Vae's Topics (38)

omg really???? I came here just to see if anyone mentioned

oh wait the creator's note or special ep? everyone's saying the former

I did this topic esp for youヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Y'know I can only base on a dictionary, "an epilogue" or "next promise".

Edit: ok, I've searched her account and 후기 she used in reference to that Q&A which was published after the special episode - which is 특별편 - *me falling into a pit* ╥﹏╥

nawww I had the tiniest bit of hope but thats it for us ig



either way thanks for making the topic <3 you're too sweet

So we got another ensuring there will be happy ending ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
And this artist really... She wanted DETAILS for realism so she started to look at photos from endoscopy XDDD That's devotion!!! Hats off! However her PD told her it looks like a documentary on the human body - I'm imagining this situationXD
It was a nice panel of Jaeshin that got deleted tho :< More panels like this, and less like from the endoscopy (but keep some of them XD)

And you know? I've changed my mind and now I think we won't see their happy living in the underworld.
Ananas wrote she hurt her arm (somewhere in the middle of the series?) but it's getting better - doctor says it's fine now. However she wrote a note by hand also - my ocr doesn't read it and I'm too lazy to rewrite it - do you have any idea, someone commented on it, what's this about?

P.S. It's worth it to peek at the KR site and receive all the gifts they've sent you. I was able to add 2 chapters to my collection :D (dunno if it's for good, but I have one from previous bonuses and it's still there :33333)

"finally,

I read each and every letter you sent me with gratitude and treasure them:)

You don't know how much strength the words you wrote in your letter gave me ;; I thought you did a really good job drawing.

♡♡

When I see readers who send me warm words through handwritten letters and on SNS and enjoy my work, I think about whether there is something more I can do for them, and I promise to work even harder every time.

I hope that this song(*night song*) will bring a little joy to the readers' day.

♡♡

Then see you in part 4~!!

thank you" - thats what she wrote.

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never doubted that we wouldn't be getting a happy end even once but yeah being left at the cliff hanger for possible the rest of the year hurts </3

also the fact that there were no specials. but i kind of saw it coming cause atp we dont really have any background info left to be told about them right. or more like jaeshin's past since previously they were focused on him.

btw I found this on someone's post on X - "I looked up the meaning of the aster flower... 'unrequited love', 'passion', 'independence', 'reunion', 'resignation', 'sad memories', 'memories are only yours', 'waiting for the day we meet again', 'unfulfilled love', 'death', etc. are the flower meanings used in foreign countries, while in Korea, it mainly means 'sad memories', 'death', 'reincarnation', 'lost memories', etc., from positive to negative meanings."
- death i knew , the others not so much . reincarnation being mentioned kind of makes me think we may go down that route. and well yeah them living in the underworld, idk if we think the current nok actually gets well , still he'll have responsibilities as the future king. if we think of him getting reincarnated, then that kind of contradicts with the major plot points of humans and their way of life according to the story. and if we think of ghost nok ... well jaeshin's still gonna need those yin energy so there's that.

anyways , i also remember you mentioning that reincarnation is common in the Chinese works than korean(i apologise i dont rememberif i replied then or not). but these days its manhwas have been using that arcs as well. haven't read them myself but one of BWAT's work (ig it was taming the tiger if im not wrong) , dawn of the dragon , dreaming of the dokkaebi are a few ive come across where atleast one of them do. not common , yes but still

Thank you sunshine :)

Spider lily became kinda Jaeshin's trade mark. I once found a great site with many symbols from TGN explained, but I've lost it ;_; and couldn't find it again. So thanks for sharing this all the more.

Ok, maybe while waiting for s4 I'll read more Korean (taming the tiger wasn't my cup and I've dropped it pretty quickly), but it's harder to find decent art. (or even if it's kinda passable, the style is turning me off)
In Chinese fantasy dramas and novels it's very common tho. But I shoudn't be surprised. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Loose thought: if seasons in TGN kind of matched with seasons in Korea, we'll have to wait till the next spring for s4...

wait next spring means april - June 2026 :")))
that's torture. but also kinda satisfies the time frame for hiatus (hasn't it been almost 8 to 10 months for previous seasons??)

I'm actually trying to act like i won't be seeing them atleast until the new years so that they come back sooner (reverse psychology ftw)

and as for art well after finding crj's works well ive yet to encounter some thing that comes even i little close to its brilliance. so atp I just read other works for the sake of reading and the stories. they have good art yes but nothing will ever be as majestic as this one.

The historical aspect seems very dear to the author and artist so I would guess both would rather maintain the current plot environment? While Nok is stuck in the afterworld waiting for his reincarnation (if ever he's truly dead), there's a chance Jaeshin will look for ways to still save him. I was thinking Jaeshin giving up on his immortality would be the solution. Maybe there's some secret rule about that. But then how would Nok reappear in the mortal world all fresh after being buried? xD It doesn't really makes sense on this part.

Can't believe we'll have to wait for almost a year before next season. We gotta stay strong dear friends :,)

Dreaming of the dokkaebi is something else!! I highly recommend it, It should be more popular (〜￣△￣)〜

*trying to reading but haven't gotten hooked into it yet*
I can recommend Blue Sky Complex - so normal XD

oh a manga?? I always appreciate a good manga recommendation T_T
(honestly I feel like its more easier to find a manga where the leads are green flags than a mangwa. so i turn to them from time to time.)

also may I suggest Unblossomed - its a bit angst in wouldn't lie but a good story none the less

I'll add it to my list, I love manga.

Yes! I'm more into manga in general ;) Webtoons are too... cartoonish? However I admit there're some good ones.
I've forgotten to add BSC art style deteriorated with times unfortunately.
The finished one I can recommend is Given. I like Gusari's art style very much. However the anime has really stolen my heart, since the plot is around music.

Another one recently read by me, it's not finished though and chapters are rather short, so the story feels a little snatchy... BUT I still like itXD "The guy she was interested in wasn't a guy at all" - that's the title, for a change of mood ;)

8 chapters left for me in Unblossomed, and ooh it's good. Thanks for suggesting<3 At first it was a little slow and the art is... not much my style, passable let's say. Even "nice" at times ;) Smth has kept me into the plot. But it's also still ongoing (︶︿︶)

ahhhhhh Given is one of my MOST fav thing out there and I can't emphasize it enough but I can go on and on about it. Both the manga and anime are so precious to me. (now i know the anime missed out or sometimes even glossed over certain emotional scenes in animating it BUT Given's soundtrack makes it a whole new experience all together. – ive become a fan of Centimillimental, the people behind the tracks)

I've been meaning to read TGSWII but I'm just a bad binge reader and it has so many chapters if i recall T_T
CRJ has really raised your standards for art XP , but valid cause nothing will come near it. I wonder if you'd like the art for "Clandestine Affair" . its a manhua but ive yet to read it. I can suggest you two more stories tho idk if the art will be of your taste or not.
We have , "Reunion" and "Bongchon Bride", the latter one is a bit more heavy plotwise tho, so a disclaimer for that. (the ml is pretty sweet and green flag however) :(
Reunion is pretty slow burn. the art maybe a but passable or not for you but if you manage to stick through, i hope it'd be a good experience to real (〃´ω`〃) ( its distributed on multiple official platforms but the one on lz is still ongoing but I'm sure you can find the completed one)
And as for Unblossomed, it ends with around 45 chapters so you probably won't have to wait so long :P

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its been hours but i still need time to process holdup ill be back soon. like i dont even know what to theorize anymore. and to think all of us saw this coming from miles away

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I understand. A moment ago (so about 2h after reading) I thought: I can't believe the season's ended. As well as what has happened, happened.

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youre so right . cause i feel so empty inside already. even tho we still have the eng translations for a few weeks. hes really gone isnt he? at this point i want to leave it all to the authors. I really dont have the capacity to think of the what ifs or what could after that cliffhanger. have no idea how ill come with for months. atleast we have 30-35 more chapters to go

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if you really really ask me , im still of the opinion that at the very core of it , the story was always about jae coming to terms with how human hearts as well as life works.
so idk if its gonna be him trying to convince the leaders of underworld for nok's life or something. and even if nok has no objection with living in the underworld , did we ever get to figure out about why jaeshin's mother leave? wasn't it because of the natural order of things?

Damn! I knew it wasn't a good idea to postpone my reading until bed time :,((( We all saw it coming indeed but the panels of Nok's beautiful face bleeding and slowly dying will haunt me for few days still. I am a big drama petty gal and I always enjoy seeing the tough lover breaking out by pain an sorrow. I am grateful the author gave us a panel of Jaeshin crying. Tbh I couldn't imagine a more beautifully tragic and consistent end of a season! The old man getting the best revenge possible, Nok in the verge of dying (will Jaeshin be able to save him form death next season??) and of course, Jaeshin in distress facing the ultimate consequences of his selfish behavior. I cannot wait for next season! We may have some great chapters of Nok & Jaeshin hanging out in the afterworld! I hope Nok will somehow return to his mortal world and become a king. I would prefer such a plot over a reincarnation one. Never been disappointed by the author so far so I'm gonna trust the process either way :)))

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I'll marinate the last chapters in English, and then read them - maybe there'll be a discount as on Korean ones ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Yeah, Nok looks really dead - I'm not sure if Jaeshin can do anything at this point: like drag him somewhere to exchange some of his life for Nok's. Living in the underworld would be nice though. I just can't figure out what would they be doing there (aside from the obviousness;)). I'd love to have 30+ more episodes, but as I wrote a week ago or smth their last part together could be Jaeshin learning to let go his loved one for their good. And at the same time "natural order" will be kept.
Nok had pretty awful life, being haunted by ghosts for the most of it, as well being raped by them, lost his mother, blaming himself for it for years, his only friend turned his back, almost died by assassination and wicked ghost, and finally got killed by a stranger. He deserves to reincarnate and lead a happy life for once ;_; or break from the cruel living cycle and become a deity!
And most of it was caused by Jaeshin... The old guy with a third eye really was right.

I agree, one of the main points is Jaeshin coming to terms with his human side as well as with humans in general. (dunno what now, when a human had killed 'his human' ╮(￣▽￣)╭ )
We got many satisfying small breaking points (most of them if not all were on my list "I want to see Jaeshin..."): blushing, aroused (but not from one-side mechanical intercourses), deadly, protecting, scared, panicked, crying (high-five Deedee!). So in his way to maturity only "you can leave me for your own good" lies ahead. There's even the first step to that when he realised Nok's point, and stopped thinking only from his own. The scene right after saving Nok from the tormented child ghost.

I strongly believe we should remember the earrings Nok bought for him. Although they don't possess any power as the ones Jaeshin gave him, I feel they'll be used in the story.

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I promise ill catch up to you both once I get off work but speaking of the earrings (the reason why I couldn't stop myself from replying ) i love how those were the same ones we saw on jaeshin's recent art minus the spider lily :")
how symbolic indeed

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Nice Daisy! I haven't noticed bc many Jaeshin's earrings have tassels. Btw don't you think this art was drawn some time ago?
Ooooh and it's kinda similar to the postcard and a card which were added to the printed copy of vol.1 (*happy owner here*) and I can see the same earring as in this new art C.R Jade posted. But I deem the shared one is older. What do you think?

*I just should've written the vol. cover from Korean version XD

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awww you're so lucky

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HELP WHY DID THE MESSAGE CUT I dont even remember half of what I typed T^T
wait lemme remember holdup-


1. the physical copy . yes! omg Vae im so happy for you. ive been wishing that i can buy one for myself as well. (maybe better the eng ver if it ever get licenced ) but ik getting it shipped would cost me more than the book itself so pretty much a lost cause.

2. the recent art , if i got it correctly is from Thailand book fair. and if im remembering even an ounce of it correctly , it must have been between late dec or the first quarter of 2025 cause I've come across the promos online time to time. so def not new.

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marinating the last chapters sounds good. ive been thinking of doing the same lmao. im not a big binge reader but some stories are just that good ( flashbacks to when I picked up tgn :") )

now this may not be a really popular opinion but imma second Vae on this . one of the biggest sacrificial thing you can do in my books is letting the one you love go , if thats what seems to be better for them. ( only applies to fictional setting please) . holding on to them is good and all , but if they're suffering or have done so gravely in the past , letting them go has be the biggest act of love you can commit XP ( idk if its the angst lover in me talking )
so yeah Nok does deserves a second chance for a peaceful life. (but then what about us wanting to see king nok </3 cause if do take that route, wishing he gets reincarnated as a royalty again would be too much of a coincidence. or maybe he had just accumulated that much good karma lmao )

its been hardly a day , idk how we're supposed to wait months until they even announce the cb dates.
also one more thing , did jaeshin extend the old Man's life or straight up made him immortal. cause idk what would come of him. if its just an extention by a certain number of years, maybe his actions could result in his own downfall ( i mean who would sit by watching their crown prince / future king murdered ) thats straight up an execution

Daisy, from what I remember, Jaeshin only extended the old man's life by few years. He basically gave him the remaining living years of his son to him. How cruel xD

And I agree with both of you, the red earrings will have a symbolic impact next season for sure. That's basically the only remaining thing from Nok to Jaeshin. If I follow the sad theory (Nok dying), I suppose we would see Jaeshin holding into those earrings for the whole time they will be apart :,(( In that case, I would guess just like for Jaeshin's mother, Nok won't remain too long in the afterworld and he would reincarnate straight away. Isn't what's supposed to happen to good karma people?

We may have Jaeshin longing for Nok until they reunite again in a new mortal world and the red earrings could be the reason Nok gets attracted to Jaeshin or something in those lines, idk xD If Nok doesn't die but is badly injured, I would guess Jaeshin will do the impossible to save him but in both scenarios, I still struggle to guess what or who would be the main villain next season?! Someone from the afterworld who hates Jaeshin? A new crazy person from the mortal world?!? One thing is certain, the plot will be out of our comfort zone. So many things will be different!

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Did you paste any emoji? It happened to me a few times. I wanted to by funny, pasted an emoji and from that point aaaaaall my comment vanished XD Other than that, maybe unstable internet connection?

Yep I'm so happy to have it (that's why I'm boastingXD) but it's true, I had to pay 3x book value just for the shipping X_X And you know what? The colours are darker and on the panel when Yeom tried to swallow Geumdong on their first encounter, it's so dark inside her mouth the ghosts are barely visible. That's rather disappointing.
On a Chinese but for foreign buyers site (I bet you know it;)) it's price is 2x of what I've paid with everything O____O And the author's most probably won't get anything from it...

2. I was guessing it's even older;) Like one of C.R Jade drew for fun or when she was sketching Jaeshin. Later when she was preparing the book she took the idea and drew bigger art for a cover and postcard. But I'll never know :D

I'm def binge reader/watcher etc. :D I've started reading TGN just after s1 had ended, and it was an intense night ;) Actually I hate having to wait cause my interest dicreases ( though not with this title) as well as anticipation - 'cause it's just not possible to keep oneself on such high level for a long time. I remember how exhausted I was waiting for 7-8h for scans of the last chapter of s2 - if there was an available payment method I would've bought it 10 times already XD

I really doubt we'll see the king Nok :( be it in the human world or in the underworld.
However if Nok would go through reincarnation what options would Jaeshin have? Coming back to fucking humans for yin energy? Naah. Starving? Smth like divide and become a human? Maybe after rereading more ideas will come :)
Be sure Daisy to, if you learn any info of s4, share it!

Jaeshin didn't extent the old man's life. He switched his date of death with his son's. Which caused shortening the son's life and expanding the old man's. Surely he won't live long now.

Oh, wait, won't we get a special episode next week???

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Aww, longing Jaeshin - I can't wait to see it X3 But if it would be "just" hurt and still living - wouldn't it be too cruel from the author's side? X_X I understand plot twists etc. but vanishing "haa", dropping hand in a very dramatic way. And what? In the next chapter we see him living? Oo
Hm the main struggle, good question. "How to stay together" could only be a part of it. A new villain? No idea at the moment. Just "world", as the world is our biggest enemy XD

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oww we'll definitely have to sit and wait to know what kinda villain we're getting next season. ( or do you guys think , rather than having one , it'll just be a culmination of every plot points that remains now. like jaeshin and nok's past meeting and such )

ive had my fair share of binge reading.. I think i remember coming across TGN during s2 , started it and got overwhelmed because you know and I could never continue. it was only after s3 was announced, that i knew i had to lock in and which i did lmao !! cookie points cause s2 finale was one of the best ones ive ever read. still go there from time to time. however I really do enjoy the serialization cause it gives me time to enjoy those theories and even discuss with my friends lmao..


we should get a special right!? looking forward to what more shockers (in a good way) the creators would give us. and yes you both , let's try to look out for whatever news of s4 we get in the coming months T^T honestly asking tho, is there hope for them to return by year end atleast!?

PS : i successfully roped in one of my friends to read night song and she's already so smitten by the art . she's like a really crazy binge reader but since she's got her exams around month end , so she promised me she'll catch up soon after

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Oh yes! This special title. From time to time I think "I want to see that chapter/moment again", and 62 is def one of them <3<3<3<3<3 beautiful.
Haha, so true, one chapter per week gives us time to bat it around <3

I've a very small hope in the special chapter we'll get proof if Nok's dead or not. And what could happen in the s4.

Daisy I envy you! I tried to rope my friend in too. She looked, acknowledged the art, but said it's not for her :( Nonetheless I'm not losing hope - and her pics from time to time ;) Just watching myself not to send too many XD As someone on mangago wrote: an indication of a true friendship is how many yaoi pics you can send them :D

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Omg we really are witnessing the calm before the storm right!? (T＿T)

the pond scene was definitely my first thought as well. really great parallels o draw !! we've really come so far as to see our Nok become a king.

and you're so right for the evil queen part lmao. ykw ive noticed is, out of the stories ive read (bl ones) , there are only a handful of them which use female characters to their full potential. otherwise some dont even have females in them lmao. I'm happy that the females in this story were so remarkable .


I also had a doubt. yk after the panels

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Oops sorry it got cut T T

anyways as i was saying after the panels in which the queen's death is Announced and nok says he'll have to pay his majesty a visit . We have some narrative boxes saying (if the translations are correct on my end) --
"Later, Prince Ju Seong called his biological mother, Queen Han,

'she was a person who neither knew how to give nor receive love.'

Still, he reminisced for a long time about the one person who kept him from losing his way. (most prob nok right???)
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the tone of the message here, why does it sound like it's being narrated about in the far future? like is it just a general narrative (like old historical events kind of) thing? or something else

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I'd say the case is it's hard to find a good plot - and a good plot contains well written characters and their side stories. Since it's not that easy, but a loooooot of ppl think "I wanna be an author!" and also many of them are published, this is how it ends.
Same with tv series, there're the kind where almost every scene is focused on interaction between the leads, but there's not much story in it. Other characters? There are, but it would be the same if there weren't XD Not my cup ;)
However when it comes to BL I can understand lack of women. At some point. (Esp when sometimes men look girly enough, ekhm...)

Yeah the narrative boxes with a horrible font are like a history written in the annals. It felt strange tho when I imagine young Juseong (he's still really a child) saying "...didn't know how to give or receive love".
Lemme play with "my version" (๑❛ᴗ❛๑):
Later, Prince Juseong criticised that his biological mother, the deposed Queen Han "was a person who neither knew how to give nor receive love." However, for a long time he reminisced the one person who kept him from losing himself.

I'm not very convinced those summarisations are from far future - when Juseong is the king, but we can't exclude it.

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I've forgotten: finally Nok was laughing heartily :3 We had to wait 96 chapters for such occurrence, but we got it <3 I'm so happy for him.
Sadly the next chapter will be rather sad: but the question is: the attack will be directed at Jaeshin (with Nok protecting him; maybe dying in the process or be seriously wounded) or at Nok?? At first I've written as if it'll be Nok, but actually I expect the old guy to go straight at Jaeshin.

The loop is looping! The author is wrapping up the end so perfectly it's almost scary. Since the queen's decline, I open every new chapter with a bigger anxiety. We now know the old man story is the one that's gonna take Nok down. I believe he'll aim at Nok and not Jaeshin. He surely noticed (since he's been spying on them before) that Nok is now Jaeshin's biggest treasure, just like his beloved son was to him. There's no better revenge to hurt Jaeshin and let him live with the same sorrow as him than to take his lover from him. The biggest question is what are the author's plans for this project: a new season or not. If the end of this BL is just few chapters away than I would say Nok will probably survive and they will have a happy ending in one way or another. If there's a whole new season then I would expect a tragic cliffhanger for this season (and maybe a reincarnation for next season??). Anyone has any information about the author's plan?

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if im being really honest, the reincarnation troupe is getting really common in these kind of stories , so I kind of hoped we would get somewhat of a different conclusion, since night song itself had a unique concept. that being said , i also did not want open endings (never had a thing for them if im being honest) . especially knowing how nok is a mortal and jaeshin can live really long (he isnt immortal tho right??) .

but my unimaginative brain actually could not think of anything beyond reincarnation lmao. but ik the creators are gonna write it beautifully. also had this thought in my mind , and surprisingly even found someone mention it (here on or X earlier) that , they could even show us nok and jae meeting across different life time, each time nok is reincarnated. (either way every ending will be bittersweet for me cause there'll be nothing to look forward to the next week :") )

and sadly the creators have not mentioned anything as of yet. everyweek when ever crj posts an update, i rush to find if anything is mentioned about the season/series end

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I think the reincarnation tropes are a Chinese thing... Have you come across them in Korean stories that often?
Nethertheless I'm quite sure we won't get reincarnation and different times ride - C.R Jade loves traditional clothes ;) Also it would be too tiring to win Nok's heart every single time...
If Nok dies really soon I'm guessing they could move to the underworld. Even Nok's mother could stayed there and have Jaeshin, right? And a few years after. Same for Nok, for example bc he saved Yeomra's son? Or that long time ago the messengers brought him to the underworld by mistake? (but I wouldn't expect such sympathy from them...) And then, when they are ready to part, Nok will go through reincarnation and forget everything.
The important part here is Jaeshin will let him go. Or they'll just stay together as a ghost an a half-ghost ;)) But the acceptance would be a mature thread I would expect from these artists. They would get their time together and be happy with each other, but Nok might miss living too (dunno why...) so at some point Jaeshin would let him go for Nok's own good.

The old guy could've found a method to hurt Jaeshin - as a half-human he is. If he's convinced Jaeshin's cruel and heartless, he wouldn't try to attack his companion. Them having fun in Haenggung's (that was the name?XD) streets looked like Nok's Jaeshin's biggest treasure for a bystander? I'm not sure. Only we know the truth. ;]

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You're killing me here, guys with your theories! So many options to consider! I don't want reincarnation, I don't want an open ending Σ(っ°Д °;)っ I just want them to be together forever and happy ლ(´ڡ`ლ) I know I'm being unreasonable and unrealistic, but I don't care! I can't handle sad or bittersweet endings. I need another season and please, not a tragic cliffhanger! those are brutal (￣∇￣")

Whatever the ending, I'm pretty hoptimistic. I feel like the author will give us a happy one :)) It's really hard for me to imagine a sad ending for this story. It just doesn't seem to align with the overall vibe of this BL. I hope I'm not wrong xD

I hope so too.

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yeah I hope instead of only marking the topic as spoiler they'd have given the feature to mask whatever we write.


nonetheless another beautifully written chapter (i def did not spend the last hour and half frantically trying to refresh the raws site)
my mind's leaning towards thinking chaehui liked nok's mother cause she was kind towards her but then when she got punished it kinda broke that image of her??

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Works :D Maybe 4 are enough even. I crack my mind why a topic with spoiler alert gets the alert deleted after a new update. Once a spoiler -> always a spoiler.

Niiiice Daisy! In the Chaehui's world if you're nice to me I like you, but any wrongdoing from your side will make us archenemies. She's simple. That's why I get more her than Nok^^"
Nevertheless I'm enjoying we see more of him, his character. He's clearly hurt - and Jaeshin really didn't say anything more than what he said already? Just that he regarded him as a fine sword or jewellery, than didn't understand his own feelings, as to why he stared to care what Nok says. And now as he got his true form back, there's only one reason form him staying next to Nok. I didn't miss anything?
/I think I've lost my thought though XD/ so again: he's clearly hurt but calmly stands up to Chaehui, then breaks into tears but hugs Jaeshin and says he loves him - oooh my heart broke ( T﹏T )
(I think Jaeshin's too :D btw do you think we'll see him crying at some point? For now we haven't guessed about their quarrel - Jaeshin won't linger in the vicinity driving ghosts away)

And I feel for you with the refreshing, it happend to me a few times too.

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wait the spoiler alerts doesn't even stay forever??? that's a new discovery to me lmao. well ig it'd still work for popular manhwas where new topics get created frequently cause who'll even bother to look up for old ones but yeah then this is not really a helpful feature at all.
I like that they did not try to give chaehui some great purpose for the way she was. some people are just that flawed in their character that you can't do anything about them. although yeah having being possessed, she did turn the worst version of herself.

The thing about Nok's character that i absolutely love is how he's not easily swayed by a third party but rather prefers forming and coming to his own conclusions. his belief and trust in jaeshin and his love for himself, all of this being evident from his flashbacks that we saw. plus he's observant ( remember how before he invites jae to come to the countryside with him , nok had this entire monologue about their relation in his mind and how even tho he was not a 100% certain about it , jaeshin's feelings never went unnoticed by him — something that jaeshin hadn't himself completely realized ; and this still remains one of my fav part of their dynamic btw ) and similarly in this chapter as well , when we see how jaeshin had been pacing frantically while waiting for nok XD
(btw all of these imo are definitely great characteristics for a ruler to have)
so yeah even tho he must have been deeply hurt that the truth didn't come from jae first , he def never doubted him either. and the look on jaeshin's eyes when he realized nok was crying cause of him :") i could hear jae's heart breaking in pieces through the pixels in my phone :P

now about will we see jae cry?- umm idk (not like i want them to be in such a situation either)
do I want to see jae cry - most prob yes XP

also what does the last 3 box means? I didn't get that part in terms of context which says --
" Weak , imperfect . So that every moment is meaningful to you,

More than anything else."

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Yes! I've always marked my every spoiler topic as a spoiler and since it gets flooded anyway with an update here, I didn't see the marker vanished. What a stupid site XD
Oh yes I agree with everything <3 That's why I've recommend you Mo dao zu shi :)) Chaehui is gay and evil.

Yes, those cute foot steps in the snow<3 Nok's a full character now, will become a wise ruler and raise Juseong as his great successor :) In the first season and a little in the second we didn't get much of him, I guess we're focused on Jaeshin more? I'm so happy the story became fuller in this aspect.

I could feel Jaeshin's heart squeezing :D

I don't mind the ordeal which will make Jaeshin cry, as long as they get their happy ending ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ I like sad endings too, but just for this story my fingers are crossed for the happy ending.
Just think how much Nok cried through 3 seasons - Jaeshin can cry at least once too :P (yes I want to see it X3)

Hmm I wasn't sure too but since you've asked I gave it more thought ;)
And I deem it's another step in Jaeshin's realising "how things are for humans".
"Weak, imperfect..." - as he has always called "humans this", "humans that", "a mere WEAK human", "can do nothing (without me)". It's quite offending, however now it evolved to just "weak, imperfect" (with a hint of care?) and because of this (literally) "every moment has a meaning to you -> looks like for Jaeshin the reason he approached Nok wasn't important at all. It only mattered he loves him now and stays with him. However he noticed how it has shaken Nok and comes to realisation: "as you're not strong you care for every detail, more than anything else."
I looked at the Chinese ver., it's the same. Vietnamese tend to write in more understanding manner (or MTL from it works better for meXD)
Offtopic: I just recalled how Kyeongjun wanted to force Nok to "see the big picture" and "act for better good."

UPDATE:
The Vietnamese rules!
"weak, imperfect... but every moment with you is more meaningful, more than anything else."
WITH YOU!! of course. We can always count on Vietnamese <3

P.S. Korean is hard XD

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Girl, you're like the queen??? That's scary?
I also wanna cry and the reason is bc I believe I'll never have a love so pure as them ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

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I mean only on this matter XD Def without the torturing arch, so don't be scared - I'm not scary ;)))
She said well: when ppl get what they wanted from you or/and get tired/boring, they'll leave you. Nok's asking to be hurt actually. However I truly admire his SPINE and GUTS.
I waited 2 weeks for some drama and got smth I haven't even thought of. It's still hard for me to imagine that sort of mindset :E
"Pure" wouldn't be the word that comes to my mind tho (▰˘◡˘▰)

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I mean it's not actually nok's fault that he's kind hearted like that :(( tbh thats on the people that'd use him(ﾉ｀Д´)ﾉ

pureeee, umm i wouldn't say but beautiful nonetheless. may everyone find such faithful love

also do you guys think that jaeshin will own come clean about why nok can see ghosts to him??

I know! I was 100% sure that we were entering the breakup arc! But no! I was so pleasantly surprised. I guess too many bl with Fck misunderstanding and miscommunication had ruined me (￣∇￣")

Gosh! I forget the spoilers' dots ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

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Ofc it's the ppl fault for using him, Nok's not to be blamed. Maybe I wrote vaguely ^^" I meant when you're too good/nice/kind there will be scumbags who'll hurt you :<
Hmm I don't know, one time I think he def will tell him, then that it's unlikely. My assumptions rarely come to fruition lately ╮(￣▽￣)╭
So let me share with you all a nice Chinese song which fills my mind these days. I think it fits to the second part of this chapter too: Ma di - Fearless.

Indeed Akane, badly written miscommunications/misunderstandings or when they are dragged, is nightmare#－.－)
Jaeshin might hit but some other hot iron XD (sorry I couldn't stop myself) Actually I deem it'd be better to let Nok calm himself, wait a few days and then shock him again. The nervous system has to regenerate!

SAMEEE
I ran here in case you put up a topic lmao .

I did not even realized I was holding my breath the entire time. the panels were so eye captivating and powerful.

also yeah even I had a hunch that chaehui could have been sick in the head before she got possessed. her resentment must be too strong for the ghost to latch onto her . atleast I wont have to feel remorse for her in the future

I ran too, thinkig maybe someone else has already put it and had more than me to say XD

My heart was thumping throughout this chapter! And Chaehui's first appearance scared the shit out me.

On one hand I'm recalling our wild guesses WHY the queen needs Nok's face. Now that we know there's no dark twisted magic in it, then maybe some regret appears? But on the other hand, it fits the plot very well and I like it when in the stories the evilness doesn't come from anything grand. That it's just a spark which makes the worst out of a certain person. Do you know Mo Dao Zu Shi? There are two such examples of it.

MXTX mention?!! okay ive been meaning to check out her other works for the longest time since I'm a huge tgcf enthusiast.

what would you suggest me , should I watch the series or read the novel (incase there is good online translation for it) ?

I'm a huge fan of The Grandmaster of demonic cultivation - it's so well planned story. I have one regret about the author though, but I don't want to spoil ;)
I have yet to read the official translation, so I can't tell about it - I've only read it's not so good? But who knows.
I def advise to read the novel first. They're BUNCH of titles, curtesy names, names, sects names..... I've tried the drama first - dropped at the beginning bc I didn't understand anythingXD then the novel - it sorted things out. Then anime (always forget what's the name of Chinese anime? donghua?) - and for now I've rewatched it 2 or 3 times - and lastly the drama - this time it all made sense ^__^

The cliffhanger is killing me! Jaeshin looks quite wounded. Will he be able to gather some strength for a last attack on the evil queen? I'm thinking there may be another intervention from someone to help them. Have we reached the season finale yet?

alright let me see if I can find the translation to mdzs somewhere. ive been going through a bad readers block since a couple years it sucks.

I wonder who can intervene in this situation. hoping we may see more of yeom although I doubt she's that powerful to manage something . also I'm quite confused about are we up for season's finale or series? donwe know if there'll be s4 as well? (although I thought it may have read about the creator's mentioning it somewhere but I'm not longer sure)

I've read Exiled Rebels Scanlations. I think it's good but I can't compare with the original (ofc;D) and beining not native English speaker it's hard for me to rate the quality. However nothing rose my suspicious. You can write me if you'll have a problem with finding it;)

Now I'm sure there won't be season 4;__; I wish I'm mistaken though.
I predict 3-4 chapters and the end. Maybe we'll get a special episode too.

Deedee, all those talks that Jaeshin will protect Nok and to never leave his side, and now what? As soon as he entered the queen's quarters he's starting to rot from the inside, then got himself pierced by some dark energy... Maybe his brothers will come to the rescue?;) A wild idea... I fear Jaeshin might shield Nok and (kinda) die. Yeom can't help bc she's weak and can't leave prince's quarters.

Aren't we like the three ghosts lingering here, waiting for the next Thursday?(〜￣△￣)〜

You can find the official translation of it through seven seas (who also licensed tgcf and scum villain, mxtx two other works). its a great story

Oh no, we need season four! I don't wanna to end!

OK wait now that chp 86 has updated , im confused if this is before the queen got possessed or after? cause she looks way too young in 86 as compared to 91

I'm positive it was before she was possessed because I saw in the raws that she met the dark spirit right after Nok's mother punished her for bullying the young maid, when she was a child, if I'm not wrong...

I've assumed Daisy knows about the published versions ;D I've read when there's only unofficial one of Mo dao zu shi, though. Later when the books were out I've read opinions dissing this translation (from ppl claiming they've read the Chinese original), but I dunno.

However scum villain was awful, horrible. I absolutely don't recommend it, actually dissuade from reading it.

I agree with akane. First they've met as small children, when Chaehui was relishing she can see ghosts - others not, and ppl's fear bc of that. As well as power she can get from it. But she wasn't in cahoots with the great evil. I think she killed him a few years later also on her own. Massacring Yeom's family should also be done solo by Chaehui...

What do you think: the only thing Chaehui wanted the most, but even the great evil couldn't get her, was resurrecting Nok's mother to torment her? But wasn't she the one who killed her?

HAHA i loved scum villain but yeah everybody has different opinions. The official TL was criticized, but the one by exiled rebels wasn't that good either, so I still think its better to stick with the official TL if anybody plans to read mdzs

oh yeah thanks a bunch! I was aware of the official translation by SS, but was a bit hesitant to spend money upfront since I'm not sure how long it might take me to finish even one volume due to my reader’s slump

okay now I get yall. I kind of overlooked the fact that she killed the kid a few years after they met. I went back to check chap86 and yeah they do look a bit more grown towards the part where she killed him. ( that was my main concern cause i was thinking she killed him soon-ish after they met and that'd have made her even more of an unhinged psychopath)

I guess something like that? I'll have to re-read the initial chapters again but wasn't nok'@s mother's death because they found out about the things( i don't remember what they were called) in his room and they sentenced her? ig in chaehui's books, its not considered much of tormenting. and since she started resenting the previous queen after the punishment incident , maybe she wanted her to suffer even more ?

Yeah, different taste :)
Actually the scum villain was the only one from the trio which I've read full the official translationXD As for Mo dao I'm planning to (re)read - just waited some time after first reading :) In the end it might be that someparts were better in exiles rebels and others in the official.

Yes, it was bc of the talismans that protected Nok. I've thought all the time it's Chaehui's doing to reveal them. But if so wouldn't she know it could lead to the queen's death? Her plan was to send the queen into exile and the torment her there?

the queen really is one of the best villains ive come across in manhwas recently. her blood covered panel looked so hot!!

ngl would have loved if kj would have suffered a slow death tho

Was that Nok's father standing in front of the queen? Did he finally saw who she was from the beginning? What did she say to him after she killed KJ? Or was it KJ's father? I'm confused. All the old dudes look the same xD

Noo, it's doseungji - her brother (or I'm not sure if we know their exact relation, could be a cousin) KJ went to him for help and to tell Nok knows now everything. I believe KJ couldn't have entered the queen's house on his own.
I'm going to go through that dialogue and the one between Jaeshin and Nok in detail so have some patience with me;D It was smth about eating flesh and how it works. Other than that doseungji begged for his life, then she tells him to bring her son if he wants to live. In person.

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Queen(or the evill possessing her, 'cause they're the black bubbles):
I tried not to eat dirty human bodies as much as possible...
But now after eating it, I guess I can live awhile.
Just as I've thought, this kind of body is not enough... I need more. Dirtier, more odious...
Bring the Grand Prince.
I need to take that body, which received all kinds of sordid/filthy misfortunes.
Even If I masticate your nauseating entrails a hundred times, they can't be compared to that filthy one.
If you don't want to die, bring him with your own hands.
Right now-!!!

tbc.

OMG! It's so creepy xD Thanks for the translation. I guess Nok and Jaeshin will arrive right on time to save the young prince. The end of the season is near...

You're welcome :) Yeah, and I love it when it's creepy :D I hope daegun will be safe. I bet Nok will rush to save him, so Jaeshin will have to interneve :3 So many great moments before us. But now the end seems to be nearer... I don't want to...( T﹏T )

The last part. Jaeshin: "there's nontrivial murderous aura oozing from the queen's quarters. Worse than usual." He's aware someone got killed, but doesn't know who. As well as that daegun's life time is getting shorter rapidly, so they have to hurry up. If the kid dies, "the things will become more difficult". Also his inner thoughts: "It seems Han Chaehui is commiting every possible atrocity to save her life. But it's not much of use."

Now I noticed the ghost's are gathering probably in the daegun's quarters - I was looking for the hanja in the last panel, but couldn't find them. I'm sure about "the gate" thoughXD The one in the middle looks similar (but mirrored!) to 賢xian: honorific for younger generation. Jaeshin commented someone could think there will be a feast, the ghost's are swarming like a pack of dogs looking for smth to eat.
And then he reminds Nok to stick to him no matter what happens. :3

I wonder how nok will react after he finds out about kj cause however shitty the person he was still his childhood friend. jaeshin didn't tell him about someone dying yet .
I don't want this to end (T＿T)

I'm living for nok in his crown prince element. he's stealing all my attention in these recent chapters. and his dressing sense ? that hanbok he wore in his last panels oh god lord.

I wonder it as well. I was so sure kyeonjung's gonna blurt out about nok to his father. I wonder why he didn't tho. also do you think there's a chance of the queen being the one responsible for his death? but why? because their plan didn't work? and my major concern being , if it's actually her , will she use his ghost to torment nok :( . although I'm not sure if that'll be possible or not

Yeah! I've wondered if he borrowed it from Jaeshin:D Bc he had a very similar one once.

The only reason could be that he was too ashamed and too disgusted to tell it to his father? Or it's not the he has the evidence...
Sure thing it's her. Kyeongjun knows that she's plotting against the crown prince now and about that cursed brush. Even if without the details, since Nok has it, it's a proof of using black magic by the queen.
And his only use was either to help kill Nok or wipe his whole family for treason and prevent them from being on the crown prince's side in the future. Kyeongjun's father wasn't on the list of queen's helpers, so she could've wanted to punish him and get rid of him.

Great point with making Kyeongjun evil ghost! But is his hatered strong enough? I'm not convinced. And Jaeshin would gladly pulverised him on the spot ^_~

nah you're right. his ghost probably won't be having much effect on nok. atleast not anymore. well I'm sat for jaeshin blowing hi brains out tbh. or even better yet , maybe he ends up going to the empress or doing something else stupid and nok finally charges him to treason.

also about the kid ghost, is it that his remnants were divided and given to the guy with burn on his face and the rest will be used on the bitch? is that how it is cause i don't think i understood that part completely.

Hmm, they don't mention dividing the remnants. Maybe after returning the curse they're still there and can be buried for example?
What I don't get is the point of returning them to Seo-eung. He digged it out, Jaeshin gave them to the kid (I've forgotten his name :O) and then he's touched by that and accepts Chaehui's fate (and his own) so returns them to Jaeshin to make the curse. But his last request is to give them back to Seo-eung (probably afterward)? Like a keepsake? What are they? Bones and ashes most likely.
I'm also not sure about this part but the kid's thanking for Seo-eung's longing for him and remembering him. He's the one who's sorry and he hopes, from now on, Seo-eung will keep living remembering holding his hand and kindness (given to the kid).

Kyeongjun dying so soon doesn't really makes sense. He had such an influence on Nok in S1 and now he's gone just like that. He turned evil quite fast and then he died in his first attempt to get to Nok xD His character had more potential than that. I would have liked seeing more jealousy from Jaeshin because of him. Now the plot will be ultimately centered around the queen herself. And there's also this other part of the plot with the old man who lost his son because of Jeashin. He's looking for revenge as well. He'll come bothering us near the end for sure

well we certainly haven't seen the last of kyeongjun. I hope we atleast have 2-3 chapters or more of the backstory of how he ended up dead.

wait did the old guy from the initial chapters show up recently?? I really do wonder what he can do for revenge lmao.
but since we seem to be reaching the climax soon , do you guys think we're getting a season finale or series? cause the creators did say we'll have atleast 100 chapters and we're just round the corner. [ helpp now that's ive typed the last part , I feel like we may as well be ending the season with kyj's death and then there's next season could very well just before centered on queen[

Well Kyeonjun had it coming, he was always just a pawn to the queen(she dosen't care for anyone) to harm and spy the prince, if wasn't of use she'll kill him, even more if the prince knows he's a traitor.
Also he is a proud, arrogant man, and homophobic. In S1 we could see it, he wasn't "nice" or "kind" with the people around him, as the prince's friend he was entitle to be rude and arrogant, also his offer to marry his sister was driven to position himself higer.
But i also hope we can get 1 or 2 more chapters with him

I want to believe the authors will show us him dying in the next chapter (⊙ ω ⊙ ) I bet they know about our hatred towards this person ;)
I noticed, while he talked with his father, he was shocked the brush had a curse and was to cause real harm. He said he only wanted to gain Nok's favour with a rare gift.
Maybe he ended up this quickly bc he was soooo much blinded and from the beginning of s3 he started to be guided by emotions only. While previously he planned everything carefully.

I also was thinking recently about that man with spots on his face. He showed like 20 chapters ago for a panel and then nothing again.

As for the length hmm could it end within <10 chapters? Spring indicates the End and seasons in Gwiyagok match seasons in Korea (more or less). Thus while the spring is around the corner there so... There's not much time left for a few months hiatus;__; Which means it's the last season but I (can only) hope for 20 (30?:333) more chapters.
Even if there will be like 120 of them at the very most - it's not that much don't you think? But when I recall it... so many memories, emotions, eh~
Daisy, you're right as hell, ch 89 was perfect for ending the season and leaving us hanging from a cliff for months ;)

I can see some event(?) "Primavera luminosa from the Ghost's Nocturne". You know what's that? Looks like it's on insta and for Nok's birthday tomorrow.

unfortunately I haven't come across anything regarding nok's birthday event on insta until now :( now I'm getting curious

although I could see some onsite events on X which caught my eyes. a cup sleeve event and exhibition named "seasons of nok" in Tokyo (god i wish i was there) and another one was project red plum blossoms which ig were insta ads.

guys did you see the illustration CRJ posted for our nok's birthday!??? HE LOOKS MAGNIFICENT

YESSS!!! (thanks to you<3) Magnificent and so adult/grown-up ^___^
I hoped she has more pictures on her account though :<

I've forgotten to ask you Daisy, do you perhaps possess a file of this picture when both of them are sleeping in white sheets? I guess it was only printed and sold as postcards but maybe it is somewhere out there...

are you maybe talking about the modern art postcard which is ig from last year some event ? if so, then yes i did find it from somewhere . but it has light watermark over it and sadly the creators' signature was all cleaned :(