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He is the second richest in S. City, which is where the plot takes place, but He Tong is a multi-national corporate owner and has tonnes of money that no one can really touch him. If ML wanted to keep his wife and son safe, he'd have to lock them in an underground buncker and never let them out. O.o thats the impression I got from rereading. But also, I agree, why didn't he hire someone to at least take care of them??? xD

May I join you ╮(￣▽￣)╭

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I mean the author has built into the very foundation of the lore that a dom can do whatever they want to a sub at any given time. Why bother with law enforcement when a dom can command a sub to do virtually anything under the sun. By definition the sub can never actually consent to anything whether it’s sex or let’s go the extra mile to saying no to murdering someone on behalf of the dom’s command. The whole society would be in complete anarchy if this was as straight forward as the author presents it.

Exactly the author needs to read 50 shades to get a better understanding of BDSM.

oh god no, 50 shades is the worst way to go to find out more about bdsm

No honey, 50 shades is a terrible terrible example. But I recognize your sentiments.

Eibon i definitely understand what you mean. I am part of the Femdom community and in fact i'm a dom and this manga is throwing me off in so many error context. A BDSM yaoi webcomics that I respect are Blood Bank that include after care and a proper dynamic of sub/dom and the side stories of MD and Oh Chanwoo in Bj Alex that both have a dynamic with a contract and establish safe words and more. I see many comments making references to 50 shades and it is a very very bad example. It's not only a toxic relationship but also it says that the majority of the people in the bdsm community were abused. BDSM is sub divided by a lot Doms can be mommy/daddy, Soft doms, hardcore, dominatrix or even findom and the subs can be divided with littles, brats, slaves, pets or just subs. (just so others that read this dont freak out im a soft dom XD im too nice says my partner who is a switch and not all of it is whips and chains its more.)

Blood bank is pretty decent but BJ Alex’s attempt at BDSM is truly abysmal and abusive.

In Bj Alex is what we call hardcore BDSM it's not everyone's favorite but i have a few friends that enjoy it. I did research in my community and it isn't many who enjoy hardcore not cause of the pain is cause of misconception. When does Hardcore becomes abusive? Well when the dom or even the sub ignore safe word, when sub and dom do not communicate about likes and limits, Dom and sub do not establish trust, and what many fail and see as silly is the Aftercare. Aftercare doesn't matter what kind of dom are you or sub it is extremely important. Aftercare comes in many ways for example an after care MD presented in Bj was treating the wounds that is a good quality in a hardcore dom, other aftercare from dom to sub watching netflix, food, emotional support, asking them about their day and stuff like that. Now aftercare goes both ways dominating can taaaake a lot of mind because you have to be attentive on the limits of your partner, headspace and more and what Oh Chanwoo failed it was his after care towards MD.

So the point of Chanwoo having experienced an abusive relationship prior and rejects MD’s feelings only for MD to forcibly use their BDSM play to inflict punishment on Chanwoo who likely partakes in BDSM because of masochist tendencies associated with his abusive relationships is perfectly fine? Or that MD exploits this to then emotionally manipulate Chanwoo with the threat of replacing him with another sub, gaslighting Chanwoo’s fears of this, and then once more using their sexual play as a opportunity to create an ultimatum of accepting MD’s romantic feelings. The power imbalance of MD exploiting Chanwoo’s insecurities and trauma is disgusting. If that’s apparently some aspect of BDSM that your saying is acceptable I personally want nothing to do with it.

Not what I meant. I'm comparing their sexual activities to the current manga. As for what you said it is abusive I tell my friends that if your dom doesn't talk about emotional things or worries about you isn't a good one. The emotional half of Oh Chanwoo and MD for me was actually a stir I as a dom do prefer to take in consideration my partners feels and mind. I thought the gaslighting could've been avoided with proper communication instead of dom to sub it would've been better human to human but neither parties did such. Now as for the aspect of the BDSM as i previously said the community is extremely divided the hardcore doms do their things i'm a soft dom and i'm on my side of the community where role reversal is about what i like and restraints. Hardcore doms have their sides and rules I dont partake in their activities cause it's not for me. I'm from GFD Gentle Femdom in other words. I've had my share experience talking with other people to learn and for some its just a contract of sexual pleasure for others is intimacy but both needs and establishment of trust. In my side of the community gaslighting isn't allowed we've yeeted people cause of it and abuse we try to prevent it but some people apparently enjoy it, but ask them not to take part in our community it's a big no and a horrid example cause both dom and subs are humans and they have needs. For example a sub that uses bdsm to escape responsibilities is a red light "you are an adult out side the bedroom we don't control you out of it and you need to own up to your mistakes." or a dom that uses their sub as a punching bag we recommend them t visit a professional before engaging any relationship. TBH i stick to GFD.

Thank you for your explanation. My issue BJ Alex and a plot like this is even if you’ve explained there are more hardcore of BDSM play that involve elements of abuse being sexualized, that is a teaching moment, with your background and patience can convey to an interested party. The author doesn’t do that there and instead suggests the abuse is excused by the BDSM, rather than abuse can be incorporated into the BDSM and more importantly if both parties are enjoying the play. If one is clearly inconvenienced, refuses, or is harmed that is not BDSM that is just strictly abuse or in the case here rape and emotional suffering

No problem! I do my best to clear the misconception of BDSM not only cause I’m part of it, but cause my field is sexology and there are so many misconceptions with other communities other than the BDSM. Thank you though for actually being understanding and you are one of the few with clear mind of the community.

Ok, so I'm only here to say that this whole conversation made my day *-*
I love how inteligen, openminded and cnowladged you and blueninja89 are in this subject.
When I was reading BJ Alex and chapters with MD and Chanwoo were on the go, people in the comment section simply glorified their relationship saying that MD is perfect and Chanwoo deserves all this shit because he dered to reject such a splendid man.
It literally made my blood boil how ignorant and hypocrite people can be.
If it had happened to them in real life, if they were in Chanwoo's place, their perception of the situation would change dramatically.
If you like toxic people and relationships in fiction then don't be surprised when your taste affect your real life.
I know someone who thinks that MD and Chanwoo have more caring, loving and healthy relationship than Alex and DG have and for me it's so outrageous I don't even know how she could come
to such a conclusion.
Sorry if my english is bad it's not my mother language and one more time thank you for a good read (๑•ㅂ•)و✧