MaskedChild November 18, 2025 11:15 pm

Relationship, where every party gets what they actually want, but Kay got raped and baby trapped? The second relationship is actually healthy, because both parties know what the other wants and agreed to meet the terms of the other party. Like, I am actually happy that Schumans character wasn't sacrificed to make his side story, and it makes me feel like if that had actually been the main storyline and had been fleshed out, it could have been rather good.

Instead, we got a story where tons of corners were cut. How exactly did Zigril become the emperor? We don't actually know, because it happened off panel. What became of the town left behind? Idk.

Kays capabilities as a soldier/guard?, were completely undermined by how incredibly incapable he was of fighting. Note, that still may not have saved him from the rape, victims can go into shock during the rape, and no matter how capable a fighter they may have been, the shock could keep them frozen in place while they process. Also, the fact that during the delivery, Kay had not been crying til Zigril entered, is pretty fucking unrealistic.

Zigril is actually a fucking evil abuser. Like, there is nothing redeemable about him. He never cared about Kay, and is willing to manipulate Kay by threatening to kill multiple people, including, Kay, the baby, the ex, himself, and more. I am 100% convinced that Zigril can't love. Like literally. And because we get 0 backstory anywhere, we are left to speculate why he is the way he is, which makes him feel rather incomplete as a character.

The art was beautiful, until, at some point, Kay seemed to kinda randomly become more effeminate, I will reread to confirm this since it has been a while, but I think the art for him may have changed. Which, I hate when characters only get feminine after they are revealed as the bottom, or only during sex, because not every gay couple has one individual as an effeminate twink! Also, anatomy doesn't just randomly change during or after sex! If Kay had changed body shape after pregnancy, that would make sense, but that didn't happen either!

Basically, I don't recommend this series. The art is good, but the story is a mess, and consent only exists for Schuman and the random he is fucking, which is only the last 2 chapters of this whole series. Even the areas where there was some intrigue being built, fell apart with very little in the way of pay out or world building. Like, if they had only arrived there and gotten the flower, and then made there way back, I am convinced that Kay would still get raped with the intent to impregnate by Zigril, and that that would still be used to force Kay into a marriage, because none of the characters had any character building moments, outside of Kay being gaslit into believing that any of the rape he experienced, must have had some consent on his side, even though we the audience are shown that there was no consent given in the slightest.

0/10 do not recommend.

MaskedChild September 20, 2025 3:37 am

You gotta save these bitches when they in imminent danger, and then find the lawn chair to watch them flounder in bad relationships, while casually tossing a pool noodle at them when they surface. Cause if they don't take it, you can't force them to, much as it fucking sucks.

Also, from experience, trying to force your opinion without proper context of the situation, both makes you an ass, and makes the sibling or other person not trust you to open up to. Which then means that they will throw the pool noodle back at you, while purposefully inhaling water, out of spite and not wanting to be judged for their bad judgment.

Point is, be a good and supportive older sibling, and know when you need to ask hard questions, and when it is best to shut ya mouth. Also, in situations with domestic abuse, it is far more complicated, I have helped many a sibling, parent, and others with these kinda things. Also lot of it is empathizing with their struggles, and asking questions that encourage them to think and come to conclusions about their relationships on their own.

    Rae September 22, 2025 10:04 pm

    This is such excellent advice! I loved you're pool noodle and swimming analogy, acutely accurate. I have to point out that you don't have to be a big sibling to understand and utilize this info btw (for anyone reading) I'm the baby but I've been there, done that quite literally.

    MaskedChild September 23, 2025 3:20 pm
    This is such excellent advice! I loved you're pool noodle and swimming analogy, acutely accurate. I have to point out that you don't have to be a big sibling to understand and utilize this info btw (for anyone ... Rae

    Fun fact, I am the eldest, youngest and middle child of my different sibling clusters, lol. But it is advice I would give to anyone regardless of where they sit on the sibling totem pole.

MaskedChild September 19, 2025 1:40 pm

It's so very like him, as a cat, to really really want something to move, to then instinctively attack and grab it. Like, he got himself so excited by the hunt of, will touch hand, then dick, in that order, that he then couldn't control his reactions! Really cute.

Also, as a man who is 5'3" with a husband who is 6'2", the portrayal of the height difference has been incredibly accurate. I only come up to my man's shoulders, so if we side hug, I grab his waist, and he grabs my shoulders, cause that's where our arms just kinda naturally rest. So I love the fact that the artist is keeping so much size consistency. Especially on the staircase scene, where our short king was on a lower step than the tall ML.

MaskedChild September 12, 2025 9:07 pm

I love that the clothes on people look like how actual clothes look! Like, men tend to look more rectangular in clothes, so can women, and I think it's super important that more artist draw men's clothes like this.

Now if only we could get away from the dorito torso shapes!

Oh, if anyone knows of any titles that have hairy men or men with semi accurate proportions or men with colorful hair, please let me know! Also any cunt boy stories! I'm trans, and me and my husband enjoy those!

    Goddess Vlinder September 14, 2025 10:38 am

    I'm reading 'Unsleep' and the bottom actually has a man's body??? Like, wow, who knew it was possible...
    I don't know if you would consider it a cunt boy story but I think 'Eunsuk & Jung-gu' is pretty cunty in it's way.
    Now, if you are looking for a cunt cunt boy story, in the real definition of the word, try 'Missing Pepper Case', it is just stupid fun smut with a sex addict.
    Hope you like my recs :)

    MaskedChild September 15, 2025 4:21 am
    I'm reading 'Unsleep' and the bottom actually has a man's body??? Like, wow, who knew it was possible...I don't know if you would consider it a cunt boy story but I think 'Eunsuk & Jung-gu' is pretty cunty ... Goddess Vlinder

    I love the hate sex in 'Missing Pepper Case'. It's absolutely hilarious, and I really love that his body isn't, I am now more fem everywhere than before! Like, choice.

    Def gonna check out you recs, if I haven't already read them and just don't recognize the names! Thanks, fam!

    MaskedChild September 15, 2025 10:44 pm
    I'm reading 'Unsleep' and the bottom actually has a man's body??? Like, wow, who knew it was possible...I don't know if you would consider it a cunt boy story but I think 'Eunsuk & Jung-gu' is pretty cunty ... Goddess Vlinder

    So, you recommend me two of my favorites, and one series I haven't read (the art isn't my style, but I am gonna try reading it anyway, cause I could possibly love the plot).

    Now, I feel the need to return the good favor! Tell me, oh wise one with good taste, what would you like to receive in return?

    I have among my favorites, actual BDSM, smut, omegaverse, good isekai, will they won't they hellscapes, what the actual fuck am I reading, and some shonen ai gems. I have over 800 titles in my reading list, and nothing but time!

    Lol, also, here are some titles that I think you may like, with very short descriptions.

    "In the Doghouse" Hetero BDSM relationship, has a massive (knowledgeable) BDSM community who love the series. Body proportions for male lead are not proportional, his dick is fucking insane and his head is too small, but the facial expressions are fucking peak, and the way they handle situations is on point. Ongoing.

    "Dreaming of a Dokkaebi" Gay men with actually well done emotional responses. It's a will they won't they, with extremely well written complex feelings. The bodies are amazingly proportional, and the story has some twists. Ongoing.

    "The 11th School Trip" Def let this sit on the back burner, but it is already fucking more than worth it. The series is incredibly well written. I can't praise it enough on how well it captures the desperation of the main character, as he processes repeating a timeline over and over. The series is not focused at all on romance, but it will be shonen ai at some point, and according to those who have read the novel, it will be yaoi, much much later. 10 out of 10 so far.

    "The Summer Hikaru Died" Netflix released the anime, which I think has actually helped the timeline of the story, without making any changes that subtract anything from it so far. The animation does an incredible job of making you feel palpable discomfort. Highly recommend watching if you can, but you can also read it on this site. It is a "shonen ai" that is explicit but subtle. It is a exploration of grief with supernatural elements, and the first chapter will immediately hook you. The timeline is a bit difficult in some places (in the manga), but it is definitely worth the read.

    "Mr A's Farm" I lovingly refer to it as thot with plot. Hermaphrodidic animal men, whose existence is the plot. MC is Little A, Mr A's nephew, who got called to the farm after his uncle disappeared from it. Super fucking hot and a really intriguing plot. Also, Author Nim has hinted at there not being any exclusive Tops. Which, yessss, gimme those switches.

MaskedChild August 30, 2025 6:18 pm

Jins brother could bend me over a table and make mashed potatoes out of my organs, and I would still love every moment of it.

MaskedChild August 15, 2025 7:03 pm

To all of us that got got and are now shedding tears.

MaskedChild August 14, 2025 9:02 am

Bro definitely murdered his friends wife. Also, placing my bets that he either wanted Caden to himself, or he makes it a habit to become friends with espers to kill their guides. Or both.

    pinkdragon August 14, 2025 10:52 am

    Ohh interesting i really hope this is a theory not u spilling a spoiler from a novel(not sure if this has it ) but so many ppl dont know that there is a spoiler button and u CAN use if. But i Love Theories and if this is genuine omg now this is gonna be a crazy ride and im fully on board very curious i felt he might have done that shit on purpose too .

    MaskedChild August 15, 2025 6:53 pm

    I have never read the novel, so this isn't a spoiler, just my theory!

    pinkdragon August 16, 2025 6:32 am
    I have never read the novel, so this isn't a spoiler, just my theory! MaskedChild

    What..A ..great theory if it turns out like this boy is this one thick plot am here for it

    Herein_jing August 20, 2025 4:24 pm

    The latter is closer to the truth. He was appalled by Espers and Guides, believing they shouldn't exist in the world due to their abilities beyond nature.

MaskedChild July 31, 2025 11:15 am

You know you want to!

MaskedChild July 2, 2025 2:36 am

I reread this, and even took tons of notes just to try to make sure I was catching everything, and I learned some things.

First, I am still uncertain that the body there is Heos father. This is due to Heo being an untrustworthy narrator. That time skip between him walking outside with Lim and getting to his home indicates as much.

Second, Guwon isn't moral at all, but he hasn't been shown in any part of this, to lie. He states that he did not kill Heos father. He says he just didn't tell him everything. This is a really odd thing to say, if he had done so, and the evidence is right there. The only reason I could think of, that would make sense with Guwons character, is that the body isn't Heos father, or it is his body and he was a maggot.

Third, one question Heo asked point blank, was if Guwon killed his father. Guwon answered, and then Heo started to wonder why Guwon would know for certain that he hadn't. The answer actually lies in chapter 1. Guwon picks up a picture with a photo of Heo, his mother and his father. The glass over his father's face is shattered. Guwon would have all the knowledge to know if the person/thing he killed was anyone in the picture. Importantly, we never see Heos father's face in the picture, or the face of the dead body, so we can't verify if he actually was Heos father. We only have Heos memory, which is difficult, as he isn't a trustworthy narrator.

I don't have enough in the story for now, to figure out how Heo fits altogether. I thought before that Heo killed his father, then Guwon killed the maggot his father became. I still think it could be a possibility, but am not sure yet.

I now think there are several possibilities. Will start with the least likely.

Heo gets hit in the head, then treated by his father. His father leaves and never returns. Heo is discovered by a random person, who decides to give him a quick and painless death. Guwon kills that guy.

Heo gets hit in the head, then treated by his father, who goes out to get water. His father dies outside, then comes back home, possibly on auto pilot. Guwon kills him.

Another is the obvious possibility that Guwon just killed his dad, but believe it or not, that goes against Guwons character. Lims situation is how it would have played out. Guwon would try to figure out what skills he and his father have, before murdering anyone who wasn't good enough. So, why didn't he? Guwon has never been depicted killing anyone for no "reason". Every instance has been defensive, like Lim and maggots, or fucked logic based after info gathering.

A few more involve Heos memories. I wasn't joking when I said I took notes, so bare with me. Also, idk if any or this is particularly going to pan out, but a lot of it makes Heo suspicious to me. I still think there are indications of Heo being the more dangerous individual here.

Heo is shown over and over again to lack any memories with his father. There are several instances of him being completely alone in his home. He states that he enjoys watching violet kickboxing matches and films with main characters with super human strength defeating their enemies. He longed to be a strong solid person who could use their strength to protect others. He states that everyone around him always ended up sick and in the hospital. Everyone, except he and his father. His mother had bad legs and couldn't walk well. His father used to take her out for walks in the wheelchair.

Now, this is a stretch, but if I somehow end up right, that would make this one hell of a phycological horror.

Theory 1

I think it is possible that his father could have been domestically abusive to his wife. It would explain Heos longing to be one of the kickboxers or super humans. He could have lied about what happened to her, or the truth of it was too much. If Heos father made it so his mother couldn't walk anymore, it is possible Heo killed his father because of that. The guilt over doing so, caused him to erase the memory, and then later, to replace the reality of what was happening to fit new information he learned about Guwon, to shift the blame.

Theory 2 (not very likely)

Heo could have been the reason people around him kept ending up in the hospital. Not sure how, which is why this holds very little weight.

Theory 3 (still not likely)

Every memory Heo has is made up. Some things are true, he had a mother and a father, but neither one was alive anymore. Heo could have known about this and dealt with it for a long time, which would explain why we don't see any memories involving his mother or father until after he learns about Guwons lack of basic morality. His brain then stitches together the person with him as if they were his father. This would explain why Guwon thinks Heo would be happy seeing this dead body. Lim wouldn't even be able to tell Heo he was wrong, Lim never saw the picture, so the only one to challenge Heo is Guwon. Problem is, Guwon genuinely thinks Heo understands that the corpse he is holding isn't his father, and that Heo would be happy to learn as much. He wouldn't anticipate Heos brain identifying a person who clearly wasn't his father as his father.

Obviously, lots of speculation on so many fronts, which is why I need more info, which we won't get for a bit, I'm sure. I will say, from a moral perspective, Guwon is a bad person. I think he is more complex, and that while he might have chosen the place for his town, he may not have decided all the rules. I hope we get more LORE in the next chapter and in season 2. Thanks if you actually read this monstrosity of an essay. I took almost 8 pages worth of notes on chapter 0-11, then had to stop writing cause my hand hurt.

    Dazai July 2, 2025 3:05 am

    this was very useful and a great take: thank you for sharing!!!

    ajdarender July 2, 2025 3:51 am

    thats some insane dedication love you bro

    reece July 2, 2025 4:32 am

    i agree, i think Guwon is a bad person, but i don’t think Heo is who we think he is

    yorozuya July 2, 2025 4:49 am

    !! i genuinely love how restrained this story is written. makes us all go crazy but forces us to actually use our brains lmfao. to add onto the supposed time skip between jinwoo's dad leaving for water and returning, jinwoo's position changing from leaning against the wall to face down on the floor was odd, but what immediately stood out to me was jinwoo's father's lack of reaction. he cares about him to the extent of leaving their home to get water, but the sight of his bloody son face down on the floor didn't strike any panic in him? there's def an event that occurred in the middle that we have yet to understand. this is my personal theory of what happened:

    1. a robber breaks into jinwoo's house and hits him in the head. jinwoo's dad fights the robbers off and leaves to get water.
    2. jinwoo's dad gets into an altercation with the hounds (assumption--i think jinwoo's dad stole the water bottle from them and they retaliated) and chases him back to his house, where guwon allegedly kills him.
    3. jinwoo mixes up the memories of his dad reappearing with the robbers that had previously attacked him due to his head injury and trauma, leading us into the prologue.
    4. jinwoo later states that he wanted to confront his missing memories, regardless of how painful they are, because they're still HIS memories. guwon's "gift" to him was helping jinwoo remember what happened that day, which is why he never directly told him (and probably why he allowed jinwoo to return home and followed him). guwon didn't care about WHAT the memory was, just that jinwoo remembered it, even if that memory was his father's death.

    i also believe guwon when he says he didn't kill jinwoo's father, but i'm still doubtful that he's completely innocent as you say. it seems that he takes everything as face value and doesn't understand nuance, which might explain why he didn't see anything wrong with presenting jinwoo's (supposedly) dead father in his face.

    questions, questions!! i can't wait for the season finale

    [email protected] July 2, 2025 4:51 am

    Thanks a lot for your dedication! I totally agree with the theory number 1.
    Something felt so wrong when Heo started to « remember » his dad

    missdisillusioned July 2, 2025 5:14 am

    Everybody except OP needs to get out of the kitchen, let them keep cooking

    ☆〜(ゝ。∂) July 2, 2025 5:24 am

    You sound like you took ap lit in hs

    catnipbaby July 2, 2025 5:24 am

    theory 2 does hold more weight than you think, i dont believe heo’s sudden sleep walking/hurting where he has guwon in a chokehold suddenly manifested when guwon found him. either he had his family and friends be assaulted by him in his sleep state because he does watch alot of kickboxing videos or other external factors like maybe something his dad or mum did. either way its a cool theory

    SuckerForUkes July 2, 2025 8:31 am

    absolute peak writing

MaskedChild June 24, 2025 6:28 am

This is my theory. I think Heo killed his father. In one of the previous chapters, Heo has head pains and a flashback when Guwon beats a zombie to death. In the flashback, we see arms beating either another person or a zombie. Importantly, the arms we see, are not Guwons arms, they are white.

I think Heo killed his father, and I suspect that the person hitting someone in his flashback was his father, and that his father could have been beating Heo, possibly over food or lack of resources. I think his father may have tried to kill him, and Heo killed him is self defense. Due to the traumatic nature of this event and the injury he sustained, his brain got rid of it. The memories being triggered by similar actions carried out by Guwon, is due to Heos guilty subconscious possibly linking him and Guwon as the same, even if the instances weren't.

This is further supported by the flashback from the last chapters showing Heos shillouet possibly strangling something.

I believe think it is feasible that Guwon didn't kill Heos father, and that it is possible that Guwon may have seen Heo kill his father. It would also explain some of Guwons favoritism to Heo as well, especially when we have the context of him treating the hounds well, due to their fighting prowess.

I do also think the reason Heo may have killed his father could be more fucked up than self defense, I'm actually certain it is, but the above theory is me giving Heo the benefit of the doubt.

    m0ngr3lz June 24, 2025 7:52 am

    i support this theory

    MaskedChild June 24, 2025 5:27 pm

    As thanks for all the support on my theory, here's a little more of my thoughts, and an extra point I figured out just now.

    I actually think that Guwon could have put down Heos father, after he turned into a zombie. Which would explain the split head. So, Heos father's cause of death, strangulation by Heo, cause of second death, blunt force truma by Guwon.

    Honestly, I have suspected Heo of doing something or going through something since his first flashback, during Guwons zombie beatdown. He immediately identified the person in the memory as Guwon by eluding to the fact that he had seen the same scene before. I did a double take and was like, wait, those aren't Guwons arms though? Since then, I have given amnesia baby a sideways stare, wondering what he actually did, and why he unsettled me more than Guwon at times.

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