The characters are beautiful and the smut is well done but the dark haired guy complete lack of self worthy from start to finish puts me off. He literally nullifies himself as a subservient and he doesn't go through much development. In turn the blondie seems more in love with the idea that someone idolizes him to that extent of just accept whatever terms he wants .... you end up not knowing if the blond feeling would resist if the dark haired guy matured into a more independent person. Maybe the story is too short, I wish there was a longer plot.
Not a very popular opinion but I think Alek character would have been way more interesting if he had been written as a full blown villain or bad guy with an agenda and had an actual plot beside just being this constant what if for Hen and doesn't seem to have a defined role in the story.
I love the art and it's so sexy but I don't understand a thing, lol.
Is there any more beautiful manga the this one? No, there isn't.
The scene where they met... so much brilliance.
The last scene... Yashiro saying 'Doumeki'... this is such a masterpiece and one that truly deserves the title.
Question: Does anyone know who publishes Saezuru officially in English? is it still Renta?It looks like they only have it up to chapter 3.
i meant to leave a like cause i totally agree
That's a shame. Renta seems a bit of a let down for such work. I don't know how these foreign licensing bids work, why Renta is the one who got the rights but to have poor translations and to be lagging so much in the chapters... Saezuru deserved so much better official presence in English speaking market.
My first Yaoi story and still the very best in my opinion no matter how many others I read.
Yashiro and Doumeki, the side characters, the humor, the beauty, plot, everything is so perfect.
Once in a while I come back to this and no matter how long it is, the overall feeling in the comments seems to be the same: readers get thirsty for Mine x Take story without Hiroi. They are just the most interesting dynamic and couple in the story.
I wish we could have had that.
So bored that I am revisiting old stories I already read it to see if my view of it changed...
I know I am supposed to feel pity and excuse the uke in this story but I flat out can't stand him. I read it to the end thinking I would like him but no, I hate stories with lopsided love and the seme seemed to love and care for the other part way more than he was given for. The part where the uke goes on living his life with the other dude and smiling and eating and the bat almost dies of a broken heart ... and then to make things worse, the only reason why they ended up together was because the blondie cheated and didn't want him... otherwise they would probably just still be together... the uke didn't make any attempt to chase the other guy, he was always the one being chased. If at least one single scene of the uke missing the seme while he was living with the other man but no, the seme only got his chance when the uke didn't have anything to fight for or lose.
I don't care for the excuses, blah, blah, blah, the seme loves the uke way, way, way more and showed it and it just pissed me off. Yeap, still feels the same.
Edit: if you going to read my post, see that I am giving my opinion on a story I already read it and then revisited. Each time I felt deeply for the bat, thinking he deserved way better along the story that what he did. At least he deserved to have won his love without a plot that only gave him happiness because another random guy was conveniently made to be bad so he could get his chance to rescue the uke once more. We are always left to imagine which life would be if only the blond guy had loved the uke or be nice to him. I bet the bat would still be stalking sadly watching the uke smile on his new beau. It goes without saying that I am very aware that lots of people do love the character and think the story is perfect. I just happen to have a different opinion and believe me, it's not because I 'don't get it'. I read and enjoyed plenty of stories with the trope of 'abused character does this because of that' so, despite what the explainers on call wish to believe, it's not a matter of not getting what the author tried to do. It's a matter of thinking it failed for me and there was unbalance and plot failure in the way the story developed. Simple as that. It is not a personal attack on you if somebody doesn't appreciate or like something or a character like you do. I don't need you to 'explain' the character to me.
Life is like that man. Not everything happens the way that you want it to happen but it happens anyways. The premise of vampires is unrealistic but the depiction of toxic relationships is on point.
A lot victims of abuse are like the mc. It’s not an ‘excuse’ and it never was. He knows that what he’s doing is wrong and he hates himself for it. After going through abuse, it’s important to learn to love yourself before loving others but he didn’t get the chance to do that. He just plunged himself deep into an emotion that was sweet and foreign without healing the emotional scars his father left him.
What matters most is that he learned from his mistakes and Chunsam loved him enough to let him learn. The mc has his own way of showing his love because he never knew what love was until Chunsam showed him. He’s still learning.
Not everyone has the patience to deal with someone who has emotional scars. I really like Chunsam’s character because he gets mad but he never left Mingyeom. Love is not always pure and that’s perfectly fine.
There are things that you have you to experience for yourself before you understand why people make the decisions they do. No one deserves to be abused. I hope you won’t dismiss the people that made regretful mistakes, please help them learn from it because they might be going through something unspeakable and doesn’t know what’s right from wrong anymore.
Oh boy, yeah, life is like that... not everybody will like what you do. It doesn't mean they are wrong and you are right, it's just a matter of taste and opinion.
The uke was annoying, selfish and the story was badly written on the part where he started with the other guy.
You know nothing about me or what I experienced, what the hell with this patronizing tone?
I hate this arrogance of readers who think that just because one doesn't see a story the way they do, it's because they didn't get it.
I wish people in here grow up and stop jumping on other's posts as if they had been assigned to explain to others the right way to understand a story.
What matter the most is that sometimes you just don't like a character or a story even if you were supposed to and yes, like is just like that. Learn to understand the difference between having a taste and an opinion and thinking that yours is a fact.
Thank you for your arrogance in jumping into my post explaining how I should feel about a fictional character and story.
I did say to ‘let them learn from mistakes’ so I appreciate getting called out since it’s true that I know nothing about your experience, I am arrogant, I have a loose mouth, I get easily swept away by my emotions, and I had no manners to begin with. But you’re also being patronizing with your thank you. Like you said it’s all about taste and opinion.
Call me out if you don’t like what I said but don’t say thank you if you weren’t thankful to begin with. It patronizing
Oh please, you stop by my post, being one of those 'story explainers' to readers who happen not to 'understand' the story as you do ... literally the opposite of saying it's all about taste and opinion and then when I close with a thank you for your arrogance you still have the nerve to play victim of patronizing? You are something else.
Holly fucking shit, that was not patronizing, that was irony and sarcasm, what I had the point to do after your asshole attitude on my post. ... it's amazing that can't tell the difference.
... It would be patronizing if I ever stopped by your post telling you how to like a dislike a character based on my taste and opinion. As I said, learn the difference between expressing taste and opinion and stating yours as a fact.
My opinion is that this author failed to write a character uke that showed the same amount of affection and love for the same as he received. The biggest flaw of the story is that they only end together because the blonde didn't want the uke. There would be no happy ending for them if the blondie was a good guy or didn't cheat. How is that a satisfying plot?
If blondie had never cheated, if he weren't the convenient asshole that he turned out to be, the way that the plot was written, the uke wouldn't need to be rescued and nothing in their scenes showed ever the uke missing the seme. When he and the bat broke up, he just moved on with the other man. When he and the bloke broke up, he almost kills himself. The whole story the uke doesn't do one single move towards the seme, he only gets rescued and his love resembles more one of someone who stays with a person who loves them out of gratitude or because they are the only ones who ever cared for them. Even the blood he gave, he himself admitted it was because it made him feel superior, so not even this bit can count as the uke doing anything for the seme other than use him as his savior for some kind.
The weird thing is that it wouldn't take much for the author to show at least some balance if only at least one minuscule scene had been shown when the uke was with the blondie, that showed that he missed or loved the other man. Nothing, zilch. Literally their love story is about the uke only staying with the seme when he had nothing else to lose. The seme looks not even like the second best choice but the only choice he had and that's the extent of how much the uke ever acted towards the seme.
My opinion: a big flaw that it's the blondie who decided in this story who the uke would be with. It could have been with him and the seme would live with a broken heart forever.
My taste: Love stories with a lopsided affection are not worth it and an author has to know how to balance the 'abused uke/seme' trope with the excuse for the unbalance.
I'd appreciate now that you left my post alone. Thank you ( take as patronizing or not, at this point I don't care).
I don't want to get into the middle of a fight but just read this on the main page and remembered why I felt so bitter reading this story.
I couldn't tell what rubbed me off so badly because they end up together after all but you said it something that I realized ... if the blond guy had been also a good guy or at least nice, there would be no love story between Chunsam and Mingyeom.
Chunsam was not someone that Mingyeom ever chooses when he gets the choice. The bat is mostly the only one who is always available and rescuing him.
One of the worst comparisons is when Chunsam and Mingyeom broke up and the bat almost dies so much he is suffering but Mingyeom just picks up and goes on living fairly reasonable content with the other guy. It's only when the other guy dumps him that he falls apart and almost kills himself. He is supposed to love Chunsam but he can move on when they are not together but the new guy leaves him and he falls apart. Okay.
The story could have stayed mostly the same but the fact that Mingyeom could have lived with the blong guy indefinitely or forever and never more look back at Chunsam sounds more like Mingyeom didn't really needed Chunsam in his life, he just needed someone who would love him and could have been anyone. It didn't need to be Chunsam.
The bitter taste of this story is that Mingyeon never chose Chunsam. The blond didn't want him, he had nothing else to lose. Chunsam was always there.
Chunsam love for Mingyeon is undeniable throughout the story but Mingyeon
s love is so much dimmed in comparison, especially when he never chooses him on his own, it's always by circumstance of his situation.
It's understandable to be frustrated with the lopsided love. Abuse or not, few details with Mingyeom scenes would have made a big difference in this story.
Yes, no matter how you tell their story, by the end of the day, the story showed that despite being the abused one, Mingyeom didn't need Chunsam to move on and have a life of his own. He wasn't dying of a brokenhearted or losing sleep, he was shown to even enjoy the relationship with the other guy. Chunsam however, clearly couldn't breath without him and would never have moved on.
If the blond had been a nice guy who took care of Mingyeom, Chunsam would have spent his life watching them smiling from afar. It's an awful plot to rely on the fact that the blond guy didn't want Mingyeom and only then Chunsam had his happiness.
the boy was neglected since he was a kid, he was left then betrayed, he's scared that's why he looks selfish to you, he's scared to get hurt and be alone again. （￣へ￣）
You guys act like this story could not have a character with an abusive past and still be written to show a less lopsided love. I am fucking tired of explaining why I dislike the uke and the way the author didn't show more balance between their affection. It was already frustrating the way the author made their break up without making any sense over a lame misunderstanding... then the author shows one of them literally dying away because he misses the other ... while the uke, despite all of you apparently denying it, the uke just went on having a relative normal life and relationship with someone else. And it would have gone through his life without looking back. The whole love story only happened because the blond didn't like the uke. A convenient exit but still, a very lame way to put Chunsam and Mygeyom together ... because the uke never chose him. Chunsam only got his happiness because Mygeyom had nothing else to lose. From start to finish, this is a story of a seme who loved with all his heart and how he got his partner because he was the only one who was always by his side. The way the story is written, Chunsam should be sending a thank you note to the blond for being an asshole because had the blondie give Mygeyom just a bit of love, the uke would have moved on just fine while Chunsam would probably be single forever or die of broken heart.
Do readers so triggered just because not everybody is falling in love with the uke in this story can see the problem with the fact that they only stayed together because the blondie didn't want him? Between Chunsam literally dying of a broken heart and Mygeyom being able to live on and even enjoys small moments with someone else, I say the problem with this story is that it shows a very lopsided love and I for one, I am not fond of it.
People who dislike the uke do it not because they don't get it. We do and we still don't like the annoying unbalance from start to finish and the turn off plot of their relationship only have happened because the other guy had to be bad for the plot to work.
Stop 'explaining' the story just because you are upset that some people dislike the uke.
dude, as far as i know, the uke didn’t tried to kill himself because he misses the other, it’s because he was betrayed and felt alone, and the uke didn’t liked the two-timing jerk, he just used the jerk like how the jerk used him, and they didn’t broke up, like you said it was just a ‘misunderstanding’. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ we ain’t triggered because you dOn’T lIKe thE uKe. try to understand his situation, but if you can’t then nEvErMiNd
ciao
Dude, stop explaining the story according to your taste. What a bunch of fucking annoying arrogant pricks your type are whenever someone dares to say they disliked the way the story was written.
Sometimes a character and a story convinces you, sometimes it doesn't. The author didn't balance the characters affections and actions and from start to finish portrayed one of them giving it too much while the other only took it. And again, the plot only worked because the blond guy was not a nice dude .... otherwise they would still living on together.
I think it's you who need to understand that people have different tastes and opinions and stop barging into somebody's post 'explaining' how they should read a story based on yours. One of most annoying things in this story are the 'uke' explainers like you who can't read anyone here saying that they disliked the uke and the lopsided love.
Worst of it is that no matter how many times someone explain why they dislike it, you guys insist on 'explaining' ( meaning, think as you do or I don't get it).
Get lost and Ciao.
what a narrow minded pussy brainless prick. you should’ve not read it in the first place if you’re gonna complain about how the author made the characters or how the author wrote the story. it’s you who almost everyone hates the most, Mr. Genius.
WTF with the children in here. If I had jumped on somebody's post trashing their opinion on something, you guys could maybe have a reason to act like the asshole you are.
What is with the bunch of children like you?
What an idiot whinny pussy asshole you are. Your post doesn't even make sense because one cannot know if they are going to like something before reading it, genius.
Besides that, if people were not allowed to dislike or criticize a work, we might as well not ever give prizes or honor people for excellence on something. Do you even understand what you propose?
Grow up, child.
You take the words right out of my mouth
finally someone who shares the same opinion as me
read this 2 years ago and just happen to pass by while scrolling.. don't worry i agree with what everything you said. til now i still can't forget how i felt bad and sorry for the bat. i never got to like the uke.
Yep, I never liked him from the beginning. The way he treated Bat Boy was so shitty... like he was his owner or sth... But then just when I started to feel sorry for the MC after getting his back story with his father, he goes on and ruins it by sleeping with a random guy. He doesn't deserve Bat Boy, tbh at times like this I wished there was someone else who Bat Boy could get on with instead of the MC.
i cant change your pov but as someone who suffered from mental trauma i could actually relate to the uke....ppl just think that v r annoying or too much.I was happy gyeom met chun sam bcoz he needed someone to assure him that someone could love him too......
Last month the author put up a picture spoiler that showed the top of a head of someone with a loose bum and something behind him that couldn't be distinguished... some said it was a sword, others guessed the brim of a hat.
Now we get to know the full picture and the guesses were right ... it's Nakyum growing up his hair and the object was Seungho's hat
They look gorgeous, Nakyum seems to be in hunter clothes, holding a bow? Maybe Seungho is teaching him how to hunt or archery? Nakyum looks like a young Lord, Seungho is holding his waist and the way Seungho looks at him ... he looks so soft.
Somebody probably already posted in here but there is a youtube video with the author (no face shown) drawing ... too bad it's Korean but you can see the picture coming to life.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SN5Prkp1-jw&feature=youtu.be
Season 2 looks promising!
i knew it it was Namkyun (≧∀≦) cant wait thanks for the video (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I thought he was carrying a rifle lol
I was like whut?
Where in youtube? I cannot find it
You know, you might be right ... I thought it looked like a hunting bow but now that I extended to full screen I think it's a leather strap to something he is carrying on his back and it does look like a shotgun... guess we will have to wait and see if it's part of the story or just a poster.
Doesn't he look more mature, grown up somehow?
They are like a couple. Seughoo is watching him so tenderly and it’s a little weird to see Nakyum with long hair.
Nakyum has to know by now that he can get Seungho to do anything he wants by now. Doesn’t he at least notice that Seungho became a one man lover to him?
yes a little (≧∀≦)
My shipper heart is so happy. I have no doubt the’ s became a couple in season 2. ヾ(☆▽☆)
OMG! Thank you so much for sharing this!! That was amazing to see how Byeonduck works! Is it her offical YouTube channel! How I wish it is!! Her art is stunning and she seems to have some sense of humor as well, lol! Seungho and Nakyum looked so lovely in that panel! I also loved how the author framed one of my favorite poster of them... the one were both were smiling in winter outfits and holding each other. It's definitely a spoiler for the coming seasons. If not the next one than the one right after and so on. They will get together and will be a happy couple at some point it seems :)). Again, thanks for sharing ^^
Wow!!! That's so unexpected. We are privileged to get to see how she draw!! The location she works in is stunning. It looks like a historical Korean home. And that poster of Nakyum and Seungho... damn! It helps waiting until the 25th for sure! They look so cuuuuuuyte, I can't *-*
That attention to details is mesmerizing! Now I understand why she needs that break and so many more. Her art is truly unique. Quality requires time. I am happy such a talented artist decided to dedicate her time and energy to create a BL manga. We should be grateful.
That looks fantastic ヾ(☆▽☆)
I am wondering how much these extra art works of the author are actual spoilers. They could be her way to keep us teased and for her to just have fun with the characters. She painted that poster as well shown in this clip. The one of both of them in snowy winter looking all happy and lovey-dovey. We are still so far away from that. Imagining Nakyum growing his hair to look like a noble, and being teached how to write, read and other stuff makes me so happy. I won't stand it if it never happens in the actual manga :(
July 25
I think someone translated that the author got inspired from the Netflix's Korean drama "Kingdom" while drawing this. So I guess Nakyum is dressing as Young Shin and Seungho is dressing as prince Lee Chang?
i just opened the video and in the title towards the end it says "seungho x nakyum (kingdom version)" in korean so you're right, it's like an au drawing of them in kingdom, not a spoiler for POTN. i'd love to see more nakyum with long hair tho!! but not before i get another shot of seungho with his hair down, we got one panel of it at the beginning and then never again and i am bitter!!
maybe if i slide the author $5 she'll include hairdown!seungho soon...i can only hope
Me thinks Alek had an unrequited love for his snake cousin Ivan...
It seems so~
I kinda hope so...