BeepBopp's Topics (750)

Maybe it's the time when he got scammed. And yoonseul's way of life before, and how he's into him now.

From what I remember he was trying to cause problems between the first couple but it back fired pretty quickly and was never really addressed again.

he assaulted him sexually. they didn’t go all the way but the seme was pissed

The only thing he did to cause trouble is hook up with the uke though. So he was being mean to his brother but not to the uke. That's why im confused

Assaulted? When? I remember they were making out but that was pretty consensual. Abd the uke went to his house so it was normal to think he'd be up to go all the way. And when he got hit for not listening. I dont think that should be called sexual assault.

My point it, i know he was being a bad person towards his brother. But he wasn't bad towards the 1st uke.

Well regardless of whether you consider what he did sexual assualt or not, if the person you are dating and really like is being mistreated for something they have no control over, would also not care for that person?

But anyways, what I was refering to was the part where he was hit in the nose (technically was self defense honestly) and used that to guilt 1st uke and tried to get some dates or for him to clean the house.

I'm wondering though if I am misunderstanding your og comment, what guy did you mean exactly?

No you understood my comment. Im talking about the 1st uke(the one who punched him) and Yoonseol.

In the punch scene. They were going towards having sex and they were both up for it. Then uke had a flashback of his ex and he said "Wait" "Hold on" then punch. I dont see how thats sexual assault especially because he got punch the panel right after uke said "wait" which makes it look like it was quite fast.

And then using his broken nose to ask for date/cleaning didnt really work ? I dont remember.

Anyway, point is the 1st uke told him "i havent forgotten what you did to me" which sounds weird since that guy didnt do much to him. It's the 1st seme that should be saying this.

Okay just wanna make sure. So going back, their first encounter was when he was hooking up yet hired them to come clean his apt. First uke felt really uncomfortable in that situation and i guess deemed him as a perv. Second encounter the uke had actually said wait beforehand and then said wait stop again. Not to mention he was drunk. I dont think Yoonseol is an awful guy but he wasnt great at first and seeing hin try now is showing a lot of character development.

But i think the first uke is valid for not caring for him. He was creepy to him and he was a dick to his boyfriend.

Oh i totally agree that the 1st uke has good reasons to dislike him. What i find weird is he told Yoonseol "and let's not forget what you did to me in the past" while saying Yoonseol doesnt deserve the boss.

And i think thats weird. Because it doesnt feel like Yoonseol did something horrible to him. But rather to his boyfriend.

Maybe it's going to be a special chapter. I hope so.

The translator said it’s a spin-off, so canon

right!!! too much wasted potential if they don't

I love reversible couples ( ˘ ³˘)

He cant be redeemed hes a rapist, obsessive and a victim blamer. And if I remember correclt its not because he didnt have sex before but because he wasnt having sex in the moment and didnt have his meds or smth

Wow i actually forgot he raped the uke. Awkward......

You are right he isn't redeemable (he will be a bad person no matter what) but since he is going to be endgame anyway i'll feel better if he didnt met other people for the sake of the uke.

But tbh, because this is all just fiction. If he ends up being nice and makes the uke happy, i'll forgive him. He was a trash and I personally would never want to date anyone who act in that way, but somehow the MC wasnt that much hurt by him, the MC didnt suffer much so it makes it easier to forgive. I understand rape is really traumatizing in real life but in most yaoi (like this one) it doesnt give traumas or stuff like that so it makes the act much less horrible. Anyway you dont need to agree about that. It's just fiction and it's all bs and if this happened in real life i would just want him in jail as he deserves to be there.

Btw i believe it wasnt actually said how long it takes for alpha to go in rut due to lack of sex but i think it was said that alpha goes into rut if they didn't release their pheromones (which is done through sex). And I doubt he'd go into a sudden rut just because he was late to have sex one time. So he most likely skipped some (or all) of his hook ups or he did them less frequently.

I did dive into the Spanish translation that’s farther ahead and he at least does to some stuff to get back at Keith. I’ll pop a spoiler below if needed. It gets wild
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If I didn’t read wrong , he stages a mugging to get himself hurt (which I think got out of hand than he planned) to see how much me means to Keith? and
Then makes an effort to seduce Keith and drugs his wine and admits to him being the omega that marked him and that he is going to get rid of their child and then runs away

LMAO i like the MC!!!

The best part of the story so far is when he tried to pay Keith for the sex. And when Keith refused the money, he threw Keith's gift in the garbage. That was gold.

Atleast the MC isnt the usual uke blinded by love.
Like the only reason this story is still good is because the uke is not just accepting all the seme's bs.

It’s because it’s Korea. Western countries are more open to gay men but conservative countries, not so much.

Yea but homophobia has nothing to do with believing groundless rumors.

And sure Korea is not as open to gay men. But i believe at the workplace, people would mainly talk behind the back the gay men. I doubt they'd openly harass them. Atleast not at the workplace.

I mean...i cant tell because idk how korea is but if your social image is as important as shown, then it's pretty dumb people can bully at work. That's not really a good image to have...

No like that’s literally how korean workplaces used to be. Literally

Not sure anymore if that’s the case nowadays but that definitely used to be a thing around 2013. Another big issue about Korean work environment is the age hierarchy especially during company drinking parties, older = better.

So you are saying that back then, people in Korea would just believe any rumors? Because as long as the person itself doesnt expose themself as gay. It's hard to prove they are gay. So people in Korea just blindly believed rumors?
Then as i said earlier, can't I just spread rumors that x man is gay. Will people believe me without seeing it for themselves? The truth is he is straight but i hate him so i spread false rumors. That sounds quite easy.

And harrasement was accepted at workplace?? They dont care that their employee are creating chaos environnement instead of working? I thought the competition for jobs was quite high so shouldn't they get rid of anyone who isnt being professional? I mean if the boss is homophobic, shouldn't he just fire any gay people right away ?

And idk like i get it that being homophobic was normal but doesn't it look bad to be harassing someone ? Or did koreans back then thought that 30 years old men harassing others is totally okay ? I am not saying people would try to stop the harassment, since homophobia is normal for them. But i believe most people would rather not do it themself because it's not something that would benefit their reputation / image.

Honestly I’ve never worked in korea but I see this type of pettiness in US offices and “professional” environments. not all, but it is not uncommon and it is very annoying.

Even though gays are becoming more accepted, there is still a lot of homophobia, general discomfort, or ridiculous gossip anyway (gay or not). I wouldn’t say this is a specific to korea issue. It’s moreso a people lack morality and will jump on any bandwagon issue just so that they aren’t the one being bullied.

Even being a bystander is still a big issue today because a lot of people think “better them than me.”

Again, not everywhere (or everyone) is like this, but a lot of yoai pettiness draws on real world pettiness.

Yep. In Korea your image is everything, even now. The smallest most baseless rumors people would believe right away rather than find the truth because they don’t want to be involved with the person in question (it’s easier for them to believe than get involved because they might get caught up in the rumor as well). Grown adults yes, I’d say that was probably one of the reasons why the suicide rate is so high in Korea.

Well there is a difference between being petty / gossiping and straight up harassing such as throwing coffee on purpose.

But the part that i dont understamd is that people are bullying based on rumors that they are groundless. And in.most yaois, it's not just one person. It's the whole.school/workplace that believe the rumors and starts bullying.

And i literally cant understamd how thats possible

I dont understand how it is possible that people would just believe on groundless rumors and act strongly about it.

You can easily ruin anyone's life with a lie. Anyone can be the victim.and anyone can be the culprit. You just gotta spread a false rumor.

That's the part that i literally cant begin to.understand.

Totally agree! Me neither, I don’t understand that behavior or thoughts but that’s what happens when you live in a country where image is your everything.

Well I hope that it's not the same.anymore and i dont think its a good idea to use such culture in a manga only for the drama.