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I'm even shipping them now..

I thought so too. and to be honest when he told him about the phermones and all that with it might be the reason he liked Hajin I was like oh yeah he likes him.

Yeah.. Like for a split second he was trying to make dokyung falling any deeper

when those 2 were talking and my man confessed his love for hajin to taehyun somewhere in there taehyun blushed like you saw his side profile is eyeys were gone and the shadow was red and so was his ears to i think taehyun likes the mc

Yeah he blushed because he knew that he trusted him enough to tell him how he really felt.

oooh that makes sense

everyone knows what is right and wrong. he beat up the uke until there were wounds all over his body. that is the characteristic of an abuser. a different person wont "change him" or make him "a better man". thats how women end up with abusive men, thinking they can change them.

-^^^ i worry for people like OP who have this mindset it’s literally the difference of life and death in a real life abusive relationship being this purposely naive and blissfully ignorant. Authors that portray sympathetic abusers and the readers who rationalize and emphasize with them are so damaging to the psyche of actual abused victims and potential victims who will have been told to make excuses for their abuser because various outlets of our society actually does in fact side with humanizing abusers over victims day in and day out.

He’s clearly a sociopath he needs psychiatric help so those people who cross him won’t end up in the hospital or worst in the cemetery.

there really is no such thing as knowing what is right and wrong, especially in these types of topics. And a different person can change them, that is if that person can wiggle their way into his heart. And people think differently and hence love is different for them, change is possible for him, but he just hasn't met the person to make him think so. Some people can't always hold in their built up frustration and they eventually let it out, gotta understand both sides. I doubt you have met every single person on this earth and listened to their love experience or life story, i was just speaking with an open mind.

merp, if you guys want to talk about a persons mental health, then this ain't the place, i am here speaking from the side that no one wants to try and understand, that's all. Well when you think about mental health is apart of everything BUT i don't want to start talking about this stuff as i know that i am still learning about this world, so please go easy on the comments.

you sound extremely young. love does NOT change people. Abusers do NOT change. you say theres no such thing as knowing right from wrong? you wouldnt mind some guy trying to force his feelings on you and then beating you up because you arent interested? would you sympathize with him as you are healing in the hospital? its because of people that think like you that people end up dead from abusers killing them.

Okay you’re going to far with that. It’s a story, a fictional story.
Don’t get so heated about it.

YEA IM FLIPPING 2, ok like idk what happened to you but i just said i don't know shit about mental health and love, i was just saying people can change and you should also put yourself in both sides shoes, and that i don't want this to become a serious topic, so chill.

you can’t have it light and sweet hun, it is what it is.

oof seriously it's a story yet people are trying to turn it into reality, geez i just wanted to understand each character, but to not make it a serious comment because people'll get all serious, like i came to chill and read but, i guess it is what it is

I want to stop this, so tell me what you want to hear, I am not good at socialising with others and i suck at reading the mood, so tell me what to do so we can go back to reading our mangas.

It’s alright people have their own opinions bout it. And you’re right it’s just a story, it’s good to understand the characters and their motives and such. Don’t worry bout it.

Wow you're like my flipping savior, ty

People get over the top, but I guess that’s fun too debating lol

It's a serious topic. Hearing someone excuse an abusive person makes me worried. Im an aunt, so the aunt in me came out. Lol didn't mean to make you uncomfortable. I would never want someone to not value themselves and be with someone, hoping their love would "save them. "

Well of course but it’s a story it can’t be taken to a literal sense. There’s of course a teachable moment and see that “yeah that is bad” just like in a movie or book of the sort

Don’t take it to heart, we’re here to chill. I commented the way I did because I studied psychology and that’s how I analyze him and how he could be helped,; not of course to antagonize you. The story seems to be fluffy but it is heavy with abuse , bullying and violence so expect that readers will be sensitive. It may be a work of fiction but there are people who are going through the same thing.

It's fictional but depicts a situation that happens everyday and everywhere. We need to be careful how we see those kind of behaviours It starts like this then you just excuse criminals. If your bestfriend or sibling found themselves in an abusive relationship I sure hope you wouldnt tell them that their partners is going through some shit and that you're just trying to understand what nobody wants to try. Not everything makes sense with a mentally ill person. And all seriousness aside, if Jihyun wasn't hot, literally nobody would root for him.

books and movies tend to inspire debates and become feel very strongly. nothing wrong with it. books speak to us in a spiritual level, and can trigger emotions based on personal experiences. i usually dont comment unless i dont mind getting a lot of varying opinions thrown back at me.

Okay but it’s a different reaction to a fictional sense and reality. Of course if it’s the real world it’ll be a whole different thing, we don’t condone that kind of behavior.
But let’s step back and see the creative process in this work, it’s made to entertain. Not everyone will like it and that’s okay it’s not made to please everyone. Those behaviors are what the author wanted to portray for their characters.
If it was my best friend of course I wouldn’t want them to be an abusive relationship but it’s not my best friend it’s character in a manga in a fictional world. If it’s sensitive for some people that go thru that in real life then I suggest reading something more on the grounds of what they are comfortable with.
I just think it’s unfair to put such a heavy toll on characters behavior to the reality.
But each to their own of course.

The issue isn’t the medium. The issue is that this author along with a predominant number of them within the BL genre make light of abuse in how they portray it. With almost all of them having the abuser be sympathetic to their readers. This is deliberate. Afterall it’s a man being abused not a woman after all. So why acknowledge that despite the change in gender the heteronormative application of psychically strong and emotionally weak is still seen in these counterparts. Unfortunately this is not limited to BL but is seen in various other fictional and non fictional forms of storytelling across the board. I don’t blame the characters I blame the author and the editor and the whole team of people who make money off this sort of narrative but don’t care to show the reality of what violence or toxic behavior looks like other than using it for pornographic entertainment in the most banal way. I blame a society that knows sex sells. I blame a world that forgives and encourages toxic behavior rather than acknowledge and reflect how it’s failed us and continues to. It’s applying abuse as a form of sexiness and ultimately a desirable characteristic with the excuse of a passionate and emotional lover be humanized by their violence. It’s applying “boys will be boys” and “men are trash” as the premeditated excuse for men to behave without care and consideration because society already has forgiven them of their violence. It doesn’t matter that this is a fictional story it’s exhausting that this narrative continues to be the standard everywhere you turn and look. Some may enjoy it that’s their right. But stop making excuses for how this continues to be the standard for even sadly enough work written by women for women. The irony of it is more than demoralizing and just truly sad to even bother further discussion.

i have no issues with reading books with dark subjects. i DO have an issue with someone posting a comment like this on a site where there are children that can be influenced.

"And a different person can change them, that is if that person can wiggle their way into his heart. And people think differently and hence love is different for them, change is possible for him, but he just hasn't met the person to make him think so. "

im sorry, but if i see that, i am going to speak up even if it pisses people off. books are meant to create a discussion. whether it is fictional or not. abuse is still abuse, and i cant ignore someone posting such an ignorant comment.

well there is something known as an act of forgiveness, but i'm not saying like to literally try and save the black haired dude. I meant to say that he "COULD" change if he just met the right person, i don't know why ya'll are hating on this, i just wanted to have the black haired guy have his own little happiness, ya'll are treating him like he wasn't meant to exist, like he ain't human, the guy has feelings, so give him another chance, let the guy experience happiness.

im just saying that people dont change that easily. if you know someone is an abuser, rapist, or pedophile and want to risk your safety in the hopes that he will change, then thats your choice. whether or not he deserves to be happy is irrelevent. when you are using your life to make someone else miserable, beat them up, and beat up anyone that is interested in the person you "love." then you're happiness doesnt really matter anymore. he is still showing signs of being controlling. he still has anger issues and hasnt bothered getting help for it.

im just saying in real life its not worth the risk being with an abuser. i watch crime watch daily, and abusers are usually the ones that end up killing their spouses for a perceived offense. look at the poor guy in this manga that ended up in a hospital with a broken look. the uke was already in the hospital once. he is capable of extreme violence.

you can forgive someone, without letting them hurt you. my sister tried for years to forgive and hope that her drug dealing, abusive husband would change. he would even claim that he found God. Until the day she found out that he tried feeling up his own daughter. I dont believe people that enjoy hurting the ones they love can change. But thats just me...

First of all i don't know why kids would be on here..... and i was speaking with a heart in mind. Yes, abuse is still abuse BUT is he not aloud to change for the better? Is he not aloud to try and ask for forgiveness? Is he seriously not aloud to be a character who can be happy because everyone says "abuser will be abusers and are trash and will never change". I just wanted to try and understand, is it sooo bad that i'm like this?, is it sooo bad that i can forgive such a person? Am i wrong, because everyone says so? Seriously, is it too much to be a person like me?

like i said. if someone wants to risk their life like that then go out. sure we can hope an abuser can change. personally i wouldnt take the risk to be with them. your own safety is more important than wanting to forgive someone.

i cant tell you what to feel, i just dont think its worth the risk.

p.s. yes there are kids on this site. i used to read yaoi at a very young age, so i would know.

i dont want to keep going in circles so lets leave this here. you are free to forgive and understand whoever you wish. as an adult, i know that people like this do not change.

I understand what you're saying, but it was an "If" question, I was just holding onto that last bit of hope that he could change if he met someone who is capable of changing him, but it seems I should never hope for the better in these kind of people, I lost my little bit of hope left for these people and now I feel like sh*t, i thought these were the only good qualities i had as a person but it seems not, who would have thought that these comments could easily take away the things i want to hope and believe in.

not my intention to make you feel like crap. im just saying, you can hope for people to change. i just want you to be careful. just look up stories of abused wives. they believed their love could change their husbands, some even bring children to their lives, and the children are abused too.

i dont want you to change yourself, its great to want to see the best in people. but i care, and wouldnt want someone to put themselves in danger. it is very common for women to believe they can change someone.

https://psiloveyou.xyz/why-i-will-never-judge-another-abuse-victim-a01a1bb7623a

so please dont feel bad, thats not my intention.