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The bath is a safe place to express yourself (which is why everyone cries in the shower XD). Actually in the Bakemonogatari series, multiple times characters take a bath or shower together and during that they reconcile their differences and resolve internal conflict. I hope sensei does that for these two, that’d be really interesting.

Good point, like it’s a space to let down one’s defenses and wash away the lies. It would be so satisfying to see them together in an onsen, healing from all of their wounds.

lol okay (≧∀≦)

I get what you mean, but I think Akito shouldn't be seen as a child, just because he is still a student. After all he is already 17/18 years old (an adult) and due to the fact that he has to take care of his siblings etc. it's clear that he is more adult like than other guys his age. Also it wasn't said how old Kiriya is, but I think he should be around 22/23 years or so. They are close in age. When they had sex for the first time Akito knew that Kiriya agreed because he was sad. At that time they were two adults that wanted the same thing for different reasons. One wanting to do it so he wouldn't have to think about his feelings anymore, the other using this chance to do it with the person he likes.

A child with responsibilities is still just a child. No one is adult-like, you're either an adult or you're not. Kiriya is 24 years old, they mention it at some point. Spin this however you like but Akito was most likely 17, and if that's not a child in your book then it's at least still a minor. To make things worse, he's a highschooler having sex with his teacher. Even if he had been 18, this is wrong. If words got out Kiriya would have rightfully been fired because that is highly unethical and an abuse of power.

I didn't hate this story, in fact I enjoyed it but let's not pretend that it wasn't problematic at all.

being 17 is not the same as being a child so pls don’t make it seem like the reply above was being okay with child abuse. i’ll remind you that just because in the US the age of consent is 18 it doesn’t mean that’s the case for other countries. what remains “legal or ethical” varies greatly depending on region and culture.

but i feel like that contributed to the story yk? to show that he was willing to do it with anyone to fill in the gap. but of course, over time they fell in love. :))

but i kinda agree,, wish they developed the story more before going sexual.

I never said the reply above agreed with child abuse, you are reaching. I said that to me 17 is a child but even if it's not for some people then it's definitely still being a minor and that's just a fact. Last I checked, relationships between minors and adults are still frowned upon, especially when they're student-teacher.

A little information, in Japan someone considered as an adult when they reached 20 years old. So yeah considering this, Akito is indeed still a child by law. Also for Japanese people, an adult dating a minor is a big no. But, regardless this is a great story. I love it :)

Actually in japan the legal age of consent is 13 so technically Akito would be considered adult enough to consent to this relationship. Akito also seems very mature by what we see in the story he has grown up fast and is taking on the responsibility of caring for his siblings that is no easy thing to do. I do think they could have built up the relationship more between the two it seemed kind of rushed and in all honesty i enjoyed the story of the friend since the pacing was well done and i really enjoyed there dynamic.

Age of consent or not, a 13 year old just like a 17 year old is still considered to be a child by law. And no one said it was illegal, we said it's frowned upon. There's also a different between a minor consenting to have sex with another minor and a minor consenting to have sex with an adult by law. The latter case would be disputable in court if there's evidence of abuse of power. Student-teacher relationships fall right into that category which is why even university professors avoid dating their adult students or at least hide it. When the student is a minor, it's another aggravating circumstance.

Yeah true. If you read a lot of manga with Highschool’s teacher-student relationship. They either try to hide their relationship, wait the other to graduate first or maybe the teacher will try to transfer to another school so they wont get caught in relationship. This is only a fiction but there is some culture behind it.

a 17 year old is by no means or measure a child lol a 17 year old can be days from being 18 and the only thing that changes them from being child to adult is hours? flawed reasoning. in most countries in the world a 17 yo can do pretty much anything.

A 17 year old is a child by law in Japan and in a lot of other countries as well. This is not debatable, this is a fact. And yes, what separates them from being adults can be days, minutes, hours, seconds. That's how the law works.

LOL minor =/= child bro what is wrong with you. a 5 yo is not the same as a 17 yo. this twitter logic really rotting y’all’s brains. anyway have a nice life some perv

Sure it's a fact that Akito was a student and Kiriya worked as a teacher at his school, but I think these two never had a real teacher/student relationship. I mean Kiriya was never Akito's teacher, and Akito never saw him as his teacher either, he always looked at him as the man he fell in love with. So they never had the normal teacher/student dynamics. And the one who started their relationship was Akito, so I think it is wrong to say Kiriya abused his power as a teacher. I mean Akito is around 17/18 years old and consented to their relationship, they were also hiding their short friendship+ relationship and they only started dating after Akito graduated. Like this I don't see a real problem, because the law is not saying that a minor and an adult can't date.

Have a nice life ignoring the law too, ash.

Yes but that doesn't matter. Kiriya is a teacher. Akito is a student at the same school. That makes Kiriya responsible for Akito's well-being as a teacher even if he doesn't directly teach him. It's forbidden for a highschool teacher to date a student in the school they're working at. Even if the student is 17 with a lot of responsibilities at home, even if the student is 17 and consented, even if the student is 17 and initiated it.
I don't get why this is being debated.

But they didn't date each other while Akito was a student.

? Yes they did.

No, they had a friendly relationship and had sex twice , so they had friendship+, but they only started dating the day Akito graduated.

Hahaha oh yeah, sure. I would have love to see a scene where they get caught by the headmaster. I wonder how the "we had a friendly relationship and had sex twice but we're totally not dating" excuse would have worked. Hopefully the characters wouldn't have been been stupid enough to even try it.

I don't know why you're pretending to be clueless but in real life any kind of intimate relationship is forbidden. That includes "friendships +" and the "we only had sex twice" kind of relationships.

not ignoring the law at all actually. i know the law and know that because it is lawful does not mean it is good. also i was never here to debate whether that they did was correct or not cause that’s a big matter of opinion. i was debating whether or not a 17 yo was a child which is factually incorrect. i will repeat myself since you clearly didn’t understand: 17 year olds arent by any means or measure children.

17 years old are children by law.

LMAO no they are not man. 17 yo can consent and 5 yo can’t. simple really. 17 year olds are not children under the law or biology or chemically or any way possible lol have you even been 17 man?

17 years old are children by law.

no, they literally aren’t.

17 years old are literally children by law.

totally agree. i dropped this at chapter 3 because i was so put off by how quickly he gave in to his student's request to f*ck. he could have definitely waited for akito to graduate - at the VERY least - before agreeing to sleep with the minor.

17 years olds are literally not children by any standard

17 years old are literally children by law.

LMFAOOOO