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ok, i dont agree so far, but holy fuck this comment made me lose my shit!

nvm i agree, and this comment still has me cackling.

funiest comment I’ve read all week!

GAH. I ACCIDENTALLY DOWNVOTED SORRY. (and bless you dear thanks for the links)

Thank you and i love you

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If it does, please tell me. I would loveeeee to read this

Yes but I wonder if she will even learn from this at all

Oh na...it was just a nice thought I had lmao, I know good and damn well she wont

Shallow characters? Who? What comic? Seungho is complex, nakyum is bold for a commoner from that time, inhun is pure manipulative evil with motivations yet to be revealed; hell even the old servant got it going on--keeping Yoon's secrets and staying with him after the other servants left with the main family.And Jihwa? How exactly was he using Yoon beyond the great sex? What made him go place a spy in Yoon's household? Personally I'm attached enough to nakyum to not want to see him hurt.

I dont mean what you think I mean I swear! I'm so sorry, it's hard to explain at the moment

Did you mean the characters aren't fully developed bc we don't have detailed backstories? Even without that enough has been revealed to invoke some kinda feeling/attachment. These characters and their feelings are drawn so well I feel like the artist has really brought them to life but maybe that is just me.

I may have to disagree as well. It's the reason they're so underdeveloped that their personalities remain two dimensional. They're just overused cliches. Recycled character archetypes and the cold and ruthless/naive dynamic. Assuming Seungho is complex simply because he's a narcissist is like assuming a painting is abstract and too complex for the human mind because it has random colorful splatters all over the canvas. He is interesting, but I am excited for his development. If there will be one.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see more depth in the character development but I have already seen enough to make me feel not just sympathy but empathy for nakyum; a morbid curiosity as to what makes Yoon tick (and I see more than just narcissism at play btw) and disgust towards inhun's manipulations. So yeah I'm hooked on the story and attached to the MCs. I'm curious about where joseon commoner, nakyum got those brass balls to stand up to Yoon--those scenes alone took us off the cliche path; also that rich manipulative seme and poor uke dynamic is made fresh here because inhun is cast as the homophobic, sinister megane love interest the uke is trying to protect--a willing victim is so much more tragic. Also the possibility that inhun is put on the redeeming arc is just as likely as Yoon going more deeply into the villain arc so we have that unwinding plot to look forward to. I love that everyone's mileage may vary in the comments too while we see where the ride takes us.

Fair enough.

Na.....I think I met at the time that pieces of them are numb enough to get over any pain to come and that the other parts are so well developed it distracts from relationship drama

I agree with you....I'm going to level (idk where everyone lives, ot their stance of cannabis) but that was using logic that came from being higher than a georgia pine (￣∇￣") lmao. ANYWAY yes I agree with you...I think I was just trying to emphasize how interesting the plot is

I agree with you....I'm going to level (idk where everyone lives, or their stance on cannabis) but that was using logic that came from being higher than a georgia pine (￣∇￣") lmao. ANYWAY yes I agree with you...I think I was just trying to emphasize how interesting the plot is

How are you typing in the midst of a 'puff puff pass'? Respect

Potheads are a whole ass different breed bruh

seung ho has more depth than any fuckboy i've seen in a yaoi manga. what you talking about?

then you’ve been reading some pretty generic yaoi cheif

sis probably thinks bhna and naruto are the best anime

Each to their own, but It'll be interesting to know your standard of a complex and well developped character, then...Can you name some and which mangas/manhwas/uas...?

ok we get it, you're an intellectual who is very well versed in the art of character development in a gay cartoon porn setting. you need to chill the fuck out, not everyone is as smart as you.
also i don't read anything except yaoi and shounen ai.

That’s fair. But ignorance isn’t an excuse. Like are you a fujoshi or are you ignorant? Pick a struggle

At the top of my head I recommend Banana fish and Undergrand hotel, although they’re probably too “outdated” for your liking if you grativate torwards the cliche and mainstream ones. Albeit the first title isn’t a yaoi.

Not all I read is ‘yaoi’ that’s the thing. I don’t read this fetishic material and consume it thinking this is authentic gay representation with deep ass homosexual characters. I know it’s gay porn written only for women BY women. I’m not that stupid enough to think that every moment that seems intricate or unique is ‘progressive’ and deep.

my point exactly. this is yaoi and i've only limited myself to yaoi and shounen ai. so why are you bashing me for thinking seung ho is a complex character? we all have our own perspectives.

i'm sorry but is character development in yaoi something i need to be educating myself about? it's just my opinion, not a social crisis.

I wasn’t bashing you sis I was disagreeing with myafroluv and you joined in like ofc ima defend my territory

You literally initiated it when you said seungho was btter than any fuckboy in a yaoi like you’re just asking for it bruh. Stop victim blaming and acting all righteous. aM I sUppOsE To bE eduCaTed ???? headass

lmaooo who hurt you? i was just stating my opinion. and you could've stated yours instead of criticzing other people's reading choices. ok imma stop this right here, i'm bored of this. have a good day.

Ummm chile anyways so..

Sis really initiated a fight, realized she was wrong then bounced. yall 12 year old fujoshis are a whole ass other breed I swear

I know both. Yeah they're pretty old now but "outdated"? I'm no one to judge if these are outdated or not.
Speaking about yaoi, Banana Fish doesn't count because it's not BL.

As you make so much fuss over complex character, I thought you'd announce some grand mangas with deep, complex personalities but you announce Underground Hotel, LOL. This yaoi is typical of Sadahiro Mika: cheater characters both Seme and Uke and acting like they're bipolar or dummies. I couldn't never take seriously the yaois of that Sensei because they're all the same: sleeping arround cheaters (they still fuck with other dudes while supposed to be in love, like...??). The only differences from other Sadahiro's is that UGH is set in a prison and that the MC is afro with a sadistic libido that's bigger that the guys around. If this is what you qualify as "complex", yeah they are in the sense that their actions are extremely out of space and incomprehensible; it seems like their actions are deconnected from the situation and there's no link to connect them.

You may dislike Seungho or find him two-dimensional character, but at least -even though the author never writes down his thoughts- his actions perfectly follows his motivations, they follow a clear route and all this is pertinent with how goes the plot.
He was a manwhore who slept with multiple partners; now he only have eyes for Nakyum and will do whatever it takes to possess him.
I don't think we will ever agree about this discussion, but I want to show you that what you find no good can be appreciated by other/s and vice versa, and that nobody really owns the true truth concerning these lectures. Yaoi is itself a genre that divises a lot.

At least we both agree that Yule (Hogu) is a demented asshole of the worst specy for him to have given that poor boy who loved him into gangbang! I hate that manhwa and will never understand the interest people give to it.

When you start to criticize the dear ML of some Yaoi, you can't expect people to not initiate a fight afterwards with you. Your words were also pretty rude.

We can also say the same about you, sis.

and i oop...

I can respect your perspective though. At least you know what i’m talking about. And I only listed what was at the top of my head. If you really want some good recs wait til I get home and i’ll go through my list for you.

Can you return back to when the conversation first began and actually read through it? My response was literally to afroluv and only to them and it was respectful. This random ass person started some shit like that’s the whole point i’m trying to make. She can’t expect credibility when she just wants to pick a fight and then she goes oops!! i’m over this!

Like it aint even about seungho anymore yall want to share an intellectual discussion and find some common ground or not?

I went to read the conversation before I wrote "you can't expect people to not initiate a fight afterwards...", and this is exactly that, btw the comment section is an open place where infortunately everyone can reply to us...

Of course I think it's still about Seungho, lol. How do you think all this started? Your critics about Seungho being two-dimensional character isn't backed with some arguments either, you just repeat he's like this and that's all.

My thoughts about this question is that, personally I can understand why you can think like this, but about me, I don't see the Lord as you do. It's true he's done some terrible things that make people reluctant to see him further than this, though as an observant reader, his character's a lot more developped than most Semes/MCs, he's very expressive and we get to know perfectly what he's thinking (joy, cynism, evilness, annoyance, laxism, empathy, surprise, pleasure, lust...), even if like I told, Author-Nim never writes down his thoughts.
She does wrote those for Sir In Hun, but we never read such thing about the Lord.
The Lord's background, like past life, childhood... still remain a mystery -till the Author deliver them to us readers. So all we know about him is his social status and some bad things he's done since chap1, some elements of his past, his current self now and his obssession for the painter... We can theorize about what he can do following this or who he may kill, though there are elements that Byeonduck doesn't reveal yet surely for plot wise. Authors can choose to share the characters's thoughts with us -or not, and many won't show the Semes' thoughts because it's good to keep some mystery (and mysterious Semes are sexy...).
Even though- for a ML from whom we don't really know the past and precise thoughts, we know pretty well his personality and means/intentions, what's he's capable of... We know all these little changes in him that transform him little by little from a polygamous fuckboy to a monogamous Master that only cares about his lowborn, and all this operates in a quite short time.
We can guess perfectly what he thinks because he's very expressive and the Author is particularly good to draw their expressions.

I don't know if you're invested in this story, but if you're invested like some of us and is a bit sensitive it's not difficult to see that Seungho's not like you describe him; he's a complex character. He's someone who, whatever he can do, never does things half-assed, his actions are often extrem and correspond to those of a merciless Lord, though if you look at him in these small details you'll see the guy is more than we thought he's to be and is a lot more sensitive than he shows.

I hope you can one day be open and be more empathic to Seungho. Since he's the center pillar of this plot, one can't really appreciate the story if they only hate him.

Mannn.. if you really think i’m gonna read all that you must be mental bruv. I’m over this silly conversation. You seem like a sweet person so just let it go love.

Yall really be eating out this fictional character’s ass bruh i’m dead yall fujoshis are worse than the kpop fandom.. like it’s NOT that deep. Yall will whine over someone not sharing the same opinion as you until you’re dead.

LOL, are you fucking kidding me? You the one asking to discuss in order to "find some common ground", I took the time to explain why the ML isn't like you think and you don't even bother to read? You're the one to be mental, dear. Bipolar, maybe.

Anyway, reading your comments, you're the kind to provoke others by posting some shitty comments then after, "SNIFF, you fujoshis... blablabla, sniff...", are you some troll?

Yall were literally the ones to initiate it- I- maybe yall are driving me mental.. sis just let it go omg its almost New Years yall have to have friends right LMFAOSKSKKS

Stop to say Bullshit and complain about the shit you started to spread. Reread yourself, you're the one here to begin to say Seungho is a two-dimensional character, then when someone ever took the time to explain things to you, you don't bother to read.
The truth is you were never interested to discuss about Seungho or this story, you're only here to say nonsenses and annoy people.
How immature. Go play in kindergarden where you belong.

I will remember to ignore the bullcrap you pull from your silly brain next time I ever see you.

Ok sweaty

I stopped taking this serious when a sis said bnha was the best anime

you hear something? yeah, that's crack dad's irrelevance. at least you tried knocking some sense into her

yall make it too easy

Woah...I didnt know when I posted this comment it would light up like the fourth of July lol. Carry on yall. Carry on. Play nice lol