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Just because it became mainstream it doesn't make it right. It's still disgusting. Let people be triggered and upset about it wtf
Yes, I'm not saying I haven't read shit that contained rape before, but after taking a year off yaoi/BL and ”exploring the real world”(something you should do), I realized how fucked up this kind of manga are, making rape seem like something normal. It's even more fucked up that those manga are read by 15 years old that would start beliving that consent isn't something important. ”NO” means no. Just because it's something you enjoy reading it doesn't mean others have to feel the same as you.
Shut up and let people be upset about it.

why are you getting mad at people just because they dont support rape

I get why people are upset but I don’t get what’s the point of commenting it especially in here . U don’t like certain things don’t read it simple . It’s not like this was some pure clean manga site . If that’s ur approach then find sum other just stop taking bs 24/7 . U all can only complain and read shit like that again and again and then complain again . And as for young teens watching these things . Lemme get this inside ur head this is not the site for them . This site is same as any other hentai or porn shit . Just 2d . Let’s not even go there , have u ever gone to a porn site? If u see something 3D like this u won’t type there would u? And even sites like those r accessed by many teens . Watch at own risk that’s all. I won’t goddam pity anyone who accessed this site and accidentally read sum shit which traumatised them . If u wanna blame someone blame urself . Stop acting like sum justice hero . When u all should realise things like these can never vanish . If u all r so good then don’t use this site . Goddamm hypocrites . Even lies are acceptable but don’t complain when ur also the part of a deeed. 24/7 omg rape omg this omg bara omg shota tf why u reading anyways ??

Then u answer me why r u all commenting this shit when u clearly know about what kinda site this is . Like would u go to a porn site and type shit like omg this is corrupting this is that bla bla. F u don’t like something don’t watch it simple . I just don’t like hypocrisy. I can very certainly say that most of u mf have already read shit like rape and even liked it . Same pattern anyways . If u see the whole group of people saying rape is bad over this manga everyone follows . No personal opinions just bland shit . I’m not saying rape is good I’m just saying stop acting like u have never seen this in any other thing out there.i don’t see these comments over sum really popular manhwas why? . Anyways I just shared my opinion and thoughts . I think I do have that right don’t I? If u do t agree then it’s not my problem . Teens these days just care about justice to their comfort . Believe things to their comfort and also accept things to their comfort .

Facts: most people who read yaoi are females . About 85 percent u can say
And then even if young girls who start watching these would think that consent is not important and that they can do this to other go around doing this would u think they will accomplish? Woman are not as physically strong as guys so most likely even if they attempt such a move they would not be successful. I’d say they brought that upon themselves. It’s not even in woman nature to do such a thing . If tha5 what ur worried about . Other thing is these fiction mangas are meant for an older audience and are to be taken as straight up porn . So obviously it will include kink bdsm and shit like this . And I believe that a 15 yold have already developed a mind in which even they know what is wrong and what’s right . This is not sum old generation that kids are not exposed to this already .what u should be concerned about is tiktok which generally attracts younger audience and corrupt their minds with trends like kissing ur best friend without consent .
Why fight over something which is not even widely spread and approached . And Only I enjoy this type of shit?? Top popular ones include painter of the night love is an illusion , do u know their ratings . R u actually serious? All I have a problem is with those people who watch these things and then complain coz why not? If u guys can be just a bit honest then it would actually save the time .. I’m sorry but as u see I’m well aware of how u might take this all with a gran of salt and what u might think . I could easily choose to avoid the matter and not make such a comment but ukw that would also make me no less that a hypocrite so . Obviously I’m aware that everyone deserves the right of sharing how they feeel but this bs is everyday shit . I mean first u watch porn and expect that to be pure no shit no harm ??? Stick to shounen ai I’m afraid u might even lose ur shit while watching sex scenes lol. And please people stop imagining fiction is real u can never be 2d sadly .

That is not the point. The point is that rape is a terrible act (a crime!!!!) and we don't want the mc to be a rapist. And you're think we should just be happy with this event? And it's not like anyone are slandering the author or something like that. We can read knowing that it's wrong at the same time, and maybe one day this won't be treated as a common thing.

Funny. You know what else thats mainstream that no one cares about? Murder.

Murder is actually a worse offense than rape, but no one screams murder is wrong. I was watching little kids watch avengers and in the opening scene they are killing people left and right.

To a point everyone is desensitized by it. Its actually glorified in moves and mangas, but do you honestly think everyone who watches it will go out and think killing is ok? Do you honestly think ppl will go out and kill because in movies its a cool thing to do?

Rape is bad. I don't know the percentage of males to females readers, but did you know most yaoi is marketed to females?

How many of those females do you think become rapests in japan?

Let's just stick to rape is bad. Not everyone is stupid. Not everyone will "monkey see. monkey do."

People will only speak for their comfort . They act as if they are so right and just and only take actions on minor things . I don’t like this hypocrisy. Rather than pointing out or speaking on major topics and what actually is wrong and unacceptable they choose to go to the site which is for these shit to comment why do people make these shit. Ur point makes most sense . The mindset of how they conveniently comment that while all those Rape things r in their reading , already Read list is just unbelievable. If u believe in something u have to believe in it all the way . Giving priority to rape over murder is also unacceptable . Rather than giving awareness about other major things people will conveniently sit on their asses and speak over not so problematic shit . There are millions other things which are actually deeply corrupting young audience . Fs including murder which is being put out so openly making it look as if it’s totally alright if a person loses its life unfairly . And giving out a moral that “life is unfair so just accept it “ . It’s not unfair people make it unfair .

Mind u. But I never said it’s not a crime and no body would want to be with a person who raped them first and four most . If u really want to treat this as real life then don’t u think both r crazy . Later on uke will accept the seme obviously which is wayyyy far from reality and that’s why it’s called fiction . They make these porn yaoi to bring in things from imagination far from things which can’t proceed in reality . Can u actually say that a yaoi would make complete sense if it was real ? It’s fantasy . Take killing stalking bj Alex or love is an illusion. Do u think they make any sense ? Isn’t it hypocrisy that u go around saying it’s wrong but still read it anyways ?? If u treat things like that then there’s no way this won’t be “treated as common”. We all have our own kinks and imaginations . What these yaoi mangas try to approach is not go rape go do this or that . Its for our kinks and our thoughts . This is an adult content like porn or hentai . Nothing different from that . Just for enjoyment. And the scenario Is nothing that can be compared to reality. But I Really get ur point and no one is wrong here . Just different perspective. :)

Lmao I don't understand what murder has to do with anything I said. Just because murder is worse than rape, that's not an excuse for it lmao.
You're saying that this site isn't for teens, yea i do know that, but do you think this is gonna stop an 15years old and youger from accessing the site? And I meant that by reading all this crap that makes rape seems like something normal, they would be belive that, yea, it's not big deal is someone touched them without their consens. and don't tell me that not everyone is dumb like manipulation is not a thing. They will think its ok and won't reach for help in case of something like this.
Also I don't think you've read my first answer ti your question. YES, i did read things with rape and other fucked up topics, when I was one of those teens you are talking about. And I didn't understand the heaviness of those topics, i thought that it wasn't anything wrong with it but now i do, and it's disgusting for me. If that makes me an hypocrite then so be it. At least I. don't try to make excuses for rape or other fucked up things.
I am sad and disturbed that rape is something so used in manga/manhua/manhwa and people started romanticizing it, but what can we do.
Just let people be upset about it and let them say their opinion. If it became some sort of kink for you that doesn't mean it's the same for others.
Let people be upset.

Well. Ok.... So you are saying because kids can access porn. Porn should be censored for them? That doesnt make sense.

We all know this is adult content.

People need to take responsibility for thier own actions. If this is not for them, they really shouldn't be reading/watching it. This could be why all chinese yaoi content was sensored. Now all new chinese novels/webtoon have a no porn policy. All of their novels/webtoon are shounen ai. I mean do all countries have to censor porn because kids cant help themselves?

I never said rape is ok and i never said murder is ok. I am saying generally rape is in adult content, but murder can be in cartoons for kids and its ok because they are the bad guys.

So you are telling me because you watched porn as a kid. You started to rape and sexually assault ppl? Lol? Then i have to say you arent the brightest crayon in the coloring box.

I read it in my teens and no i never did those stupid things. Like I said before did you know that yaoi manga is made in japan and it's main target is probably young japanese girls. You think that there was an increase in rape because all these girls became rapist? Possibly japanese girls are smarter than other girls? Lol?

Your argument is that kids read porn and adult content and thats ok. *Pikachu shocked face* yes of course you would because for you. Porn is made for kid. Hahhaah yes yes. Im sure it is. Keep telling yourself that.

The funniest thing about this thread is that OP assumes the people who are disappointed by the latest chapter are minors, lmao. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I’m older than 18 and shit like this in stories still disappoints me. I’ve been reading BL for YEARS, which is why I’m so tired of this trope. It’s been used and reused who knows how many times when there are other GOOD ways to progress a story. And don’t go “if you don’t like it then don’t read it!” on me. How would I know I’ll like it if I don’t read it? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

You asked why people keep complaining? Well, aren’t you complaining, too? Readers are allowed to express their disappointment and discomfort just as how you’re allowed to express your own. Just because some tropes are “accepted” or tolerated doesn’t mean people can’t complain. Also, complaining about a problematic story yet continuing to read it doesn’t make one a hypocrite. It’s called being AWARE and CRITICAL of the media they consume.

Are we saying you shouldn’t read it because we disagree with the trope? No, we’re not. Are we saying creators should stop releasing stories with problematic contents? No, we’re not. We’re just saying we’re tired of it. If anything, YOU are the one gatekeeping others from reading and commenting.

The comments section wasn’t made to pander to you.

Bro I swear either you don't have any reading comprehension you're dumb af. You are not giving me any good argument to work with.
Did I say girls started becoming rapist somewhere? I clearly say that sreing rape si fucking normalized will make them think consent isn't important. THEIR consent, THOSE GIRLA would be the ones that woyld go through sexual harassment without saying anything because they think isn't bot that big of a deal. Do you understate what i am saying now?? or do i have to draw it for you
Ok so just because porn is made for adults, and "rape" is made for adult, does that mean that every person who gets raped or sexuality harassed is an adult???? so its impossible for teens to be raped because they are under 18????
And your last paragraph, where in the fuck did i say porn is made for kids?
Oh my god you're literally not making any sense. Just shut up at this point and stop making excuses for rape and other disgusting topic

Hahahah did someone's underwear bunch up? Why are you getting all up in a frenzy.

Yes. Name calling.... So mature of you. Lol.

Since you enjoy stating the obvious. Did you know violence is bad? *Pickachu shocked face*

Wow! Wow! Did you know slavery is bad? *Pikachu shocked face*

Oh no! I must point this out to you because if you read this webtoon you might think violence against you is ok and that slavery is ok.

Wow and you kept reading till you stumbled upon rape? *Pickachu shocked face* then you realize this was a bad webtoon! Σ( ￣□￣||) omg!!!! Call the cops!!!! Someone was raped!!!! What are we going to do? Let's all mob mangago and let them know an Innocent person was victomized!!!!!

Hahahah you crack me up.

Yes rape is real and rape is bad. Anyone who says elsewise is just trolling you. Lol.

First you said kid will be kids and read porn. Thats ok because..... They will read porn!!!!

Then you said rape is normalized in porn so you became a rapist with skewed concept of rape. Lol?

Now you are saying.... No ppl who read rape become victims of rape and they think its ok?

You are so weird. Anyone who experience rape is very traumatizing. I have yet to read any news artical saying that girl read rape, then gets raped thinking it was ok.

Umm what rock are u living in?

Bad things happen in real life. You can blaim porn, video games, and movies, but statistic show overwhelming amount of people wont "monkey see. Monkey do"

Im sorry you became a rapist because you read rape porn. You should probably go threw therapy.

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I mean. If you dont like rape and its a big thing for you. Why would you want to read rape content? Because at the end of the day you wont be happy.

There are things i wont like shotacon. I honestly think thats gross. It doesnt matter how great the story is. That content bothers me so i just skip it.

I forgot the name i think it was called something like blue prince consort? Idk. I heard it was really good and a lot of ppl like but i think the kid was like 13-14 and the ml was 24? Yup... Skip...

If you enjoy complainting thats fine, i think we all do to an extent. But if you want solutions to your issues, there are solutions. Especially if you are getting bored.

I personally started reading shoujo again because i was getting bored. Lol i remembered why i hated most shoujos, but i did enjoy some shoujo.

Sometimes you should take a break if things are getting too intense.

I also started reading chinese bl novels. All new Chinese novels are shounen ai. No sex scenes.

Its very very slow burn. Sometimes the love part happens after 100 chapters.

I still read yaoi but im more selective now because i have preferences.

If you are unsatisfied, you can carry on your unsatisfactory path or try something new. Idk. Maybe you will like the new stuff better and shed your Boredom.

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Just saying you are free to do what you want, but also letting you know there are other options out there. Dont this this is the only option for you.

First —wasn’t talking about murder to u hun . What I wanted to convey was how stupid woman will always stay stupid till the end .fight at their comfort. And since u all dumbfcks are woman u always give priority to talking about rape rather than other things . Like if u all are relating this to reality and u all think just any kid can be affected then rape is all it came to ur mind ? Since clearly u know nothing by saying that even a 15 yold can be affected . I bet a 15 yold would have a better mind then urs .

No I don’t think teens are gna stop accessing this site . I have done shit in life I was tooo young for yaoi I never got “affected” . I don’t give a f if a young teen accessed this site and got “ trauma “ and if u get trauma u stay outta those things . And I personally don’t care about the small percentage like u .

manipulation?touched without consent ? Reach out for help ?
Ur not even talking about 1 percent of the teens . Lol if a person do get affected by these things they will leave watching ok? A young teen as to say . And if their minds do get like that “manipulated” lol then what’s that gotta do ?? Did u lose ur mind ?did u hear someone lose their mind? I’ve never :/ . Do u make sense :/ sadly no

Well if people were upset for a genuine thing it would have been better . If u get upset for these small things then I recommend u stop reading that’s all .

And I was just sharing my opinion I didn’t comment on other people like u guys . I just shared my opinion . (Maybe like a rant.?)Coz all of those people who commented earlier mostly all had rape content in their list . I’m not saying u do t have the right to comment I’m saying that if u believe in something do it completely. All can accept love is an illusion. Dakaretai otoko,every other manga but u can’t accept this ? Because it’s not popular . Because it feels right to post here.

Tv has sooo many everyday other things that yaoi would be the least of what could actually affect kids.more like girls .

OMG AHAHAHAH UR GETTING MORE PATHETIC . AT THIS RATE UR JUST JUSTIFYING URSELF ,
i5 like ur talking about an 8 yold. Yaoi is not made to manipulate the minds . These situation and circumstances aren’t even in reality . What kinda load of shit r u even talking about , honestly I’m shocked that people with ur kind of mentality exist . I have never heard of a woman watching TWO GUYS LIKE THIS AND THINKING OMG I DOMT NEED TO HAVE AN OPINION I SHOULD JUST LET THE GUY FUCK ME “ . LOL people do what they like if someone doesn’t like something they don’t do it . Fckn treating 15 yold to dunno what the fck yold. Ur seriously utta my head . YAOI DOESNT INCLUDE TOPICS WHICH U CAN RELATE TO . if a kid reads these kinda things they bought to upon themselves . U know what 15 yolds these days look like? Tiktok users have Instagram Netflix . Every other thing . Socially nvolved everywhere. U think a person like that even being 15 yold would not have known about such thing and would not know about how yaoi iS porn , UK THE PURPOSE OF PORN . THERES A REASON WHY ITS PORN MF . ITS LIKE NONE OF U KNOWS ABOUT PORN .

I can’t see the replies anymore :/ y?

Idk. Did you change settings?

Oh I logged in again now I can see

“If you dont like rape and its a big thing for you. Why would you want to read rape content? Because at the end of the day you wont be happy”

Again: because people can read whatever they want regardless of how they feel about it.

“Just saying you are free to do what you want, but also letting you know there are other options out there.”

Yes, I know. We all know this. My point is, in this webtoon’s case, it had the potential to start off their relationship without non-con. But it happened anyway and people were disappointed. Then OP made their original comment which is outright insulting commenters for voicing out their disappointments. It doesn’t matter whether other manga/webtoons exist—people read THIS webtoon and they were disappointed. They’re allowed to use the comments section to let that out.

I know OP was probably frustrated because of the sheer amount of complaints about this webtoon, but what they said really wasn’t the best way to handle it. If OP really wants to defend stories like this, instead of insulting their fellow readers, maybe they should start a topic about WHY we should give stories like this a chance. Maybe then everyone can have a proper discussion and agree to disagree.

I appreciate your civil reply to me though. Conversations like this can be wild sometimes (as exhibited by the other conversations above lmao chill, everyone). (￣∇￣")

Lol ok so you are fine with reading rape. Lol. You did say you were getting bored so letting you know you can try new things, but yeah if you want to read rape. Go for it.

Yes yes. Life can be disappointing sometimes. I get it.

Voicing Opinions go both ways. Yeah sometimes people are disrespectful and sometimes ppl just like to rage. It happens. We all have the right to speak. Regardless of how awful the views are. I'm a firm believer of free speech so yeah im open to all uncomfortable conversation.

If someone wants to complain and rage online, they have a right to, but other ppl also have the right to rage back. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong. It really just a matter of opinions.

We all live and learn. Well i hope so anyway.

I think one of the best quote i read was "the solution to resolving issues and bringing awareness is not to repress the opossing speech but to have more speech."

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Lol funny ppl had so much hope for this webtoon. I could tell it was gonna be problematic. It did have dark tones in the beginning. Violence, torture, confindment and slavery. Lol but i guess most ppl were ok with that.

Another issue i have is mc (blond boy) seems kinda dead inside. He's always in a daze.

The plot is moving way to fast.

The only thing i like is the artwork.

But yeah im dropping this. Not because of rape but because the overall package isnt very appealing to me. Its ashame. I did like the artwork.

hh it doesn't make any sense for me to try and argue with you more since you're so determinated to maje excuses for authors romanticizing rape (as they for murder, kidnapping, drugging, slavery etc, topics i still don't agree with). If you enjoy things like this, good for you, but don't get mad at people for saying their displeasure.
I didn't read this manga, I tried reading the first chapter but it's not for me.
I also got frustrated at you for your opinions, which I apologise for. Both of you still didn't get my point and tried to twist my words somehow but anyway. Just don't insult others for expressing their displeasure with such heavy topics

Hahahahah

Dude you were the one calling ppl names and such. Now you are going to pretend like you are all innocent?

I mean i find your whole argument so hilarious because you said. You use to read these toxic things then you went into the world and realized it was wrong. Then you came right back? Like what? What happened to your enlightenment?

So you stopped at the first chapter and only found out there was rape by the comments? Then you started to rage?

If you dont like rape, thats fine. If you want respect, you should also give respect.

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Yes, I've came back to site to read others things, not that hard to understand. Even though most of the BLs on this site are dealing with these topics, I'm sure you know I can find others things to read and other genres. The first comment I let here it was just me being mad at OP for trying to stop people from saying their displeasure, but then I got off track and I know that. I also know I was being disrespectful and said some shit I shouldn't have said so I do apologize for that. Not like you didn't try to insult me by saying I'm not the brightest crayon in the box(saying I'm dumb, in others words) but I shouldn't have said something mean back, I know that. It's not hard to accept when I'm wrong.
well, if my argument was hilarious to you, so was yours to me. we have different opinions and that's that, no need to drag this on

“Lol ok so you are fine with reading rape. Lol.”

Did...you even try to understand the things that I’ve said? I said that people can read whatever they want AND be critical about it. Did I say that *I* enjoy and condone problematic tropes in stories? No, I did not. You’re putting words in my mouth when I only answered your question. Why do you keep twisting people’s words? How hard is it to understand that I was only trying to explain the side of the commenters who were disappointed by this webtoon?

“You did say you were getting bored”

I literally never said that, lmao. Who are you talking to?

Lol my bad you said "tired"

"I’ve been reading BL for YEARS, which is why I’m so tired of this trope."

So yeah.... Thats why i said try something new.

I did listen to you. You Said ppl should be able to read what ever they want. I agree. Ppl want to read it. Read it. Regardless of the subject matter.

(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ read it!!!!! You can read whatever you like! Ops i mean anyone can what they like. hahah.

Well umm i did say ppl can rage and they might get rage back.

I mean free speech kinda goes both ways.

So yeah.. you or others can be critical. You or others are free to voice that opinion, but counter argument might happen too.

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Yes. It does happen and it can happen. Yes also disappointment can happen. Lol. Life is sad sometimes lol.

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Lol im glad my post was hilarious to you. I was laughing when i wrote it.

Well idk. It wasn't that i was insulting you. My bad i apologize. I misread one of your sentence. I thought you said because of yaoi. You saw nothing wrong with it and you actually asulted someone.

"i thought that it wasn't anything wrong with it but now i do, and it's disgusting for me."

Yeah i admit the op was raging and everyone was raging.

Yeah anyway i dont romantaze rape. Actually the more i read yaoi. The more particular i become with my selection. I bail out so fast now. Lol

I dont enjoy murder, gore and all that, but i do enjoy dark mangas. I dont look at all the bad things. I look at how the author weaves it into her stories. Lol sometimes they are bad... And sometimes they are good.

I enjoy reading ppls uncensored stories. I think the human mind is limitless and always open to new ideas.

I am a reader
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Well hopefully you find a better manga/webtoon to read.

Nope,it doesn't! Hen stays with Ivan!

!! I’ll read this then . Thanks ^^

np

He sure stays with him but 3p ...... some things should definitely stay in the drafts .

there was a 3p chapter after what I said, so- :(

Yup!

Oh nice thanks !

The fuck
AHAHAHHAHHAAHA

no he's not

Oh ok thanks .

Just Google love at first site webtoon. It's on mangatoon the app or u could read it at 1st kiss website

Ohh I see. Thank u (●'◡'●)ﾉ