lostikins May 24, 2020 7:36 pm

Still don't like Leon. lol

Bitch all you want in the comments but what he's doing is not right. That's what? 3 times now he's tried to rape/get someone raped since his character was introduced? It's one thing to be a hoebag-- I don't slut shame just you do you, hunny-- but forcing yourself on people who literally with every fiber of their being do NOT want to have sex with you is not OK. Dems the facts, sweetie.

lostikins May 24, 2020 7:25 pm

GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER, MAN.

Go get help. Alex is such a catch and clearly wants things to work out but you are literally driving this boy crazy. He's about to lose his shit and show you just how fucked up he can get. lol

lostikins May 24, 2020 7:08 pm

Stayed for the fluff and the amazing fuckin' art. Holy shit them bodies tho. (⊙…⊙ )

lostikins May 24, 2020 7:47 am

Really bustin' it down for a real one out here.

The only other character that I know of in this series that's really pushed themselves is Haru and we all know that he's at least on the way to his happy ending. I really hope that with everyone around them moving on and making changes Mafuyu and Uecchi will finally start progressing. I see a lot of people bashing on Mafuyu for not being over Yuki but what people don't realize is that when you lose someone like that it really jacks with you-- especially since Mafuyu blamed himself for it ever happening. He wants to move on and his heart is being swayed by Uecchi and the others, but he'll always have a special place for Yuki. I think with time and with being around everyone he'll slowly grow to deal with his guilt and trauma. He loves Uenoyama. We can all see that. He's just gotta take baby steps since he was literally still dealing with Yuki's death up until he met Uecchi for the first time.

Gotta give mad props to Uecchi tho for pullin' through for Hiragi even tho he knows about their past and about Yuki. I kinda felt like it was a dick move to make him finish composing Yuki's song but I think it'll play a huge role in giving them all some closure in the end. Much like Mafuyu's song.

    lostikins May 25, 2020 12:03 am
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    I don't think so. Yeah, the both of them are talented and may have some similarities but I think Mafu can tell that they are two different people-- which is why he's being so obstinate about taking his time to make decisions.

    Bl is lyf May 25, 2020 5:27 pm
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    i'd agree with mafuyu still doesn't love eunoyama at this point.

    lostikins May 25, 2020 6:29 pm
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    Could you easily get over losing someone who was there for the first half of your life? Someone you spent nearly every waking moment with? Someone you went through traumatic experiences with together and pulled each other through?

    What Mafuyu is going through is much more deeper than "lol this is bl" and the artist is doing a damn good job of showing how someone can struggle with the loss of a loved one. I've pretty much been reading this series since the first chapter was uploaded so yeah I might just be talkin' for nostalgia's sake but so far out of all the bl I've read with suicide or abuse this one is the closest to what real people would go through.

    Mafuyu is trying to change. If he wasn't he wouldn't have taken the guitar. He wouldn't have joined Uecchi's band. He wouldn't have written that song. He would've stayed locked up in his little world wallowing over his loss of Yuki. A part of him still is, in fact, which is why he's so adamant about taking his time to make decisions. He's still unsure of what he wants with his future-- but he's slowly figuring it out thanks to Uecchi's influence and his friends.

    His feelings may not be on par with Uecchi's but he's getting there. He's gotta learn to let go of Yuki first and he's already made the first step to recovery.

    Bl is lyf May 26, 2020 4:52 am
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    Riiiight! I think everyone agrees that mafuyu needs healing and having a relationship with ueno rn is really not gonna work out and it really shows

    s.nuaah May 26, 2020 8:59 am
    Could you easily get over losing someone who was there for the first half of your life? Someone you spent nearly every waking moment with? Someone you went through traumatic experiences with together and pulled... lostikins

    One of the reasons why most of us love Given so much is because of the fact that it’s so in tune with character relationships and very in depth with its portrayal of human emotions and experiences. None of us think it’s just another bl, and we’re still reading it despite how frustrating it is to do so.

    At the same time though, it’s getting harder and harder to connect with the characters and properly grasp what they’re feeling. To be honest, it’s harder to read now then it was in the beginning, because at least in the beginning it looked like it was going somewhere with finding love and happiness after such a devastating loss.

    For the plot’s sake, it looked like Fuyunohanashi was supposed to be the closure Mafuyu was looking for. That song was finally supposed to be when he accepts Yuuki’s death and learns to let go of him. Everything else after that was supposed to be Mafuyu and Uenoyama’s development and their relationship.

    But with this new arc that portrays Mafuyu STILL not making at least a few steps to get over the loss of Yuuki, most of us feel like we’re back at square one with the characters’ development. Now, it looks like the beginning where Mafuyu joins the band and sings was just him trying to find a connection with Yuuki. Now, it makes it look like his relationship with Ueonoyama was just him finding Yuuki in another person with similar tendencies (like music and the guitar) so that Mafuyu can fill the gap Yuuki and his friends left behind. Fuyunohanashi doesn’t become a song of acceptance anymore. It’s now a song that acknowledges that Mafuyu will probably never learn to fully let go of Yuuki and find a place in his heart for another person. That whole arc just become Mafuyu STILL wallowing over loosing Yuuki.

    Can you really guarantee that Mafuyu loves Uenoyama? Can you guarantee that the next song is closure, and Mafuyu wil finally FINALLY realize how unfair he’s being and start loving Uenoyama? Also, if he’s so adamant about taking his time with his decisions, then why rush into a relationship when he can see the hole his heart has? It’s not like Uenoyama was holding a gun to his head or anything...granted Ueno rushes into it as well, but if Mafuyu is 100% able to ignore his previous friends and remove himself from their lives, then he is able to tell Ueno to fuck off or give him time.

    Do you see how it doesn’t just become readers being frustrated over the development, but just overall lack of fully structuring the plot? It ends up just being angst over angst, so where is the message of acceptance over loss here? Where is the message of discovering music, friends and love or finding new purpose in life?? Most of us are mad because we can’t see where this is going. What is the point in all of this? We know how hard it is to lose a person you loved your whole life. But we also know how hard it is to see the person you love and give your all for not reciprocating and probably using you. It’s selfish and cruel and hurts the living more than the dead. Granted Mafuyu is too pure to do that on purpose, but it still doesn’t erase what’s happening and all the things Uenoyama has to put up with. Mafuyu ends up giving no effort and no commitment. Even if he’s hung up over his ex, he is still in a relationship and he has to be at least minimally engaged. If not then how is it a relationship in the first place??

    It’s not Ueno’s job to fill up Yuuki’s gap and nor is it his job to help Mafuyu get over Yuuki. Yet he still does all of those things anyway because he genuinely loves Mafuyu and wants to be with him without feeling insecure and Yuuki hovering over them like a swarm of wasps.

    As of right now, most of us sympathize with Ueno because we see ourselves in him and wants the best for him because we know he’s doing his best despite the unfair circumstances. We love him because of that. Yuuki might as well quite literally be the soulmate of Mafuyu, but to put it bluntly, he’s still dead and Mafuyu needs to accept it. For a person who was supposed to see that about three arcs ago, he and his other friends are still taking there sweet ass time getting there.

    It’s also sensei’s fault a bit. I don’t who where they’re taking this story and what they plan on doing with it. But if things don’t wrap up properly, then it’s basically guaranteed that most of us die hard readers will end up getting too frustrated to continue.

    So to those who actually managed to read all that, omg I can’t believe you’re still here and actually read everything . Sorry for that long ass rant but tbh if no ones on Ueno’s side then it’ll be really lonely for him and I don’t want my baby to be lonely . Like I mentioned before in some of my other comments, I am still going to read and and hope for the best for my frustrating and loveable bean boys. We all wish them the best with little angst and lots of fluff <3

    s.nuaah May 26, 2020 9:00 am
    One of the reasons why most of us love Given so much is because of the fact that it’s so in tune with character relationships and very in depth with its portrayal of human emotions and experiences. None of us... s.nuaah

    Bruh that’s a lot. I really got heated huh. For shame me

    Bl is lyf May 26, 2020 11:33 am
    One of the reasons why most of us love Given so much is because of the fact that it’s so in tune with character relationships and very in depth with its portrayal of human emotions and experiences. None of us... s.nuaah

    I read the whole thing lol! but this is exactly it!! you explained it so well T.T

lostikins May 24, 2020 2:49 am

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lostikins May 23, 2020 4:58 am

Now everyone is gonna feel bad for him lol

lostikins May 22, 2020 5:54 am

Who changed the tag to "shounen-ai?" ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

lostikins May 20, 2020 6:46 pm

I love this artist. Their art is just so clean and crisp and the facial expressions are to d i e for. Not to mention the pacing and writing is perfect. Not too fast but not too slow. Pacing is important for fantasy genres seeing as we get introduced to so much new information. If it's done wrong then you lose the reader and end up frustrated.

Bless this series for this incredible balance they have created for us. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

lostikins May 20, 2020 2:22 am

Taste for twisted plots.

Sue me lol

lostikins May 20, 2020 2:06 am

Please, please, p l e a s e let there be a way for Kazuha and Rei to, like, still exist or something. It's hard to explain but losing either of them would be devastating. ┗( T﹏T )┛

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