I usually skip prologue because normally it only has panels that ill read in chapter 1-5 anyway, but why is there a bonus on this one ? Should i actually read this prologue ?
It says yaoi and shounen ai, which one is it ?
I guess it's a shounen ai...can't get the yaoi vibe from it
Even though TJ is obviously the one at fault for the state of their relationship, Ian is also responsible for enabling TJ to think only of his himself in their relationship. Because for 20 years Ian has let TJ walk all over him.
Regardless of how bad TJ was, Ian didnt do well to maintain their relationship. He simply took all the hits from TJ instead of actually trying to save their relationship
Yeah they both contribute but people only putting the blame on Ian for some reason.
Ian didn’t have a family and was abused his whole life, TJ had the chance to have a family and he fucked it up. Ian following TJ and never leaving his side is annoying, but I don’t blame him when his whole life he has never had anyone besides TJ.
First kiss, first sex, first love. First family. Ian shouldn’t even have to maintain their relationship, and I do think he tried but who’s the one that had left him by himself time to time? It wasn’t Ian. He craved someone by his side, so he would sleep with another whole TJ was away.
It’s TJ that was away. There is still micro blaming Ian here. Even now in the recent chapters, despite how shitty TJ has been, he has tried to make things better but who’s the one wanting to go back to how things were? TJ.
So I will never understand the “regardless of how bad TJ IS” (not was, he still IS), there should never be a regardless, TJ is THE shit and there’s no regards for him.
It’s not Ian’s obligation to save their relationship. A relationship takes two and the one that kept putting a hold on their relationship was not him. It’s all in the story.
Yea and i totally agree on what you are saying.
****Also I used past tense (was instead of is) because the reason behind this situation is from the past 20 years.
But Ian's behavior was toxic for the relationship too. Because he was unhappy and he gave up on his happiness, and thats toxic for the relationship.
If my life is miserable because of my lover but i stay with him for 20 years without putting clear boundaries to ensure my hapiness. Then i am also responsable for my own misery.
That’s true but I don’t believe he gave up. And I don’t get the focus on Ian when the other party made it worse for their relationship. And you mentioned how he didn’t save THEIR relationship. It’s not all on him.
Well he kind of did give up as in he never confronted TJ properly until now and just accepted everything even though it would break him.
My commrnt did focus on Ian because I already thrashed TJ in previous comments and at this point it shouldnt be a debate just how bad he is.
And I did start my comment saying TJ was obviously the one at fault.
Its obviously not Ian's responsibility alone to save their relationship, which is why I said he is ALSO responsible for how bad it got (as in there was someone else responsible aka TJ).
And its not like Ian did anything "bad" in their relationship, but he contributed to the toxicity of the relationship by enabling TJ to act like that without proper consequences.
He did try to talk with TJ. And, it’s not possible for Ian to reach out to someone who closes off and goes away to places. It’s not his job. TJ doesn't do it either, so why the focus on Ian.
No matter what I will always see TJ as the shitty one that doesn’t deserve Ian. It’s not like Ian told him to do those things or put himself in such environment. May I remind you that TJ has had chances to redeem self many times, overly selfish now, and his foster situation which he overlooked.
I think I get your point now, that Ian also just became codependent and let things be, enabling it. I AGREE, don’t get me wrong. However I will never put Ian at the same level as TJ because all this time the one actively trying to label their relationship has been Ian.
It’s not like Ian can do anything to TJ. TJ is the one not listening and walking away. TJ is a grown man, Ian can’t command him. Do you really believe TJ has properly listened to Ian? If he had, TJ wouldn’t be asking to go back to how things were.
And if TJ really cared, he wouldn’t threaten to break his other leg if it could make things go his way (iirc he did threaten Ian with how he will), and it just shows he does not listen. How can Ian change someone like that? That’s expecting too much. That’s like asking an abused victim to stand up to their abuser, and expecting them to be cowardless.
Oh i didnt mean to put Ian at the same level as TJ. That would be wild xD. I honeslty find it annoying and crazy that Ian put up with TJ for 20 years...
And yea, even if Ian did stood his ground and put clear boundaries, TJ might not have listened. But then that would be the moment for Ian to leave, just like he did now.
Standing his ground would either end up with TJ following what Ian wants to do and them having a proper relationship or them breaking up. Either way, Ian wouldnt be in that super toxic relationship anymore.
Does the side story go more into the 2 guys that got hypnotised ?
Nah, it's just the story repeating itself for hopefully the last time
Something I dont understand, didnt Yuta inherit the whole thing ? And the son was completely excluded ?
So how come this guy still treats Yuta like his plaything ? Shoukdnt Yuta have the means to get him killed ? Or just destroy that guy fimancially and socially or whatever?
Even when ukes have all the power, they always still let others abuse them so easily...
I think he’s just biding his time. Yuta’s so used to this kind of abuse and is numb to it now. He’s not an idiot for sure, I think he’s letting the son do his thing and then will break him and ruin his life later. Yuta’s a sneaky rat that will always eat his way to the cheese, no matter what he has to go through(if that makes any sense lol)
The author obviously had a favorite (the older brother) and it was irritating because this is a love triangle... good porn thats it.
Was he smoking at this moment in the novel ? It feels so out of place and feels like it was added to aesthetic...
Yes he did
Ah ok thanks, by the way in the novel did Josh often smoked ? Or smoked at all before this scene ?
I dont recall him smoking in the story so far
I only remember 1 time he did. Before that scene
It's actually odd of Ian to even suggest this. TJ has made it clear that the gang takes priority over Ian and by a long shot.
I mean... did TJ ever consider to leave the gang for Ian ? I cant remember
i dont think its odd, bc he clearly is attached to TJ and wishes he'd be prioritized. but i wonder if he really thinks TJ will accept, or if he's just waiting for a confirmation of disappointment.
he is testing tj and giving them one last chance but i doubt tj would leave with him
You are both probably right but it's really frustrating to see him still giving a chance/hope for their relationship.
And after TJ refuses, is Ian really gonna gjve up for real and move on ? At this point it's difficult to believe that Ian would ever move on from TJ. (Unless TJ decide to stay away on his own)
I can only hope that TJ's refusal would / will be enough for Ian to finally let him go but we'll see!!
I hope we will find out why sangwoo's dad lost interest in penetration after sangwoo's birth.
Also like why is Sangwoo throwing the MC at other alphas... it's kind of odd especially when he was already breaking the MC's mind without all this
The (dead) dad was cheating. It was mentioned in previous flashbacks that was the reason he stopped being interested in the MC.
But here it was mentionned the dead dad never did penetration with MC to begin with. And despite that he still had frequent sexual activity with MC and planning to get married. So that doesnt really add up with what you said unless im missing somethingq