How do people read "His guilt is my insurance policy" and still root for tj? tf
It amazes me that stories like this get amazing art but wholesome stories get not so good art... (only talking about manhwa base on novels; if you noticed all the very triggering stories have nice fucking art)
Makes me laugh when I see others say matching toxicity is a reason tj and Ian should be together as if Ian himself hasn't stated he wants out of his toxic surroundings and trying to atone for a better life. Yall prove each day you do not pay attention to the story or Ian himself. Wish wetsand had better readers.
Ig this is how Ian unhealthy (sex) coping mechanism started, after killing David Kim he needed a way to put himself in control (regarding sex), so he's the one asking first and it didn't necessarily have to be with tj, he was willing to find someone else, as long as Ian had a sense of control and CHOOSING who, I think that's all that mattered for him in that moment. Also something to help him forget what he just did too. Oh Ian...
You can tell Ian is very relaxed with Jo but still uneasy regarding how he feels because everything at the moment is so new to him that he doesn't know if he deserves this treatment and if it's bad he enjoys it. Ian deserves so much peace after all his hardship and I hope later on he comes to understand himself and his own feelings more firmly.
Also anyone notice Jo got a boner after one kiss from Ian so he tried to hide it lol, they're so cute.
So tj tells Ian to take responsibility for his scar and boxing career and guilt trip Ian for it, when it's obviously not Ian fault. tj skip his boxing match purposely because of the deal he made to kill Jang, so it was an important day for tj but Ian thinks the important day was the boxing match. tj did not know Ian was there, so all in the long run, tj made Ian believe he skip his match and went to save Ian. so now tj holds this against Ian for years, making Ian believe he's the bad influence and tells him to be responsible for it. He's so trash and ppl complain Jo's the one manipulating Ian smh.
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Tj: cause Ian lose his dream, made Ian believe he's the bad influence, had the power to get Ian into therapy but instead sent him to jail and put him in debt so be can tie Ian down with money.
Half of Yall: I can never like Ian, tj deserves better, Ian the problem.
Ian hid himself for years and push his feelings down. Ian wanted a label on his and tj relationship and tj refused. When he could've had a secret official relationship with Ian and/or after he got power in the gang but no. He let Ian take the insults instead. I keep seeing others say tj and Ian have an understanding relationship but THEY DO NOT. Both of them never saw eye to eye and TJ has not once understood Ian because if he did then they wouldn't be in a relationship like this for 19 years
Me looking at the comments saying how strong and deep their relationship is, but also me reading the new korean chapter. *inserts Ryan Gosling holding back his laughter gif* wait in due time.
So tj literally reveals Ian isn't the bad influence but let's Ian think he is because he likes the trouble look Ian gives him?? So basically tj puts himself and Ian into this mess (not as purposely) but gulits Ian (even years) after it, saying it's for him (Ian). This isn't real deep love, just obsession and infatuation.
Edit: and despite everything he says, feeling guilty of it, it just doesn't stand because he continues to do the things in present day.
Edit 2: Just noticed the flashback here in 56 is also in chapter 8. After Ian mother passes away. Idk kind werid to imply you finally have Ian to yourself "fully in my arms" after his mother pass, even after tj says it's the two of them now, Ian look at him weirdly (ch8) and in the audio drama tj actually say that part happily (his voice actor also confirms it). Tj maybe say he feels slight guilt but the present time and how he used certains things to his advantage with Ian says otherwise
I have a question. On tiktok I see a lot of people say the FL ex cheated on her, I read 4 chapters on webtoon and so far it just look like it's was over gratitude and didn't want disappoint her. 15 chapters isn't alot so I'm afraid start it and want more. If anyone read up to 15, did the ex boyfriend cheat and a jerk?
Look I'm mad at Eunhyuk for ghosting our princess but DAMN the way I giggled and look away as if he was staring at me hehehehehe
i love how his character is like peeling an onion. i feel like—everyone does— that this personality of his is just the surface and that one chapter were he visited his parents says a lot too.
ian relationship with tj is more like a heaven in hell they've got each other since then, witnessed each other's downfall, each other's cries, experience each other's hell. and despite that they are still unable to let go of the other.
for ian and jo is on comfort side (at least for now) ian was able to experienced some of his firsts. soooo fulfilling to see that. and he seems to be very patient with ian too hope i can see more of ian's firsts with him.
this love triangle is really something bcs I don't care who will ian would end up with ><
I remember telling someone that Ian most likely realized his sexually orientation due to trauma (which is sad and unkind to him) and many got upset with me but looking at this and the raws it 100% possible that's the case that his assault someway influenced his sexuality and it makes me so upset he couldn't realize in a much kinder way.
I feel like many just overlook Ian whole character and thought process on why he does certain things and they just on him with no understanding. I can't wait for the day when we will finally see Ian true thoughts and see his emotional outburst.
Incase yall been wonder it's been 9 since sooae hasn't seen the boys (8yrs since graduation). There was mistake in the manuscript. It's still long as fuck, which is annoying tbh. It feels off for being that long. Be foreal no contact feel ooc for Eunhyuk like he really ghost our girl like that? Fuck off I'm mad.
Decided read the last few chapter and man I absolutely hate Nobu and how he's emotional cheating on Asami, I feel so bad for her and completely understands her frustration and complex jealousy. Nobu bitch ass was about to cheat on her with a kiss. Then he has the audacity to tell nana that she's messing with his feelings when the reason she push him was because he was about to fucking cheat. Nana was literally thinking of Asami and how it would hurt her but not coward ass Nobu. Idk why ppl like him he gets on my nerves and Asami deserve better.
People acting like Jo is only infatuated with Ian makes me laugh, because no is more infatuated with Ian than tj, even when they first met. Both these leads got that same sensation when they first met Ian. Difference is the time of knowing each other and despite the time of knowing, Jo is able to read Ian more clearly in that short amount of time.
jo should be endgame tbh… i reread this entire webtoon because the amount of people belittling ian and jo’s connection had me feeling crazy. while i understand why there’s fans for tj and ian it’s also very easy to define their relationship as something codependent, unstable, and unhealthy in the long run. i don’t think yall remember in the beginning how it was hinted tj used to harm others, and even ian himself, because of his possessiveness and fear of being left behind. he then tied ian down by forcing him to pay an outrageous debt to keep him in the gangs clutches longer. yet i saw so many people only call out jo for saying he wanted them to have exclusive sex this chapter and calling it toxic, while completely ignoring him/tj’s long winded history of one-sided violence
with tj, ian is haunted by the past and becomes a shell of a person that’s not even himself. tj has no plans to leave the gang, and this environment turns ian into a ruthless and unfeeling machine… almost like nothing. their sex is honest and passionate because he’s not fucking for love. to him it’s an act of raw desire that distracts them from the problems they share and never wanting to open up (as ian admits). together they perpetuate a cycle of constant push and pull, where one person is always at the extreme
with jo, ian is able to take a fresh breath and feel like there’s a life that’s exists far beyond what he’s been shown. ian becomes SO curious and has endless first times when it comes to fulfilling things. it’s like his inner child is being healed, and he’s able to be young and carefree. he unknowingly lets his guard down, and is comforted by how alike they are (how they say or think the same things at the same time). jo opens up ian’s world instead of shutting him away
all this to say, i feel like the sex scenes blind tj and ian shippers + fans believe utter devotion = tj is owed love from ian, even that very devotion is harmful or manipulative. and jo doesn’t deserve as much hate as people give him
Kinda crazy seeing tj stans say Jo doesn't have a chance because he's trying monopolize Ian. What do yall think tj been doing for the pass 16years?