toastyBooksAndTea March 15, 2024 4:00 am

Do y’all want Yoshiki to use ‘Hikaru’ as a replacement for Hikaru and then over time he realizes he loves the entity for what it is?????? Because that’s the only way that would go?? It’s such a tried storyline that has so much unnecessary angst. Sorry guys, Hikaru our ml has been dead since ch1 and Yoshiki began keeping ‘Hikaru’ around because of his grief and love over Hikaru, he’d rather have the spectre of Hikaru than not have him around, isn’t that tragically beautiful and poetic? The story has never changed even after the confirmation that there won’t be any romance between ‘Hikaru’ and Yoshiki, Yoshiki will forever be haunted by his love and longing for Hikaru, that’s the eerie poetic thing you guys think you’re missing because the “BL tag was removed” except it’s not missing and it’s still there, it’s still hauntingly beautiful and tragic

    junochi March 15, 2024 4:28 am

    me personally I see 'hikaru' as a puppy attached to yoshiki and I thought it was cute
    but I was definitely wondering if it was gonna go down the romance route
    thank u

    Viira March 15, 2024 4:29 am

    Yeah I think people are not understanding that nothing is being retconned. It’s just not a romance manga. A better tag would be LGBT and then romance if there was any as two separate tags. I think people don’t understand that bl isn’t only used as a romance + gay men tag in Japanese manga spheres. LGBT manga doesn’t really know where to be categorized because it doesn’t fit neatly into any bl or gl label because it’s not always romance. Like “my lesbian experience with loneliness”, so we call it gl because it’s a queer story? It’s not romance and def not focused on love but instead the authors mental health and sexuality struggles. GL/BL labels we never designed for queer people or stories. They were designed to be consumed as a genre by straight Japanese people so none of this was taken into consideration. Doesn’t help that some sites haven’t adapted to have an lgbt tag and they they use the fake term “shounen ai” which is NOT what BL is called in Japan but instead westerners doing a very literal translation of “BL”

toastyBooksAndTea March 15, 2024 3:44 am

AHHHHHHH MAKE HIM TAKE THAT PIECE BACK, HE’S GONNA EAT YOUUUUUU

    Miriko March 17, 2024 6:19 am

    I think the text says Tear not eat

toastyBooksAndTea March 14, 2024 12:03 am

This mf- Seojin wants exactly that from Yoonhee, he wants that unambiguous big declarative statement of love but he won’t give an inch, he won’t show his own cards until he gets a satisfying answer from Yoonhee. He knows Yoonhee is extremely weird and him basically asking all these questions does mean he likes him but Seojin is too scared of what that means and what he would have to do and confronting his own feelings that he would act dumb unless it’s an explicit declaration of love. He’s a cowardddd.

    candi March 21, 2024 3:37 pm

    both of em got issues. summer loves spicy and flawed characters with borderline twisted morals lol

toastyBooksAndTea March 13, 2024 11:45 pm

I CRAVE REVENGE

toastyBooksAndTea March 12, 2024 10:04 pm

You can’t force someone to be in relationship with you, you can’t force someone to talk to you, and you can’t force someone to give you closure. You have to move on. Because it could get abusive.

    esoul March 13, 2024 12:21 am

    people disliking but it’s true

    Chanslaptop March 13, 2024 1:07 am

    Why r people disliking this, this is so real. Like don’t waste your time on people that don’t care about you

toastyBooksAndTea March 11, 2024 12:22 am

Geezus why the fuck are you guys so hung up on the BL part of the story, it never even truly revolved around the traditional BL relationship. “Hikaru” isn’t a human being, he doesn’t have an understanding about the concepts of human love, romantic love, or sexual attraction, a relationship between “Hikaru” and Yoshiki wouldn’t exactly be BL. And BL is very much incredibly popular, the author doesn’t have to take out BL from the story to make more money or some shit, it’s very clear Yoshiki loved Hikaru in a romantic way from the first chapter so the author gains nothing from suddenly trying to “to turn it in to a straight manga.” Hikaru is definitely at least bi. What is happening now is just what the story and relationship between what “Hikaru” and Yoshiki calls for, and it’s also about how Yoshiki is grieving Hikaru and his love for him. His love and longing is so deep and all consuming that he would rather be with spectre of Hikaru than live without him completely, that’s pretty fucking gay to me, and let’s not forget that Hikaru would rather be body snatched than leave Yoshiki alone.

Idk why you guys are so pressed, it ain’t BL if they don’t do the nasty or something????????? Chill out, the story is very well written and the mystery is taking center stage right now. I for one am glad Yoshiki isn’t suddenly in love with “Hikaru” just because he looks like Hikaru, and we don’t have to go through the angst many other bls put us through where the story is that Yoshiki first sexually and romantically uses “Hikaru” to replace Hikaru and then suddenly realizes he truly loves “Hikaru” and blah blah blah, I hate that shit, that would just make Hikaru’s presence trivial and forgotten and I would hate that because it would mean Hikaru was used as a plot device to create angst and sexual tension between “ Hikaru” and Yoshiki. In this story Hikaru isn’t forgotten and he is still as important even if he is no longer alive.

    Ciki•Syndrome March 11, 2024 12:50 am

    I think ppl aren't pressed because the main characters are not gonna do the nasty lol. It's just the general erasure of the bl tag, which might have something to do about the manga industry's tendency to look down on bl works (and even shoujo romance) even if they're well-written. It's rather a criticism towards the industry rather than the story the way I see it.

    Oor March 11, 2024 1:37 am
    I think ppl aren't pressed because the main characters are not gonna do the nasty lol. It's just the general erasure of the bl tag, which might have something to do about the manga industry's tendency to look ... Ciki•Syndrome

    That's what I think too since they aren't "doing it" = no longer bl people rather see chapter after chapter of characters going at it instead of a well story/plot I dint know why when they have a lot of those why can they let it go

    toastyBooksAndTea March 11, 2024 1:45 am
    I think ppl aren't pressed because the main characters are not gonna do the nasty lol. It's just the general erasure of the bl tag, which might have something to do about the manga industry's tendency to look ... Ciki•Syndrome

    Most of the comments are talking about queer baiting and they are upset that there isn’t going to be any romance between “Hikaru” and Yoshiki, they feel cheated, I do agree that the industry does look down on shoujo and BL and that’s just horrible because there really are some very well written ones out there, including this one, I’d categorized this as shounen-ai or just BL though even if they remove the tag because it certainly is based on such relationships.

    Oor March 11, 2024 1:57 am
    I think ppl aren't pressed because the main characters are not gonna do the nasty lol. It's just the general erasure of the bl tag, which might have something to do about the manga industry's tendency to look ... Ciki•Syndrome

    I'm sorry I read wrong I thought u said are pressed lol

    Ciki•Syndrome March 11, 2024 2:15 am
    Most of the comments are talking about queer baiting and they are upset that there isn’t going to be any romance between “Hikaru” and Yoshiki, they feel cheated, I do agree that the industry does look dow... toastyBooksAndTea

    Oh, wait to clarify when you say romance are you referring to sex? To be honest, when the comments mentioned romance between the two mcs, I interpreted it as the mcs having feelings for each other and how their relationship grows, not the idea of them having sex. Because isn't this manga categorised as shounen ai instead of yaoi so I think most readers get the idea that no explicit scenes will happen here.

    Ciki•Syndrome March 11, 2024 2:20 am
    I'm sorry I read wrong I thought u said are pressed lol Oor

    dw about it. i do agree tho that some readers are too hung up on wanting to read smutty scenes instead of appreciating other elements of yaoi stories.

    toastyBooksAndTea March 11, 2024 2:30 am
    Oh, wait to clarify when you say romance are you referring to sex? To be honest, when the comments mentioned romance between the two mcs, I interpreted it as the mcs having feelings for each other and how their... Ciki•Syndrome

    Nope I don’t mean sex either, I was just exasperated on how people thought it was queer baiting even though Yoshiki clearly romantically loved Hikaru and I was like if this isn’t BL then what isssss????

    Ciki•Syndrome March 11, 2024 2:59 am
    Nope I don’t mean sex either, I was just exasperated on how people thought it was queer baiting even though Yoshiki clearly romantically loved Hikaru and I was like if this isn’t BL then what isssss???? toastyBooksAndTea

    Oh I see, I see. Sorry about that, my brain sometimes finds it hard to understand what I'm reading.

    I get your point. I can only make assumptions based on what I've observed. So my take on this is maybe the author probably intended this to be really bl but since it is gradually gaining more traction outside the bl space, maybe they were advised to drop the bl tag to pander to the general growing audience.

    If this is the case, I'd be really sad. It's already bad enough that so many great bl mangas don't get the attention they deserve for simply having queer themes.

    toastyBooksAndTea March 11, 2024 4:10 am
    Oh I see, I see. Sorry about that, my brain sometimes finds it hard to understand what I'm reading. I get your point. I can only make assumptions based on what I've observed. So my take on this is maybe the aut... Ciki•Syndrome

    No worries, my post was pretty long and maybe convoluted so I totally understand. It would be sad if that were the case but if Yoshiki actually pursued “Hikaru” romantically I would have probably dropped it because that would have been too much angst for me. That would trivialize what Yoshiki felt for Hikaru and it would treat “Hikaru” as replacement for Hikaru for Yoshino to get over his grief until he comes to love “Hikaru” as “Hikaru” is and I’ve seen that story so many times, I’m tired of it. Yoshiki would become a mega douche in that case.

toastyBooksAndTea March 8, 2024 5:39 pm

What was the point of this??????? WHY THE FUCK WAS CH 5 SO GRAPHIC????????????????? IT DIDNT NEED TO BE????? WHAT WAS THE POINT??????????? YES DEHUMANIZE CHILD RAPISTS AND MURDERERS! YES DEHUMANIZE PEDOS! I DONT CARE I DONT WANT TO SYMPATHIZE WITH A CHILD MURDERER AND RAPIST! What about that kid??? Where was the grace shown for the kid? Where was the pain, the fear, of his, where was the grief of his family??? What happened to him as a kid was horrific but what he did was also horrific and no it doesn’t mean that all he needs is unconditional understanding and love and he will become better, ALSO ONLY 15 YEARS FOR WHAT WAS DONE TO THAT POOR CHILD???? IT SHOULD BE LIFE NO IT SHOULD BE EXECUTION, TO THE PARENTS AND THIS FAKE PRIEST, SORRY AUTHOR YOUR WRITING EXERCISE TO MAKE ME FEEL SYMPATHY FOR THE MOST SKDIFIDJSJW PERSON DIDNT WORK

    Jay March 12, 2024 7:49 pm

    honestly I feel like it wasnt graphic enough, it needs to be more emphasised how terrible everything that happened was

    toastyBooksAndTea March 12, 2024 9:48 pm
    honestly I feel like it wasnt graphic enough, it needs to be more emphasised how terrible everything that happened was Jay

    This is also somehow true?????? It wasn’t insidious enough at all, where was the dread and the vomit inducing fear

    toastyBooksAndTea March 12, 2024 9:53 pm
    This is also somehow true?????? It wasn’t insidious enough at all, where was the dread and the vomit inducing fear toastyBooksAndTea

    Actually no, I stand by that it didn’t need to be, just the implication is horrifying enough, I almost barred when I read it, I had to pause and take a minute, it was horrifying in and of itself

    toastyBooksAndTea March 12, 2024 9:54 pm
    Actually no, I stand by that it didn’t need to be, just the implication is horrifying enough, I almost barred when I read it, I had to pause and take a minute, it was horrifying in and of itself toastyBooksAndTea

    *barfed

    Manami April 8, 2024 5:38 pm

    Why was it so graphic? Because the author wanted it to be. Sometimes graphic scenes are used for shock value or to drive home the severity and extent of an incident rather than when it is only implied and it is left for interpretation.

    Acorn April 15, 2024 4:33 pm

    Honestly, I think the way it is is fine. It's disgusting and creepy and horrifying and really hits those points home.

    Acorn April 15, 2024 4:34 pm

    Tho I do think there should have been more emphasis on the crime he committed. Or that the crime had been a bit less severe. It feels like they kinda brush over it despite how horrible it was for the kid and the kid's family.

toastyBooksAndTea March 8, 2024 6:55 am

Ok once again, I’m on ch 33 where it’s revealed he let that dog die and doesn’t have any empathy or remorse about that, I just don’t understand how it gets to a point where In seob actually falls in love with him??? I just don’t see that happening at this point in the story?? And this is the first time I’ve read a yaoi and it’s ch 33 and no sex, it’s truly building the stories and characters, it’s pretty cool, a shame one of the mcs is aspd with almost no ability to feel empathy, just how and why is the mc cursed to be with him??? Also not like fake aspd that most manhwas have where the ml just needs that one guy/girl and then boom they now have a full range of emotions they never felt before, they now understand things they never thought they could, nope, this dude has a pretty bad case of aspd and the author has taken care and time to write and portray that, that’s cool, that representation is pretty cool indeed, but like dude’s srsly freaking dangerous and I worry for our mc

toastyBooksAndTea March 8, 2024 6:35 am

What the fuck, he’s diagnosed with aspd with clear signs of lacking empathy, AND HE LET THAT DOG DIE WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK

toastyBooksAndTea March 6, 2024 8:08 pm

There is not any biological incest right????? Please tell me there isn’t any????

    peepaw March 6, 2024 9:32 pm

    according to many, in the novel there is (the dad is the ml). But many say that the artist has no intention of letting that happen and is making it so that there is no ml.

    toastyBooksAndTea March 7, 2024 5:27 am
    according to many, in the novel there is (the dad is the ml). But many say that the artist has no intention of letting that happen and is making it so that there is no ml. peepaw

    Whaaaaaat???? She isn’t an adoptive daughter??? She is 100% related to everyone in that house including the dad????

    peepaw March 7, 2024 3:30 pm
    Whaaaaaat???? She isn’t an adoptive daughter??? She is 100% related to everyone in that house including the dad???? toastyBooksAndTea

    yeah…

    erdoganingotununkili March 15, 2024 12:41 am
    according to many, in the novel there is (the dad is the ml). But many say that the artist has no intention of letting that happen and is making it so that there is no ml. peepaw

    I think I see it wrong did you say dad is the ml?

    peepaw March 15, 2024 3:57 pm
    I think I see it wrong did you say dad is the ml? erdoganingotununkili

    nah you saw right….

    Karma868 March 18, 2024 1:15 am
    nah you saw right…. peepaw

    let me just take away some morals from this conversation, i think i prefer the dad over the main lead

    peepaw March 18, 2024 7:43 am
    let me just take away some morals from this conversation, i think i prefer the dad over the main lead Karma868

    In the nivel the dad is the male lead! But the direction the manwha is takeing is to have no male lead!

    Karma868 March 19, 2024 2:49 am
    In the nivel the dad is the male lead! But the direction the manwha is takeing is to have no male lead! peepaw

    i really want that, no male lead. that white haired prick is getting on my nerves.

    Pomme March 19, 2024 1:19 pm
    In the nivel the dad is the male lead! But the direction the manwha is takeing is to have no male lead! peepaw

    How the fuck is he the male lead … like whaaaaat ?
    She isn’t his real daughter ?
    She ends up with him for real ?

    Lambo March 21, 2024 6:22 am

    I'm only at chapter 20, and i can see that the 2 half brothers are feeeeling way more than sibling love... With all those implied blushing and monologues..

    peepaw March 21, 2024 7:14 am
    I'm only at chapter 20, and i can see that the 2 half brothers are feeeeling way more than sibling love... With all those implied blushing and monologues.. Lambo

    yeah it’s disgusting

    peepaw March 21, 2024 7:14 am
    How the fuck is he the male lead … like whaaaaat ? She isn’t his real daughter ? She ends up with him for real ? Pomme

    Yes! But in the novel lol. I have no idea why the author of the book did that

    Nadia March 31, 2024 5:01 pm
    according to many, in the novel there is (the dad is the ml). But many say that the artist has no intention of letting that happen and is making it so that there is no ml. peepaw

    Huh the dad huh the what

    maiyaka March 31, 2024 7:31 pm
    Huh the dad huh the what Nadia

    In the original web novel, her father is her one of her love interest and the male lead. Basically her father and her get together

    Pomme March 31, 2024 11:00 pm
    In the original web novel, her father is her one of her love interest and the male lead. Basically her father and her get together maiyaka

    For fuck’s sake …
    Are they truly related like biologically ?
    But even if they aren’t its so wrong on so many aspects.

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