Last week I said the shitty friend plot will be a game changer to realise their feelings but man! This sure is un predictable lol. After the cheesy line the boss dropped to confess he gonna go get dumped lol
People here are ignorant. 2 days a month visitation is just right and Lisa is also a victim!
1. I understood Lisa's anger and I really feel sorry for her. Kouki made lisa feel insecure and unattractive. Imagine youre married with someone but refuses/cant have sex with you? He only had sex with Lisa just once!That can make someone have post partum depression! Why did she cheat and ranaway? I bet she is all fed up. Kouki told Tomo that they talked and it's just probably keep convincing her to stay even without sex.That's messed up!Everyone has limits good for Lisa she took control of her life and left Kouki. No woman deserves to feel that way.
2. When Lisa saw them, ofc she's bitter. She felt betrayed and lied to. She didnt know that Kouki just realised his sexuality. BUT truth is he felt it when theyre still together but was indenial/ignorant. He's the root of divorce tbh. She just looked like the villain bec she cheated and left.
3. Lisa was right to take away Lilia. Im glad that the author pointed out in Kouki's convo with Tomo bec Lilia is a growing lady. Having a mom beside impt stages of growing up will benefit her. 2 grown ass men, even if they are gay might have an impact on Lilia's upbringing. Let's all face it. Glad they mentioned that Lisa didnt want to leave Lilia behind when she left. She's in a hurry, had no choice. She wanted to take Lilia but she refused. Maybe she thought it's ok her parents are there. What's just off was taking her away when seeing Kouki and Tomo together. Shouldve been a diff scene I guess. but I realised that was her plan anyways all the reason why she returned. Just so happened she saw the 2 in the act.
5. 2 days in a month is acceptable. Just bec Kouki raised Lilia when Lisa left doesnt mean he gets custody/more visitation rights. Raising Lilia is Kouki's responsibility as a dad afterall. People here dont have the slightest idea how difficult to set up visitations. You have to meet/pick up your child specially if they are young. What you guys dint rralise is constantly going back and forth their parents can be stressful for the child! Kouki also said that Lilia needs to get used to her new environment and family. If her stay with Kouki is frequent, she will continue to be hung up between her parents and it will be difficult for both sides to move on. Kouki is also not stable- HS dropout remember? Having less time with Lilia allows him to focus on himself, improve his life to support Lilia. He's been dependent that's why Lilia said he cant leave him alone. Im a single mom so I know! Fight me!
Chill bruh, it's just a fictional story, don't get too pent up, but i do get your point though, but i also understand kouki, like both of them have struggles to face, so yeah
Man Im chill I just love long as$ doing comments like this lol and I was just instigating a discussion to those who would oppose to my comment hahaha Too bad all I got were thumbs downs. They are too busy hating Lisa but the endings and and Likia's custody outcome is just right
Im wonderingn why this story has a low rating? Both of the stories are actually good and very relateable. Kaoru was an opportunity to Nanaoki and he made the most out of it. He changed I mean both of them changed for the better. Nanaoki's ex wasnt a victim but I can understand why she just didnt let go of Nanaoki and just cheated. For sure they both agreed with the setting and sees his bf persevering, but I think the reason probably he cant tell Nanaoki is she knows she has to throw him away and she probably is guilty knowing she tolerated why he is useless for 3yrs. It also looked like she cant afford to ask Nanaoki to compensate her(remember during the confrontation she just looked away the entire time.) the new bf is the only ones talking. She made the bf play the bad guy coz it's obvious she still cares and pity for him. If you noticed within the week they didnt even call or pester Nanaoki abt the payment. Seme was the one who initiated calling her again.Also as you noticed, it looked like all she wanted was to be acknowledged and wants Nanaoki to change for the better. I love Kaoru btw. That phat ass in 2nd to the last page of chap 3 damn! Truly is a power bottom and when he told his plan what to do to propose I was like awwww. He didnt waste time. Right after he realised when he stay the night, shit this guy is the one. He also admitted on national tv about his love. I mean why is this uke underrated?
Oh the 2nd story we all can relate to it. I am sensitive to smell. sometimes that's one of my deal breaker too to go out with the person.
we all gonna get mad at sang woo at the next chapters.
The guy earlier at the bar they made out. then they fought. then Jaeyoung found them. in the most recent chapter they are okay now
Where did you read the upcoming chapters at
oh fuck he did not. damn sang woo how stupid can you be for this love game of yours. I'll stop here and just read the ending.
I read the raw and he was a victim. They did not make out because he wanted. He was drunk as hell and the guy just kept on pushing.
Where is the raws
I changed my mind. I'll wait for the translation. They freaking cuddling the latest chap.
He looked like he opened him mouth and accepted the kiss. But then regretted it.
I read the raws on ridibooks but if you wanna get like overview in english translations go to tiktok search for user setsunaazegami.bl they give spoilers with summaries of bl manhwas
He is not a victim here. The guy was persistent but he is not resisting him when they kissed. But then he didnt like the feeling of the kiss and the guy's smell but didnt refused just accepted it. He even said in his mind ‘If I can do it with one person, why can't I do it with two?’
‘Anyway, once Jang Jae-young is gone, I'll have to find a new partner.’ - something like that. When the guy started feeling him in the crotch he resisted and guy bit him on the neck that's when Sangchoo pushed the guy away hence why they fought and how Jaeyoung found them
Hmm. I beg to disagree. Though he was thinking that way, he rejected the guy's advances after the kiss and the guy was still persistent, that was when he bit sang choo.But remember, he was drunk that time. Hence, he wasn't thinking straight. Anyone who is not in a right state of mind, cannot give consent. That will invalidate the consent he had given to the guy to kiss him. That will make him the victim in that situation as the guy took advantage of him while he was under the influence of alcohol.
Ain't no way.
No one is forced to drink. I don't get people that make themselves vulnerable willingly.
Exactly! Haha I was about to leave the comment be coz I dont get the why they cant accept that Sangwoo did it on his own volition. Also, Im f*ckin 38y/o and had my fair share of drunken mistakes and one night stands. But not even once I blamed the other party saying he shouldve realized I was just drunk they should controlled themselves.. like? I was the one who gon get drunk on my own I shouldve been responsible to what happens to my sanity and my body. The moment I drink I made myself vulnerable ffs. There's no victim here, Sangwoo knows what he's doing.
just no. stop with the delusion and pull out the victim card on Sangwoo. You gonna eat your words when the official translations are out. The moment he opened his mouth to allow the kiss that's where it started, they were making out of course he will be touched somewhere. When he was held by the crotch that the time he realized he didnt want it. Ofc when he initially allowed the kiss the other party would think he was just hesitating or being shy. COZ AGAIN HE ALLOWED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. It just escalated coz Sangwoo pushed agressively (which is thank God is so realistic coz men are strong i dont get why they cant push or fight back in BLs)That proves that Sangwoo even if he had a few drinks can really refuse or still in the right mind to refuse even under the influence. Cut with the consent and under the influence crap. He is tipsy but he knows what he is doing
Its not about forcing someone to drink. Even if you willingly drink the alcohol yourself, no matter what you did afterwards, you did in under the influence of alcohol. Someone who is so intoxicated is incapable of giving consent.
Yes, someone who is drunk willingly is responsible of what s/he did. However, knowing that someone is drunk, would you willingly do something you know s/he allowed while he ir she is intoxicated? Someone who does it has ulterior motive or just straight up trash. Knowing alcohol weakens the state of mind, would you be willing to do so? If you do, you just took advantage of someone's disability to think straight. This is an instance of sexual assault. As per the law, when drugs and alcohol are involved, clear consent cannot be obtained. An intoxicated person cannot give consent.
You may not be aware, but you can take back the consent once the person involve is not comfortable to continue something you both started. Once he said no, that is when the forceful act starts and it is not just a simple matter of consent or under the influence crap, that is sexual harrassment, which is a crime btw. So stop this mindset. Don't let people think that it is okay to do sexual acts with a drunken person just because he ALLOWED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Are you okay? Why are you so invested? lol. I may not be aware? How old are you? hahahaha I have experienced these kinds of situation more than the fingers of your both hand and feet combined. So I know what Im talking about. Dont bring your consent crap here. It's irrelevant in that chapter. Go experience life first instead of being invested in fictional characters.
It looks like you're quite invested too tbh. You're bringing in your personal experience and age as arguments against the "consent crap".
Well if you think I am then I think you are too. I mean... the time you have taken to read the long ass thread and you even bothered to comment.
Oh yeah, I totally am (≧∀≦) hehe.
It’s impossible to consent when you’re under the influence. He wasn’t sober or in his right mind….
hahaha welcome to the club ig?
Hahaha yea whatever, Im gonna laugh at your faces when chap 80 is up
This is the funniest come back I've ever read.
Are we seriously turning this argument into "I know better because I'm older"? No one cares about your experiences you laid out. Honey, this is not about you. Looking at how this is turning to ad hominem fallacy, we know now who's not growing up, mentally. :)
But hank you for the entertainment. I've never thought I would be laughing this hard. Just brilliant!
oh and sorry for the late response because I''m experiencing life for the past few days.
There's a lot of details that were missed out/not included in the novel and it is a waste bec this story is good. It's too rushed and they compressed it in 46 chapters leaving a lot of details.
- when Haejin collapsed he got a bit of consciousness and arranged the helicopter pick up. He used Hwan's card ofcourse.
-Haejin is always a fan of animal and travel documentaries (like national geo etc)He likes the outdoors and he is not weak that's why he was able to plan ahead his hike in the mountains.
-in the novel after this chapter Haejin went to 2 more places and literally exhausted Hwan with all the chasing. The reunion scene here in manwha is also a letdown. The novel conveyed it much much more touching tbh I cried. Well I'm not expecting that they include bit by bit but it's just the way they rushed things in the manhwa made it confusing.
I mean look at how they draw the baby i wouldn't expect anything from this manhwa, I'll just read the novel
Yes it was kinda sad tbh. It was a waste of the author's work. The first chapters until the their 1st sex I think were drawn well. then it became worse as the chapter progress I still bought 10 chapters to support the author tho.
Thank you! I was so confused
Where did u read it. I still couldn't find it
the novel? I read the ones in english but the trans is difficult for me to understand, so I read the ones in spanish. What I did is on my mobile phone read it in safari (or google chrome) then translate page in the options. The page will entirely translate to english
https://global.foxaholic.com/novel/9999-lovers/capitulo-36/
Thank you dear (づ￣ ³￣)づ
In my prev topic I said that I hope lot of details in the novel will be included in the manga. After I read the completed Spanish trans there a whole lot that was missed. Even how Haejin planned the helicopter escape. It was such a waste coz this is a good and satisfying story and Hwan's redemption arc is also good.
The helicopter escape how did he afford it? I think he used the semes card lmao?
Yes he did! When he collapsed he got a bit of consciousness and arranged it. If I remember correctly that's the time when he is being brought to the hospital and while being looked at the hospital. Im kinda sad with this chasing scene bec tbh this was really exhausting on both parties. Especially for Hwan who is not used to this. His inner monologues you'll find him funny, prideful delusional, in denial and desperate for Haejin at the same time. I think that's the reason why I never came to hate the character even if he was a jerk in the first chapters
I went to mangabuddy and they said it was licensed and their dropping it?? what does this mean even here??
no in here you can already see that they are uploading official translations and that's why it is still far behind.
The manga is completed in another language in mangatoto i think just search for it same title
the novel has english translations in travistranslations.com just search for the same title bye-bye. there are also other novels there like march and love story caused by willful negligence
Shang Feng's back story
- I wanna hug Feng sooo much. His jokes, smiles and antics are mere facade of his backstory and current situation. His struggle to not complain or talk back (even to his mom - but he loves his mom like suuuper ok?) because he dont want to be hated/unwanted/discarded. At first I thought he was just clingy towards Hao, but seeing the reason is because when everyone gets home, he's all by himself.
- Nan Hao's mom definitely knows Feng was lying about having dinner with his mom coz they are besties
- Feng is the needy and jealous friend lol. I know they make it comedic, but everytime Hao's got encounter with his crush he either spoils it or imitate the situation(being offered tissue after spilling ketchup from hotdog bun, opening a tight bottle cap, etc)
Readers cant really be satisfied huh?When the plot is too fast they complain that there isnt alot of scenes for details, when the plot is taking it easy they say they cant understand anymore or it's going nowhere or it's boring now. The chapters are like calm after the storm this is usual when the story is heading to climax or just finished a heavy/emotional arc. It's actually a good thing that they spent it giving us more scenes of the 2 living together coz usually stories like these just ends after the plot has been satisfied. It just looks boring and draging bec of the wait and anticipation. If you read it as a whole it wouldnt look that way. For the past chapters it has all about the MC. I think this arc concentrates on Miho this time