Wait wait wait.....wasnt there a bigger height difference? Am i crazy??
Dude.... Akitora is so annoying... He doesnt even know that his wife is mad and he even ask her "why". Like you cheats on her and become obsessed with that person. And he can't even think that it might upset his wife, let alone feel bad about it.
He says actions speaks louder than words, will his actions are screaming "i dont give a shit about my wife"
Well.....lets be honest...being gay is already the big deal. So why does it matter if its with his step brother?
But if the step brother thing is a big deal, can't the seme just divorce from his mom(idk the word for this)? That way she wont legally be his mom and he wont be step brother with uke.
And like....whos gonna stop them from dating? The parents only came back to announce the marriage then they are leaving......
No one abroad will ever know theit children are dating each other
What's the big deal of being gay?
no big deal, but in Asian culture being gay is being looked down upon and homophobia is real there, as an Asian being gay or lesbian is like looking at death in the face, it's scary.
I get that the one in the wrong is pink hair.
But for his own sake, and for the sake of his relationship, the seme should grow some braincells and take actions to stop this pathetic bitch. The harassment wont stop otherwise, the bitch said so himself he wont stop.
If Tristant was going to just go into the house like that, why did he need to be invited before the assassination???
lol so he could know where Charles lives?
Charles isn't a criminal that is in hiding though, it shouldn't be hard to find where he lives.
The people he works already knew Charles was a vampire but couldnt find his home adress? Come on.
Im pretty sure it was intentionnal and that bothers me even more. I am a bit disappointed they made megumi physically more feminine/less manly because he was the uke...
Ok but why did so many people enter a room where "saying NO is not allowed"???? And they did enter the room and they all let Eno choose what they are gonna do??? Like wtf i would never enter a room like that and especially not in a school where they are all insane and casual about assaults.
A bunch of goddam retarded gang of monkeys without any morals too wtf....
Also, did Kouhei and Eno had sex......it seemed it was implied the first time they went into the secret room but i cant tell for sure
Just because one person is drunk doesnt automatically make it rape...
First of all, Chiwoo got drunk by himself
Second, all the alcohol did was give Chiwoo the confidence and the confusion (he believes its a dream) to do the first move and go with the flow for the rest
He understand whats going on and didn't give any signs that he was against it (we even have access to his thoughts)
Third, it seems very likely that Hwan doesnt even consider Chiwoo might be too drunk to give a proper consent. Because he himself is half asleep and he drank as well.
I believe rape should be called when someone is forcefully or mentally (blackmail / manipulation / intentionally taking advantage of someone who is not in a proper mindset to be able to refuse / fear /...) forcing themselves on someone.
We dont know to what extent Chiwoo is drunk, but I highly doubt he is at a point where rape should be used. And even if it turns out he was dead ass drunk, i believe Hwan isnt trying to take advantage of it.
Chiwoo didn't say anything, aka he didnt ask for it or agreed to it verbally. But he initiated a kiss and didn't give any sign that he wanted to stop. Also, just because you asked at the begining, doesnt mean you have consent for the whole thing. Yet most people arent verbally asking if their partner want to keep going every 5 seconds. Because its common sense that the other person will do something (verbally or physically) if they dont want to do it anymore.
Therefore, after being kissed by Chiwoo, Hwan started to go further, and considered Chiwoo's going with the flow as consent.
No, don'teven think about justifying abuse, please. If one is unable to say No he is also unable to say yes. So there's no consent even if it's someone that you like and sex without consent is rape
you said it yourself, rape is “advantage of someone who is not in a proper mindset to be able to refuse” if being drunk is being in a proper mindset then go drink and drive queen
I totally agree, why people justify rape like wtf I bet chiwoo woke up the next day and didn’t even know he was fucked
exactly like if he knew that that happened we would have known about it waaat earlier in the story because we’ve reading things from chiwoo’s pov..
fact is hwan had sex with chiwoo when he was heavily intoxicated and anyone who tries to defend that is literally saying that taking advantage of a drunk person is okay...
It depends how drunk you are.
As i said in my comment. We dont know how drunk Chiwoo is. But that doesnt really matter because even if he was super drunk, it doesnt seem Hwan was trying to take advantage of that.
Im not justifying, im drawing a line on what i believe should be considered rape. I did say that not giving a verbal consent is possible. But I said as well that you need to be in a proper mindset.
The hard part is drawing the line on what is a proper mindset to be able to give consent. Like if you cant even tell whos fucking you then something is clearly wrong or if you have trouvle moving normally
Im pretty sure he will wake up and thinking it was a dream tbh
Did you even read what I said?
I literally wrote that it seems likely that even if Chiwoo was highly intoxicated, Hwan probably was not aware of it / Hwan drank as well and he is half awake.
And its possible we never knew about it because chiwoo thought it was a dream all along.
We have no way to tell how intoxicsted both are yet.
And that's why i made it clear in my comment that i "believe" that Chiwoo isnt too drunk and Hwan is probably drunk as well.
Meanwhile you just decide to guess and act as if its facts and proceed to insult those who thinks otherwise.
remember that we’re reading things from their POV. we’ve been seeing things from chiwoo’s pov from the beginning so if he remembered this then we would have known this happened ages ago.
like the previous chapter, this is hwan’s flashback; meaning he remembers this happened.
regardless of how drunk hwan “might” be (which is probably not too drunk at all, literally look at his actions he can’t have sex like that if he’s as drunk as y’all are trying to say he is) it’s no excuse to take have sex with someone who’s even more intoxicated.
“meanwhile you just decide to guess and act as if it’s facts and proceed to insult those who thinks otherwise”
you’re doing all the guessing here? you literally guessed in the same reply that you’re accusing me of guessing??????
i’m not trying to look forward into anything so if it ends up a dream or something then that’s whatever but as a reader i’m gonna make commentary of shit by chapter... and the way everything went down in THIS chapter was super rapey and hwan is the devil.
Beflre i start this story, could someome tellme what has the seme done to the uke?
Let's just say... he didn't take responsibility
If u don’t want ur heart broken for a while then confused on how the uke and seme are back together then this isn’t for u. I’ll try telling a summary without spoiling much. The uke gets in heat I belive and the seme takes advantage of that. They end up fighting and then break away but come back. But the uke was prego and the seme didn’t like that and suggested the uke got rid of the child. The uke wanted to keep it so the separated for a while. The seme then popped up into the uke and the child’s life once again and now they are where they are now. I won’t give my opinion on it because it might sway ur mind,but enjoy.
That's not what happened... no one took advantage of anyone, if anything it's the opposite, the one in rut was the seme. everything was consensual from A-Z so if rape and all that sh!t bothers you - this one is safe.
Yeahh I agree everything was consensual..
All the drama comes from the seme misunderstanding everything about the uke's pregnancy, not rape.
Ahh I’m sorry. This is basically what I got from it and how it came off. I also saw other comments like this as well. Thank you though
Ok but how did the seme end up wanting the uke to abort. I think i saw someone saying the seme thought it wasnt his baby....but why did he think that?
The seme saw the uke hanging out with another girl only TWICE and assumed that something was going on between them.
Then the uke found out that he was actually an omega and that he was pregnant.
So he told the seme about his pregnancy BUT the seme was so caught up in his own assumptions that his brain filtered everything out except for the fact that someone was pregnant and that the uke was now a dad.
The seme got mad and told uke to abort bcuz he thought it was the girl who was pregnant and called the baby "A mass of divided cells".
If you want to read when it happens, it starts near the end of chapter 13.
Ugh......that sounds like a very annoying cliché dramatic miscommunication.
And then the uke ran away right? For like 7 years or did i read wrong?
Yup, definitely an overly dramatic miscommunication.
And yes, the uke did run away for 7 years and dropped all communication with the seme
I saw some comment on youtube and i thought this would be BL but i dont see "shounen ai" tag. So does that mean its just bromance like in Free?
Well, Langa does admit he has a crush on Reki i.e. episode 8 of the anime, but the story isn't about their relationship-- it's about skating. While it can be queerbaiting, I think it's alright for there to be a casual LGBT character without it revolving around the story.
Oh ok so Reki doesnt like him back?
From what I've seen, no. He isn't aware.
Rather than bromance, it just has a loooot of subtext so most of the times you have to read between the lines. Reki and Langa act like a couple without even being aware of it.
And in no way, shape or form I can look at the relationship between the antagonist and his secretary and say "Ah yes, very platonic, especially the pet play and the entwined hearts they engraved together on the pool's floor"
Well i agree that it wouldnt look platonic, but that's what happens in many stories with bromance. The teasing is very strong but theres no romance even though it looks like it.
I do agree though that a story doesnt need the "shounen ai" tag for the MCs to be into each other.
But theres always atleast one clear sign that its romance when it is romance. And then theres stuff like Free where its platonic all the way.
Yeah, at its core it's a fun and wholesome story about friendship and skating. But the characters have such genuinely sweet moments that calling them just teasing makes me feel like I'm doing a bit of a disservice to them. Ah but please don't take this the wrong way. It's fine if people only see it as bromance. Like you said, romance isn't the focus at all. But to me it's more of a "you can think what you want and no one will deny it" type of thing.
Well technically the teases is meant for you to ship them. And i bet sometimes the authors think "its for the readers to interpret what they feel for each others". But i dont like these kind of stuff. Just like i dislike open endings. Because i want only the truth said by the author. Anything else that we have to interpret, i dont consider it a part of the story.
And even though drawing hearts normally means love, but in manga life is special
Ah but leaving things up for interpretation is a very common thing in japanese stories. I personally love it and I'm used to it. I guess it's a matter of tastes ^^
It surely is a matter of taste. Stories like No.6, i already knew the ending and because of it i refused to read it. This is the best example of open ending that i dislike.
And for me if the feelings between 2 characters is meant to be left for interpretation, for me it means its not canon aka its not BL. Thats how i will interpret it.
But i have nothing against endings that are like "this isn't the end, but only the beginning" or similar. That, i wont consider open ending as long as all the mysteries / issues that were brought up in the story had a closure
But SK8 did leave me with a "this isn't the end, but only the beginning" kind of feeling. Again, I don't expect the creator to explicitly state "they're in love" in an interview or something. I'm already happy with what I got in the anime. I don't need to see the characters kiss or say "I love you" on screen to know there's more than meets the eye between them. If the creator wants me to read between the lines, no worries, Utsumi, I gotchu. Fiction is meant to be interpreted anyway.
Its just that the way i see it, i believe it is only a tease if theres no explicit sign. Not because im unable to read between the lines, but because that's how i feel mangas are like for romantic relationship in stories that arent about romance.
Like Natsu x Lucy from Fairy Tail. It was very possible they would end up as friends or lovers. There seemed to be signs to point towards lovers based on the values of average people, but characters' values in mangas are often very different, especially on the friendship vs love line.
Maybe I just have different expectations but to me some scenes were pretty close to being explicit lol. And I'm not talking only about Reki and Langa. Imo Adam and Tadashi are the most in your face compared to the rest. Their whole backstory belongs to a classic victorian romance or some old school shounen ai from the 80s lmao
Anyway, if you think it's all just bromance with a lot of teasing, I won't try to change your mind or anything. That's your interpretation and it's fine. I just wanted to share my take on this
I read somewhere that Langa is in fact gay, but I don't think Reiki is gay or see Langa anything else than a good friend!!!
Also, Adam's secretary, I suspect he being interested in Adam, not sure if it is love or obsession, but there something there and how pasive he is frustrates Adam!
In the anime they show how Adam is crazy for Snow (Langa), but I don't feel it is in a romantic way, even though it looks like that, I admit I shipped Adam/Langa at the begining of the anime, but I can see there is no love there!
In fact, I don't see romance there and if there are feelings, those are urequited, in other words, one love the other but the other is not interested or don't see the peeson as a potential love interest!!!
Langa being gay was a fan made in wiki by the Fandom is not canon. Most probably Langa is bi and Renki straight as renki is the cheerful type of person and he consider Langa his friend.
I get worked up by queerbaiting because is a way to sell more. I prefer clean ending too. I don't like authors that let bro romance to go nuts. Make it lgbtq or clear that they are not.. pfff
Sorry for rambling just hate those endings and as someone said about N6 the author said that the characters are not gay but they are not sure if they are straight too... like wtf..
Or the author from mha that is not clearing out that Deku is straight.. is just because they don't want to loose readers
wtf adamxlanga is literally illegal
I totally agree.
the author just confirmed they have feelings for eachother!!!
WHEN AND WHERE?!