when i’m in a self sabotaging my relationship challenge and my opponent in yunoh:
guys this was always going to be rape. uno was drugged. lorenzo having sex with him while he was sober and uno was drugged was always going to be rape and non consensual. this is why i can’t take the ‘i’m so disappointed with the rape :(‘ crowd seriously, because what you guys don’t even know what rape is
the issue people who cant differentiate between morally wrong fictional actions done to fictional characters and reality is that people start labeling actual noncon scenes as not rape to justify liking them, and *that’s* potentially a dangerous rabbit hole. but whatever.
gotta ignore these people they always complaining about the same thing. they should just change the genres they read atp lol
The fact that Uno was drugged is not really what made it non-con, because we all know for a fact that Uno has been clear-headed so far and initiated this situation knowing fully well what and who he was doing. The only thing wrong with Uno was extreme horniness. Enzo too was onboard with the whole situation.
It only became rape when Uno was forced to bottom by Enzo.
Personally, I am not mad about it because it makes sense within the existing plot of the story.
was lorenzo biting off that guy’s tongue not enough warning for y’all or what
i think it’s totally valid to feel uncomfortable with what happens in chapter 20, but some of you are doing way too much for something that was foreshadowed a long time in advance. this isn’t some disney show where bad characters aren’t really ‘bad’ - lorenzo has clearly been a morally deficient character from the beginning
EXACTLY. SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!
Some people legit argued with me saying there will be no rape, there is no rape, even if he's drugged that's not rape cuz he's conscious and that author said there will be no rape.
calling it early that there’s more to this guy than meets the eye and that he’s after the mom for revenge or some shit
also it’s only chapter 6 and im having second male lead syndrome damn it lmfao
“you’re not that guy pal”
this title:
This comment made me want to read this
okay here is a vague summary of the plot that is probably not 100% correct (via the novel which i read on ridi books, i don’t know of any english translation as i read the original in korean so dont ask me for anything):
[spoilers, duh!]
i’m think the top is actually a psychopath or has trauma that makes it hard for him to feel emotions like a normal person (fellow into the thrill fans, sound familiar?). he’s also rich and super hot and all that jazz. he meets the bottom at some student get together and is initially attracted to him because of his scent. the bottom likes him too, and they have a one night stand, the top decides he likes having sex with him (it’s the typical “i normally fuck girls but this dude made me realize i could do it with men too” and they become “lovers”. the top is sometimes affectionate and jealous and possessive over him, but the top doesn’t really “love” the bottom (more like he doesn’t know how to), which the bottom slowly realizes over time. he feels like the top is only using him for sex (i remember in one scene the bottom dresses up for the top and then they fuck on the floor and the bottom passes out and when he wakes up he realizes the top just left him there, dirty clothes and all) and discovers that the top is an asshole. so he breaks up with him, but the top doesn’t accept that so they go back and forth. in the midst of it all, there’s this TA who has an interest in the bottom, who the top is very jealous of and constantly makes issues for. also, i don’t remember where exactly this fits in but there’s a subplot where the top’s family chooses a finance for the top and the top goes along with it while he’s with the bottom and doesn’t tell him about it. if i’m recalling this correctly, i think the sequence of events is the bottom breaks up with the top > they get back together > because of the finance incident the bottom breaks up with the top again (but seriously this time) > the top has some sort of come to jesus moment and starts his (weak ass) chasing arc, where there’s this one scene where he goers drunk and passes out on a public bench or something (his homeless era) > they get together and the novel ends
Damn wooojin from into the thrill is far better than him for his uke actually, what's with these semes having ni emoticons treating someone like trash
rereading the chapters with aki and power and. oh yeah. this is a different type of hurt.
when i’m in a yapping competition and my opponent is mokyeon
flawless victory for moyeon
yunoh: hyung can you quit smoking
*haewon quits smoking*
yunoh: why the FUCK would you quit smoking. hope you get lung cancer and die actually
before anyone jumps my ass yeah i get that yunoh has ~reasons~ but just because someone has a reason for why they act a certain way doesn’t negate the actual effects of that action. like if i cheated on my girl, telling my girl i have mommy issues doesn’t change the fact that i cheated on her and hurt her feelings.
Uhm i think the difference here is ~correlation~. Yuh oh doesnt understand why haewon is so adamant abt this relationship when its not even smth he ( the he in question is Haewon) wants. You telling your "gf" you "cheated" on her doesnt justify the action or even explain it for that matter, is simply bc of the correlation between the two. Meanwhile Yuh oh doesnt feel seen or heard in this "relationship" because of the simple fact the relationship is fabricated and not actually real. The only reason Haewon is dating Yuh-oh is bc Yuh-oh wanted to move out so he didnt have to confront his own feelings. Yuh-oh is extremely immature yes, but he knows his relationship isnt real and only exists because haewon isnt bored of him yet. Yuh-oh is completely dependent on haewon emotionally and financially. Yuh-oh does indeed suck at communication and this chapter was a hard read especially since hes shouldering alot of the burden and refuses to ask for help bc he doesnt wanna look like a "child" anymore
i don’t get yunoh sympathizers because like. all of his issues are self inflicted. he’s not as “trapped” as y’all are making him out to be, he actually does has options (admittedly not great ones but we literally have an entire chapter where we see how the other kids are the orphanage are managing on their own even without a support system like haewon), yunoh is a grown ass fucking adult bruh, he ain’t a kid. he can do whatever he wants, and he’s feeling so shitty about their relationship because he feels haewon is dating him for other reasons then he is more than capable of saying that to him.
haewon isn’t perfect either but at least he’s trying to do what he thinks is best and being proactive about it, instead of stewing in his own emotions and then lashing out at everyone.
everyone who relates to yunoh…. maybe your situation ship is where it is for a reason idk
exactly you don't get yun-oh and his what, sympathizersー because you don't relate to him/them which is good for you ig.
I relate to Yun-oh cuz it’s hard to tell what you feel especially after bottling up your emotions and feelings for this long ( + lowkey having no social skills ). I do think they both have to communicate better tho. But Haewon has literally no emotional intelligence, he may be trying his "best" but Yun-oh ain’t dumb and sees that Haewon only agreed to date him cuz he was desperate, he doesn’t reciprocate the same feelings. He keeps asking himself "I’m doing everything he wants, why is he angry ?" And doesn’t think further than this.
Yes, Yun-oh should absolutely communicate but Haewon "doing his best" is just hurting Yun-oh even more, it doesn’t feel sincere, he doesn’t love him back like how Yun-oh would want him to. He only agreed to date because he has abandonment issues or whatever, it felt like he only accepted it because he didn’t want Yun-oh to "throw a tantrum" again