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I really liked that the seme admitted what he did was rape and felt bad about it. Also, I really liked how instead of blackmailing the guy with knowledge that he has a small weenie, he decided to hep him and reveal his own problems too. Such a sweet guy even if he planned all of this :D

I honestly feel bad for Jisuh. It's like he escaped one abusive relationship with a manipulative partner, only to be "rescued" by another just as equally abusive one. Poor guy, I'll be surprised if by the end of this, Jisuh doesn't turn insane or single for the rest of his life, wanting no more relationships. I used to wonder why he always had this airy, nonchalant "go-with-the-flow" personality, but now I understand it's to bottle up and hide any of his vulnerabilities so he doesn't have it happen again. He deserves a chance tohave a loving relationship for once.

The card game was really a great simile to use for their conflict. It seems Heejae and Jisuh had been playing in the beginning, slowly revealing each of their cards until both felt content But now, it feels like all three of them are playing a game neither one of them understands anymore. It was as if Heejae, who had craftily hid his cards, created a safe plan (confident that he wouldn't fall for Jisuh), only to have it all come crashing down and harm him. (Just like the stack of carefully laid out cards before falling). Now, it seems even HE has forgotten the rules to the game and they are in a constant push-pull relationship. Also, remember how the roommate depended on Jisuh but it gradually turned into Jisuh the one on the leash? What if the one on the leash is now Heejae and maybe Sun Yool?
Now, it appears that Heejae had been betting on the wrong game to win. He hadn't intended for things to get far or fall in love/more invested, and now the game he was so sure of winning, seems like it'll make him lose instead

Guys, I've reread the whole manhwa up to the recent chapters and what a difference it makes! I am thoroughly convinced SunYool is in on it to some degree and things are going to take a turn for the worst with all three of them (hopefully it doesn't, but I know that's impossible). I have the feeling Sun Yool is also being played here and is forced to cooperate with Heejae because Heejae might have something against him, but i don't know what. The beach scene where Heejae and Jisuh are setting down terms and conditions in their relationship made me realize that Heejae hadn't exactly lied nor denied what Jisuh stated.
With the way things are going, it feels like it has gone out of control for even the conspirators (Sun Yool and Heejae). It seems they hadn't intended to fall in love with Jisuh, and now it's putting a damper on their plans/investment whatever you wanna call it. Whether Heejae or Sun Yool really love Jisuh, it doesn't matter. Both were manipulative and scheming, which is why I think Jisuh might end up choosing someone different (or maybe not). The toxicity of this relationship a little bit reminds me of KS.
Anyway, I've been having doubts for some time, but I wonder if Jisuh's old roommate (guy who dyed his hair blue) might possibly be back again and redeem himself. What if down the road, Jisuh relies more and more with Heejae and the blue haired roommate actually grows suspicious about it, and might end up helping him? The cliche ending would be that Jisuh ends up with Heejae, but I wonder if the author is intending him to end with someone else- blue haired roommate? Let me know all your opinions guys! :D

I am SOOO proud and happy that Yeonduk did the smart thing and revealed all the misunderstandings to Skylar. Now Skylar knows that Yeonduk wasn't horrible to him and it was all the mom's manipulation with both of them. I am like TOTES proud our Yeonduk decided to clear up everything and reveal part of his feelings. And now they're going to go see his mom. YIKES! I wonder if he's bringing Skylar along because he also wants to vent his frustration out with Skylar towards the mom or clarify what was going on. Is it gonna be a mom vs two boys argument battle? Please let it happen! Show that biatch you wont take sh* anymore!!! （/TДT)/

I like how Heejae's sister used the game of poker as a way to outline the similarity of keeping secrets so he could understand. Sometimes it's better to keep them so you can continue playing it safe with others and know that you will avoid conflict. Because not everything in life works out the way we want to, any decision we make can either turn people to support us or hate us. I like the way she's very supportive by giving him good advice by comparing it to the poker game they were playing and advising him to only tell their parents about his preference only until he himself is absolutely sure. Kudos to her!(⌒▽⌒) The fact that she recommends him to not tell their parents makes me believe that she might sense them to be against it or that their family already has problems.

Now on to Heejae...
I kind of don't understand him. What business did he have with harassing Jisuh in the first place? Was it merely due to his intense observant stare that he said "turned him on"? Why would he say "There was no reason for me to not bet on this game"? What is his mission? To simply stop getting bored? I have a feeling that he meant to play around with Jisuh because he got turned on by his "stare" but it got out of control even for him and he suddenly found himself liking him.

The sensei looks and even acts like Yuri with the way he hangs posters all up on his walls and how he's so gullible. Am I the only one who thought this?(づ￣ ³￣)づ

This is EXACTLY the type of manga I was looking for! A lonely delinquent guy who on a regular basis beats up the protagonist like a bully, but develops feelings for! I hope they translate asap because I purchased both raw volumes and my google translation app can only go so far. Now on to my opinion between the four chapters (this is gonna be long since I really love this manga)...

A trope with a bullying/abusive seme that becomes gentle after, is what I REALLY dig (and no, I don't read KS). At first, the story seems like it is very violent; Misaki is constantly beat up by Haru, yet doesn't really do anything to stop it. It even makes you wonder if Misaki is a masochist in general, or seems to enjoy it ONLY when Haru beats him up. But there's something different about this manga; Misaki appears to be surprised every time Haru engages him in violence, and he looks unwilling to get hurt at times, the matter justified in one of the pages in ch 1 where Misaki elbows him in the face to run away.

Analyzing Misaki's character seemed to be tough for me partly because it seems he has contradicting actions. Then again, I think Misaki doesn't even understand himself at times. He seems aware that he has some unhealthy longing to experience the pleasure through pain, but there's this other side to him that tells him it's wrong and that he's disgusting. Perhaps that's why he lets Haru beat him up? My other opinion why he allows the violence is maybe due to his own bland lifestyle. Misaki doesn't seem like a person who is very remarkable. His only "friends" are his co-workers, he doesn't have a girlfriend, he lives alone in an apartment far from his parents, and goes to a low end job. He's a cute but easily overlooked person unlike Honda, his more attractive fellow co-worker. When someone like Haru appeared, Misaki might have "imprinted" (idk what else word to use) on Haru and now he associates his violence as getting his attention. He could have also fallen hard for Haru without really becoming aware and developed a fixated perversion on his violence if it meant Haru would pay attention to him. Misaki's character is all the more strange for me to interpret. If he was truly against Haru, he would have called the cops, contacted anyone, or at least choose a different route home, and the fact that he went along with Haru's instructions to "make sure he can do it properly" make it seem that he's masking his attraction to him in the form of accepting his violence-much like the mask Misaki wears to cover up his face (like a metaphor to hide his real self?). If Misaki truly hated it, he wouldn't have opened the door for Haru (both literally and figuratively speaking). This probably explains in ch 4 why Misaki tearfully shouts "I want you to do it only to me!" showing that he finally realized that those feelings he was feeling were actually some kind of wanting to be loved/desired. It's almost reminiscent of domestic violence between spouses in that the abused might be hesitant to leave the abuser because they think that their violence= interest/love in them. It's a kind of twisted relationship both these boys have with one another, so even when you look and try to analyze it, it still baffles you.

Haru is not as hard to understand as Misaki. We know he's highly notorious at school for being a delinquent, and his flashy image illustrates that (piercings and blond-dyed hair). But despite all that, he is unpopular and regarded lowly by his peers who talk about him behind his back. The only friends he can afford are the two guys who just hang out with him to kill time, but have other important things to do like road work (Tatsu) and playing slot machines (Kakeru). I think Haru's is a lonely character who has had multiple anger issues in the past due to his inability to engage with others (could also be family problems) and when he found that someone like Misaki hadn't bothered to shy away from him, it both intrigued and confused him. This might explain why Haru had repeatedly been trying to "aim for his face", maybe to get a rise out of him so he would fight. The fact that he "seemed to be aiming for his face a lot" makes it seem he wanted to have a lasting impression on Misaki so hed be remembered. (Kind of like how a lover wants to deliver love bites on the skin as a way of "marking" that the person belongs to them?)because like Misaki, there was a part of him that wanted his attention too. There are multiple instances where for no reason, Haru will grab Misaki's chin forcing his gaze to him, or feel his neck, on the guise of trying to look tough (kind of like an excuse to touch him?). Upon discovering Misaki would let him do whatever, Haru's first thought might have been "hehe I'll do the worst thing to him!" and even then, there might have been some kind of crush on him. But instead, Haru began to realize Misaki was enjoying it. (Well, he might have already figured it out before raeping him, I mean, who shoves their dick in their victim's face unless you want the possibility of them biting it off?). And now, we know that somewhere along the way, Haru went from being violent to Misaki, to being more gentle. Though Haru still shows his violent side, he becomes all too aware when even Misaki whom he dubs "a weird guy" admits that he's an "unhelpable guy" (ch 4), which makes him want to change his ways.

I know this might not be the right word, but there is a sort of...innocence or cuteness with their relationship. You can sense the discord among themselves and it feels like they don't know how to interpret their feelings. I call it innocent because I feel neither of them are sadistic or masochistic because they're like children who DO have feelings for one another and a desire to express them properly, but not knowing how except for what they're used to. For example, we know Haru isn't completely sadistic (at least, after the end of the second chapter) because he admitted he felt guilty for putting a tax on Misaki's body in ch 2 and decided to leave. Why did he leave? Most likely because he had feelings for Misaki and realized it was toxic to have sex with the person you'd beat up. Another instance that Haru isn't a sadistic person completely is when he actually GIVES TIME for Misaki to prepare himself before he has sex with him for the first time. He could have easily raeped Misaki right then and there with no preparation. ANd even if he assumed Misaki enjoyed pain, why would he instead postpone it for some other time? What kind of person inflicting violence gives one time to prepare and possibly have a chance to avoid it??? A truly sadistic person wouldn't care about that or show guilt to someone they're hurting.When he saw Misaki smile at the store after a month of not contacting him (ch 3), he of course was surprised, seeing a happy face on him for the first time, and had a desire to have him smile at him like that again (Haru: "Would I be able to-?"). So when Misaki smiled at him humorously replying with a "which one of us is a weird guy?" Haru of course had the sudden urge to kiss him, (and probably also feeling elated that their relationship had finally progressed to having Misaki comfortable enough to smile around him). Instead of a merely sadistic person, Haru is seen as a conflicted guy who is trying to express his feelings in some other way, which stems from his self-awareness as a violent person.

Overall, this was a very cute read, especially at the end where they share that kiss! I loved it when Haru was the first one to initiate it by taking off his face mask. Can anyone explain to me what the conclusion of the rough sex at the end of ch 4 was about? I get the feeling that Haru realized something about Misaki. But I dont know about Misaki's revelation ("I saw him try to hide his red blushing face while rubbing tears away from his eyes"). Is it supposed to mean that her realized Haru also had feelings for him?

I wish the detective's bf wasn't the serial killer. I love his smile and he looks pretty hot. Such a shame... :/

I'd love to see DG growing a pair of balls and outright yelling at Alex that he is unfair and mean before getting his things and leaving (it'll be temporary tho) and Alex will be all downcast, trying to chase him. Or you know what would be better? If some other guy had a crush on DG at school and Alex is there to witness DG and the other guy (let's call him 'Z'). I would LOVE a scenario where Alex is around to hear DG and the conversation where Z tells him "I like you, do you have a boyfriend?" And DG replies with "no" and Alex looks shocked.
I'm imagining a conversation:
Alex: (yells at him) "why'd you tell him "no"??!"
DG: (innocent) "b-but you said we weren't boyfriends! I thought you didn't want me!"
Alex: ... (Realizes his mistake) "I just...I thought you liked me! Am I not good enough for you?"
DG: "I-I do like you but I thought you said we couldn't be boyfriends or you'll end it!"
Alex: "forget what I said! You're not allowed to go out with that guy! If you're going out with ANYBODY, it should be ME, got it!??"
DG: "o...ok. W-wait- did you say we're boyfriends?"
Alex: (blushes) " y-yes s-shut up! (Turns around covering face)
DG: (looks happy and surprised)