some perv December 3, 2020 9:39 pm

Sorry to sound like a bitch but I miss the intelligent old posters who:

1- didn't complain all the time because they're too lazy to remember the story (bitch please, that's on you and your memory, not the author's fault)
2- didn't complain because the story is heavy on the plot and lighter on the sex. This is a masterpiece in the making so the author is taking her sweet time with developing the actual relationship, as she should. If all you care about is sex, please go read the other thousands of BL's on this website that have the male leads fuck after the first eye contact.

Above all, I'm tired of people hating on Yashiro. Yes he's crude, he has a sadistic streak and yes, he has hurt Doumeki. He's not above criticism. However, friendly reminder that time and time again, he has asked Doumeki to LEAVE the yakuzas and Doumeki REFUSED. He did it nicely in the beginning when there was no immediate danger but he had to be strict once Doumeki's life started to be in danger just because some people were targeting Yashiro and Doumeki was in the way.

All he's ever done is try to protect Doumeki. From the beginning he thought Doumeki should and could get a decent job instead of being a yakuza's bodyguard. After a while, it became about saving Doumeki's life. Doumeki is stubborn as hell and won't listen when he asks nicely so what was he supposed to do?

Right now he's being unnecessarily mean because he's realising that Doumeki's love for him messed up his entire life. His face is scarred, he's missing his pinky. He's 100% yakuza now, he won't ever be able to get a normal job and a normal life. Yashiro, who thinks of himself as pure trash that doesn't deserve to live (let me remind you that he literally went on a suicide mission on purpose before the timeskip), has all the right reasons to be angry because of that. The way he sees it, Doumeki threw away his life for nothing. Snarky remarks are all he's got to cope with the situation.
Furthermore, have compassion for a rape survivor. This isn't the usual "uke" who's being undecisive for silly reasons. Yashiro literally is still suffering from PTSD from being raped for years as a child, being abandoned by his parents and being forced to join the violent world of the yakuzas at the age of 19, not to mention being sexually degraded by dozens of men since he was a teenager because of said trauma. Yes, he was seeking out these violent hookups but don't think for a second that it didn't have an impact on his soul and his psyche. Every single hookup was a re-enactment of his rape and a way to convince himself that he's unworthy of love, unworthy of knowing happiness, unworthy to live. The author is being extremely accurate with her portrayal of PTSD caused by rape and I'll always be grateful for that.

I'll also end on that note: Yashiro has no obligation to return Doumeki's feelings, no matter how pure and deep Doumeki's love is. I see lots of people complaining about that, and you sound like incels. If someone loves you very much that doesn't mean you have to love them back. Of course people who actually pay attention to the story know that Yashiro is passionately in love with Doumeki so I don't get the complaints to begin with but just wanted to point that out.

    YAOI is an acronym December 3, 2020 9:02 pm

    yes.

    MerrickM December 3, 2020 9:30 pm

    All of the above.

    tumblrlurker December 3, 2020 10:51 pm

    Agree with you 100%. The characters not in no way perfect, but that was how the author intended them to be. That being said, my suggestion is to stay away from Mangago as it's just riddled with ungrateful whiners (not generalizing, but I'm saying there's plenty) who are used to reading shallow webtoons that update 5 panels every week and now think they somehow have the right to demand updates when they don't pay for shit. Go to Tumblr or if you wanna see decent comments from fans who truly appreciate this work for what it is.

    tumblrlurker December 3, 2020 10:53 pm

    Or Discord. Anywhere but here really

    some perv December 3, 2020 10:59 pm
    Agree with you 100%. The characters not in no way perfect, but that was how the author intended them to be. That being said, my suggestion is to stay away from Mangago as it's just riddled with ungrateful whine... tumblrlurker

    Haha, I agree and I know. I've been in the saezuru fandom since 2011 and it used to be rather big and active on Tumblr but I feel like it's been pretty much dead since a few years. I'm finding it more and more difficult to find a place to read good saezuru discourse like I used to. I don't know if the other original fans lost interest or just moved on from Tumblr. To be fair, this manga has been going on for a decade but I'm still here lurking and sometimes I just can't stand reading stupid comments on a BL of this caliber so I go off like this.

    some perv December 3, 2020 11:00 pm
    Or Discord. Anywhere but here really tumblrlurker

    I'm not a fan of discord, it goes too fast for me.

    MerrickM December 3, 2020 11:16 pm
    Haha, I agree and I know. I've been in the saezuru fandom since 2011 and it used to be rather big and active on Tumblr but I feel like it's been pretty much dead since a few years. I'm finding it more and more ... some perv

    i guess most people moved on from tumblr, sadly. They are now either on Twitter or on Discord or don't bother with fandoms anymore. I feel like fandoms are a dying bunch all together. Or at least in the shape and form me know them.

    tumblrlurker December 3, 2020 11:20 pm
    Haha, I agree and I know. I've been in the saezuru fandom since 2011 and it used to be rather big and active on Tumblr but I feel like it's been pretty much dead since a few years. I'm finding it more and more ... some perv

    Ikr. most fans abandoned Tumblr when that stupid censorship was placed 2 or 3 years back. Cost Tumblr millions and did not really prevent porn bots from popping up anyway, but hey, at least their conscience is clean! Haha. Anyway, most of the discussions happen in Discord nowadays but I'm really not a fan of that platform as well as like you said, it's too fast (and I'm too old to keep up hahaha). But if you follow or message the right users, I'm sure they'll be more than welcome to discuss Saezuru with you! Folks there are generally nice :)

    some perv December 3, 2020 11:27 pm
    i guess most people moved on from tumblr, sadly. They are now either on Twitter or on Discord or don't bother with fandoms anymore. I feel like fandoms are a dying bunch all together. Or at least in the shape a... MerrickM

    I know and that is so sad. They're also way more intense but short-lived so it's hard to keep the pace.

    some perv December 3, 2020 11:28 pm
    Ikr. most fans abandoned Tumblr when that stupid censorship was placed 2 or 3 years back. Cost Tumblr millions and did not really prevent porn bots from popping up anyway, but hey, at least their conscience is ... tumblrlurker

    Thanks. Maybe I'll give it a try sometime. Tbh I don't really like to write, I mainly read stuff. I've been kicked of the Steve discord though so there's that. So unless there's another discord I probably won't join. Thanks for the recommendation though, it's appreciated.
    And also fuck Tumblr for ruining fandoms for everyone.

    Yuki December 4, 2020 12:27 am

    Yashiro is such a complex and fascinating character. It's a shame people can't appreciate how well he's written.

    Ley December 4, 2020 4:04 am

    Thank you.

    safia December 4, 2020 8:56 am

    Totally agree with u ,this has become this much of interesting because of the way that it is

    teatea May 16, 2021 10:27 pm

    *audience goes crazy* Yes, just yes. This is it right here.

    pinkmoth May 20, 2021 3:43 pm

    Amen

    some perv May 20, 2021 6:16 pm

    I can't believe people are still finding this comment

    nocontrol May 29, 2024 10:36 pm
    I can't believe people are still finding this comment some perv

    Certified evergreen banger comment✧

some perv December 2, 2020 12:45 am

Can the homophobic kids in this comment section stop exposing their ignorance of the real world by saying that it's unrealistic for two brothers to be gay? Thanks

    kunaa December 2, 2020 1:06 am

    PEERRRIOODD

    Sinner December 2, 2020 1:51 am

    Riiiiight!!! I have a relative , the 2 older brothers are both gay and their younger sister is lesbian. Im not even kidding.

    Trin December 2, 2020 5:18 am

    A really famous celeb from Philippines, Vice Ganda, all his brothers including him is part of the LGBTQ+ community.

    Ish26 December 2, 2020 9:07 am

    For anyone who thinks it’s weird for their to be so many gay family members I’d like to inform you that it’s actually weirder for there not to be another gay family member. You don’t usually see it in both patent and child but I’ve notice a lot of gay youths I meant had a gay aunt or uncle and I even met a pair of twins that were gay and lesbian respectively, because of this I’ve wondered if there is a genetic component to being gay and straight if it is actually more hereditary like a recessive gene similar to the blue eyes trait.

some perv November 30, 2020 11:55 pm

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/under_my_skin/uu/mpn_chapter-2441223/pg-25/
The way Kudou is desperately moving his hips to give Satou pleasure but ends up losing himself in his own pleasure
The way Satou is letting Kudou fuck him and just admires him from below and tells him it feels amazingly good, only arousing Kudou even more

10/10

    Jasminili November 30, 2020 4:57 pm
    more spoilers https://saezuru-wings.tumblr.com/post/636214350805434368/lustfulcat-moar-spoilers-sobs-into-my-keyboard some perv

    omg thanks but what is happening??:O

    Yuki November 30, 2020 11:03 pm

    I'm dying to know what they're saying!

    some perv November 30, 2020 11:47 pm
    omg thanks but what is happening??:O Jasminili

    well the summary explains it

    some perv November 30, 2020 11:49 pm
    I'm dying to know what they're saying! Yuki

    same answer as above
    and in the first link yashiro asks doumeki to move because he's getting out of the bath but doumeki refuses and tells him he doesn't have to obey him since he's no longer his subordinate. And then he asks him if he can have sex with him. Also he calls him "yashiro-san" instead of "kashira" (boss)

    Tortugas December 1, 2020 3:26 am
    same answer as aboveand in the first link yashiro asks doumeki to move because he's getting out of the bath but doumeki refuses and tells him he doesn't have to obey him since he's no longer his subordinate. An... some perv

    Yashiro looked so crestfallen when Doumeki told the girl they weren’t friends, only guests. Loved to see his reaction when Doumeki referred to that other guy as kashira, too. The actor’s mask cracked. He really thinks the spell has been broken and Doumeki has changed. That boundless love is still there but the altered dynamics between them is going to make it much more interesting!!!

    Yuki December 1, 2020 2:26 pm
    same answer as aboveand in the first link yashiro asks doumeki to move because he's getting out of the bath but doumeki refuses and tells him he doesn't have to obey him since he's no longer his subordinate. An... some perv

    Thanks for the explanation! For some reason I can't see the summary. The post only shows the images.

    some perv December 1, 2020 2:43 pm
    Thanks for the explanation! For some reason I can't see the summary. The post only shows the images. Yuki

    weird..stupid question maybe but did you scroll down?

    some perv December 1, 2020 2:44 pm
    Yashiro looked so crestfallen when Doumeki told the girl they weren’t friends, only guests. Loved to see his reaction when Doumeki referred to that other guy as kashira, too. The actor’s mask cracked. He re... Tortugas

    yep but it also means more misunderstandings which is frustrating

    Jasminili December 1, 2020 3:38 pm

    Doumeki asks if they can have sex??? OMG. What do you think he will answer?

    Yuki December 1, 2020 11:58 pm
    weird..stupid question maybe but did you scroll down? some perv

    I did scroll down, it's weird. I had to open the post on the app to be able to see it. 

some perv November 26, 2020 2:17 am

Um whatever happened to waiting until Lezhin releases the official translation? It also makes the author lose money.

    saeran's personal hand holder November 26, 2020 5:38 am

    Idk lmao i told everyone to wait patiently since the manhwa has continued and i’ll upload as they come out but someone went ahead and posted anyway. Kind of rude tbh

    dis creep November 26, 2020 7:20 am
    Idk lmao i told everyone to wait patiently since the manhwa has continued and i’ll upload as they come out but someone went ahead and posted anyway. Kind of rude tbh saeran's personal hand holder

    I'm still really thankful the uploaderrrr

    saeran's personal hand holder November 26, 2020 7:57 am
    I'm still really thankful the uploaderrrr dis creep

    yeah but if this translator drops this after uploading up to ch 38 we’re going to have to wait till the end of January 2021 for a new chapter TT

    dis creep November 26, 2020 9:35 am

    Oh is that when 39 will be updated in the official English Lezhin translations?

    Sobs I guess we will need to rely on Google translate until then :(

some perv November 24, 2020 8:12 pm

Could have done without the rape in ch8 but cute read otherwise

some perv November 24, 2020 12:19 am

We need more stories about realistic lesbian relationships like this one.
I'm tired of the highschool girl trope even though it's cute, give me full-fleshed adult relationships like this pls

some perv November 24, 2020 12:11 am

J-6...I'm counting the days every day.

some perv November 24, 2020 1:21 am

Why was Ren at the mixer in chapter 1? Is he gay or bisexual? Cause he also had no interest in the women there but it could also be that he's bisexual and only Kudou caught his attention.

    LadyBelle November 24, 2020 12:14 am

    Think he's demi sexual. He wasn't interested in the women or the men. He went to the mixer because that was the socially proper thing to do. He didn't really feel sexual attraction to any person until after in a relationship with them.

    some perv November 24, 2020 12:20 am
    Think he's demi sexual. He wasn't interested in the women or the men. He went to the mixer because that was the socially proper thing to do. He didn't really feel sexual attraction to any person until after in ... LadyBelle

    Yep that's why Kudou was there but I'm asking about Ren, the other guy.

    LadyBelle November 24, 2020 12:32 am
    Yep that's why Kudou was there but I'm asking about Ren, the other guy. some perv

    Oh, lol. I am horrible with names. I think he was just there for a free drink. His friends dragged him along to fill out numbers. Don't know that for sure, but until he saw Kudou and got interested, he seemed to be just putting up with the entire thing.

    some perv November 24, 2020 1:25 am

    Um not sure why the replies someone posted disappeared... But okay, I think you're right he was probably there because they needed attractive men to even out the numbers and he took the opportunity to have free drinks. Kind of like Kudou actually.

    some perv November 24, 2020 1:55 am

    Nvm they're back

some perv November 23, 2020 8:52 pm

They're too cute

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