ShogunHogan's Topics (283)

I though that his sister looked like Rain. Even though Christoph and Rain look alike

Yeah, that's true too, but I feel like the similar imagery they were showing between Christoph and his sister might have been signifying they were related. Either that or it was just showing that Christoph reminded Ryan of her because he was someone he cares about who ended up getting involved with the VS solution.

You're bullshitng but I wish that most of that happened

Instead I think that him will discover it so he will fight with Heejae but at the end he will forgive him)(I hope it will not be like this)

Lmao Jisuh's not the type to do that. He's not someone that freaks out easily,he himself said that he just doesn't start a relationship just because he feels like it,he doesn't even like Sunyool so I find that very difficult. Plus,I remember they didn't film when they did things,so eventually there are only tapes of Sunyool with Heejae,but even if there was a tape,Heejae won't leak it because he's a beloved actor whose sexuality is unknown,plus what he did in those tapes is a bit hardcore,do you really think he would destroy his reputation? Also,he's not the type to do that either,not anymore,I think,and I also think Jisuh wouldn't fall for that trick.

Ummm, he definitely would freak out if he knew his new bf was manipulating him by using his ex to beat him up and mug him just to make him vulnerable to his advances. Also, he definitely does like Sun-Yool somewhat, maybe not to the same extent as Heejae at the moment but that could easily change once he finds out that Sun-Yool really was trying to protect him by telling him that Heejae was a scheming, manipulative asshole, which he definitely was.

In which way was Sunyool trying to protect him? He took part in Heejae's shit too,and hw acted like a stalker by getting a job where Jisuh works,of course he's not as bad as Heejae but he's not an innocent person either. Also,I cannot understand why you think Jisuh likes Sunyool,he clearly stated he likes Heejae,whether Heejae deserves his love or not,and that Sunyool is just a friend to him. Even if he discovered everything and he freaked out,he simply would not run into Sunyool's arms,because he doesn't like him and he isn't that reckless,that's all. I think he would either talk it out with Heejae,take a break from their relationship or just break up and be gone; at least this is what I feel Jisuh would do,it's just my opinion of course.

How did he take part in it? Reread the whole thing from chapter one. You will notice so many little details hinting the present if you pay attention (it's fun :)) . He is shown not to know all the details. Furthermore, his character changed a lot from the beginning.

The way that I literally just said, if you're not going to read what you respond to and then reply with a books worth of non-arguments I see no point in reiterating. He was trying to protect him by telling him the truth, that Heejae was a manipulative asshole, Jisuh chose not to listen and now he's going to have to learn the hard way it seems. Simple as that.

Also, dude either you are terrible at reading social cues or you just haven't been paying attention, Jisuh clearly likes Sun-Yool to some extent already, after he learns that he was just trying to save him some heartache by warning him about Heejae, I can practically guarantee he's going to like him even more, but whatever you say home girl.

^Yep.

He might not have known everything,but when he talked with Heejae he stated various times that if he had to take part in his manipulative stuff,he wanted at least to have fun. He was okay with it,in the beginning. And he just warned Jisuh to not get too involved with Heejae without telling him anything,not even when Heejae was around them. Plus,he acted like a stalker someway too. I understand that he changed,but in the past he wasn't so innocent as y'all are protraying him.

Lmao I read everything I respond to,I'm sorry if it looked like I didn't,but I did. Sunyool just warned Jisuh not to get to involved with Heejae,you understand that a vague warning like that doesn't really make the person you're warning understand what the danger is. He never told anything about what Heejae did,not even when the bastard wasn't around them. I wouldn't call that "protection",but whatever,maybe it's just ny point of view. Plus,I don't see all this "Jisuh likes Sunyool" thing,if he told him to be friends there's a reason,he didn't just tell him out of the blue to run into his arms after. People can't like a person just because they tried to help and protect them (which is not the case,yeah he warned him;but still it was pretty vague),because that's something a friend can do too,and people don't build relationships on something like that,because you have to like the person phisically and you have to also like their personality. You have to like the type a relationship a person can give you,but in Jisuh and Sunyool's case,Jisuh simply doesn't have romantic feelings towards him and he wouldn't like the type of relationship Sunyool can offer him.

If you meant that he likes him as a friend I understand,but still he doesn't have romantic feelings for him so a relationship between those two sounds unrealistic,imho it wouldn't work,because even if Jisuh developed feelings for Sunyool,Sunyool would be more involved because his feelings are clearly strong and that could end up bad. And,I repeat,Jisuh needs a more mature relationship,that Sunyool can't give him. I would love to see Sunyool with another character who can make him turly happy tho,because Jisuh is too gloomy for a person like him and that might be a little...prohibitive for Sunyool,I think,since he's the type who,in my opinion,would like a fluffy relationship.

When did he say that? I literally re-read the manga recently and found him stating that he doesn't like what the snake guy was doing all the way back in chapter 3. Even if he did know the details in the beginning, it can be argued that him trying to scare the brown haired guy so he would leave was a good act although it was unintentional so he was still not likable in the begging because intentions matter the most. Seriously, in the beginning, he was just a bitchy dick and I didn't like him either but then we saw some really good character development.

I really insist that you reread the whole story because you will see a lot of small details all the way back from chapter one which shows how this was all planned. You start making a lot of connections and it's very fun too. Also, how could he really warn the guy with all the details if that could have led to a couple scenarios such as
a) The guy doesn't believe him
b) The guy thinks he is making stuff up in order to make the black haired guy look bad so he stops trusting the blonde. (really, if someone told you a bunch of weird stuff like that you probably wouldn't believe them either)
c) He believes him
Some of those options are clearly more likely than others.

Him getting a job in the same place as the brown haired guy was a bit weird and uncalled for but it wasn't stalker-like. It can also be easily explained with the fact that he was in love and people who fall in love typically do what they can to be around that person.

Btw, I can agree that the two of them shouldn't date. It just wouldn't work out and yeah they do need different people.

I feel you're trying so hard to defend Sunyool,but it's fine because we all do that with characters we like. I re-read the manhwa not long time ago,still,for me Sunyool was okay with taking part in Heejae's shit just for fun,in the beginning. Him trying to scare Jisuh can't be viewed as a good act just because as you said,intentions matter,and his intention was to tease Jisuh because it was funny. I think you're forgetting he literally made Jisuh join them with the rope thing (even if it might have been one of Heejae's plans,but he agreed to it anyway). Also,Heejae in that chapter said some creepy shit like "I won't let him run off",Sunyool's comment was referred to that and it's understandable that he doesn't like that aspect of Heejae,that's creepy af. Btw,he could just have told him,yeah,maybe Jisuh wouldn't have trusted him,but he could have tried if he loved him that much as he stated. Just saying what danger he was putting himself into would have been enough,he wouldn't have needed to tell him all the fucked up stuff in order,that's unrealistic. I'm sure I'm wrong,but a part of me thinks that he didn't say that so Jisuh wouldn't have discovered anything about his partecipating in Heejae's plans either. I agree that he has some good character development,but you can agree that in the beginning he wasn't an angel,and he could have done something to try and help Jisuh out (from protecting him from Heejae's plans) and to reedem himself too. It's not about if his warnings would convinve Jisuh or not,it's about trying;you don't want the person you love to suffeer. About the job thing,for me it's lowkey creepy,nobody does that,not in real life. I mean,think about that situation happening to you. Wouldn't you be creeped out? It's not an understandable behaviour because yeah,maybe you'd try to be near the person you love (although I see Sunyool's love more like a crush,all the heart beating and stuff he was talking about in ch.41 seems pretty normal for a crush,but I might be wrong),but getting a job where they work is just...creepy. He didn't need to go that far. Btw,all this is just my opinion.

I feel like your username is highly accurate as to the effect you have on those reading your replies. Look dude, one is slightly annoying, one is a sociopath. You pick whichever you want, you do you, idgaf anymore haha.

Well,I'm sorry if I tried to give some argumentations which support what I think. If you don't want to read the replies to you thread,just don't read them or don't start any thread. Simple,isn't it? But,hey,hear me out,what if I picked none? Crazy,right? There are billions of people in the world,why should Jisuh get stuck between toxic people and unhealthy relationships?

There is no need to be rude just because you don't agree with them. I don't either. Frankly, I find their lack of an ability to write in paragraphs irritating since all I see is a huge block of text and yeah it's giving me a migrate but I'm not going to be mean and tell them since that would create a chance for the whole argument/debate to turn into two idiots insulting themselves. But whatever since you don't care anymore.

Let's just agree to disagree because this most likely won't go anywhere.


Btw, I like your username. Was it just random or did you decide to choose it because of the song by twenty-one pilots?

Lmao sorry but since I write on the phone (maybe a bit too fast) and since it's just a discussion on the internet about a yaoi I didn't pay much attention whether the text was divided in paragraphs or it cointained errors (English's not my first language so the grammar I use is pretty poor too).
Btw,yep,I chose it because it's from twenty one pilots ^^

*into paragraphs

Well it's not my first language either but it's the only language I can write in. Also, I'm kinda jealous because I can't even type on my phone which gets very irritating when I text my friends.

Lol from the drunk scene i think it was trying to show that deep down, he kinda does care. But I hate to break it to ya, he is probs going to act like an asshat the second he wakes up
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I actually think that it is quite realistic. In the real life children rarely get protections before it is too late, criminals are rarely punished for their crimes and very rich peoples can buy their way out. It sad but it is the truth.

Perhaps, but it didn't even seem like anyone fucking tried to report it. Did the police even have the slightest suspicion as to why she was covered in BUCKETS of blood from a single small cut and was holding a bloodstained cutting weapon when they arrived. Also, I'm extremely fucking disappointed in Yeonduk's mom for not revealing all of the times that she said she would murder her children to the police after an incident like that and then leaving her two small children in her custody after that. There are many things that could have and should have been done, but nobody even tried, it's so fucked up.

Well, we have seen real life stories about people in danger reporting to the police horrible crimes or abuses and the police doing nothing. We also have this story about a whole building knowing that a children was cruelly abused every day (they even heard him scream and beg) and not reporting it because "they thought some else already reported it". This world is beyond fucked up.

By the way, the child was one day so beaten up that he died.

Oh, so your logic is, well sure, his mom may have tried to murder him as a child several times, but at least he's not a fucking murder victim? Sure, you could always pick and choose someone with a worse life, especially a fucking DEAD PERSON, that doesn't mean the atrocious shit happening to other living people is any lesser. Your logic is so totally fucking sociopathic and utterly lacking in basic empathy it's despicable...

This was not my point at all. Of course the right thing to do was reporting the mother and doing everything possible to prevent her to get close to her children. What I was saying is that sadly those things do happen in real life so it is not far stretched or completely unrealistic. Showing the opposite of the moral thing to do in a story can have a cathartic effect and provoque a powerful reaction in the readers. Sometimes, It can even advocate for a cause like child's protection and the lake of child's protection in our society better that a story with a perfect resolution. We don't want to be like Skyler's mum, but we don't want to act like Yeonduck's mom either after reading this story and we blame the both of them, making us swear to act if we were to be suspicious of child abuse. (Felicitation for reading this super long explanation until the end).

Well said :)

Difficult family situations are just that, difficult. They aren't easily solved or have a clear path. Maybe as readers observing things yes, but not necessarily as a bystander. It's harder to take action and swoop in and save the day. As a kid in the family itself its even harder to take any action (and if there is an "action" to be taken, what is it?). Also keep in mind Korean culture and the idea of keeping up appearances.

I think you're forgetting the part where Lu has massive bouts of blacking out and attacking people and taking whole chunks of flesh out of them. Ever think that just maybe he's doing this for the safety of his ex? Imagine how horrible it would be if you suddenly come back to your senses and your other half is dead with his neck in chunks while you have the taste of his blood in your mouth

^ Agree with reply.

Yes, just when he doesn't take his meds, which he seems to need thanks to psycho bro the science guy because it looked like he murdered him in the first place to turn him into what he has become. All he needs from that dude is his meds, as long as he takes those he and his ex could live a perfectly normal life. But noooo, Sadsack McSociopath has to hold him hostage and bribe him with meds for continuous study and torture sessions with no happiness allowed...

Regardless if even we're to put this story in the context of our world, if you really think meds would suffice an "anomaly" like this, then you're just as brain dead as the main character. Do you really think everything is sugar spice and evrything nice if we even followed your "alternate" choice? Someone is bound to flip their shit even if it is not the main character. Plus how sure are you that An doesn't have feelings? We don't even fully know who and how the characters got to where they are. This story is just starting, so I suggest keeping our minds open to possibilities.

Who said anything about "our world?" Clearly none of this is a feasible possibility in our world, but in the world of the manga, regular medication (daily injections) are what is successfully preventing him from losing control of his illness. This is the plain logic of the story itself and the reason that Bakugo had to shut down his ex is because off-brand Sasuke's daddy told him that Bakugo having any emotional reactions either too high or too low could disrupt the recording of data for his biological examinations. Therefore, because his daddy, who is a mad scientist with zero moral or ethical fibers in his body, asked him to keep Bakugo from being too happy in the name of science he crushed his dreams and those of his ex to continue completely inhumane whacky ass tests, making him a douchebag.

Also, for the further questions:
A) "How do you know everything's sugar and spice in the alternative match up?:" Never said I did, but literally anything is better than falling for the person who had you murdered and turned into a lab rat.
B) "How do you know off-brand Sasuke doesn't have feelings?": Who cares if he has feelings? He had him murdered, horribly tortured and treated like an animal, crushing all hopes for happiness and outside connections along the way. It's practically impossible to find a worse person to be in a relationship with and the author presented a perfectly normal (especially by those standards) alternative and just pissed it away for seemingly no reason but evoking the feels (and also the facepalms).

*I wouldn't count this as a spoiler, but some would, so, warning!!












Actually, throughout the story there is more than one person competing for Lulang. (Or Bakugo, or Ka-chan, haha!)

MIND. BLOWN. lol

Ah, I was just saying so since you wrote that there was only one relationship that was possibly available. The relationship here is not set stone and the author does a great job eventually making the readers torn between the sides. So, I wouldn't quite say there will be a "heart stomping", depending on the side you pick.

(Although, I'm not sure that you were being sarcastic or not, my bad.)

Nah, it's all good, but I just think the main dude in that competition kinda sucks... Like a lot

this is so sad alexa play gangnam style