole them, then he cheated on his man, then he ran off, and then he profited off them.
He sold them, then he stole them, then he cheated on his man, then he ran off, then he profited off them, and now he's crawling back on his belly like the snake he is.
He sold them, then he stole them, then he cheated on his man, then he ran off, then he profited off them, now he's crawling back on his belly like the snake he is and he's offended that the person he deliberately, maliciously, and intentionally completely fucked over isn't happy to see him!
He's just not very likeable at this point. This is villainous narcissist behavior.
Here's where idiots are going to try and justify him acting like a narcissistic villain and harming everyone around him. They're going to say it's not his fault because he had a rough life. The problem is that we all know that's not true. Just because you've been hurt doesn't mean you get to hurt other people. You're still responsible for your actions even if your life sucks.
read AGAIN
Read what again?
Imagine going to a car dealership to sell your car. You sell them your car and sign a contract saying you sell them your car. They give you money for your car. You take that money. The car is sold. Then you wait until they aren't looking, use a spare key to get in the car, and drive it off because you somehow convince yourself it's still your car.
You would go to prison for that because that would be Grand theft Auto. That would be a crime. Once you sell something it's not yours anymore.
This is a fantasy world, it's all fiction, but it's still based in reality. This isn't some alternate fantasy timeline with orcs and goblins where there's no property law.
I'm sure you'll find some way too pretend like it's okay for the MC to steal, lie, cheat, and betray everyone around them. The idiots on this website identify way too strongly with every main character and are incapable of seeing how wrong and terrible so many of these main characters are. So often the main characters are the reason why everything bad happens to them.
If this dumbass main character had just not been a filthy little thief then he wouldn't be in this bad situation at all.
I agree with u. It’s rich when he fucks the ML over and then expects him to welcome him with open arms and then feels hurt when ML doesn’t. Granted they were not in a relationship and it can’t truly be considered cheating but a rough life doesn’t mean loose morals. Opening ur ass up to get out of a sticky situation each time is just ugh.
This trope where the older, usually much older, uke raises the much younger seme to be wildly sexually obsessed with him is a trope that normalizes grooming. You're going to say "there's no grooming in the story!" But of course there was grooming, you just don't see it. That's how grooming works. Plus the story is told from the POV of the groomer (the uke) and why would the groomer think they did anything wrong.
The whole point of grooming is that it is something invisible that is done to children in order to make the children think they are sexually attracted to the adults. A child who has been groomed will often beat the initiator of sexual contact because they have been groomed into thinking it's something they want. The sexual obsession that these groomed children show is a symptom of grooming and not a reason to think the groomer (the uke) is innocent.
Now there's going to be some idiots who are going to respond to this saying "he didn't raise him!!!" And to that I have to point out that you probably don't have any older siblings or aren't an older sibling. A sibling who is 10 years older than you very much raises you, even if it's not their primary responsibility. They are still very much an authority figure who is constantly there and has power over you.
A cousin that is adopted by your family is no different than a sibling. Adopted siblings are still siblings.
Hi! I was groomed. So yeah um.. a groomer usually knows what they are doing. And if they DONT, then they atleast have a "I kinda wanna date this person.." thought process. The reason why I don't think the older brother here is a groomer is for one simple reason. He was raped by the younger dude. Groomers don't just "let go" of the people they're grooming. It's clear that this guy was quite literally being raped without his knowledge, and assumed they were dreams. He even felt awful about them (if you had read, you would've known that) so yeah, I 100% don't think this is grooming. Ofc you see a lot of super younger and super older stories on here, but honestly, I don't think they're that far apart in age first off (we don't know yet) and second off, if he WAS grooming him, he wouldn't of been fucking raped by the guy. You guys always wanna call someone a pedophile even when THEY are the one getting raped by the younger person whom they see (normally) as family
Also, we already know for a fact this is set in omegaverse, and so him letting off his pheromones in the car, basically suffocating the Uke with them, is like a style of drugging him. It is QUITE LITERALLY A SEX DRUG. He barely has control of his body and he's basically in a state of "heat" which was forced upon him. He's being raped. And yes, shocking information, people who are way younger than you, can fucking rape you. It doesn't make you a pedophile.
You clearly didn't read what I said.
OF COURSE YOU DON'T SEE THE GROOMING IN THIS WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE GROOMER. This is the groomers fantasy, the groomers POV. The groomers fantasy is not that they're a disgusting irredeemable degenerate. The groomers fantasy is that the children they raised are so attracted to them that they can't resist.
The groomers fantasy, the groomers point of view that they would put into writing in order to make themselves look innocent, is that they are so irresistible to children that children will do anything to have sex with them.
That's all this is and the fact that you don't see that shows you either sympathize with the groomer, which is why you like this point of view so much, or you aren't thinking critically.
This trope always tries to portray the groomer, the pedophile, the uke as the victim because in their mind that relieves them of responsibility, it means they did nothing wrong. They're the victim here, clearly they're not a pedophile or a groomer when they're being raped by the child they raised. Why would they be responsible for that? How could it possibly be their fault?
THIS IS THEIR POINT OF VIEW SO OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEEING THEMSELVES AND PORTRAYING THEMSELVES AS THE INNOCENT ONE. OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO OMIT ALL OF THE GROOMING THAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THIS POOR GROOMED CHILD'S LIFE AND ONLY SHOW YOU THE PARTS WHERE THEY'RE INNOCENT. How do you think they would describe it to themselves?
I wish they still taught critical thinking in schools. I wish they still taught you idiot children how to dissect the point of view in writing and how to think about fiction for multiple points of view and not just the one you're shown.
I'm asking too much though. I'm just shocked you're able to read and write at all considering how terribly the school system has failed the children.
So...your not calling the uke a pedophile but the um...author..? Which I mean, I could totally see that point of view if you were calling the AUTHOR that. But if you're still calling the uke that, then you need to realize, even if the author wrote it that way on purpose for their sick fantasy, he still got raped.. and he didn't even want to have sex with the dude in the first place, because he saw him as family.
So overall, if you're saying the AUTHOR is the sick one, then yes, I agree. But if you're saying the uke is, then I think you've gone astray.
No I am 100% saying the uke is a pedophile and a groomer and that the author is writing a story specifically for groomers.
You're saying that he's somehow innocent. That he had nothing to do with the child he raised being sexually obsessed with him. This grown man who is clearly at least 10 years older, judging from their size difference in flashbacks ,is completely innocent?
The child seduced him! It's not his fault, what was he supposed to do when this child was so sexually obsessed with him? He's the victim here. Everyone should take his side because the child is the problem. The child is just too sexual. Did you see how the child dressed? The child chose to climb into his bed with him. The child begged him for attention. The child came on to him. The child forced themselves on to him. What was he supposed to do? He was seduced!
Because that's exactly what groomers and pedophiles say to defend themselves when they're caught. That's exactly what you are saying in defense of this groomer and pedophile.
Also, don't try to say I "looked at the point of view of the groomer" because I looked at it from the point of view of a victim lol. I've been groomed and raped before, neither are good. Just because someone is writing down a fantasy where the older person is the victim, doesn't mean raping is okay. Once again, I understand putting down the author, but putting down the guy who got raped by someone whom he deemed as family, and who was raping him for years, is just sad and disgusting. Would you say the same for a woman who gets raped by her son? Did she "groom him" too? Not all stories about an older person getting raped by a younger person mean grooming, it literally just means they were raped.
Sorry but your comment is giving "I can excuse rape! But I draw the LINE at pedophilia!"
"You can excuse rape???"
10 YEARS?? HELPPPP THEY DO NOT LOOK 10 YEARS APART also really disturbing my dude! You're basically just agreeing to the whole
"I can excuse rape but I draw the line at pedophilia!" Thing LMFAO I'm assuming you either have a severely skewed sense of reality, or that you're ragebaiting. No way you said the guy who got raped is the problem, he didn't even bring the guy into his household when he was a kid, THE DAD DID so if you wanna call ANYONE a groomer, call his DAD a groomer, I mean, he DID say he was raised to be "his husband" so his dad was clearly the one who was grooming him into this position lol
You're putting words in my mouth. I'm not excusing rape. You can't rape the willing. All groomers claime it was against their will once they're caught. They all claim that the child took advantage of them. You're seeing this from the groomer's point of view so the groomer is defending themselves by saying it was against their will but if you listen to what they're actually saying you'll see it's not.
In the first chapter, literally the first chapter, the uke says that once he started going through puberty, once the older uke started going through puberty he started fantasizing about the child. The child who was much younger than him. He stated that the child was much younger than him.
So he was going through puberty but the child was not and he was having fantasies about the child. Sexual fantasies about the child.
Go reread it. Go reread it and tell me he's not a pedophile and a groomer.
BRO WHAT YOURE SAYING THAT THEYRE LYING ABOUT GETTING RAPED WHEN THE AUTHOR LITERALLY PURPOSEFULLY WROTE ABOUT THE UKE GETTING RAPED HELPPPP YOURE ACTUALLY INSANE HOLY FUCK
I'm not "putting word in your mouth" YOU QUITE LITERALLY JUST SAID HE DIDNT GET RAPED WHEN HE QUITE LITERALLY DID. THERES NO IF ANDS OR BUTS, HE GOT RAPED I'm gonna stop talking to you now because you're clearly fucking insane. Either you're a child who doesn't understand the world around you yet and just listen to buzzwords online, or WORSE you're a full grown adult trying to force reality how YOU want it to be. News flash: what you just read was a guy getting raped. Unwilling. This isn't a fucking court room, this is a manga that genuinely contains rape. Get over yourself.
bait used to be believable
You need to take a critical look at these stories. You need to realize how common this trope is.
I'm genuinely not trying to troll people. This is a real problem. It is so harmful and toxic to be presenting these relationships as normal.
It is not normal for an adult to fuck a child. It is not normal for an adult to meet a child and then wait for that child to grow up so they can fuck them. It's not normal for an adult to raise a child and fuck them.
I don't understand why this is controversial.
L rage bait I ain’t even get mad.do better.
Why draw the uke all beefy he's as weak as a kitten?
I'm so confused. I got a few chapters behind on this because the whole betraying the entire country arc was a little cringe... But why would killing the enemies Commander magically make all of their troops disappear? Was he a necromancer and once he died all of his armies turn to dust? I'm so confused.
That's just how war is sometimes. Kill their leader and they lose their heads and confidence, sometimes surrendering.
No, that's not how it works. That's not how anything works.
This isn't game of thrones season 8. People don't just let the person who murdered their leader go. There were soldiers in the room with him, 20 or more according to what the author actually wrote. You're saying that these soldiers watched him stab their leader in the throat and just walked away? That's not how it works.
This is just such a cringy poorly written manhwa. Maybe D&D actually did write it.
I forgot it was an ambushed xd
I think he didn't take anyone with him, when he went to trap Valery ( atleast in manhwa, we didn't see any other soldier) so I like to think he went on a solo revenge trip or whatever.
I'm pretty sure it was implied there were soldiers waiting outside in the forest though, both as witnesses of the leader taking Valery's compre to claim victory and as back up in case Valery brought enforcements by chance. I'm pretty lost with the details though
It sure is dangerous to do business in Korea.