
Honestly I agree with everyone who said WHO DA FUCK CARES THAT THEY ARE A COUPLE?! Like honestly, that literally has NOTHING to do with this situation. HE ALMOST HAD SOMEONE RAPED!!! Does he not realize how serious that situation is? Like I don't care about his lover or his situation, RAPE is never the answer nor should it ever be forgiven. KICK HIS ASS AZUSA!!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I only cared about three couples and one of them is GONE!! ╥﹏╥
But lets hear what bullshit excuse they are about to present to get me to give even a miniature shit about this new couple. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

I would really and truly love for this to be a story where the alpha and omega "destined loved" gets proven to be false and the beta and omega get together and prove that LOVE is not something as simple as "instinct"!!
HOWEVER... That emotion has changed as I have continued to dislike the omega more and more. I LOVE THE BETA HE IS THE FREAKING BEST!! And therefore he deserves better than this omega. This omega is indecisive and weak willed. I know that an omegas "nature" is strong, BUT I cannot find it in myself to defend him because I do not see any part of him that has even tried to go against his "nature" (I am NOT saying that that is easy, but it is possible and he could at least TRY). He hasn't tried to deny the alpha or even decide what he wants. He just let what is "instinct" take over let someone else decide his fate. Therefore I think that he should continue to let what others say run his life and be miserable! And the beta can find someone else, someone better, and someone with their own free will who can make a decision for themselves.

maybe it's just how I perceived it, but Tamaki seems to love Fuji. But he had his whole life having it jammed down their throats about
Alpha and omega pairs", "Destiny", "Blah, blah, blah".
And as Fuji confessed and these two hooked up, he seemed to be leaning in his direction. Even the whole entire time the Alpha took him the first time, all he could think was "No. I don't want this. stop. why is my body reacting like this". His instincts did it, his own self, didn't.
And more than himself being hurt, hearing about the pair being broken, and the pain it caused the omega lady and her beta lover. I think he doesn't want to cause Fuji that kind of pain more than anything.
(even if you don't like it, you still have to immerse yourself in the rules of omegaverse, and how things are seen in their world.)

I understand what you are saying, but I do see the situation in a different light. In the situation of the parents, the mother made her choice to leave her husband for the alpha, and then proceed to break off the pair. Therefore I believe that if he thinks that being with Fuji will hurt him, it proves that he believes he will eventually leave him for an alpha and I then believe that he should tell Fuji no and go be with the alpha. He has choices and he is making selfish ones. I think if he has so many doubts he should set Fuji free, instead of dragging him along with his indecision.
That is what I believe, but I guess the rules of the omegaverse to me are that their sex drive is strong and some what painful, but that doesn't mean you can't fight it. In my opinion it is just a matter of self control. Alpha's that don't control themselves because of an omegas heat are rapist because they have the choice to attack, or get out of the situation, and choose to attack. I think that is not because they can't control themselves, but instead that society has told them that they don't have to and don't have the ability to. But in fact they do because humans pride ourselves on having higher intelligence than other species and self control is a part of that.
Of course I do not know is this is the case or not, however that is just how I see it. That is why I do not like the omega or the alpha (they both refuse to even attempt self-control or think about anyone but themselves) and think that they should be together and the beta should be with someone else.

for the into their world, I mean more the building blocks of life. no one would encourage a beta with an omega. then you have the troubles when you are in heat and fight that. same as alphas have to resist. then you have soul bonds that you cant deny. then the whole trouble of if you are already bitten, and complications if it's not with someone you love. It's the, would you be confident as that omega, that not even your fated mate would tempt you? Or no accidental rapes will occur in the future if you pick a beta? Because being with an alpha stops that threat, and normally calms their heat to some extent.
We are watching the common fight in his head of, he is in love with Fuji, but as an omega with his fated mate around, he feels like he owes it to see what might be there.
Fuji loves him, and he would never walk away with a half assed answer. Not when he sees the struggle the man he loves is dealing with. Even Fuji up until a few chapters ago was prepared to let him go to an alpha, because the natural thinking of alpha and omega.
(I feel like everyone is In too much of a hurry to get to the end. i'm enjoying the struggle and curious to see if he will go to Fuji. yes, i'm rooting for them. their love is fucking obvious from the day they met. )

And that is what makes me so sad. All of those fears because omegas are supposed to be with alphas, even if they don't love them. That there are twice as many alphas as there are omegas statistically, but sill omegas are supposed to only be with alphas. And to say that he loves Fuji I understand, but it's not strong enough. Because of the way this society is, his fears are valid and understandable, who wouldn't want security and for their heat to be reduced? That's all omegas want and I understand that, and so I think he should just be with his "fated mate" because he could never love Fuji enough. For an omega and a beta to be together in this society, their love has to be stronger than any "destiny" that could come walking around the corner, and they don't have that. He doesn't love him like that, and so they shouldn't be together because of these doubts. He doesn't love him enough for everything else to not matter. What I want to see is a love where yes, this will be hard, our love will face adversity at every turn, we will struggle and fight and suffer... but its ok. Its ok because I love you and you love me and we will get through this together. That's what I wanted to see, and that's why I don't want them together. He couldn't feel that way because he doesn't love him, not like he would need to love him in this world.
I really do appreciate seeing this from your point of view as well. I completely understand wanting to ride the ride and see where this goes. To watch them grow and develop as a couple is completely valid...but this ride has become a bit painful for my heart. ╥﹏╥ Watching the "tear jerking backstory of our little alpha" has just made me want more for Fuji to find someone else, because this omega is not built for this. He worked so hard in his life, pretending to be an alpha to prove society wrong about omegas, working hard in school and raising in his courpate career! It was amazing and I was so proud of him. It was building to be the best omegaverse story I ever read. And it all came crumbling down because his "destiny" appeared. I couldn't understand why someone who worked so hard wouldn't want to continue to make his own destiny, to find real love. Sorry this became so long, but I was really happy to have this conversation!

I appreciate seeing both sides too. and an actual level headed discussion.
I agree, it takes a lot. a lot of drive. and their world is very sad logic.
I feel bad, because you know, he was so calm around Fuji. and it wasn't just because he was a beta. it was that he trusts him. I love all the flashback moments. And his heat made him think "I don't care who". and the second Fuji hugged him, he took it right back. And calmed down. and that his collar had the password, of his birthday, after Fuji bought it for him. that one gets me right in the fucking heart. and the chapter where they first had sex, you can tell he actually wanted to.
And it equally breaks my heart, that both of them were prepared to let go at any time his fated alpha came in. But I love that the second Fuji saw his true colors, just walked back in like "Forfeit? Bitch, he will be mine".
I'm hoping with another ten/twenty chapters, we'll see him walk away from Alpha boy and make his way to Fuji. If he can get himself to walk away from his mate, I think that will serve as his proof.
(remind me if i'm wrong, isn't the omegas mother also in a hospital?)

I completely agree. Some people get so passionate and don't listen to others and the conversations just become... uncomfortable. So thank you for sharing your thoughts, and thank you even more for listening!!
I think the author did a really good job because of debates like these only happen with good stories. I won't lie the collar and the high school memories, they all made me root for them, with my heart and soul I wanted them to love each other, I wanted real love. Not some hormonal imbalance that ruins the definition of true romance. This story really makes me feel some type of way about all those "destined love alpha-omega" stories that I've read up until this point. I mean he had lived his life so well!! So not the "typical omega". And the alpha is such a bad man!! He is so cruel and such a jackass!! UGHH OUR BETA IS SUCH AN AWESOME MAN!! I won't lie, part of what makes the beta so amazing is the fact that when he found out that the omegas "destined-mate" was a jackass he decided he would fight for him. Even though he is only a beta and the other an alpha. I hold so much respect for that. If only then and there the omega choose Fuji. If when he confessed our omega he made the choice to be with him, omg I would have swooned so hard!!
(And no I do not recall the omegas mother being in the hospital.)

I think they did an amazing job too. I agree, Fuji being all alpha to the alpha had me swooning. We can agree we all love him and think the seme is a jackass. I pulled a Fuji, thinking "maybe the alpha isn't so bad", saw his true colors and was like "You, sir. bag of dicks, cannot have my marshmallow". I also love that when they were kids and he said he was glad he was a Beta, Fuji agreed and started to like himself. like, why you two like to play with my heart?
I think I am still scarred from Romantic Joutou. Fuck, I got so scared they were going to go the same route at one point. like, anything but that.
(I would FUCKING love to see the alpha's face if he ever learned the pass code is Fuji's birthday.hahaha, i'm evil)

OMG I was so scared that he would really kill his BEST FRIEND TO GET HIS DICK WET?! OHHH that would have been unforgivable like so freaking bad, I almost cried. My heart was beating so hard it hurt. Shit this rabbit scares me more than any Titan!!!
I don't like him. He is gluttonous. Its one thing to eat, its another to kill for your own selfish satisfaction. ╥﹏╥

I'm a little sad to see how much everyone hates Natsuo. But i get it I might feel the same if I actually was rooting for the main couple... which I am not. I am sorry that I can't love them like everyone else though. :(
Please don't be too mean to me.

It's not only about rooting for the main couple. Are you that blind? It's TOTALLY annoying how you think people hate on him SIMPLY because they like the main couple. So NO, you DON'T get it.
The guy is obviously trying something eventhough he knows they are a couple. What kind of person does that? Don't try to blame the fact that people hate him simply because they like the main couple. A bad person is a bad person. I would hate him simply for his character in trying to ruin a person's r/s because of HIS OWN SELFISH feelings.
YOU'RE the one who likes Natsuo thus can't like the main couple. Please look in the mirror.

What are you saying is that you don't like the main couple? like why? It's ok your opinion i'm just curious... I understand what Natsuo feels, it's horrible to be in that position & it's not like I hate him but, why destroy the happiness of two people just for your own happiness that's pretty selfish, even if he managed to separate them Kouske won't return his feeling to Natsuo because he loves Setagawa & sooner or later he will discover what Natsuo did. (If something like that will happen)
╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

I completly understands it seems weird right? I'm definitely weird lol. But 99% of the time when I start something I will finish it even if I don't like it because to me the authors and translators and all other parties put in a lot of work and I want to see through their hard work til the end. I just can't bring myself to not finish, it feels disrespectful to me.

I do apologize but I do not understand what you mean. My feelings towards the main couple could not possibly have ANYTHING to do with a character that developed much later in the story.
Unless I misunderstood and you are just calling me a bad person being the one who "likes Natsuo", and apparently am annoying and misunderstanding other peoples emotions because you clearly understand mine. If that is the case I don't really know what to say because it hurts to be told to look in the mirror in this instant as it only feels you are calling me a bad person and I do not understand what I have done.

Shouldn't we all be thankfull for the scumbag, jealous, sad and poor second and third characters, like natsuo? They always help our favorite main couples to get even closer than before. They make The story exciting and let us have reason to hate somebody, instead one of The maincouple. They lead us to such exciting threads.
Actually we should love them. I Hope natsuo will get His Love :)
Nanigurl37 I Like your guts And your diplomatic way of writing your opinion. Though I like the main couple, i also kinda like the Bartender.

No offense taken I promise. I'm reading the story because I started it and I don't know but I feel weird about not finishing stories that I start even if the main ship isn't my favorite. A lot of work went into these stories so I respect the artist and those involved hard work, so I feel it necessary to see it through to end. Everyone has their own opinions and the things they like, so I don't see it necessary to insult their hard work because its not MY favorite.
Also I saw that the story was really popular in Japan, popular enough to get an anime, so I felt a bit weird not being a huge fan of the main couple and felt maybe so long as I saw this to completion my feeling's might change or I could figure out whats different to me versus everyone else.
But I do appreciate you asking my opinion, that is why i posted just for conversation and the chance to see different opinions.

I would like to thank you for that, I really appreciate your comment because my goal was never to antagonize those that ship the main couple.
And I have a friend who does love those antagonist characters as you said, they always bring a bit of excitement and suspense to the story as our beloved mangaka do love a painful cliffhanger, even though sometimes it can be rough on the heart to see it. However I would be lying if I didn't say that I completly agree that sometimes they are extremely necessary. As my little sister would say "plot pushers" lol.

Oh it's okay i get your point, not with this story but it also happens to me, sometimes i start reading a new manga or manhwa & even thought it's pretty popular the main couple don't fill me or don't fill me completely, like if there's something missing but i keep reading the story to see if i can change my opinion & yeah sometimes it's weird not finish the stories...

What you have done is ASSUME people don't like Kou SIMPLY because they like the main couple. You are thinking people are THAT SUPERFICIAL when YOU'RE the one who is assuming so. People have already stated that they hate him for his CHARACTER but your arrogance in thinking people hate him simply because they like the main couple is RIDICULOUS.
The fact that you didn't even THINK that there may be other reasons is also just as ridiculous.

I have to give you kudos for remaining calm and responding like a civil adult when a couple of these peeps were being a bit rude towards you.
(=・ω・=)

I know that he "probably" inst cheating, or believed that him and kotaro weren't exclusive, but damn Ayumi, the pain I just watched Kotaro go through broke my heart. Like I legit felt like someone hurt me. Even though he didn't mean to hurt kotaro, kotaro is so hurt its gonna take some time for ME after the misunderstand is cleared up.
I don't want Jinha to be hurt at all. And I would be super pissed if Siwon really did start to like whatshisface (he has so many names I can't keep up), but I would understand him. It's like Beauty and the Beast. Siwon has been kidnapped and held against his will, and slowly the beast is showing humanity and kindness (however false it is) and I have no idea how long this has been going on. It's no surprise the poor thing is confused and starting to doubt himself, his reality has been reconstructed. He is getting this false sense of comfort and thinking "there is a kind prince hidden in this beast". Meanwhile back at the ranch, dude is messing with his mind and preventing him from having any contact with the outside world, making it even worse. I can only imagine how mind fucked he really is. This is one version of beauty and the beast where the beast is just that, a beast.
Therefore any "emotions" developed over this time are false constructs developed from the stress of his situation. But I still feel so bad for Jinha blaming this on himself because of his fight with Siwon. There will still be some pain, but I know true love will prevail!