The servant x master turned romance never really come across romantic realistically. Either there’s a significant power imbalance or the servant is really only going along with the demands or whims of the master because they’ve been conditioned to or see it as a duty to make their master “happy” and if that happiness is coveting their servant then it’s just an add on expected duty. You don’t really know for certain if the servant ever had a choice or they’ve convinced themselves they considered their ability to choose in its entirety with the result being the master as priority and meaning of self worth.
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How is the very first chapter drunk rape. For fuck’s sake, can’t these authors actually write without some sort of SA involved?!
Stfup and move along ur acting like it’s not common, go read something else there’s plenty of options
stfup and move along ur acting like it’s not common, go read something else there’s plenty of comments
But u replied to mine nigga stfup
Why is there so many new people here?!
If you want to know, SMUT exists.
Seriously what is the mother doing why won’t she put her son in therapy. I simply don’t understand the refusal to write this as an option. Realistically if someone takes their own life statistically those close to them have a higher risk of self harm or worse! If you ever think someone you know or love is in trouble please reach out to them don’t simply ignore or avoid the situation. This plot is seriously stressing me out. I don’t think I could accept this plot ending with the power of romantic love conquers all especially with a realistic depiction of the various forms of unaddressed mental health. It would undermine the entire plot. For those living in the US dial 988 should you or someone ever need to. <3
Mr. Kang’s reaction is actually realistic. I’m surprised by how readers are this upset by how things proceeded because the author chose to ground the story in even a little bit of reality. I’m actually more surprised the author went this route because Mr Kang is entirely right. This is such a cute story I had expected the author to go the “cute route” and have a saccharine romanticized response of ignoring how both Mr Kang and Yiyoung’s age gap and life experiences is the elephant in the room. I made this comment before that while I love this story truthfully these two wouldn’t end up together if not for the powers of BL and a die hard audience who loves pretty boys getting dicked down by a steaming hot Daddy. But I’m fine with that irrational combo lol.
It is realistic, but you do not say to your lover that you are aware that your relationship wont last.
I belive a lot of readers were actually waiting for the drama and spicy stuff, since you can't just keep the story going off fluff.... I also think this sequel was made exactly to show both their lovely moments and struggles of a couple with a huge experience and age gap.
Ofc Its is very common for people (especially romance readers lol) to overreact to stories and its completly fine.
Still leaving you thumbs up tho cuz u aint wrong
Yeah I agree with this. It’s not unrealistic to THINK that way but it’s completely unreasonable to SAY IT TO YOUR LOVER!! You’re admitting that you don’t view the relationship as a serious long term relationship by saying it and it’s horrible. I’ve had people say something like this offhand and it hurt me so much and broke my trust that I broke up with them not too long after. The path you take to avoid an issue is usually the path that leads you headfirst into the issue. He’s probably worried because it means that there no experience in how to compromise as partners but what he’s actually doing is being a bad partner. He’s creating insecurities in his partner that didn’t need to happen. It’s ironic because he’s the “experienced” one but it actually shows that he’s not able to stay in a long term committed relationship and he kinda shows it with his insensitivity. The younger guy is actually being better at communicating than the older guy is. Age and experience means nothing when it comes to relationships. You’ll always have to relearn how to love someone because everyone is different.
Damn when i read that "He’s creating insecurities in his partner that didn’t need to happen" sentences, i suddenly have a war flashback about my past relationship with a certain person LOL ╥﹏╥ but what are u saying is true tho
Yeah it's true that he's realistic but idk man when i read that i kinda have a major flashback dbhshsjsbs and honestly i really did hurt so bad to say that in front of your partner or lover... You know what i mean ╥﹏╥ but it's actually pretty realistic especially from people who have a big age gap like that
I really love this but I also don’t love the ideas of putting your life on hold for someone for that long a time. I mean that’s a long time.
What’s frustrating about the plot is while it’s amazing for properly showing the ebbs and flows of mental health and depression there has never been a mention of actual therapy.
tbf its rather stigmatized for men to seek out and go to therapy. im not sure if its worse in asian communities/countries but i know gender plays a role just about globally. they both really do need therapy though :(
I like this plot like I really do. But realistically they just wouldn’t work with this much of an age difference and extreme life experience and that’s reinforced by this latest chapter 19. Yiyoung would be extremely insecure having never been with anyone prior and his need to meet the standards of his much older partner would mean growing up faster than he needs to grow into himself and make the messy mistakes that actually come with his age and the growing pains of your twenties. Literally look at what’s happening with Sophie turner and Joe Jonas* for this very reason, I kind of wish we had a time skip with Yiyoung in his actual 30s before the two of them had become a thing but it is what it is. I still love this plot given how “healthy” compared anything else that’s come out lately, but it certainly isn’t realistic.
Edit: I believe Yiyoung has “dated” before but I don’t think he’s been physical with anyone before Daehyung likely
It’s Joe Jonas but yeah I totally get what you’re saying
Yiyoung it's thinking wrong. He is perfect for director Kang. He is young and will bring back the younger side of Daehyung as well. Daehyung dated only older women and he kinda lost his young self while dating them. I bet that comparing to Yiyoung the feelings that he felt with his exes were just admiration. I bet Yiyoung was the only one who cried and worried about him. He is the only one who puts Daehyung before himself. And for Daehyung exes the work comes first.
to give another example Rosie Huntington-Whiteley was 22 when she started dating much older Jason Statham, nowadays they both have successful careers, a healthy relationship and a very happy family. An age difference is not always what complicated relationships but the way a person was o was not allowed to grow and be mature enough to make certain decisions and to deal with the consequences of those choices. Sophie Turner spent her childhood and teen years on game of thrones, she never really had the chance to actually live her life before she decided to jump into a marriage. Yiyoung is young and there is a significant gap between him and Daehyun, but it is very clear how mature he is and how he can carry himself through situations that are out of his comfort zone, yes he struggles a bit, we all struggle with insecurities no matter how old we get, but he has definitely proven that emotionally and mentally he can navigate through his own life as a capable adult.
The thing is there relationship actually mimics Daehyung’s relationships in actually just in reverse. While they of course have a romantic relationship, much of their relationship is dominated by the fact Daehyung acts as a mentor to his younger partner just like Daehyung’s previous partners similarly played such a role once a upon a time. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying an older partner and seeking out maturity. The issue is Yiyoung had no life experience of his own and the expectation is Daehyung is his forever. Meanwhile Daehyung has been in Yiyoung’s shoes and lived a life that’s allowed him to grow into himself by having multiple partners, lived in various places, and taken on multiple career opportunities and roles. He knows who he is. Yiyoung doesn’t have that same confidence while entering into their relationship. Realistically he would question if he’s good enough, maybe even feel saddened or resentful that he’s settling so quickly or so young missing out on experiences to meet his partner half way sooner. It’s why I mentioned Sophie Turner and excuse me Joe Jonas because they had a similar situation and are a current public example of age difference. Sophie being significantly younger and having had a childhood crush on Joe even said herself she was insecure entering their relationship but wanted to be with Joe because she became dependent on him during her bouts of mental illness. Joe gave her an ultimatum of when she had cold feet about marriage ultimately convincing her given his own expectations and experiences he wanted for a relationship and a family within his time plans. Now we see the fall out of two very different people at different points of their lives attempting a relationship that was never at equal footing.
I will say of course age differences can work, the issue is difference in maturity, life experiences, expectations, and social/financial play significantly more a role in an age difference relationship than say a closer in age relationship because of the wider gap age has in acquiring the above mentioned.
Excuse thank you for the correction!
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My comment isn’t to say age gaps can’t work, it’s that age gaps have a larger hurdle because of two individuals having larger differences in life experience coming together. My own parents are an 18 year age gap, I truly have no issue with it as long as they are consenting adults. My point is Yiyoung is a capable adult but his personality isn’t, we’ve seen that numerous times. He’s very insecure and unsure of himself that means something, and that isn’t remedied by simply being in a relationship, that’s learning to get to know yourself and what you want for yourself in life. That takes time, that takes making mistakes, and certainly trying things outside of your comfort. Like I said I enjoy this couple but I’m making a realistic observation that they wouldn’t last if there isn’t the foundation of them coming into a relationship at equal footing. They’re not at that point at no fault of each other, it’s just simply the reality. Add to the fact how they met and the setting, there is a significant imbalance that is always the elephant in the room and is a point both have brought up multiple times and is made more apparent by their current business venture which Yiyoung points out muddies their relationship.
This is very cliche. Playboy is taught love. Virgin is taught sex.
So true...
And here we are anyway... ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Cliches are nice once in a while ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
What is with these underworld playboy is punished by going to earth only to continue to be a sex pest and be rewarded with a virgin’s love plot? I mean in general who even enjoys this type of dynamic so much to point of seeing some dickhead be redeemed by more sex how is this romantic it’s so unrealistic it’s head scratching.
I enjoy this dynamic.
If you dont enjoy it dont read it. We’re not looking for real romance man.
This
I’m sorry but tf you expect from a fictional story?
Please learn to separate fiction from reality.
Reality is boring which is why most of us read BL in the first place?
True, this manhwa is literally about evil ghosts, spirits , demons and this person is like “this is so unrealistic”
….well obviously (￣∇￣")
I’m literally talking about the characters portrayed being unrealistic. I give two shits about the plot when its beside the point if it takes place with godly ghosts or talking fucking lions from Narnia. The background plot is simply a vehicle for the characters. That’s literally the point of writing character focused plots. The fuck?