Hm... I'm personally conflicted. It doesn't seem like rape, because he technically consented to it (in his mind?), but he did say no. It could be rape tho because if you think about it, his ex raped him too (there was never a clear consent whenever they did it), so maybe he sees this as "better than that", so maybe him just letting this happen is him being "used to it", so it is possibly rape. But I'm not 100% sure. It's pretty rapy but then again it's kinda not. It's a weird situation XD
ima say its not, its just rough sex
Bro you literally went like "rape but actually not rape or idk"
I don't think it's rape cause like he said that it fekt warm and nice and that he didn't mind getting burned like to me he's actually consenting so I don't see it as rape but more like hard sex idk lmao ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
It's DubCon
the case with sooyoung and his ex was rape cause internal refusal ("no" in his monologue) still falls under it. not only that there was emotional manipulation involved. but with taesung's case people seem to be confused cause there's bdsm and kink themes in the plot so it makes it complex. but i think "no", in this sense, shouldn't be thought of in context. cause similarly to saying "yes" in the middle of sex out of pleasureable release, "no" can also be used.
like sooyoungs legit been craving for taesung for a few chapters now. idk what people are on about
Loolll, true XD
Yeah, I know, it's just that there were few moments that confused me. I'm pretty sure it's with consent too, but there is always this one place for doubt in my mind lollll XD
When I looked at the bodyguard I literally was like "This guy will be the best character" and I did think that. He was my favorite. Then it turned out that he was the abusive guy and I was soooooo disappointed because he was my fav character :'(
Can these extra chapters stop making me cry? Omg XD It's so sad, I can't- :(
The whole time I was like "TALK TO HER" and when he started crying I was like "GIRL WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! HUG HIM! HUG HIMMMMMMMMM" and slammed my hand on the couch when she didn't, lol XD
I think that was sweat lolol
Oh, yeah, but the last picture of him looked like he started crying XD
It was sweat but he started sniffling which meaning he was about to cry/started crying.
The way he said "Maybe I should have let him have his way" kinda broke my heart. It sounded like something a person that's out of a toxic relationship would say, which he is (idk how toxic it was, but I bet it was bad. Probably a possessive, manipulative relationship. The fact that the guy sees his as his property doesn't help). He's just so used to "If I do what they say it will be fine/better" (I guess) and it's so sad. I hope they actually start to talk to each other...
I'm so happy... CoNsEnT! :')
Like, there are so many manga where there is rape and/or abuse and this is so refreshing! Also it's so nice that they are switching because it's kinda realistic. I like this story a lot ^_^
I love consent! <3
Same!
It was great but I wish it was a little longer... I feel like few things were a little rushed tbh. But I like it anyways
I'm not into incest honestly, so I just ignored the fact that they are related and enjoyed it much more, lol XD
SAMEEEE AHHAHA
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SPOILERS:
So... I just want to discuss, I don't want any fights or anything. Also, I know it's just fiction, but why not talk about it? It's fun to talk about real issues in the fictional world...
What do you think of Doona (the main female character)?
I honestly hate her.
Ok, hear me out. She's an abuser AND a rapist.
Like, she's verbally, physically, AND sexually abusing Minho, only because he's a jerk and that he's annoying? Wth...?
For those who read chapter 113....,
Minho was literally begging her to let him go. (I translated a few sentences. They were in Spanish btw. I don't understand Spanish, but Google Translate is good for these things lol). Like, he literally says "Stop" and "Why are you doing this to me?". He even offers to apologize for beating Haesol (which he would never do, meaning that she's mentally abusing him for him to get to that point). Like, he's crying and begging her to stop doing those things to him. How is that not disgusting of her? That's abuse and technically rape, just indirect. I bet that she's doing it out of fun, rather than anything else too. Even if she does have a reason, no reason is a good enough reason to rape and/or abuse someone.
Also, around chapter 50(?) Minho got raped by that guy (forgot the name) and later she raped him too, even though she knew he was traumatized? That makes me sick tbh.
Like, can you imagine someone you love and trust doing all this to you? First, she cheated, broke up with him, beat him/kinda raped him, he got raped by that guy, she raped him (multiple times), and now she's making him watch while she's having sex with another guy? Like, damn, when is he going to catch a break? Leave the poor guy alone...
I know that Minho can be very annoying sometimes, and he is a jerk, but to rape him and abuse him only because of that? If she like, punched him few times it would make sense, but she's going WAY too far here...
What she's doing is literally a crime, and if Minho was a girl, which he isn't, (too bad for him in this situation) he would just go to the police and report her, but if he, as a man goes to the police and says "My ex-girlfriend raped and beat me" they would just laugh at his face, which makes is disgusting.
(I know it's out of the conversation, but like, men have it rough too. Of course, women have more disadvantages and have it worse, you can't tell me that we don't, but men also have problems like this and much more, so... And yes, I am a girl.)
And how the hell is she mad about Minho being a jerk? She's the same. You can see her being gentle with the girl but she's abusive towards almost all the men in here (but the guy she met in the 79th (?) chapter, mainly because she was new to all these things. She got more and more abusive throughout the time), and, even if it's a kink thing, it's still kinda... The female version of toxic masculinity? Like, she's nice to women but terrible towards men just because they are men? So if you hate Minho for toxic masculinity you should hate her too because she's even worse than him (rapist and abuser, remember?)...
Anyway, those are just my thoughts. I also talked about this before but wanted to talk about it again with kinda more information, lol.
This is the longest comment I've ever written, wth XD
Well i 100% agree with u. But for me, i read and keep it in my fantasy. I would never do it irl except for roleplay and with consent. I think it is alright as long as we know what we can or cannot do.ง'-'ง
yess like ik it's fiction obv but i just rlly couldn't stand how fucking toxic she is nd how terribly portrayed bdsm should be , if they're even trying to portray that lol idk i just dropped it . she's abusive and rapey and i srsly can't stand it bc if the roles were reversed everyone would b like "dropped at chap 53" or smth like UGHHHH i despise her
I agree. Myself from a year ago would agree even more XD This year I kinda got to see a thing more seriously so this isn't that "hot" for me anymore XD But yes, I know where you're coming from because, like I said, a year ago I would be the one writing your comment lol XD
Yep. I kept reading because I still love the manhwa. I just wanna see Haesol and Minho RUN XD Like, run away from her as fast as possible. I feel so sorry for them both tbh... Also I love "exploring" people. Like, what kind of people there are and how their brain works, you know.. So even though I hate her I love just seeing her react to things, see how she thinks, etc, so yeah. Bad people are fun, lol XD (in the fictional world of course). But yes, I totally understand why you would.
Also yes, if Minho was a girl everyone would hate the male version of Doona and I can't stand that. I get that powerful women are cool. I love them too, they are a good representation.. But this girl isn't what we should look up to, so...
I totally understand why you would drop it.*
omfg YES like i don’t understand how people like her, she treated my poor baby haesol like shit and, like you said, she raped minho... i wanna drop this but it’s so addicting :,)
Haha, ikr XD
U are right! I was so mad about what she did to minho, ESPECIALLY when that guy saw him NAKED on the FLOOR in the hotel OMGGG THAT WAS SO CRUEL, HE WAS CRYING THE HELL OUT OF HIS EYES WHILE BEGGING HER TO STOP '' '' LIKE DO U EVEN HAVE A HEART BI*CH !! DOES THE WORD SYMPATHY EXIST IN YOUR FU*CKING CRAZY BRAIN ??? ARE U EVEN A HUMAN?????
wait wait wait, where did u read the spanish translations? :D
That's literally the 1st scene in any manga that has disturbed me. Like, I've read a lots of manga where people catch people having sex and stuff but this was literally the worst one. It literally made me angry, like wth
https://mangas.in/manga/sadistic-beauty
here you go ^_^
thank u sm!!
Glad I helped!
Ok, just read chapter 114 and still hate her. Like, she's literally disgusting. I can't stand her... She always thinks she's the victim of everything.
They were talking about how he still loves her and she's like "But I never felt loved by you", like wut. I get it, but she only sees herself as the only one who's hurt, so she has the right to do all this to them because they hurt her first or smth. Like, what the hell woman. How selfish can you be? He literally looks traumatized and of course he is. He went through all that she's like "Yeah, whatever but do you know how -I- feel?" like, whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt?
It was a really sad chapter really. I translated most of it and it was just Minho telling her his feelings and her ignoring him/pretty much not caring as usual. Like, I just hate her really...
He literally says "You can do whatever you want to me. You can hurt me, yu can make me cry, or repeat what happened today... I'll do whatever you want me to, just let me be by your side." like wth. This is just abusive and disgusting. She's literally making him feel like that. She's not only physically, but even mentally hurting him. This just makes me sad really.. :(
And what do you think she does? She leaves him because SHE WANTS TO FEEL LOVED. WTHHHHHHHHHH
Like I get it, but for real? You just leave him there?! Omg I'm so done...
OMGGG WTHHHHHH, I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN A PSYCHO MAN DO THAT TO THE UKE IN ALL THE PSYCHOLOGICAL MANHUA I'VE READ , EVEN A PSYCHO MAN**** , WHAT THE HELL GIRL, SHE'S A WOMAN WITH NO DARK PAST OR A SAD CHILDHOOD SO WHY THE HELL IS SHE SO DAMN COLD AND THINKS ONLY ABOUT HER SHITTY FEELINGS
Ikr! She's just selfish really. She cares only about herself because she can. She feels like he used her and never loved her so that's why she hates him, but he does love her so wth? Like, she knows he loves her and complains how he doesn't? Wut?
I just realized how many "like" I used and I made some mistakes like writing the same word 2 times in 1 sentence which is kinda ugly looking XD I was just very angry and sad while writing this lol XD
I love this manga so much! Consent, communication, helping each other... It's so beautiful and funny as well. :')