I come back to read this once in a while because I love how subtle their chemistry is and I’m never disappointed at the light-hearted fluffy warm feelings it gives me. No matter what anyone else says, I find their chemistry very interesting and the bantering is a hundred percent my kind of thing. Maybe it’s because my parents are kind of similar to these two so their relationship dynamic is completely normal to me lol. I’m more of an “action speaks much louder than words” anyway and although the seme is cold sometimes, it is very obvious that he cares deeply for the uke. He knows when exactly it’s important to communicate and I think he needs someone brutally honest and straightforward like the uke to brighten him up. The uke knows he can be too forthcoming and aggressive at times and he’s apologized for that, but in the end, they both accepted each other for who they were and I think that’s most important.
Personally, I don’t find anything toxic about this relationship. As long as the two people understand each other’s needs and are able to accept them without feeling forced or uncomfortable, then it’s perfectly fine no matter how outsiders see it. There’s no such thing as a relationship that always goes the way you want it to anyway. That’s how it works in the real world anyway. What’s toxic to one person is not necessarily toxic to another. Like how sometimes we think our friends got a really shitty partner because you don’t like this or that about them and think it’s wrong or toxic but then they decide to stay together and actually made it work despite what you told them. Sometimes you were right and sometimes you weren’t lol you just got to accept some people will forever see things differently than you do (because they have their own life and experiences) and it isn’t wrong or dumb to feel different than others. Still one of my fav BL of all time! ^^
Actually same I have re read it like 6 times in past 5 years and it's still my alll time frvt there is something about them especially their chemistry that i never see in any manga perfect
Main couple is cute af but seriously, what the heck happened with the side couple? I already knew Seungho was probably going to end up being the side couple but I did not expect Doyoon to be end game. It was so obvious from the start the two fucked up their relationship so bad it ended up causing Seungho to literally attempt murder 2 times because Doyoon wasn’t able to accept who Seungho (and really, himself) was. Their relationship was so toxic on many levels. Sure, they started off definitely in love with each other, but because of all the family drama/pressure, they weren’t able to freely love each other properly and ended up turning their love into an obsessive need where they feel like only they can understand each other’s pain and anxiety. By the end of season 2, I wanted them to realize that it wasn’t love they felt for each other, but a call for someone to accept them for who they are. And this finally started to happen when the manager tried to help Seungho with his trauma. I was hoping for Seungho to say goodbye to Doyoon at the streets because it was the best for them to part and start loving themselves. Really, that would’ve made the most sense but no the author actually said “fuck all” to basically all the character development thus far and went back to square one. I don’t mind if they dated again like 2-3 years later but that was wayyyy too fast for all the toxic shit to disappear. The manager would’ve been better for Seungho on many levels.
I think those who hate Raphael for not liking Cayena back then and only liking her now are forgetting something really important. This isn’t about liking someone only after they have changed for you. This isn’t about liking someone only after they stop clinging onto you. Cayena back then traumatized Raphael everyday by touching him without knowing he had a serious issue with skinship.
And most importantly, this story is about reincarnation. Have you forgotten that this Cayena is basically NOT even the same person as the Cayena back then? We are talking about two completely different people who simply share the same face. If you stick the same beautiful face on ten different people, are you going to fall in love with all of them? Of course not because falling in love for outer appearance reasons never ends well and we all know that. It’s all about the person inside. The Cayena he knew from the past and the Cayena now are LITERALLY two different people who just happen to share the same face. That’s all there is. You don’t fall in love with faces only. That’s a totally different woman standing there in front of him.
Incase some people don’t know, this story got recently licensed on English lezhin. I think there’s only 6 chapters officially translated there as of now. So if you want to support the author don’t forget to check it out there as well.
I’m sorry but if this story actually gets punished for plagiarizing, I will seriously flip my shit. No matter how similar these two manhwa may appear, it is absolutely not plagiarism. If something of this level is called plagiarism, no one would ever be allowed to publish a psychological thriller where we have Stockholm syndrome, kidnapping, toxic relationships, and sexual abuse because it’ll always be linked to KS, which is total BS. In fact, I can name a few manhwa which also have similar themes but never got called out for their plots, for example, The Warehouse.
Just because Killing Stalking was released first doesn’t mean all of a sudden they hold all the rights to such a story. It is undeniable that people will draw comparisons between the two which is fine, but if someone officially states this is a plagiarized story, I don’t even know what to say. The main reason why people have the impression this is KS is because of the art, which if you read the author’s previous work “Behind the Desk” you will see it was originally her art style but drawn darker on purpose to fit the theme. Other than that, you can’t call it copying. Sangwoo obsessed over his mother and was mentally unstable whereas the seme here respects his “teacher” or the uke’s sister and is trying to commit revenge for her sake. He is mentally sane and not a psycho who enjoys killing and tormenting people like Sangwoo. Bum had a twisted love towards Sangwoo whereas the uke here absolutely gives no fucks about the seme, only praises him as a god or savior, simply wants the sex because he’s bored, and wants to escape his life as a prostitute. The seme just happened to be there and is taking revenge for the uke’s sister and he locked the uke up with that blonde ass, which already is a completely different story because he isn’t even kidnapped alone. The most I can say is this story was probably inspired by KS, but knowing the author’s other work, they aren’t new to the toxic psycho boyfriend trope. It really isn’t plagiarism to me.
Point blank peridot.
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You know, I see this stuff a lot in manga and drama but I’m always confused as to the logic the parents use in this situation. I mean, you left your kid alone and pretty much disappeared from their life then suddenly you come back when your kid is married with a family and say that baby is mine or I deserve to see the baby. Like what??? How is that baby yours? Your child gave birth to that baby so that baby belongs to your child, not you. What nonsense are you speaking to say “oh no that baby is also mine and I deserve to see it” when you were never a part of your child’s life? What are you even going to do with that baby, claim it’s yours and take your child and baby out of the family? How dare you.
I get so tired reading comments on yaoi manga or webtoon these days, especially on this website, because there’s always people arguing this and that for honestly stupid reasons. All I wanted was a place to share how I enjoyed a story but everything is just full of hate in the comments and I don’t get it.
We’re all here to read a fictional story so what’s the point of getting so worked up and hating other folks for liking or not liking what has been written? Seriously, it’s all fiction and authors write stuff on purpose to portray characters a certain way so there’s literally no point in arguing over eachother saying this is toxic y’all disgusting or no he’s not I love him. Liking a toxic character doesn’t mean one is toxic and disgusting. Defending a toxic character’s behavior doesn’t mean that person is stupid. People have things called emotions and opinions that are all equally valid ESPECIALLY because this is a fictional story. Nothing is ever purely black and white, there’s always benefits and negatives to every relationship and every person views things differently. What is toxic to one person isn’t toxic to another and that’s just a fact people need to accept. There’s a reason why we don’t meddle in other people’s relationships in real life but because this is a fictional story (or relationship) everyone has access to, shit suddenly goes down to hell with people forcing their views on others.
Really, just accept that it’s a story and enjoy what you enjoy and leave others alone to see it as whatever they want. I buy all the chapters and read webtoons on Lezhin so I came here for a place to share my love for a few stories that I enjoyed there but it only dampened my reading experience so I probably won’t read comments here anymore...
Damn that’s a long ass comment
Yeaaah, the comment section in psychological and slice-of-life stories are always full of toxicity even though it's the slice-of-life genre, what'd they expect? orz
And your comment on authors purposefully writing stories to show readers a glimpse of what things could be, is spot-ON. Even some classic literature stories that are deemed legendary and are taught by scholars and professors around the world have similar themes like this story. Why? Just because it fucks with people's minds to like a certain a story despite it being so fucked up. (cough cough *Lolita* and *Wuthering Heights* COUGH)
Your comment is exactly how I feel.
I refer to them as the “Crusaders of Fictional Justice”.
The nickname I have given them IS ridiculous because fighting for the rights of illustrations IS very ridiculous.
OHtheNovelty hit the nail on the head too. When you have read and studied classic literature for fun or academically, you understand what the purpose of writing is. I have always wondered if the majority here are just not educated, well read, mature, or aware.
When one reads for enjoyment or to relax, a good book’s job is to take you to a different place mentally and capture you completely. This is why I have always loved to read. This is also why I am here. I am a grownup with so many responsibilities. I come here to mentally recharge, enjoy myself, and let go of reality.
I find it comforting to see others, like me, who understand what the very definition of fiction is and how enjoyable immersing yourself in a great fictional read can be.
The comment section has so many really good people who make cute, funny or endearingly honest comments. There are so many who have something positive to share. I really enjoy those comments. They make my day brighter.
Unfortunately, you do have to wade through an impossible amount of immaturity and ignorance (the definition of ignorance is lack of knowledge or information - for all you kiddos who may not understand the real definition of the word ignorance) to find others who understand these simple things.
Fiction is just fiction. It’s not an excuse, it is literally a genre of literature.
Most of the time I don’t even bother to keep scrolling and looking for normal, mature, educated, open minded, positive, or happy individuals since the number of the “Crusaders for Fictional Justice” far outnumber all the people who are just here to unwind and relax.
Anyways, A BIG THANK YOU to all of the people who just come to hang out, laugh and keep the mood light and relaxing. You make it so much fun to be here. I really do appreciate you!
I cannot understand why the majority do not understand this simple basic truth. I like your comment
I’m waiting to see where this story goes. I feel like everything so far is just the calm before the storm when shit actually hits the fan. Cain’s past life with Jooin isn’t revealed yet and I also want to see more of Yahwi and his family situation. We already had a whole season and a half of Yahwi and now I think it’s time we see Cain developing as a character. Knowing this author, they’ll probably pull a f-bomb somewhere with the plot and intertwine the past with the present somehow and I’m a sucker for stuff like that xD
I need to see Cain’s side of things before I decide how to feel about the story so far because right now, everyone is just so meh and typical. Yahwi has huge ego issues, sucks shit at communicating and then we have Cain with unknown intentions who I feel uncomfortable with because I don’t know what he’s up to and that makes me insecure and scared af. The only character I’m loving so far is Jooin. He looks like a pushover but boy can this guy actually speak his mind when shit comes down to it. He knows when he’s being treated poorly and isn’t taking shit from anyone. You go man.
HELL YEAH LETS GO MA BOI TSUKAMOTO!!! That goal got me crying so hard T_T it really hits differently when you know how hard he worked for to get to this level. ATTA BOY!!!