It’s so crazy people are justifying this scene behind bdsm, this is NOT okay. As a ACTUAL DOM, not a 50 shady of grey or mark me bark reader, but REAL LIFE DOM, you should NEVER try to purposely make your sub use the safe word. It is a word when your sub feels unsafe or very uncomfortable so the fact he pushed that till Chanwoo was in tears just because of unrequited feelings that weren’t in the original agreement is fucking shitty. This is NOT bdsm or what we stand for, this is manipulation, a man who loves control and masochistic abuse victim. I continued to read because I hoped for some redemption because I was a fan of the original story but THIS? It’s not it, and I bet it’ll be brushed over to put them in a relationship. If this was a psychological tag then I’d understand but this is ROMANCE, that’s the wild part.
whew! thank you, you couldn't have said it better!!
PREACH
honestly I don't feel like Chanwoo has the right to feel jealous cuz MD already confessed to him and he rejected him but like srsly a safe word is just there in case your partner isn't comfortable, you can't force him to say it by pulling shit like this, MD srsly fucked up. Chanwoo not saying the safe word whenever they had their play is proof that he is comfortable, why do you feel the need to make him say the word? Srsly fuck u MD
And I can already see those toxic fans coming in like "if you don't want to read don't" or "Chanwoo agreed to this" and all I gotta say is get some help cuz you're justifying manipulative shit
Yeah, I understand and i know I’m going to get hella dislikes but I still didn’t like the misrepresentation of the BDSM community, we don’t support abuse and manipulation. Bdsm relationships number one priority is trust, and MD pushed it.
exactly and from what i can tell there's already a lot of ppl who think abuse is ok in BDSM relationships which is not the case at all. there was literally a comment saying MD shouldn't have listened to chanwoo...
Sickos, and I bet it was a minor who made that comment.
But actual Doms are not perfect and can get swayed by their emotions. And Chanwoo isnt a good Sub either. He does not trust MD and is never comfortable with his wn limits. MD was trying teach Chanwoo that it is ok to say this is not what you want to do.
IRL relationships are not perfect so neither are MD and Chanwoo. MD isnt a perfect Dom can be swayed by his emotions and imo chanwoo is a terrible sub who has trust issues and cant ask for help when he needs it. Which is needed in a S/M relationship. If Chanwoo was able to communicate with MD Im pretty sure this could have been prevented
Trust me I got a lot of dislikes and backlash for expressing my opinions about wrong things in yaoi with the first one being consent and trust especially in stories that claim to be bdsm, it's usually new or underage yaoi fans who are not properly educated about stuff that come for reasonable ppl so yea just shut them down and you do you
We all know MD srsly fucked up this time and the fact that he was kind at first or that he's handsome won't save him from it
You don’t have to be a perfect Dom just to know not to push your sub’s limits, if Chanwoo wasn’t ready to express himself then DONT push his trauma on him and make him do something he didn’t want to do. He wanted to manipulate him into wanting to be with him or either he loses their comfortable sexual companionship to someone who used him. That’s why you need PATIENCE in s/m relationships, you don’t just force someone’s hand on fire to let them know it’s hot. You’re blaming Chanwoo for not wanting a serious relationship with someone just because you feel he should and because he’s not one to use a safe word? You shouldn’t try to FORCE someone to use that, it means you’re making them no longer feel safe. He triggered his sub on purpose, that is not okay. If you support MD then do so but don’t come here trying to justify his actions on MY comment when it’s clear I don’t support it.
They really tried to come on my comment blaming Chanwoo for not really trusting MD like he’s not abuse victim in every relationship he’s in-
Lmao this is why I can't stand some yaoi readers they just have no brains
So he wants to save a minor from being touched by adults, just to fuck him in return- Alright imma head out.
I think it’s just me but I hate ukes who cry “don’t hurt him!” After they been molested by the person they’re protecting, like I’m not sure if they think they’re being brave or generous but letting someone like that go could mean someone’s else demise. I mean yeah, at least now the wolf will get the fruit but it didn’t necessarily have to be him.
Exactly for once i would like to see a uke whos just like "ha i think we should cut off your dick as punishment " like honesty a sadistic uke is nice once in a while
I feel like it's more of him losing so many people in his life and death of someone scares him cause it will be his fault and he feels responsible for his mother's death (tho it's not his fault) he got ptsd of people dying cause of him
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I think since it hasn’t updated in such a long time I forgot that part, that makes sense but in this scenario he was nearly raped, I think I just have a discontent with rapists being free.
I didn’t really like the second couple, felt very dragged out. Usually they do that to make it realistic but this case was very.. frustrating. The seme came off really desperate and horny.
I’m sorry but I want the uke to at least fuck around too, the seme fucks EVERYONE while the uke just blush and twiddle his thumbs. Make this shit even. They’re not a good match AT ALL, but i can’t stop reading.
Yeah its unfair ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
FACTSSSSSSS
I feel like Norman got off too easy, he really didn’t provide much to the story except being a psychopathic ex who fell for anyone who gave him attention and cried majority of the story over a guy who wouldn’t bat a eye if they died, also their love was a bit too senile- to a point Sen didn’t even have common sense so Sword had to think for him. He had no character development if anything he got dumber. Sword went from a homophobic rapist to someone who tried everything to get his partner out of prison because he knew he wanted better for them despite his possessive urges.
And Norman gets a spinoff #－.－)
You’re joking!?
No unfortunately, it's http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/under_grand_hotel_kiss_kill/
I only skimmed though it, it's got all my least faves in it (≧∀≦)
I like swords character development. At least in the end he learned to love Sen. And Sen, tho he became even more stupid as the story progresses, in the end he proved his loyalty and love for sword. So yeah. Not bad. And Sword is hot AF too (ω*)
Wait that tattoo guy on the spin off.. Wasn't him the one who stabbed the norman guy??
You got it, and they are all in the new cross over together. Not sure if you've seen it http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/under_grand_hotel_cross_over/
Oh Normans not in it, I forgot because I like no one in this but Sword and Sen! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
The bitches got married (灬ω灬) WTF Imma personally kill that Eerie bitch if he tried to get in the way （/TДT)/ Let the couple be lovey dovey MF
I’m feeling icky because I know Theia was his lost lover in a way but the fact he wasn’t sure and said he made love to Theia not Rain made me feel — a bit; ugh.
Maybe it’s just me to feel icky, he watches him beat up beasts (which he’s half of) and gets orders to kill halflings, use people for sex then toss them away but he’s still desperate for him. Maybe it’s the beast in him that imprinted or maybe he’s a simp.
It’s romance logic. He lacks all common sense. But he’s smart enough to please a man.
I’m actually surprised how many people agreed with me.
So- it’s not racism but they made two chapters calling him a ‘black ball’, ugly, and disgusting? Colorism IS racism, when you judge based on skin it’s racism. He looked exactly the same except darker skin and beauty marks, so it’s not like a huge change. I enjoyed the story but he could transform into ANYONE else if that’s the case but he changed into a black person- Author may not have intended racism based on ignorance but it’s 2020, its easy to read why blackface and colorism is wrong even though it should be common knowledge not to bash someone for their skin. She’s an damn adult. People excusing Asian countries for their mind set is why they will never understand, they’re a different ethnicity, not a different age.
The author could’ve just had him slap on lots of makeup but no of course he had to colour his face black as well. How disgusting.
I’m Asian but if people keep justifying blackface over and over again with the reason that it’s just the “asian mindset”, it’s making us asians in general look dumb and ignorant. Not all of us think that way. Stop thinking we’re babies or something. People need to stop justifying and start educating.
Exactly!
Exactly the reason why I couldn't continue reading. It was disturbing to see the reactions of the characters to his"disguise"
Totally agree!