max2payne0 November 1, 2019 7:53 pm

I honestly wouldn't feel sorry if this kid died, not even a little bit. It was already weird when he started feeling up the vampire. Aside from the fact that this is practically a 400 year old floating corpse, he KNOWS that this is a vampire, and the guy is alive, and very possibly awake, but is taking liberties. Not cool. Then, he goes and kisses his best friend in front of everyone, including the girlfriend. Very many shades of not cool, even if I'm here for the bl myself.

And then the talk with the said girlfriend and how he went about that, he should have tried to talk her down, not act all entitled. He shouldn't have done something he'd need to apologize for in the first place, but that couldn't be helped, he didn't handle this properly at all, and he could have at least run after that girl when she went off ALONE since they already knew there were murders happening around that area. At least he could have told someone, or he wouldn't have been picked up so quickly by those damn cops! That last sentence he said just as the girl ran away "you indeed don't know him as I do" or something along those lines, I hate that. It's even worse that the girl goes off and dies! This is the MC, but in an indirect way, he got someone killed and that is not cool with me, especially since I see no problem with this girl or how she reacted, it was warranted. He didn't do the killing, but I am still blaming that girl's death on him.

As of ch21, I'm probably going to keep reading just to know how the story goes, because it's taken this long just to see the vampire open his eyes again and I hope the plot moves from now on, but I will not be letting go of this guy's idiocy. At this point, I'm only reading for the blond vampire so if he disappoints me over the next few chapters, I can take this off my list of waiting-to-update stories.

I also want that vampire woman dead, but that's it.

    jana_83 November 1, 2019 8:30 pm

    ROFLMAO-ing

    Invinciblebu November 1, 2019 11:54 pm

    I can feel the fire coming from ur words .. lol it’s hot af bruh calm down

    Nara Rim November 2, 2019 2:30 pm

    Well that’s vindictive of you.

    Azaevir November 2, 2019 2:56 pm

    While I agree that he made a number of bad choices, I don't think he deserves to die. He didn't actually wish for her to die and he was overly sensitive and frustrated because he was despairing over a seemingly hopeless love. As for feeling up the vampire, if he really knew the guy is alive then it was truly a shitty thing to do but for some reason it feels like he was in a 'dream state' where he didn't really register it all. He might have only half believed the guy was a living vampire or he was completely out of it.

    Mrs. Worldwide Handsome November 3, 2019 3:03 am

    Oh, come on. I dont have a single friend, NOT ONE, who hasn't been a complete idiot when they fell in love. They all did things they shouldn't have done. It doesn't mean they deserve to die with their throats slit tied to weights, slowly drowing in cold ocean water lmao

    max2payne0 October 27, 2020 1:27 pm

    I only just saw this thread again and I'll leave this here: I am absolutely not looking for realism in this story so I won't apologize or try to reason for the kid's actions. I never did read it again, but the dead girl bothered me too much.

    jana_83 October 27, 2020 10:59 pm
    I only just saw this thread again and I'll leave this here: I am absolutely not looking for realism in this story so I won't apologize or try to reason for the kid's actions. I never did read it again, but the ... max2payne0

    I decided it wasn't worth my time or effort to try to understand/follow and dropped it.

    max2payne0 October 28, 2020 10:24 pm
    I decided it wasn't worth my time or effort to try to understand/follow and dropped it. jana_83

    That's honestly my problem with most Chinese manhua. Even for the really good ones you'd have to abandon sense and logic to follow the story. I've read maybe 3 good ones.

    jana_83 October 29, 2020 5:19 am
    That's honestly my problem with most Chinese manhua. Even for the really good ones you'd have to abandon sense and logic to follow the story. I've read maybe 3 good ones. max2payne0

    Fair. And the art isn't really my taste usually either. And then there's the censoring.
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a well written, mushy shounen ai too... but it needs to be just that, well written. This didn't hit't it for me. lol

    jana_83 October 29, 2020 5:50 am
    That's honestly my problem with most Chinese manhua. Even for the really good ones you'd have to abandon sense and logic to follow the story. I've read maybe 3 good ones. max2payne0

    I think Circle was Chinese. I really liked that one.

    max2payne0 October 30, 2020 12:03 am
    I think Circle was Chinese. I really liked that one. jana_83

    Thanks, I'll check it out. If its BL, one I've followed and really like is 'here u are.' Its a masterpiece. There's one other BL I don't remember the name of and one hetero that I found recently. Good art and good story, but for the rest, even if the art is really pretty, the stories get hard to follow after a while.

max2payne0 October 28, 2019 8:09 pm

I found this story a long time ago and I still go back to reread it often because of how the relationship develops, plus the sexy art.

First, I completely think yoshitaka was falling for kawamura while still in school. There's a scene after they're together for the first time that makes me think so. But he thought kawamura was straight, he even said he had a girlfriend. Then, when he left after the thing with his dad, kawamura sent the sempai after him.
Kawamura on the other hand thought of him as a friend, didn't think of him as more than that until he found out he and the sempai were a thing, and it was right when yoshitaka was leaving and he never went back. He realized it was love late, but he did date girls before they met each other. Its just not shown in the manga, but he mentions last having a girlfriend in college, so he did date while they were separated, he just didn't forget the emotions from high school, perhaps because they were never realized.
As for sempai, I don't know what to think about him, but I totally believe yoshitaka and kawamura had mutual feelings for each other, and there is no betrayal. There's nothing wrong with yoshitaka staying in contact with the sempai as long as that's all it was. There's also nothing wrong with him sleeping with glasses sempai as he wasn't with anyone at the time, he was free to do as he pleased. It'll bother some people anyway, me as well if he'd done it after knowing kawamura's feelings, but he didn't do anything wrong. He didn't say anything to kawamura, who was straight, probably because he thought he had no chance, and the thing with glasses sempai might have been convenient for both of them. (This was high school, so they were all teenagers back then).
This is all just my defense for this manga. No one has to feel the same, but this is why I live the story so much.

max2payne0 October 21, 2019 12:01 pm

A nice, consenting, healthy relationship. Both of them are cute, especially Mao, and the uke is the one to ask for sex instead of being pushed to being the bottom. I like these kinds of stories.

max2payne0 October 17, 2019 8:19 pm

Supposedly he's 31, but I think that's a little high if they've only known each other a year and a half. In the author's notes at the end of the last season, he was 28 with fanboy at 23 in his senior year of college. Even if his birthday already passed it would still be 30.

    Jeulgeoum101 November 3, 2019 12:42 am

    Maybe shes going with the korean age where when the new year starts you became 1year older just something like this ik its confusing

    Trixie November 5, 2019 8:28 pm

    He's 28. Where did you get 31 from? The character he was playing?

    Trixie November 5, 2019 8:31 pm
    He's 28. Where did you get 31 from? The character he was playing? Trixie

    Sorry, my bad, got something mixed up. I'm with the korean age theory. Though yeah, it is a bit weird

    max2payne0 November 13, 2019 6:09 pm

    I think it was just a mistake, since in the author notes he was 28, then a year and a half later, and when his age is next mentioned it's 31 (not sure which chapter but its season 2), and fanboy is 25 I think. He would be at most 30.

max2payne0 October 17, 2019 7:22 pm

This whole thing was a pretty frustrating read, but it's an old one so maybe that's why. The story is also pretty cliche and not in a good way. My fav character was hands down Issei. Even though the best friend being secretly in love with the MC has been done before, and I usually hate it because it means the MC will lose a friend or I'll feel sorry for the friend that never had a chance. In this story, though, I kept wondering WHY Mizuho and Issei weren't really an item. His whole relationship with Enji was so awkward and I just skimmed through most of it. At least it's short.

max2payne0 October 17, 2019 1:31 pm

I just got back into this manhwa a couple days ago. I was so excited that it had updated that I read the second season chapters even though I'd forgotten most of the story. I'm done with that and I'm reading it all from the beginning again. Whoever posted this, thank you so much! And I hope we get a bunch of posts this month, too.

max2payne0 October 17, 2019 12:57 pm

So this was cute, but I think it could have done with a bit more development because everything moved way too fast. The art is pretty, too, so I think it's such a shame. I was just confused through most of it, then there was a two year time skip until they met again, and another eight month time skip and we get to see smut.
Also, am I the only one that didn't appreciate that best friend? I'm an introvert myself so I know how having an understanding, caring friend would really help Itsuki, but I don't like how the confrontation with Yuno went. He had no idea what was going on and he approached a stranger to take him to task without understanding the situation. Then, he kept quiet about it until the two year time skip. Whether or not Itsuki would have done anything or if it would have changed his determination, he shouldn't have interfered if he wasn't going to come clean about it to his friend.

    max2payne0 October 17, 2019 2:07 pm

    Just to clarify, for anyone who's read Star x Fanboy manhwa, Dong-Ryo was the best. Even though Fanboy wasn't an introvert, I still love how Dong-Ryo was there for his friend and supported him without getting too involved in his business, since he wasn't completely sure what was going on. He knew not to interfere. Takuma not only interfered, but I don't think he handled it well, either. Just as well since he's probably a 19 year old kid like his friend, but understanding doesn't make me like him.

max2payne0 October 15, 2019 12:42 pm

I actually really liked this one, but at some point, my attention shifted to the second pairing, and then it just ends. Because there's no closure for them I can't help thinking about them more than the main couple now.

max2payne0 October 13, 2019 7:43 pm

I really wish I could like this story since it seems it grows sweet later on, but for right now, I am uncomfortable.

Daewon is homophobic, and there's nothing right about that. But that doesn't mean that his opinions and feelings shouldn't be respected, especially since this is a bl manhwa and we all know he's going to end up with a guy, the fun part is the character development. He might be a homophobic bastard but he's a person, too. I hated how that chibi hyung is trying to hold him to a contract he signed while drunk, that he didn't even remember signing because he was that drunk. They shouldn't have let him sign it while drunk, it shouldn't even be valid. Do you know who gets people to sign things while they're under the influence? Scammers. This poor kid got scammed. It is not okay to make someone do something they don't want to do, that they are completely uncomfortable with, even if it furthers the plot. Far from disliking his attitude, I feel sorry for him.

Then, the other MC. At the moment, I don't even like the bi guy, and I'm onyl up to ch 3 because he's making the other guy uncomfortable and that is not romantic. I get that it changes later, but there's apparently some sexual harrassment going on there, with the bi guy making advances and Daewon not liking it, saying no, but still the other guy doesn't stop. Now this is a pretty common trope in yaoi, but maybe because I've seen some great stuff recently where it's all consenting and even when it's a guy who starts off as straight ending up with another man, there's consent all over the place, and apologies if boundaries are crossed. So I really hate to go back to the old stuff where you just skim over the rapey stuff for the story.

The story is fine, except I wouldn't mind some parts getting switched around: the uke shows he's homophobic, the thing with his house happens, he has no other choice, so he sucks it up. the bi guy offers to house him for a while with the rule that he won't try to hit on him or make him uncomfortable, the chibi hyung gives him the bl job and he signs the damn contract sober because it's work and he was in desperate need of money. You can just as easily develop a relationship from this without it feeling forced. even if he had no other choice, it's still his choice to make, especially since in the manhwa, the reason he couldn't move back in with his parents was because he'd already signed the contract for the bl VA (while drunk.)

I'll probably continue with this if I can't find something else to read, but for now, I just got off a really sweet somewhat long bl series that I wouldn't mind seeing more of. It was both cute and sexy, and I really want to find something where there is no jerky behavior.

    peace_yow October 28, 2019 12:36 am

    Could you link some of those with consent all over the place?
    (=・ω・=)

    max2payne0 October 28, 2019 4:39 pm

    Where to even start? there's so many, but these are some of my favorites
    webtoons
    shounen ai: Dasadanan, star x fanboy, unriped expression, cherry blossoms after winter, at the end of the road (slightly dark), voice of love, my darling signed in
    yaoi: alice in adultland, sign, following namsoo to the bathroom, ice man (short)

    manga
    shounen ai: sasaki to miyano, slow starter, seven days and i can hear the sunspot (both with bl movie)
    yaoi: Honto yajuu (pretty much everything by yamamoto kotetsuko), Arashi no ato, Elektel Delusion, Usagi otoko tora otoko, blue sky complex, fushidara na hanatsumi otoko, sofure buka!, koicha no osahou, yume wo miru hima mo nai, sono koi ni wa wake ga aru

    mangaka
    yamamoto kotetsuko
    morimoto shuu (mostly shounen ai, but pretty art)
    naono bohra
    ichikawa kei

    You might have read some of them, but these are some of my favorites, some that I read ages ago and still remember just off the top of my head. I have plenty of folders with the different mangas and manhwas I've read but it would take way too long to go through them all. All relationships are consenting, in some it's the uke that makes the first move, which is pretty rare, the shounen ai ones have cute relationships. From what I remember of them there was no forcefulness from anyone, total consent in the relationships where the two actually talk, very healthy relationships. It has been a while so something might have slipped through (I know for sure at the end of the road has a consenting relationship where the guys fall for each other, but one of the guys does start off forceful) but I loved these.

    max2payne0 October 28, 2019 6:57 pm

    Forgot to add these. They're also very sweet, i think all three are yaoi: koi to no dogfight, eyes on me, Taberarechaukei danshi.

    peace_yow October 28, 2019 11:07 pm

    Thank yoouuuu (≧∀≦) I do know some of these, and they're great :D can't wait to read the ones I don't know OwO thanks again, kind stranger ^w^ *gives cookie* have a good day~

    max2payne0 November 1, 2019 11:52 am

    So, just a heads up. Taberarechaukei Danshi has two stories, the second one is from ch4-6, and it's another terrible story with no consent and blackmail. If you do read that one, remember to only read the first three chaps. I was so happy to see it updated but the second story is trash.

    peace_yow November 1, 2019 12:02 pm
    So, just a heads up. Taberarechaukei Danshi has two stories, the second one is from ch4-6, and it's another terrible story with no consent and blackmail. If you do read that one, remember to only read the first... max2payne0

    Ok, thanks :)

    KissMeDarkly January 7, 2020 3:56 am

    Yes, these were my thoughts exactly. He may be a homophobe, but it was horrible the way his opinions, and rights, were violated and outright ignored. I'd quit working for a boss that waits until I'm drunk to get me to sign something I so obviously did not want to do, and sue his ass. Pretty sure, even in Korea, it's still illegal.

max2payne0 October 8, 2019 7:40 pm

Even if the brother gets help later on, I think it'll be a lot healthier if the girl stops living with him and he just visits her if he wants to. I don't care if he's depressed about everything happening, taking it out on an innocent child is unforgivable, but this is fiction and there's the tragedy tag, so who knows what will happen...

    King Of Strangeness December 10, 2019 11:13 pm

    While I understand where you come from and I mostly agree with you but I won't 100% blame the brother either I mean his family tried to steal his inheritance etc plus he has a mental illness so while I agree that he should not have hit his sister I don't fully blame him alone for it

    Nanahoo December 11, 2019 12:42 am
    While I understand where you come from and I mostly agree with you but I won't 100% blame the brother either I mean his family tried to steal his inheritance etc plus he has a mental illness so while I agree th... King Of Strangeness

    But a mental illness doesn't make you an assholeand shouldn't be an excuse for shitty behaviour. He definitly got some issues he needs to work on, some that he can't help, I get that. But his abuse is defenitly not caused by his depression or can be excused by it. So yeah I think he is 100% to blame.

    King Of Strangeness December 11, 2019 10:03 am
    But a mental illness doesn't make you an assholeand shouldn't be an excuse for shitty behaviour. He definitly got some issues he needs to work on, some that he can't help, I get that. But his abuse is defenitly... Nanahoo

    That's where I disagree, yes he's got issues and I think his abuse is a part of that, I mean you saw it in the rental onii san guy he was an asshole as a kid because of what happened to his parents. I mean of course it's still his problem and he should, I don't remember the right word sorry, and visit a psychyotrist and get proper help and actually look through his actions and apologize etc, I mean it's not only depression but also probably trauma of all his family members trying to get his money instead of actually helping him and his family which probably made him on edge all the time and probably also lost most of the trust he had in others, of course it doesn't completely make him free of blame, If I was there I whould probably punch him and drag him to a psychyatrist for help, but I also think his family has a cause in him to end up like that so I whould definitely blame them a bunch too

    King Of Strangeness December 11, 2019 10:04 am
    That's where I disagree, yes he's got issues and I think his abuse is a part of that, I mean you saw it in the rental onii san guy he was an asshole as a kid because of what happened to his parents. I mean of c... King Of Strangeness

    By family i dont mean his sister but his uncles etc

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