i stuck with this manga because I wanted to know how Ren became an orphan. what is his backstory? how did he wind up abused and covered in cigarette burns and could barely speak?
i'm coming to realize, with the way this drags on, i may never know
I just reread....the same chapter....
I'm all empty inside now
tsk tsk, doesn't Sora know better than to talk to talking wood cracks?
thanks for the update!
I love every chapter
interesting! I was kind of thrown off by the use of the term 'chick' (why is modern slang being used in a period piece? it just throws off the illusion), but I am so far invested.
damn Suu out there playing his cards. scheming with the consort like the badass bitch he is. that's right, don't let anyone use you. ur doing great, sweetie
I know this is going to sound very bizarre and like my imagination is out of control (cuz it didn't happen) but I kept expecting the uke to like, get so angry an f*king snap, and the seme would turn into the uke....
this is what happens after to a person after reading 'warehouse'
forgive me
oh no, not the heart 'thumbs'! not the 'omg WHAT was that feeling?'s!
lol a little cliche at the end of the 2nd chapter but I REALLY enjoyed the buildup.
this one has a really cool vibe.
It's pretty easy to follow, though the author is dumping a lot os backstory all at once. just came as a surprise.
I actually really enjoy this art style, and these characters, and this manhwa.
If you aren't into it, it would be better to just move along instead of leaving nasty comments. no one is forcing you to read it.
I'm not trying to attack you specifically, but I think some people get way too defensive about comments that don't just lavish praise. People are allowed to comment on aspects they don't like. It's actually useful, too - others who, for example, don't particularly get into hyper-feminine ukes like this one can read the comments, and be forewarned. They might decide to "just move along." Or other comments might say that the sex scenes are hot, so in spite of something they don't love, they might decide to give it a go - but at least they know going in that they might not like the character style. Hundreds of comments just going "OMG it's so cyuuuuute cinnamon roll squee" aren't very useful. Constructive/informative criticism is healthy!
Exactly. People who do not enjoy hyper-sensitive uses SHOULD move along, as you suggested. but they haven't been. I've yet to see any 'constructive criticism' so far pertaining to the art style, and I've only seen horribly offensive comments. For example, one person commented that the art style appeared so effeminate, why did the author even 'bother to make them male'. I found it horribly offensive that they wanted to misgender these characters based on their appearance. I saw another comment refer to them as 'lesbians'.
I love constructive criticism. I welcome it (and no, I don't mind cinnamon roll comments either).
But the audience, so far, has failed at that.
*ukes (not uses)
I don't entirely agree that they're "misgendering" him, because I feel that the creator has deliberately made him ambiguous, gender-wise. I agree that the comments you found offensive don't sound constructive - some people might find them informative, though.
To be more constructive about it, WHY has the creator chosen to draw him this way? It serves no purpose for the plot so far - he could just as easily have looked a different way, without it impacting the story at all. So, it was a choice purely based on preferred style. And, although sometimes this is because of the censoring rules I'm guessing, his "feminine" body type is often highlighted and accentuated by the creator's artistic choices.
Now, this stereotypical dimorphic style (tiny, 'feminine' uke; huge, 'masculine' seme) is a common part of why some yaoi is almost offensively heteronormative. So I can understand why some people are sick of it. This work is a part of a large body of works in the same genre that involves a set of conventions, so it can be judged as a part of that genre and those conventions, not just as an individual work.
To be honest, a lot of positive comments have nothing constructive about them, so I think it's unfair to expect all negative comments to be constructive. Having said that, constructive comments are usually more interesting. (Comedy excepted.) Personally, I'd always rather NOT offend anyone. It's a bit difficult to avoid though, because some people really do seem to get offended by anything even slightly critical, constructive or otherwise (I'm not saying you're one of them though!).
Oh god that was really long, sorry
As far as the feminine styling, it is, as you said, creator's choice to be ambiguous. and there really is nothing wrong with that. my issue is people with WITH issue with that. I could quote more particularly ignorant comments, but I believe I made my point in previous comments so I will not be going over them again. agree to disagree when it comes to constructive comments, negative versus positive. I believe negative comments DO need to be more constructive than positive comments, as no one is stepping on any toes with with 'look, he cute and smol' comments. Constructive explanation is important particularly if you are leaving a comment that could be offensive, something that is not necessary with positive comments. (In my personal opinion, it just creates a bad community if people are dropping ignorant words, which is why I occasionally tend to point it out, but that is just my opinion).
as far as this style seemingly heteronormative, small vs. large, however anyone wants to put it, I can see your point there. I don't know much/ have thought about the trope. personally, it doesn't bother me, though I can see how some might be sick of the stereotype. to be honest, I don't see that changing anytime soon, but I hope more reads are available to those who would prefer a more equal playing field with the uke/seme.
(no problems with leaving long comments lol, it's cool :)
it's kind of weird that the two characters have, like, the exact same temperament. they both smile as they talk to one another, like they are the same person. I wish the author would have made them more different.