this was so good, its so upsetting that it’s not as popular as other manhwas other there - like wdym rapist shit shows like low tide in twilight and roses and champagne are more popular than this beauty
so glad that yiyeon was both vx and black as well - it was clear that he was black from the beginning but i didn’t expect him to be vx, so i was a little worried it’d kinda be like a love triangle situation but it was so much better than i expected.
jin and yiyeon are so cute omdss i love them so much i didn’t expect kov to be a woman but I LOVE HER LET ME HAVE HER i hope she and roou get side stories as well as yiyeon’s uncle, that man is so fine OH ALSO THE CAFE OWNER AND MS KIM
can’t wait for more side stories, they’re so beautiful urgh
YESSSS r&c and ltit whackings! waiter! waiter! more whackings please!!
lmfaooo i’ll take any opportunity to bash those two and any other manhwas w the rapist plot - IM SO SICK OF IT. why do these bl authors make it a fetish IM TIRED
additionally, im exhausted w all the love for taeju. “oh he’s changed” “he loves euhiyun” “he’s a green flag now” SHUT UP YOU BRAIN DEAD IMBECILE
finally FINALLY eventually, he stopped raping and exploiting euhiyun and now what, i’m supposed to applaud him tf?? let me not even start with caeser
All the popular bl manhwa out there are all either fucked up or fucked up and toxic
EXACTLYYY UGH
honestly if bl authors wanted to take the "dark topics" route i wouldn't mind as long as they treat the topic with sensitivity and care ---- which the majority obviously don't, which is really a pity.
i see SO much glaze for roses & champagne and low tide in twilight. you know, if they were hated on 24/7 and everyone unanimously agreed it was rape fetish trashy trauma porn i would be fine with it existing, but it having a 9.6 rating and almost entirely positive comments, almost all of which are about a stupid fucking baby that was clearly just a plot device to push this idea of taeju and euihyun being a happy couple (which is so completely nonsensical and laughable, euihyun ALREADY had a baby which was his brother that he practically fathered on his own, i dont even understand this whole pregnancy deal, is it propaganda for the low birth rate???) just drives me completely fucking insane like do you people even hear yourselves??? everyone on mangago is straight from booktok i swear. sorry for the rant i had to get this out of me.
no right, like you CAN write about dark, sensitive topics but there is zero need to throw in the sexual assault/rape factor. like, do they think it makes them look cool and edgy bc they make the top rape the bottom and force them together???? atp, it’s so famous bc the readers love watching a man rape another man, and the authors cant stop writing it too bc one its a fetish and two, it racks in sm money - bc the popular bls like low tide in twilight, jinx, r&c etc all have rapist tops
AND OMG YESSS THE BOOKTOK THING - theyre all just the same istg. booktok bitches (and i say bitches in respect to everyone regardless of gender lol) are so brain dead. them and these bl fetishers just have such porn riddled brains like how booktok go crazy for dark romance with rapist tops (ie. zade from haunting adeline) like if you like cnc, that’s fine - everyone has their own kinks - but to like and enjoy reading about straight up rape is fucking insane i’m so tired of these people
Cesar is developing BACKWARDS! We are at side stories and we are back square 1 with all that rape shit .
“back square 1” it was always at square one every single time they have sex its either leewon being raped or coerced into sex, he’s never 100% given clear consent and caeser always ignores him. there was never a chance for caeser to develop at all, he’s always been a rapist and had that rapist mindset from the start
After re-reading rose and champagne, I have to agree with you. Their relationship was only good when he was just helping leewon with his case. I guess I became colour blind
FINALLY SOME FLUFF THANK YOU
also, we listen AND we judge. why must everytime i wanna read, the first thing i see is a minor’s ass cheeks on my screen what the fuck is wrong with you
i said this last week and i’ll say this again, IDGAF ABOUT THAT PIECE OF SHIT BROTHER
oh he had a terrible childhood, oh he was abused - YES. YES HE WAS. he’s a victim of domestic abuse, there’s no one saying otherwise. i feel terrible for him as a child, that’s a given.
but his abuse as a child doesn’t give him an excuse to find someone else as an adult and then abuse AND rape them tf?? you guys get a backstory of an abusive rapist and suddenly everyone forgets what he’s done in the present, oh give me a break
you took the words right of my mouth its so annoying to see because no way i read the same manhwa with these stupid people
like everyone in the comments has said, this is an absolute fucking shit show. so many unresolved issues, plot holes, inconsistencies in general - but most importantly, i’d like for tae-eun to get his own story. he’s such a great guy and the author set him up for his own story if i’m being honest: besides the fact that he has a bf, let’s add onto the fact that he’d gets calls or messages and randomly disappear and not to mention the one scene where he and seoyoon are working out and he mutters about how he exercises and works out to stay alive - smth to that effect.
and can the author give us some side stories. the main story was an angsty inconsistent disaster so the least they could do is give us some happy, healthy fluffy side stories that make us completely forget the main story
so i’ve wanted to read this for a while now, but whenever i open the comments everyone is always screaming at nathan lol can someone please tell me why/what’s wrong - i don’t mind spoilers btw
i'm kind of high and only skimmed but it seems nathan knows what he wants and doesn't put up with anything. he also doesn't think it's his job to make up for the insecurities of his partner. and he doesn't seem to put up with communication issues too, which is real.
Ooh, I mean for a relationship to work, partners have to discuss these things and yknow not just let your other partner handle it by themselves or leave because they have some insecurities.
But I also get that it’s too much.
i’ve heard people say nathan cheated too
yeah, i didn't expect him to walk away like that lmfao
maybe? idk if they were officially together but nathan accepted an offer from a guy, it turned into a pathetic cuck thing and then they both walked away without doing anything with the other guy. but it was definitely considered which is diabolical
Yeah I saw. Yikes. Nathan did it because he was jealous and wanted to be with Andrew.
Both piss me off today
yes i love the main couple so much, and yes i love geon and ajin so much BUT WDYM CHUNGSAN DIED WHAT THE FUCK MAN HE DIDNT DESERVE THAT
sobbing my eyes out, everyone went through so much esp haesoo, but i can’t get over chungsan’s death. when i saw geon carrying his body out, i really hoped there was a way for him to come back
Not just you me too I was wishing he was alive
the story itself wasn’t terrible, but it definitely could have been executed much better. there’s plenty of lingering questions and plot holes left, so i really hope we get side stories or at least a lengthy epilogue that wraps everything up. AND SUCH A CUTIE PATOOTIE BABY AJEOEJEOEK
oh and give haemin and taegun their own story right now excuse me