Saw this on my front page, thought I was wrong, but I was unfortunately right… I don’t read this type of shit, but tell me why ugly is apparently;
One micro shade darker skin
No foundation
Freckles
Hair in a bun
Literally her face looks fine. The structure is perfectly normal- The only thing this is saying is;
You must be paper white, you must not have freckles, you must cover your entire face in makeup, and you must always have perfect styled hair.
Bruh.
It was also the brightly colored eyed shadow and mismatched lipstick. The messy hairstyles. And the over the top gaudy outfits.
Ngl, this sounds like trying to justify the blatant colorism / racism going on here bro.
Sorry you feel that way dude.
I don't think that's what they meant when they said that, I think they were just adding on to what you said
With all respect, it does seem like justification. I say how the “ugly” aspects are about factors no one should feel shamed about, then they bring up “Bad makeup, bad outfits, bad hair”. This seems more like they’re trying to suggest “oh it’s not just what you said, it’s actually all of these reasons”
But I believe that is blatant ignorance to the fact that the content, even if the outfits are “gaudy” or the makeup is “mismatched” or too colorful, includes a slightly darker skin shade as being ugly compared to the paper white tone she is when apparently “beautiful”. Trying to list the other details even while what is included is at the very least, colorism.
I don’t believe that they were trying to agree, I think they were making a point against my comment. If they weren’t, then poorly worded I suppose, but instead of clarifying, you have the reply they gave above.
But like I said, complete respect to you, hope I didn’t come off aggressive! I can always be wrong of course.
I understand where you're coming from, it does look like they're trying to downplay the racism/colorism, because you're talking about her featuresand how they find being tanned, having freckles and not wearing makeup and they are trying to shift it, but I feel like them bringing up the fact that it was also her makeup and her hair that they didn't like doesn't sound like justifying racism/colorism to me.
and this is just an assumption but I haven't read it and I think you haven't either, the person who replied has probably read it and is saying the reason why they didn't like her was because of her features/the way she looked and the way she dressed. In the manhwa they probably have a beauty standard and she didn't fit into those standards because of those reasons.
Beauty standards are just weird to me idk why people have to look a certain way to be considered pretty.
Im sorry if this didn't make sense, im sleep deprived and don't have my glasses on. I respect your opinion and sorry for replying late. I hope you have a nice day/night :)
Okay, so I understand M2 was originally meant to be an adult. Important thing is- he’s not.
Now maybe the author doesn’t know about all these moral things when it comes to fiction. I get it, we can’t expect everyone to be aware of the thousands of weird factors. What’s important is that when someone is informed “hey, so this might be a bit much”, that they take a step back and consider it.
What we don’t need is people trying to justify this. We don’t have the full progression of M2 from child to adult. M2 to most readers is just a child, and that puts him- for most normal people- into the “EXTREMELY OFF LIMITS” category. Much like how Fluffy hopefully will never be sexualised because he seems to have been an actual dog originally.
So- While its not the worst thing in the world, given M2 is at least being depicted as an adult, I think others need to respect the readers who feel uncomfortable given M2 was never an adult to us before hand. Suddenly seeing him as one and immediately in a sexual context is understandably going to feel gross.
funny how ppl are uncomfortable with the pedophilia and not that farmer raping a chicken hybrid
real
Same with the cow in like the first two chapters. But if you’re reading this far obviously that was not a deal breaker
Ok cvntmaxxing gtfo if weird why still here cvnt?
Somebody’s offended
truth bomb!! bash ur rotten head against a wall pls, your lovely goon material is also rape :3
didn’t rly even read it, i only saw that one panel of the chicken on dc and barfed
Suuuuuuuure you didn't read it lmao
believe what you want?? being mentally challenged is fine too
A dub/non-con kink is one thing, pedophillia is something entirely different. Holy shit
No one is saying rape should be normalised either. Be aware though- I used to heavily avoid anything depicting a lack of consent, but I realised after dating my bottom boyfriend that having a non-con kink is fine. This story itself is more dub than non too. That may be crazy and extreme to some- but it really isn’t ngl. I realised myself that having a hissy fit over it is really embarrassing. Normal adults have this kink. In the case of this work as well, it’s supposed to be light hearted, if that wasn’t obvious.
However, child sexualisation is actually disgusting. Don’t ever treat a stupid kink like it equates to that.
You gotta remember the real world exists, and internet morality isn’t the golden standard. If anything, it’s a bit elitist at times. Expecting everyone to follow your sense of right and wrong too..?
Overall, I think it should be extremely obvious that child sexualisation is a thousandfold worse.
What the fuck.
Yeah… because one is super fictional and impossible (cat girls/boys??? What does the chicken part matter?) also mentioning what I said above, dub-con is fine, get off your high horse-
while the other represents pedophilia in a way… uh yeah, people SHOULD be uncomfortable with it, even if not for the other stuff. That’s normal.
you’re using dub con in a gross generalization that’s not even remotely common irl, stop being delusional lmao. you’re so desensitized to the point that you justify literal sexual violence, i get that people enjoy that stuff but it’s unnecessary for you to label it as the norm and ignore everything else, you just look like a clown
Dub con in a gross generalization? I don’t know what you even mean by that.
Dubious consent is content which lacks a clear distinction of consent, meaning it can either be consensual or non-consensual. It is not made clear.
Non-consent is obvious in how it is more brutal and obviously rape. That can still be a kink and be fine.
Tell me how a fictional story depicting dub-con or non-con is sexual violence? The only reasons I would be de-sensitised is because unfortunately I am a victim myself.
But doesn’t it suck that I need to bring up that I am a victim of CSA to make my point matter here? No. Don’t try and tell ME that a light hearted story that doesn’t explicitly state consent is on the same level as my trauma and experience in sexual assault.
I and most people with common sense can tell this is fictional and not how you treat people or relationships in the real world.
Now, I can make this argument for child sexualization, because it differs.
When you have a kink for rape/non-con, you have the inherent arousal from the concept, but you can avoid acting on that desire, because ultimately you understand consent matters. This is how certain relationships work. Before hand- a consent to non-consent is stated, with of course, a safeword.
When you have an attraction to CHILDREN, and this is due to consumed media, while you may not ever act on this desire, it is inherently wrong and harmful to yourself to allow these desires, as it goes against the natural law of the human mind. This is an illness, not a kink. Attraction to children is always sick and should be treated.
Tell me, are people reading this comic going to go out and rape someone?
No.
Leave that up to conservative white men that try and act like model citizens, politicians, Loli/shotacons (a community which have commonly been outed for child grooming or worse. Who would have guessed…), neo-nazis that treat women like property, and so on.
Overall, I know I can’t change your mind. That’s fine though, I have said my piece. I know why my morals are how they are, because I have thoroughly explored them and communicated with others to know their unique experiences and reasons for enjoying this type of content, despite XYZ.
I will never doubt my own opinion because you think I am a clown, because I am confident that I have come to this point in my morals because I have grown, matured, and I do not see the world in black and white.
All I can say is, sorry morals differ, I guess?
I can only hope you will mature as well. Have a good day.
Fr they need help
i’m a literal victim too and i stand by what i said cuz people on the internet are desensitized unintentionally all the time, dub con is still considered rape literally because there is not clear distinction of the person reciprocating and giving consent to the others demands. also nothing lighthearted about fetish content lmfao
No no, he’s got a point. One is often a kink that can be consensual and ethical irl. Every scene can for a fact be replicated consensually irl dispite this fictional setting. The other is Child sexual content. Which in no way, shape, or form can be consensual.
There was no child sexual content tho? Like literally nowhere is a child shown in a sexual content. There is and adult version of a child character shown. Its not child porn
you’re using dubcon as a kink in a consensual setting, i wasn’t talking referring to that in the first place. i used the scenario in this story as my reference and the dubcon here is just rape
You’re right but the conversation shifted from aged up M2 to about how this character was only represented to readers as a child prior to the recent update, And how people would rightfully feel uncomfortable about such an abrupt age up and tone shift. The OG commenter tried to compare pedophilia and rape kink presented in the comments when they said that people have an issue with one but not other. My comment was merely to point out that one can be done safely and consensually. Which pedophilia cannot.
My point is that even if it weren’t represented as Dubcon it has way less negative consequences or potential it’ll be replicated in a criminal manner compared to potential pedophilia
considering how this is literally just porn and nonexistent plot, ppl are gonna eat ts up just cuz it has futa in it. no other reason
I came to this comic just cause I saw it on the front page. Didn’t know tiktok was posting about it since I don’t use the platform, but I have this to say…
REALLY (was) not into futanari type shit. I prefer men overall, but I wanted my men to either have a dick, or a pussy, not both.
This may have changed my mind… My world is widening… (haha)
But first off; the porn itself kinda shocked me at how much I enjoyed it. The artstyle is top tier, the overall direction feels fresh and very strong in identity for the comic itself.
Second; I got double whammied by the quality of the story itself. An extremely interesting premise with interesting and unique characters who all feel very distinct and with their own backgrounds going on. Of which, I am super curious to get to know what those backstories are. The author(s) really know how to blueball effectively…
Genuinely, give this one a shot. It may feel “freaky”, but honestly I don’t feel it is all that freaky as it is unique and unexpected. I actually think a lot of people are just against the idea of men having the opposite anatomy, but that is not the case for me. It’s just the “both” that threw me off. I never knew why I didn’t like it originally, I think it just felt too weird to me, but at least in this context it makes sense..? Nah, overall it just acclimated me to the idea, and I think I won’t mind future male futanari content in the future haha.
Surprisingly, one of my favorites so far. God damn.
I want to just add; Please let me wife up K bro… I will keep those eggs hatching, trust… That boy makes me feel WILD.
Sorry for my downbad-ness.
Started with "Really was not into.." ended with "let me wife up K" is crazy 180° turn.
Nah fr tho, I would luv to peg k too
Bro what can I say… doesn’t help that his design is very much my type lmao. But yeah, this shit got me fucked up
This is so good. Ik its probably gonna have a tragic ending, but FUCK YES this is such a good story so far, and the art???? Chefs kiss
Ngl, wish they did do a bit of fucking around w others too, as a poly mf in an open relationship its something I love to see (depicted well though. Its easy to fuck it up), but to each their own.
As a poly in an open relationship…..just be single and fuck whoever u want wtf why it gotta be complicated with two labels
Mind your own damn business bitch
Lmao? Because the person I am with is who I plan to live with and marry?
This person helped me in the darkest times of my life and stuck through it with me despite all the mental hardships I was having and that they had to help me through. We also work on big projects together as they are a digital art student and I am a software engineer major / student game developer. So our lives are very intertwined. I also just love them, a fuck ton.
My relationship is not some flimsy one, and you do not know anything about me, my partner or possible future ones.
I don’t give a shit about having the labels, that’s just how I live my life. We both don’t care for constraints on eachothers sex lives because we have things we both share in preferences but in other ways not so much. So we are comfortable with letting the other person explore their sexual interests with others too. Sex and love are two different things. Though on that note, we are capable of loving more than one person, making us poly. We are not seeking out another partner, but if one comes to be, then that is so.
Overall, yeah. Unnecessary and ignorant comment. All I was commenting on was the case of the fictional relationship in this story, and because I think a certain way, I find it funny how hard-set monogamy can be at times, but it was a lighthearted comment about a fictional couple…
Maybe you're not living that person's life. Ever thought about that?
Alright, this one is not the worst I’ve seen (so far) but I’m perplexed.
People are saying things like “they match eachothers freak”, but isn’t black hair dude way less of a freak?
Yes, he has some weird shit going on. First off, being a bully is always bad, so he’s not innocent. Second off, he seems to be getting aroused by this to an odd degree.
However, blondie is a fucking nonce. He’s sexually harassing and using blackmail to get at this dude. He’s essentially forcing him into highly traumatic experiences. Physical + Mental abuse and manipulation.
I wouldn’t even call him a freak. He’s straight up a molester
And I like most “toxic yaoi”, this isn’t a just a toxic relationship, this is literal coercion and criminal shit.
Idk, when I think “toxic relationships”, I think about two people who are bad for eachother emotionally, but are painfully driven to one another. Not rape / molestation/ generally nonconsensual shit. Maybe slight dub-con, but that’s the very limit.
Again, it’s not the worst I’ve seen by far, but it still has a lot of issues. I mean, shit, if they depicted this just as a fucked up story, no romanticisation n shit, I’d be fine with it, but yet again, it’s treated as cute at times as if its trying to pardon itself. Naur man
Correction
Not;
“I like most toxic yaoi-“
Was supposed to just be;
“Like most toxic yaoi”
say it louder for the people in the back like cause why is everyone in the comments talking crazy (⊙…⊙ )
I thought nonce meant pedophile
it could also mean a r@pist i think
Took a big break from being on manga go, so I'm only getting back to this now. anyways.
Nonce is usually used for referring to pedos, but also can mean general sexual assailants. Overall, its a word that insults those who do sexual crimes. Ofc that depends on who you ask as well, since it is slang, therefore subjective. In this case, I mean a sexual assailant, not a pedo.
Am I stupid? I didn’t see anything about Jin remembering Brandon other than him looking at the syringe and remembering Brandon drugging him. Unless there was a bot uploaded chapter that got removed or sum?
Either way, I seriously doubt Jin would miss Brandon in any fucking way, but I can’t say much given I must be missing something.
However I did look at raws- and like someone else said, I should have minded my fucking business not because of Brandon though. Good luck everyone.
I enjoy the story itself a lot. I don’t think in any world that this relationship should continue however, and I think this is a tragedy story that will end in a sick twisted way. Or at least, that’s the best course for it.
But then there are the people who chant “I love Toxic Yaoi” and are supporting Heeseo’s abuse of Taekhyung, and then BLAMING Taekhyung, the fucking victim, for what is happening to him.
Here’s the thing. Given my own trauma, my own experience with mental illness and such, I relate hugely to the thoughts Heeseo has. But by god I would never let myself do the things he has done, let alone to the person I love.
When you are someone who has suffered, you deserve equity, understanding, support, and so on. However, when you cause someone else to suffer, you are no better than what harmed you. You do not deserve forgiveness, even if you are lashing out from your pain. When you become a source of torment and trauma for another person, the number one concern will always be the victim.
Of course, the people who fetishise this toxicity tend to make me feel disillusioned with a work that I find profound, for lack of a better word. It makes me think, “wow, I am surrounded by slimely freaks that are just getting off on the idea of two mentally ill gay men hurting eachother for their own gratification. I hate it here”.
To be fair, I can understand liking toxic depictions of relationships for the deep emotionally ride it can give, and how it can affect you. But when you say you “enjoy toxic yaoi”, it gives me the impression that you enjoy the prospect of assault, abuse, and suffering. You enjoy what trauma “adds” to a relationship.
Fuck you.
Of course, to others who either hate this work or feel similar to me, where they enjoy the story, but do not support the relationship it depicts, I wish you luck in this place… fucking hell.
I kept seeing this on my front page, and already was annoyed with the cover, but that’s just my personal preference, I don’t like straight shit.
But then I realised it said “‘My Daughter”??? Bro. There are a fuck ton of other sites this degeneracy could be on… and why the front fucking page dude???
Then I realise it’s not about a daughter, but a niece?! Which isn’t any fucking better???
Literally cut the artists/authors hand off bro
The hand AND the ability to think