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No he’s drunk and thinks it’s inhun but it turns out it’s the flipping boss the guy who lives the paintings (forgot the name) and he’s the one fucking out precious little uke

Loves*

It was Inhun. He is angry and can't sleep 'cos now he knows the real reason why Yoon gonna promote him.

Oooh but am i blind or did he look like Yoon? XD

So basically : he killed children but he looks like my childhood crush???

Basic shitty plot

Nope, just look at him. He declares not to be controlled by vampire daddy but while doing so positions himself on top of him WHILE still having a D inside him, so yeah..he’s enjoying that sinful shit

Um... How do you got in that conclusion? It's pretty explicit that the vampire is obviously playing mental games and manipulating the priest, you are making It sound like It was the priest who started and seeked for the sex. Altough the priest is feeling good, it doesn't mean he agree with the situation (he kept saying that he won't never replace Saliou), and it's not like he had a choice. Or he bangs with the vampire, or he bangs with the vampire. He literally don't have nothing to stop the vampire, and maybe could even get killed or injured If he tried to get away from him. It's a fucking vampire versus a simple Mere human who has O acknowledge about monsters or magic, what were you expecting boi? Obvisouly the human tends tô succumb to the feelings and pleasure.
Seringa you, misunterstanding the plot and resuming it in a "Basic shitty plot" made a little pissed, because this history is Very promising, and How the events are ocurring It show just the crontrary from what you are saying.
Peace.

My point is the priest isn’t trying to stop his sexual relationship with the vampire even though he just learned the vampire killed children. The priest isn’t being forced to do anything. At least he isn’t falling in love, BUT he is still enjoying his time with a children’s killer.

Rather than shitty plot, i guess i could go for shitty MC but it makes everything go down.

I completely agree. Idc about the plot but this MC is trash. Like c'mon, he says he wants to stop, then he doesn't even try to change his behaviour and just rides the vampire's dick. I get it, he likes to bang, and that's probably what the manga is all about: a trashy bitchy priest who discovers the power of dick and enjoys it. The end

Especially since he became a priest to redeeem himself (felt guilty about his friend’s death) and yet he dont care to have sex with this murderer...

You say the vampire is playing mental games, but all he did was propose sex and saying he wants to dominate the priest. You say the priest dont have a choice? The priest initiated a blowjob, came to the vampire’s mansion (knowing what would happen) and couldn’t say no to the vampire when they had sex next to the tree, the vampire even said: if you tell me to stop, i’ll stop and wont come back. The priest couldn’t say no because he wants the sex. And now we see that he wants the sex to the point of not caring about killed children

Pls, he just wants to feel better about himself. I bet he doesn't even care about children since now he can fuck whenever he wants. I disliked this manga since the beginning but I gave it a chance and all I saw was these fuckers banging almost every chapter. Since trash goes together I suppose they are the perfect couple, but I'm calling myself out. I'm dropping

Honestly, if the art wasn’t good, and theres a nice plot with the supernatural. But we have the stereotypical uke that is just shitty. He just makes no sense. (At the tree sec scene) he asked for help from Domingo, like wtf you could just say no to the vampire yourself, you weren’t threatened. Anyway, ill read for the smut, like im
doing for down and dirty

I feel like it more represents the temptation of sin - what else could be expected in a webcomic about a gay priest? Next thing we know, Gabriel's gonna get laicized.

Temptation isn’t an excuse for the tree scene, it was just absurd. Also Gabriel was acting like the children were important to him (they had deadly disease and i think they were all in a coma so for me its not a big deal) but then he still go and have sex. I mean i dont care if he wants sex, but it really feel that at this point hus sex life is more important than his morales, and that just makes the chharacter even more annoying than he already was.

I totally agree with everything you've said so far.

no this one is really complex in its story line

By complex, do you mean that
the MCs will do stuff such as : i dont think he really love me / he deserves a better life / i want to escape then one of the MC running away,
or do you mean complex because it’s a plot that makes drama outside of their relationship, such as being a vampire/job/school/etc...

Well, it's complex couse it's way beyond romance. It starts with the tipical "friend love his best friend, but can't say it, cause it will ruin ther friendship. but something happens and they realise that they have feelings for each other and start dating". But then, the author start adding more characters and more plots, such as familly, character development, relationships of diferent kinds, trust issues, traumas, friendship, and love as something real beyond just the kiss and sex shit, but the trust, the suport, the helpping, and all of that. The more the story goes the more the autor bring development and a really nice plot and art, so it's a wonderful read, i really recommend. It does't have little love games, love triangle, or all of the cliche themes that yaoi has, its more than that. The uke it's independent, has guts and breaks that "innocent and depended uke" vibe and it's very strong and fights for his rights as a human, facing the vampires.

Ok great, because most yaois relies around these 3 words : stupidity/anxiousness/rape. Super stupid character thats assumes the worst when his BF says hi to a random girl and then rabdom men sexually harrass the uke is basically the core to the yaoi genre.

Stuff about trust issues is also annoying but as long as it doesnt go overboard it’s all good, its just that author nornally makes everything way too extra but i think this one isnot going to be baseless drama.

Tbh right now it's all about vampire politics lol.

Wow your comment made me realize that there's never been a rape scene in this one Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

Yep! And before anyone says anything, Gunchan consented to the sex/assimilation with the CEO.ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ Proof: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/dalkomhan_namja/mf/ibx_chapter-55/pg-3/

Nah, Gunchan said that the first bite wasn't consensual so assimilation could've been used going forward...i mean i know he is immune to domination but i'm not sure about assimilation which uses their blood link

The bite for both the main pairing AND the side pairing was not consensual.

But the sex/assimilation WAS consensual. He doesn't get hypnotized by it. He was fully capable of controlling himself. He had punched/kicked the guy before.

That room was flooded with assimilation but he was capable of standing and retorting back. Even vampires couldn't take the father's aura. Why is it so hard for people to believe that Gunchan was fine with it? He's like the chillest motherfucker in the comic.

He didn't think, "I couldn't stop because something was compelling me." He said he didn't want to because it seemed fun. I swear to god I can write an essay.

DUDE. The reason why the father can't do anything but to ask Gunchan and to win his his favor by doing shit is because he's not capable of controlling him. That's basically how it is with them. Unlike Minhoon and Hyungwoo, you see them blushing and dizzy whenever they do assimilation. You barely see any of that with the side pairing.

(ง'-')ง I can and will provide links to pages to properly source and back me up......

Assimilation only works on your kin. You're taljing about domination...it's a different power

He bit minhoon by accident though?

Yeah i agree he was fine with the sex

the thing is none of it was consensual. The author has chosen to make Guchan so unrealistically indifferent to everything regarding the circumstances he's currently facing that it's dubious consent at the most even regarding the sex. I understand he's supposedly getting source material to write with in exchange, but because of he was initially forced to concede to the situation, he's more or less just making the most of a s shitty situation. On both occasions he was assaulted before sex occurred. He's had violence used on him multiple times at this point from the father vampire, and in order to maintain his 'casual' characterizations he's consented to things to smooth things over. I understand why the author has done this but in no way is this a realistic 'consensual' sexual relationship when he cannot exactly walk away from things now that he's literally being held captive by a vampire's desires.

it's really Gunchan's self preservation has decided to make the most of things, which I can appreciate but does not make me love his relationship between him and the father because it is ultimately an equal power dynamic that is yet again romanticized.

I didnt read the comic, but if the uke is happy with it, then for me it’s okay, and if the uke is alwtas sad/depressed then the relationship ain’t good. The goal of all relationship is to be happy so thats what matters the most.

he's not happy but he's also not sad. He's apathetic to it all. And the goal of a relationship does not have to in fact be a goal towards happiness, that would be naive especially given the plot. Realistically it's unrealistic how Gunchan truly doesn't mind his situation. But based on the characterization his behavior aligns with this extremely not common place situation.

sorry *unequal* power dynamic ^^^

I've seen you around before and I know you get touchy about the subject of consent. I honestly don't want to argue about it with you because I know it's going to be like arguing with a brick wall lol I know it's going to be a huge headache.

Gunchan isn't in a reluctant, dubious consensual relationship. He discussed it with the head. After the bite, the father told him to work under him but Gunchan decided to bargain.

Father: You want me to work on getting your attention? To say such a thing when your life is at stake.
Gunchan: There's also no guarantee that I'd live even if I do as you say.. So then wouldn't I need to do this at least to make it even?
Father: Very well. I'll let you have your way. You're the first human I've seen unaffected by domination or scent. But as I'll need to teach you about your physical reactions myself-- I will need your permission, Mr. Writer. Would you like to try it?
- Chapter 55, page 1

Hence, the sex/assimilation scene. There is no "he cannot exactly walk away from things now that he's literally being held captive by a vampire's desires". Gunchan was the one who proposed it. They are playing a game.

Look, the first bite that made him kin was against his will, but the rest that followed were purely consensual (ch58, pg 2) as mentioned above. The part where he said he couldn't stop cuz it looked like fun (ch 55, pg3) is him agreeing. Apart from the beginning of the kidnapping (where he had to get knocked out to be kidnapped) the total times they got physically violent were a total of two: Gunchan punched papa for that surprise bite (ch50, pg 5), Father choked him and Gunchan kicked him in the stomach to make him let go (ch76, pg4). There was a scene at the hotel part where he held Gunchan by the neck but no one actually got hurt.

The rest were civil conversations and the agreed mind games. During the time where Gunchan had to recover from the bullet wound Edric gave him, the father didn't visit apart from the first day. You know why? Because Gunchan pointed out that all of these (the paid hospital room, special treatment) was him trying to woo/get in Gunchan's good side. Edric and Chief mentioned how soft the father was because of him (ch70 pg6-7). Even when he wasn't there to watch over him though, he'd ask Edric for reports to check on Gunchan's health.

What about the hotel scene? Gunchan didn't mind the service. It's luxurious for a hostage (ch 54, pg6). Did the father come in repeatedly for assimilation sessions? It was never mentioned at all. Father being in a good mood after the visit with Gunchan at the hotel (ch56, pg2) might've been a hint though.

Now that choke that people seems to focus on every time. It's because of this people seem to misinterpret their relationship as violent and/or abusive... It's the meaning behind the actions they've done that's important. For example, we've got chief punching Edric when he does something stupid, just as Minhoon had smacked Hyungwoo when he went out of line.

For our side pairing--Gunchan knew the father would react violently but he provoked him anyway so he could get the answer he wanted (ch77, pg4). Whether or not the dad was fully in his mind is debate itself. One could argue that it was a knee jerk reaction. It took him a while to snap out of what he had been doing. I do agree the 'sex' afterwards came out of nowhere though. It looked like a weird mix of sexual tension in need of release from both sides. Gunchan had been anticipating the Father's return at that point.

It's been revealed that they both knew (emotions shared through kinship) that the father never really planned on killing Gunchan. Honestly, the 'mind games' aren't even that serious anymore. Gunchan's like 90% sure the dad loves him. Gunchan had deduced earlier on that the father's been wooing his ass for a while now(ch60 pg 5 and ch67 pg6), even finding it amusing that the father's doing a lot to get him to stay (ch72, pg4).

That part where Gunchan started talking about how he wanted to hear about the father's story (ch 83 pg 15), 'all for the script ofc'-- my interpretation of it is that the father's pretty frustrated since he obviously likes Gunchan but for the latter, Gunchan seemingly wants his curiosity satiated. Right now, Gunchan's just watching things unfold since he was asked by Minhoon to put his trust on him.

Whether or not it was an accident-- Minhoon did not agree to the bite. :( It's still non-consensual, just not in the same way as Gunchan and the father. He didn't want the bite, but in the end, just like Gunchan, he had to make do with the situation he's in and accepted things.

Yeah, got confused for a sec... lol. Anyway, Gunchan wanted to try it out. Father asked for permission as a way to get the other's attention (what Gunchan proposed because he wanted to think about 'working for the father', he was given a choice). The assimilation scene was consensual.

He could've forced himself on Gunchan with his heccin' power but he agreed to play the game so they're doing this overly complicated tango. These things are still up to debate though. We're going to hear Gunchan's actual thoughts like in 2 chapters?? Judging from the RAWs anyway. Ch 100 is the confession from Gunchan.

Gunchan’s more amused than apathetic tbh. He’s brimming with curiosity. It was an emotion the father had mentioned that was coming from him. His apathy towards the gunshot wound was the unrealistic one. He’s been intrigued by the father even before the kidnapping (ch 30).

You do realize that’s the whole point. Gunchan was made kin against his will and what has followed suite is Gunchan making the most of the situation out of said curiosity. I never said Gunchan didn’t consent, I’m saying he consented under circumstances that already made his situation limited on his part to do anything but accept. That is dubious consent. He could consent to engage in sex but he couldn’t resist his new formed relationship with the father or all the things which followed. I personally don’t find it believable but that’s a difference of opinion not what the work presents as fact.


The father giving him that “choice” is not really a choice when the deed has already been done. If Gunchan thinks what will transpire will be “fun” that’s fine if he hadn’t already been kidnapped and been forced to turn into a kin looming over his head. What exactly is Gunchan suppose to say? No? And risk further physical repercussions? Gunchan is smart, he would never pick a choice that would impact his self preservation. Are you telling me he would have made the same arrangement if he hadn’t already been kidnapped and made into a vampire’s sole blood bank? That he finds that his two best friends are also involved in this game of mental chess as well means he can’t escape entirely unscathed and resume his normal life. Gunchan works because the author has given him the personality that he is rational and apathetic to EVERYTHING.


Gunchan doesn’t react to anything immediately he weighs the pros and cons and makes his decision through rational analysis. It’s why for instance why he has no problem telling Minhoon to break up with Kim Hyundai Woo despite their decade long friendship. Realistically Gunchan would not be so causal about the situation as we saw directly how Minhoon reacted for example. Or even how their last friend in group found out his three friends were mixed up in. Minhoon had at least more time to process things for days, weeks compared to Gunchan’s single day that progressed as quickly as it. Gunchan is Minhoon’s direct foil. Both were turned into kin against their will. Minhoon reacted in a way most would upon the discovery vampires are actually real, hesitant unsure and scared. Gunchan doesn’t have that type of personality or feelings towards the situation. All of your evidence is there but it’s a moot point to say Gunchan’s relationship with the father is consensual when their relationship is a game as you’ve said which Gunchan is the loser if it costs him his life if doesn’t handle things just right. I can appreciate Gunchan’s characterization and if he wants to engage in this current game of wills that is consensual as you’ve stated because to some extent yes he’s agreed to it. However the circumstances surrounding his introduction to this world is in fact dubious consent none the less.

Man, I knew the moment I'd come back you'd have a long reply that'll heavily disagree with me. Y'know, when you said "the thing is none of it was consensual" earlier-- I read that as "it's non-con". Now it's dubious consent, huh?

"The father giving him that “choice” is not really a choice when the deed has already been done. If Gunchan thinks what will transpire will be “fun” that’s fine if he hadn’t already been kidnapped and been forced to turn into a kin looming over his head." Really? You're gonna nitpick this? Yeah, we all know he was basically forced into this situation and he's making the most out of things, but that's besides the point because it's still consensual.

You seem to interpret it as merely as an illusion of choice. That's just you thinking the lowest of the father. He's decent enough to keep his word with Minhoon's proposal, he's doing the same for Gunchan too. That's why he asked for permission. Besides, the whole point of the game is to win Gunchan's favor. The Father is smart enough not to force anything to someone as strong minded as Gunchan. How is the he going to win any favor if he's going to do the opposite of what Gunchan wants?

Everything else apart from the whole hotel kidnapping bite scenario is consensual. I said this already. We seem to agree the beginning scenario was non-con and yet you managed to make it an argument, what the hell?

Honestly, you just seem frustrated by how unnatural he seems to react and how "realistically Gunchan wouldn't be so casual"-- no, that's just how you want him to act. The author wrote him this way. What we see is what we get. That's how he is.

Minhoon and Gunchan's circumstances are pretty similar. They were both given the bite against their will. They both had time to think about it. He was given more than a few days to process things. Gunchan said it himself, "I would like to postpone. You expect a person to agree to cooperate if you just drag them here and tell them to?" He's not going in blindly without knowing things.

He used the remainder of his time during the hotel kidnapping to stew on things. (CH 54 "I've given new gowns each day" < meaning it's been days since he's been on lockdown). He was visited by Edric so he could get a better idea of the whole vampire situation. Gunchan was the one to point out a lot of things that the vampires failed to comprehend about the bond between a kin and vampire. He didn't even stay that long since he was rescued by Minhoon and the rest.

I agree that the bite wasn’t consensual, but Gunchan was intrigued by the father even before he knew about the vampires and was bitten. After he was told about the vampires, Gunchan offered to help. I got the feeling that his offer of help was mostly due to wanting to help his friend but was also because the whole situation intrigued him especially the father (I got the feeling he was slightly disappointed that the father was the “bad guy”).

I don’t believe that Gunchan is just making the most of a bad situation. Gunchan has a curiosity that could get him killed someday and the combined intelligence that can make him a born manipulator. He is the type of guy that would push other people’s buttons just to see if their reactions match his theory of how they would respond. Giving the impression of being cold and detached from the situation like a silent observer and father vampire is the most interesting person he ever met with a few lifetimes worth of experiences. I think if he could, Gunchan would pick through father vampires experiences with a fine tooth comb not leaving a single thing unexplored. Gunchan can’t be controlled by dominance so given the chance he could just walk away (and he was given the chance when he was rescued). Yes, he got shot and ended up back in father vampire hand but he also knows that all he really needs to do is tell his friends he wants out and they will make it happen (keep in mind that Gunchan knows that one of his best friends is also the most likely able to defeat father vampire). But why would he want to leave when he is exactly where he wants to be with a front row seat to the most interesting drama. What author wouldn’t want to live in the world they create and watch there characters take on a life of there own. He is also in a key position to subtly influence both the antagonist and protagonist into the direction he wants them to go. It could be the ultimate puppet masters delight. Lucky Gunchan is more interested in watching the drama unfold with little guidance.

Oooh! Couldn't have said it better myself! :D

The MC talked about how disgusting he felt about his body when he remembered the antagonist’s touch... so I would assume they already have sex

Nope, they broke up because the MC didnt want sex. And he felt disgusting for liking to be touched by someone who only wanted his body.

I was confused by that too. The one guy in the shop collapsed or something and said he could never be bonded again? In this version is there like a binding reversal surgery??

in some versions alphas can reject or "take back" the bond. There's always variations

Oh yea omegaverse rules are very loose. But many people in the comments says stuff like *at least the bond isn’t permanent* or stuff like that. But i didnt see where the author explained any rules about the bonding where it could be taken out.