This comic is so weird... It started as fucked up as possible just to show all the hard kinky shit and now it's suddenly... What, wholesome? Cute? Did the author just decide "naaah I'm tired of this genre" and switched it our of nowhere??? Like. We are not gonna forget the 120 chapters of rape and emotional abuse just because the seme blushed sidjkslsjzkslsks
Honestly I keep reading just to see where it goes. Like when you see something horrible but you can't take your eyes away.
"okjae is so toxic" "okjae doesn't deserve areum" listen guys, okjae CLEARLY told areum "I wouldn't date someone like you, you are not my type. But I do think we are compatible, so if you can work on some aspect of yourself we can try."
At NO POINT areum was tricked or forced into this. He was the one who never listened to what okjae said and instead deluded himself into thinking she loves him so much. He was obtuse about it because he thought he is the best and OF COURSE okjae should love him.
I do think their relationship is rocky and rn I don't like how unilateral it is (areum is clearly head over heels for okjae, but she doesn't really care), but from this to saying that okjae is a bitch and areum "deserves so much better"? Please.
I really hope their relationship develops and gets better bc I like the dynamic of femine guy and dom woman. Their scenes would be fantastic if it wasn't for the dub-con (even if we know that areum does like it, it's still forced and that bothers me).
(I won't use the "if okjae's character was male you would all love it" bc it doesn't justify anything but. If okjae was a guy most of you would be head over heels.)
I agreee areum needs someone better
I agreee areum needs someone better but l dont hte her but stilll areum needs someone better
Completely agree. Areum just needs to understand that Okjae doesn't love him. They just sexually compatible. I want Areum to find someone who'll spoil him and for Okjae to find someone she'll enjoy being with.
Yesss
Ires youre right
I should have thought of it that way and lm waiting for okjae development (▰˘◡˘▰)
BRUHHH FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT, THESE COMMENTS BE PISSING ME OFFNSNFJDNF
YES definitely. I would've loved if okjae ended up having feelings for areum but I can't see that happening any soon... I want both areum and okjae to have AWESOME sex and a loving relationship so if they can't get that with each other... yeah, just find someone else
SAME like stfu all the people are just mad okaje knows what she wants and made it clear from day one
I was a really big fan of this bc yeong and nohae story was cute and sexy, their characters made a lot of sense and the silly misunderstandings were actually handled well... now what the hell is this? this is just the usual yaoi rape shit, I'm so disappointed :((
I really wanted to see the fox topping and I was SO excited for it but I guess we won't see it... since ppl were talking about them switching after this ;___;
noooooo
so we know that Sid wants to kill off Cain, but was it ever explained why? and also, wasn't Cain suspicious of Sid in some past chapters, like when he gave him the compass? I'm trying to get answers bc people here clearly remember and understood the plot better than me lol
The reason of Sid betraying Cain is revealed in the upcoming chapters.
I think Cain suspected Sid is because of his staff's report of a traitor and Cain's staff do have huge doubts of Sid
Wasn't it because he thought Cain had grown weaker? and demons naturally only want to follow the strong or to become the boss themselves? also often known for betrayal.
People all going like "omg it's just a slap they did so much worse!!" yes but it was NOT something they AGREED on, since Chanwoo was so startled by it. "He can say the safe word anytime" uhm, no? MD is MANIPULATING him, saying "if you wanna stop it's ok, BUT I'm not going to be your dom anymore" so Chanwoo CAN'T say no unless he wanna lose MD. And MD perfectly knows that Chanwoo values his relationship with him (their sexual one, at least) very highly and that he would do anything to keep being his sub. MD is manipulating Chanwoo by using their dom/sub relationship against him so yes, HE IS FORCING HIM!! If I had a close friend who I knew is in love with me (or cares about me deeply) and I was like "I think you're nice, but if you want to keep being my friend you have to pay me", wouldn't you think that I'm a bad person? That my poor friend is in a bind?
I was so excited for this side story bc I loved them as a couple but honestly, MD is on his way to become such a toxic character that I'm not enjoying the chapters anymore. He's probably trying to get Chanwoo to admit how much he actually cares about him, but going a totally wrong way. BDSM is supposed to be SAFE AND CONSENSUAL, not "we can stop anytime but then if you do you lose me forever". Please don't take this relationship as an example.
DEADASS!!!! i was so geeked for this side story but now i will just pretend like i aint see nothing bc this just makes my heart ache for chanwoo. this isnt bdsm anymore.
Agree. Honestly a respectable human being would’ve left that dude at the table after he openly admitted to luring in Chanwoo with ulterior motives, instead MD saw it as an opportunity to press Chanwoo after getting turned down. This whole chapter felt pretty gross, I understand humiliation might be a fetish for some but making Chanwoo do stuff with the guy that just used him/humiliated him outside of BDSM feels like forcing sexual assault especially with that “the better one is my sub” hanging over their head.
totally agree. i really liked their side story because i thought it was pretty well done, SSC stuff and it was fun to read. i do NOT like how MD is manipulating chanwoo here, because it's manipulation, plain and simple like you said. chanwoo has been in distress this whole chapter and obviously off his game ever since the reveal. if MD really cared about chanwoo he would be treating him so differently, and i'm not a huge fan of the turn minghwa's taken here. MD better shape up soon.
Agreed! Chanwoo isnt in the right state, he's obviously uncomfortable, but he will keep going for the sake of MD. Chanwoo might have rejected MD, but he's allowed to! MD has to stop being a petty ass bitch, pressuring him to do shit.
Exactly!!! I was totally thinking that this was a perfect opportunity for MD to show he's better than the guys Chanwoo dates by rejecting the ex sub and maybe saying stuff like "you don't deserve to date someone like Chanwoo" (I'm weak for the "knight in a shining armor" type lol), but this chapter was totally off for me. Didn't enjoy it one bit. I feel so sad for Chanwoo bc he's actually one of my fave characters and in this side story he's being treated like shit.
DUDE DEADASS ME TOODKGJLDLG I'M SO DISAPPOINTED LIKE WTFFFFFF
Thank you, beautifully said
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I've always thought there was more to Soo-won than we could see and while I understand his character better now, I won't be able to forgive him so easily and I hope Yona won't as well. Yona trusted him, was infatuated with him, and he killed her father and almost killed her, too (in the first chapter, Yona was chased by a shadow before king Il was killed, so I guess the plan was to kill her before the king). I guess most of his actions can be explained by the fact that he wanted the throne for the sake of the kingdom and he had a time-bind because of his illness, but that doesn't mean the way he obtained that was right. From his own words in the first chapters, Soo-won's father was killed by King Il when he was 8 yo so that's the moment he started to think about revenge (not plan, but at least think about it). He could've been cold to Yona: King Il was suspicious of him anyway, so that didn't help him in that sense. Of course, it could be that he got attached to her and Hak, but he definitely used her feelings for him; the moment she confessed, he spurred her on and fed her delusion more.
He definitely hesitate when it came to the point of killing Yona, but in the end he chose the kingdom over his friends and we still don't know exactly why was it so urgent that Soo-won had to take the kingdom in such a way. Was King Il's reign so awful?
I think the main thing is that Soo-won could've been a beloved king, but he chose to take the throne with betrayal and involving innocent people who trusted him like Yona and Hak. It probably boils down to how urgent it was to him to take the throne and to the belief that only him could do a good job as a king. Maybe if he trusted and advised Yona as she rose to power, there could've been an happy ending for him too.
this was a mess but to sum it up Soo-won had his reasons to do what he did but I'm not going to be like "oh poor baby he did nothing wrong ;__;" bc he DID some bad stuff and I hope Yona keeps that in mind.
I agree!! To be honest, when it came to actively hurt Yona and Hak he did the bare minimum not to arise suspicion. He was always very "lazy" in pursuing Yona, even if the people around him were urging him to get rid of the princess. Even now that Yona is in his castle, he's not doing much except keep her and the dragons separated. So yeah, he definitely isn't going to go crazy and kill everyone out of nowhere -.-"
I like Soo-won as a character. I think he was forced by the circumstances to do a lot of the bad stuff he did. I hope him and Yona will be able to talk (him and Hak too) and I think the princess will forgive him, but I also hope that Yona won't cave in easily just because she discovered he's sick.
Also I'm team Hak so I hope Yona won't get any resurfacing feelings for Soo-won xD
I'm just worried about how Yona, who is always trying to save anyone she meets, will react to knowing Soo-won's past. I like the fact that the author has repeated, during the story, that both Yona and Hak still think about Soo-won and that they were devastated by his betrayal. It's realistic considering how close they were. I'm just hoping Yona won't go fully "nurse mode" on him and ignore the dragons and Hak ahaha. But I'm very curious about how Hak will react!!
To be honest? Yes I'm pretty sure Soo-won will die ╥﹏╥ before I was still wondering what would happen to him, since he's the" villain" of the story, but with the story of the illness... I think he could sacrifice himself for Yona or something in the future. In that way he would redeem himself and then Yona could rise to the throne more "peacefully". What do you think about it?
Exactly what I was thinking! The illness will clearly be fundamental to how Soo-won's story ends and I think him sacrificing himself would be the perfect way to make Yona and Hak (him especially) truly forgive him. You have a really good point with the whole "he has someone in mind to replace him" thing and I'm wondering who could it be and what Soo-won's plan really is... I think we aren't seeing the whole picture yet and I'm eager to find out
Yeah I have a feeling that his death will be heartbreaking ╥﹏╥ especially since he'll probably die while the other characters still think him as the villain or are just starting to see his true colors ╥﹏╥ if Hak cries I will cry too for sure ahaha I'm kinda curious about how they will handle his death too. Also, I have the feeling that Soo-won might get closer to Zeno and that could be really sad, to see Zeno lose another person ╥﹏╥
Absolutely!! I'm having a lot of fun sharing ideas (⌒▽⌒) I feel like with Soo-won people either hate him ferociously or try to excuse everything without acknowledging his faults... It's a shame because he's such an interesting character and the author clearly put a lot of thought in creating him so it's sad when people look at him so superficially （￣へ￣）
I honestly think that there's more to Chanwoo's situation we aren't getting yet... it felt like he was scared about dating MD? And I'm not 100% sure the abuse is exactly how he told - that it's always from different boyfriends. Maybe there is one constant person in his life who is hurting him and dating MD would mean either getting this person mad or putting MD in a risky situation. I dunno, I feel like this would make more sense seeing Chanwoo behavior
AH I get what you mean. He does feel like something else is hindering him from dating md. But I think it may come from his belief that maybe his love lives don't work out (or that md might reveal his "abusive true colors" like the other partners he's had). It's like, MD is the only one who he doesn't want to risk that with. Wich is adorbale, but alos upsidedown beacuease he doesn't trust MD while feeling the most comfortable and safe with him as well.
I have to say, this a very valid take. It could be that Chanwoo fears MD will turn abusive as his other partners had and he doesn't want to lose the trust he has in him when it comes to their sexual relationship. In this case I'm curious about how MD could show Chanwoo he is worthy of trust outside the bedroom... if he really is.
I think we may be in for some fluff from MD. quite excited to see how MD earns his full trust in the bedroom and in romance <3
I'm so glad they gave us two chapters at once bc I would've DIED with that cliffhanger Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
I got bonus coins in Lezhin and decided to upload these 2 because no one had yet. But I won't be able to upload the next chapter ㅠㅇㅠ
I've seen a few comment being like "u r whining bc you can't handle dark characters!!!" and I'm like. No, that isn't it? People complain about Duna bc she's NEVER held accountable for all the shit she does.
She strangled Haesol. Raped Minho I don't know how many times. She excuses every action with "oh I was horny I wasn't thinking straight". And you know why nothing of this is acceptable? THIS IS A ROMANCE DRAMA!! It isn't a psychological thriller!! People defend Duna with "she's SUPPOSED to be bad!" ok, then why the summary literally says:
"Depending on your definition of romantic, Doona's sadistic ways might be the most romantic thing a guy could want!"
Do you see the problem? Duna is not held accountable and doesn't faces consequences because the author doesn't consider her a bad character - we see what "bad" characters get with Minho, who was a possessive asshole and is emotionally beaten to a pulp because of that. Writing a dark character is interesting and reading about one is very cool when they are well written, but a character is dark if people in the story actually acknowledge that. The only judgement Duna faces is Minho's hate - which turns into an excuse for her to abuse him over and over again. You do realize how bad she's treating him, right? She's offering a homeless person refuge in exchange of being able to force herself on him whenever she wants. Is she gonna chain him in her basement and break his legs next?
I saw another user say something like "it's like reading Joker's stories and then complain he's evil" no, it's like reading a story about Joker where he does his usual crimes but inexplicably every citizen in Gotham loves him to death and they lowkey call batman a loser bc he tries to stop him.
If the author wanted to write a dark twisted character, then Duna's actions would have weight and importance. The author just have a... torture kink of some kind, and wants to write a character doing the most absolutely repulsive shit ever but that is still, inexplicably, the most desirable woman on the fcking planet.
(Also: yeah the translator's notes can be distracting but you can also... not read their uploads if they disturb u so much lol. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.)
You wrote it so well. That's exactly the issue. Author doesn't acknowledge what Doona is doing as a crime. She is portrayed as strong, powerful, dominant woman who knows what she wants and takes it. She never faces any consequences. It's never acknowledged that what she is doing is literally rape and abuse. She is taking "rightfully" her revenge. She can take advantage of Minho or literally rape him because he "came to her." It's twisted, disturbing logic.
That's why I don't understand people comparing this story to KS. In KS author isn't glorifying Sangwoo's wrongdoings. What's more he faces brutal consequences.
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you showed me this and what i'm getting is that they're only portrayed as a "dark" character - if they receive consequences for their wrong doings? so if sangwoo was allowed to live a happy life then he wouldn't be a dark character? and, sorry to compare to harada's work again, but some of the toxic rapists in his stories get to live a happy life?? does that mean they're not terrible?? just because the people in the story can't see that they're terrible,, doesn't mean they they're not terrible.
It's clear author doesn't consider Doona's doings as horrible or super bad. She always tries to justify Doona's actions, Minho attacked her verbally, did something etc...so it was "well deserved" in the storie's logic. Even when author was talking about characters she only emphasized how Wookyung is criminal, Dooona didn't get the same view.
I KNEW it was going to be even more fucked up honestly what the hell... this is really a some sort of torture kink I can't believe it
The line between romanticization/excusing shitty behavior and writing actual dark character is this: either the characters recognize the character is bad, or the reader is made aware they are bad. In the first case, the dark character is pointed out as bad from the characters - by receiving consequences, by being called out.
If this doesn't happen, then the way the story is set by the author should make clear that the dark character is bad, and the interesting part is exploring the character.
The problem is: the author doesn't think Duna is doing anything bad. She doesn't set her up as a dark character, but as some kind of tragic hero who's taking her rightful revenge and who's now successful and triumphant. She's showing her as a kind of antihero, accomplishing her goals with "controversial" means.
And that isn't it. The problem is that Duna would be the villain of the worst kind but instead she's framed as simply a hero with a dark past. If the author had succeeded in their job writing a DARK character, there wouldn't be people DEFENDING her - you can't defend a dark character, bc the point of them is that they are in fact wrong and absolutely horrible, but that is sometimes interesting to see and explore.
Duna isn't dark, she's just shitty and the author forgives and defends her at every turn in the way the story is portrayed: Duna is desired by everyone, she's amazing, she's better than anyone, etc etc. She faces no consequences bc in the author's mind is clear that she did nothing bad that deserves punishment, and the readers agree. That's just bad writing lmao