Honestly, I never read a story where I hate both the uke and seme since killing stalking. The seme literally is a sociopath who’s obsessed with noncon and wasting my breath on him further would be abysmal. Then the uke constant back and forth is frustrating me. Like if you don’t want to fuck him, then let him fuck those other people, they’re happy to do so.
He constantly says “I don’t want him.. I don’t like the new him” then constantly get jealous. Like either come to terms that the version of him that you loved 10 years ago is gone and stay completely professional or just accept him 100% instead of that dumbass 37%.
They both annoy me, the only person I feel bad for is Hae Yool. He’s literally being assaulted constantly for a company who doesn’t even care whether they can protect him or not. Then he falls for a guy with the blandest personality except for going from drying wall paint and jealousy, then he tries to set his plan in motion by trying to get the manager to follow him which leads to him getting exposed, losing his manager to the guy who exposed him, then when he finally makes a move, his rival sends his psycho sponsor to assault him.
Justice for Hae Yool, it’s like the setting from those transmigration stories when the transmigrator has to do justice for the original body
this this this, everything I'm feeling about this story put into words. I really don't like anything about this story except for the ml's face lol. describing the mc as drying wall paint is the most apt description ever
Why are all the comments so upset? He genuinely loved her in the first life as well, they’re from different time periods and he showed his love differently than her. Back then a husband wasn’t to be too affectionate with his wife or he was seen as a pushover or incompetent. He also was under strict surveillance as he was essentially a slave to the government who were the ones who put them together and they actually had power over him. He couldn’t be as close as he wanted.
Not only did he fall for someone who love language was affirmation and he didn’t understand that his little actions weren’t being understood enough, he also had to balance the fact he was lied to and was in a whole another universe. He went from people pissing in the streets, and horses to get around to telsas and toilets that squirt water on your ass. That’s a lot to balance.
He quite literally died because he blew up from grief of losing her. I can see why she’s upset though, because she doesn’t get to see his POV like we do. I feel they both are bad with communication, he probably would’ve changed if she brought it up the first life and she would be more open to listening (possibly not) if he told her what happened in the first life.
Honestly I still think he is an asshole because how he wouldn’t let her meet her friends and would forcefully drag her back home
Wait so he also dies back in korea when she died? I thought only she died and transmigrated into Irene 's body and met with Ciel of this world and there's another Ciel in korea rn!! This changes some things i understood wrong lol
Real and not even interacting with Seohyeon when they got back home
The world building of this manhwa is honestly very messy. FL died trying to save ML and after ML sees her dead, he dies as well and goes back in time. There was never another Ciel. FL thinks she got transmigrated in a novel she read but actually she hopped dimensions and went back in time and possessed the body of Irene. The thing I am confused about is that why the "og FL" is a c class healer now when she was an S class healer before they went back in time
True. I honestly think this trope of " I ignored you and treated you like shit only to protect you " is a really lame trope. If someone really cares for you but can't show their love for you the love and care they have for you will still slip out in one way or another and it makes no sense that you would go your whole life not realizing that your husband loves you just because you two have two different love languages.
Hahhh so it's a time travel story? How far back did they travel . I got this down I think , If FL seohyeon travelled back to the past but since there was no body of hers to hop into she possessed Irene's body that was already injured the same way Seohyeon did. Plus she got a family out of it so her God must've listened to her prayers. That's why she's only a low class guide now. With more training she can reach s class. Kinda predictable now how story will go...
Ciel & Seohyeon aside what's up with the mobile tasks for the saintess? That's a whole another plot line & theme
Thank you for answering my queries tho
It wasn’t specified how far they travelled. Also I wasn’t talking about the actual FL of the manhwa. I was talking about "og FL" aka saintesss who didn’t posess any body rather hopped to a different dimension.FL mentioned how saintess was a S class guide but wasn’t compatible with ML so she bullied her who was actually compatible but low class. The saintess later on mentions that she loves how she gets royal treatment when she is only a c class guide, I am guessing it could have something to do with the mobile tasks but then again why did she turn it off in this timeline then when the plot hasn’t really changed much from the previous timeline.
Oh yes you're right... I forgot about og Saintess
This is quite messy plot as you said
I agree, but once again. This is a man from the period of where wives weren’t really allowed to do much especially if they felt that it was going to be men around. If he was born in her time period I’d definitely say screw him but considering he was born in a time of men being absolutely horrendous then I say I understand, I don’t agree but I understand.
I don’t think what time period he is from is a valid defence against his shitty actions. Regardless of why he was a total jerk to her it still hurt her and completely isolated her from all her friends and it honestly sucks how the author is romanticizing these shitty behaviours
You’re definitely free to have your opinion, most of the comments agree with you. I’m just not in agreement with those comments to the same extent. He’s definitely not free of criticism but honestly, if their communication would’ve been better, things wouldn’t be as bad. This is my last time replying to you though, I’m not here to change your opinion nor am I changing mine. Have a great day. (⌒▽⌒)
The story is written a bit weird, is like time travel, dimension hopping, and Isekai at the same time. The author was probably trying to tie in all the trendy topics into one and just decided not to clarify it.
By how I see it, there's a big difference between "not be too affectionate" and outright abuse, which is exactly what he did and also, guess what? What he's doing again this time around, just in a different way.
Not being emotionally close is not the same as being a mistreating jerk. Sorry but no excuse for that. If he didn't want to show closeness due to reasons, he could just have left her alone.
It’s comments that agree with you, I’m one of the few that disagree and I’m not changing my opinion on it. Thank you for your input though.
TRUE !! But of course it doesn’t excuse his mean demeanour when he was with fl back in Korea. But he still deserves the second chance as per the priest said on how everyone deserves a fair chances. I’m just hoping that he’ll soon realize that his action back in Korea was hurting fl thus resorting her to be cold to him in this current timeline.
PLEASE HAVE COMMUNICATION CIEL
I’m dropping this, I feel like I understand why the FL isn’t really smart considering her background but it’s getting to be tedious trying to ignore the idiocy. It’s so much stuff that’s literally in her face and she just stares blankly at it then shrugs.
• The princess is in contact with a demon, a demon was trying to kill the baby, maybe tell the duke as soon as possible?
• The baby needed 3 powerful beings, everyone is avoiding eye contact with you when you ask, the baby immediately calls you mom when it can finally speak, you know it calls the duke father because it has his dna, if it was imprinting then the maid would’ve been called mother as well since she was there longer, so clearly it needed your DNA.
Questions I have:
How are they afraid of the baby for not growing for 5 years that was born from a dragon egg yet work for a man who can’t die who’s about 120 years old, constantly see a princess who literally been 20 for 80 years, live amongst literal dragons who have human forms.
I feel like everyone in this story are idiots except the butler, it’s causing so much annoyance.
You know she is aware that he knows the princess' plan?
Rereading, she does not at the time of my comment. She literally said she didn’t have the time to tell him because of how awkward she felt around him.
I do think we have our own perspective. However I do love reading this so I should think I'll answer all og your nonsense questions and explanation
About the princess being the demon, the mc cannot tell the duke, as it will be awkward. How do you think she can explain that? and without a definite or physical evidence and forcing the princess to say the truth would eventually led back to her (mc)
Regarding to the baby telling her as a mommy/ mom....you wold just be pure stupid if you would think a baby telling you mom is your child...I do believe that the duke only callee her mom is because she's the 1st person to show him love and caring.
How is the baby not growing for 5yrs? Are you plain stupeed or just did not read everything like the baby did not grow due to curse you- yep that's why the baby did not grow and the princess being 20 and the duke being like hundred age..like I don't care about them but I do know they won't end up together.
That's all. Though I respect your for dropping this story. As I believed that people has their own point of perspective. (︶︿︶)＝凸
While I love the confidence of calling me stupid while spelling it wrong, numerous times. Let me tell you why you misread what I said.
1. I never asked why the baby didn’t grow, I knew it was due to the curse. My issue was that they had an issue with a baby not growing for 5 years yet work with a guy who’s over 100 years old and hasn’t aged. As well as the princess being around 100 years old as well and them not thinking it was terrifying, my confusion was how was the baby immoral but they’re surrounded by immortals and dragons in every day life.
2. She mentioned that she knew the baby called the Duke father due to his DNA being in his body, if the baby needed 3 strong beings and you already know 2, also knowing he had her body. Common sense would say it’s her.
3. Her entire job was to protect the baby from evil, so no matter how awkward it was she should’ve told him, yet she kept putting it off.
Next time when you’re insulting, spell correctly and actually READ what the OP comment was. Thank you, now Shoo, I have better people to reply to.
Thinking back, considering you love the story and probably self insert with the mc. It makes sense why you can’t understand what I’m saying, she wasn’t the brightest and I assume you can relate. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Yeah she wasn't.....but she was talented and have a kind personality and the story was good y'all just wanted it to end but dude what do you mean I can relate? You sunovabish-
I’ve read over 1000 books with nice and kind MC. I have a lower tolerance for ditzy characters now, since I’ve read stories with intelligent women. If this is your taste? Wonderful, doesn’t make me feel any way about it because I don’t know nor care about you. The story just isn’t my cup of tea.
I think I should clarify a few things
1. The reason y the baby was considered immoral was coz there’s a rumour dat the baby came from the evil dragon egg which is y it’s growing so slowly + every1 knows the reason y ml life is so long is coz he ate the dragon heart & the Princess is coz they think god has blessed her. Also I don’t think they know they’re surrounded by dragons
2. Ye she’s stupid & lack of common sense however from her perspective she does not consider herself 2 be the strongest being. She may considered herself 2 be just as strong as the member of her group & hell may even consider it’s Jamil child since she think ml is in luv with her. Also like burger said I think she think the child called her mother coz the child imprinted on her since she was the 1st 2 show him luv & release the growth stop spell. Kinda like how a child may call a teacher their mum
3. It’s only a speculation not certainty. U can’t assume or give misinformation unless u have actual evidence. Wat if she was actually wrong & led them down a false trail & dis is the imperial family we’re talking bout? (Ofc she’s not wrong but from her perspective she could be) & judging by her behaviour of being reckless & sacrifical ig she didn’t feel the need 2 tell ml since she would fix it herself which is stupid but dats just her personality. Just like how she worry 4 the ml even tho he’s stronger than her. Also if there’s any1 she should tell bout the demon it should be her father rather the ml since he can actually do something 2 get rid of it whereas the ml can’t even sense it
Ok y'all just drop this story. Your making me hate this manwha. So better stop. Just y'all dropped this if your not loving it, clarifying that the mc is stupid, naive, or etc. would be useless if y'all wouldn't continue reading this. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
┑(￣Д ￣)┍ bro wether u hate it or love it we don't care.
Then why comment?
Okay? Again, it’s my opinion. Cry if it hurts your feelings I guess.
They did a clip of showing the diversity of the town and it was literally dragon people, so it’s not uncommon. Once again, my comment was for me to remind myself not to read this again because I get 40 updates on different stories a day, not really to debate. As you can see I don’t enjoy the story because I don’t like dumb FLs, considering she was uneducated in her past life it’s not her fault but its just not my cup of tea to read this type of character.
Stop commenting on my comment if you don’t agree or even if you agree, I honestly don’t care if you don’t like my comment. Thumbs down and move on, tired of getting notifications from brain dead dimwits.
Not u
I commented a long time ago, keep getting notifes but brother here is mad after calling someone stupid
I’m not mad, and yes I called someone stupid after being repeatedly insulted for not liking the mc.
Bro I'm saying user burger is the one throwing the tantrum not u (●'◡'●)ﾉ
I previously replied to this "Ok y'all just drop this story. Your making me hate this manwha. So better stop"
I replied to that line saying idc if u hate it it we gonna still discuss the obvious plot holes
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Oh wow u calling me brain dead dimwit ... ╥﹏╥ meanie
I’m sorry but I’ve always hated the whole “keep predators alive” mentality. Like these are scum people who deserve to die, they were willing to assault you then sell you even after you showed goodwill with helping them then you save their lives. Imagine the amount of women they have probably done that to, prison isn’t enough.
Was good but I’m dropping, this story is unnecessarily adding more drama before we can even settle the first situation. It’s like the more she tries to help, the worst the situation gets and it’s getting tiresome that knowing no matter what she does, it’s screwing things up. Also, Adrian gives me weird vibes and the Duke being possessive over someone who clearly doesn’t like them isn’t helping me want to continue this story.
I’m probably dropping, the story was good but honestly the mansion keeps throwing in bullshit rules last minute. And it seems to only affect Charlotte even though he’s supposed to be their target. Her not helping him leads to her being trapped there again if he dies, her helping him leads to her being tormented. They even introduced 3 psychos in the house who are targeting her more than him, im starting to think she’s the target and he’s a character introduced into the story to distract her.
Do you want spoilers? Because... well... you are quite close to the truth but not completely
Wait I want spoilers!!!
Yes that’s fine, I’m sure I’m not continuing this.
It's normal that it keeps attacking her because her brother is behind this. He is the manager of floors 3 and 4 so he can interfere. She is the child in the diary and this whole mess started because of her and her family but I don't remember the details since I lost interest at that point in the novel. She ran away to another world and forgot about her previous life. But her brother, who refused to let her go, managed to trick her into coming back with the game, it was a trap and not a real game (he did that thanks to the devil I think). The backstory is kinda crazy and I didn't understand everything to be honest, and the story gets less and less interesting once they are outside the mansion. Anyway, inside the mansion Dietrich looks more like a side character but once they are outside it's different, in my opinion.
How much? About what points ? Because there is a lot to say
All the spoilers!
So I was right but it’s more reasoning behind it, do they ever say why the brother was so obsessed with making her suffer? Was it sadism? Pure evil?
That's way too much haha. I don't want to write an essay you know
Well... He was in love with her. Yep. He was mad that she had a relationship with Dietrich (before the mansion, I'm talking about their past) and managed to bring her back to the mansion, from what I remember. She agreed to have a relationship with him more or less, like I remember reading she and her brother kissed once at least. But she ended up running away from him because he is crazy and tried to ruin Dietrich's life or smth. Which did not help his obsession with her apparently. Mind you, she kept telling herself that she was not in love with Dietrich but just wanted to use him to break off her engagement or smth like that, because she thought he had an important position. And before his downfall that was true, but after he was demoted and she got disappointed and was planning to leave him. So she thought she could rely on Johannes to get the same result, which turned out to be a bad idea.
Thank u sm for the spoilers bc yea… this doesn’t seem worth continuing anymore
I mean I'm only talking about the flashbacks, once they are outside they don't encounter Johannes. But I stopped reading around chapter 100 or so, so I don't know about after that. I stopped bc both of them became pretty crazy and I don't like how she treats Dietrich. She even tried to kill him, well it was because of the system but still. She had a quest saying that if she wanted to be able to stay outside the mansion, she had to kill Dietrich and herself or smth like that. I hope the manhwa won't follow the same direction...
This may be a minor addition to the story but I absolutely love that he realized his romantic feelings overshadowed the care his friend actually gave him. His anxious attachment issues are definitely a problem considering he has to feel ESPECIALLY special to feel content with the bonds of people around him, but it takes strength to admit you were wrong about someone for years simply because of your own personal feelings about them.
I’m glad they showed the friend in the extra because it’s refreshing on how they drew this story. Usually in one sided gay love stories pertaining to friends, they typically draw the hetero friend as a villain for not reciprocating or not knowing the other’s feelings. I love they made it clear just because he doesn’t like the uke romantically, he’s still there for him.
Side note: I can’t see this relationship being healthy due to the fact they’re both heavily dependent on the other to fill loneliness (or did, they probably changed off script.)
From all the one sided yaoi manhwas ive read I was genuinely shocked that MCs friend wasnt someone who wanted to ostracize MC from everyone because he was actually in love with him all along and was instead was normal friend whod be worried about their best friend suddenly hanging out with a suspicious person
Yes! I loved that.
So, she knows who did the scheme against her. Constantly getting harassed by them. Yet she prefers to keep running from it? The ML is literally telling her he’ll help put an end to it and she’s running. Like she is only aggressive when it comes to him, I think it’s because she knows he like her so she doesn’t care about the consequences. These people literally stole her idea, cheated, abused, and tried to blacklist her and she does absolutely nothing to defend herself. Also, the wife obsession with her is so weird. Like you knowingly stole her boyfriend and yet you’re mad at her? Confused on how the wife thinks she’s the victim? I’m dropping, not only is everyone draw like side characters and very flat, it’s super boring. The ML carries the humor, the drama, and romance. If the action was watching a wall dry was a person, it’d be the MC.
I knew I would hate the duke and mistress, but the emperor was a surprise. He seemed so nice but I realized it was only extended to his son. So far, the emperor is obsessed with using people to maintain power, the duke wants power and the MC again to terrorize, the mistress is obsessed with money so she hops around with different men?
The art is gorgeous but.. the story is lackluster. Your child is being targeted, tell him that you had his baby so you can be protected. Yet she just keeps going back on it. I feel this gonna be a story that’s 100+ chapters till they find out who baby it is.